Am I just Seeing What I wanna See?

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Am I just Seeing What I wanna See?

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Alright, well since late March, I noticed this Paramedic greeting me in the hallways. In all honestly, we're so busy on the floor, I really don't notice the people that pick up our patients. Anyway, I notice this guy knew my name, and I didn't know his name until I looked him up on facebook. He's been really flirtatious, but I notice he kind of pulls back. I didn't even realize how cute he is until a friend of mine pointed it out. The problem is, he's 11 years younger, and he probably thinks I'm his age. I've developed a huge crush on this guy, but I feel like he's now become the oblivious one, and I'm probably one of the pretty young girls he flirts with on a daily basis.

He was born December 16 1995 in Laredo. No time of birth. He has a rather large Stillenium in Sag with his sun teetering on either very late Scorpio or early Sag. The only positive I can see is that he's either an earlier Sag or his Sun falls at 29 degrees Scorpio which is conjunct my natal Sun/Moon=Venus complex. His Pluto is the only exact direct contact we have but by signs only approach, his Sag stillenium would indicate we have more synastry than meets the eye. We've been pretty low census, so I haven't seen him since like last month. Big coincidence, and it may be nothing is that my fortunate Demi SLR in June features an Asc/DSC partile conj his close natal Venus/Neptune conjunction, which is also transiting Sun.

This may just be a coincidence, but I was wondering, just based on the signs method used here, is there anything there....or is he just a flirt who likes pretty girls?
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FWIW, with your angular “outstanding incident” Venus-Uranus partile 90 in mundo in your next SSR, and since you have a crush on him, I would try to arrange some kind of meeting with him to discuss possibilities close to your next birthday. Keep us informed if you get to meet him.
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Well, if he's a Scorpio and straight, then he's definitely young man who likes pretty girls :) . Other things support this, e.g., Virgo Moons much enjoy flirty engagement (but can seem a little shy). If he's a Scorpio Sun and that Moon-Mars square is as close as it was at noon, he's a sexual hurricane.

Yes, one of the very strongest things is that he has Pluto on your Descendant almost to the minute. This also means it's within a degree of square your Mercury. Pluto near your Descendant marks an entire age bracket but, by itself, is still important as far as it goes. The usual form is that Pluto makes a major impact on you, which, if an actual relationship develops (i.e., he's around long enough for anything to happen) can feel life-altering. It may be a brief blip in events or a long-term catalyst (even if he comes and goes).

And most of these relationships are flitting. Most of them come and go, though a few exceptional ones do not. In fact, sometimes their most important effects on us are through dramatic endings. This, by itself, is neither a reason to pursue them or not to pursue them - it's just what happens. (All relationships eventually end. These tend to have profound positive or negative impact while it's happening.) Consider Karen Carpenter's effect on her brother Richard (brilliantly beautiful impact until the dramatic separation by her death) or Amber Heard's effect on Johnny Depp (that went a different way before an equally dramatic ending), or Freud and Jung (they each had Pluto on the other's angles: what they did together was awesome and then their alienation dramatic), Monica Lewinski's impact on Bill Clinton, Nicole's effect on OJ, etc. Some of these were spectacularly positive and definitely worth it; some were terrible. What they shared was powerful effect, intense interaction, and a dramatic ending.

You're going to have this with everyone born within a year or two either side. You might think about whether you want to dig out and pursue that age range, avoid them entirely, or let them come here and there as the universe brings them to you.

The unique characteristic of his Pluto square your Mercury is exploring things that are difficult to discuss and making the unthinkable likely. Most pairs with this interchange never connect - they remain silent around each other or have sparse communication across a distance. However, those who DO connect tend to explore strange, outlier ideas together, especially topics that are difficult to discuss with others. I think "difficult to discuss" is the central theme of the interchange (and the rest depends on whether and how long they connect). His ideas could shake your thinking, unlock unconventional thoughts, intensify your curiosity about something. In the longest of these relationships there tends to be some form of shared passion (sexual or other) - from other aspects - that bind them together and, when that shared passion fades, they go their separate ways. Consider the powerful intellectual friendship of Harper Lee and Truman Capote (which, then, late in life separated), or Apple co-founders Steves Jobs and Wozniak, the creative passion (that then went its own way) of John Lennon and Paul McCartney for example.

These are the more eye-catching things. It sounds powerful and interesting.

Your Moons are both Spoke. That gives a sense of sympatico, an easier natural sense of connecting to a kindred soul. (Same sign or opposite sign gives this more strongly, but square signs gives a lot of it!)

Other things that stand out is that his Mars conjoins your Moon within about 4°. This isn't super close, but it's close enough to definitely feel, and it's the energy you're feeling and fantasizing about. We've talked a lot about this aspect of roused instincts, surging desire, turbulent passions, and often irritation and festering discord - it has a highly distinctive profile. In your case, I would expect a watered down version of the following:
Enflamed emotions. Sexual attraction is fierce and usually satisfying all around. Moon's surging desire often leads, but Mars needs only a nudge... Passions (which may include tempers) run hot: By teasing, taunting, or even infuriating provocation, each seeks to rouse response from the other, which need not be a nice response [but can definitely be a nice response]; therefore, irritation, argument, and other forms of festering discord may result, especially when the concupiscent needs are unsated. Conflict usually appears slowly, though: Moon-Mars may long pass for deepest love, especially in the young...
Notice that this suggests you are best placed to make the first move, but it need be only a little nudge probably.

Back to the intellect: Your Jupiter conjoins his Mercury pretty closely. This is quite positive - admiring, respecting, promoting, endorsing, and encouraging. In particular, you will be inclined to admire his mind and/or words, to hear what he has to say in the best possible light. Respect and admiration usually flows both ways.
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So, Jim. What about his Sag Stillenium? Does that affect my moon and Jupter Venus aspect?
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Venus_Daily wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 11:14 am So, Jim. What about his Sag Stillenium? Does that affect my moon and Jupter Venus aspect?
Not per se. Maybe sorta. There are things you might feel more in rapport with. If his Sun is in Sag, that would make a dramatic difference.
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