Christy's SSR 2023

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Christy's SSR 2023

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I was looking at my ex-wife's SSR. We're together some these days.

Christy
Aug 30, 1983
6:35am
Port Arthur, TX

SSR 2023 Location: Houston, TX

She's got transiting Uranus and Jupiter very strongly angular, which I read coarsely as beneficial change.

Radically, she responds with strongly angular Moon and Venus, which I'm also reading a generally positive.

But in terms of transits, it becomes more complex because of the seeming countercurrent of the following among other transits:

tMoon conj tSaturn, 0°40'


Can I get any help with how that might all fit together?
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Re: Christy's SSR 2023

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Lance wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 8:38 am She's got transiting Uranus and Jupiter very strongly angular, which I read coarsely as beneficial change.

Radically, she responds with strongly angular Moon and Venus, which I'm also reading a generally positive.

But in terms of transits, it becomes more complex because of the seeming countercurrent of the following among other transits:

tMoon conj tSaturn, 0°40'
Happy birthday to Christy.

Usually, this kind of mix is as simple as it looks: There is mostly some good stuff, and some distinctive bad stuff in its midst. I usually don't see these blending so much (especially in a Solar that has to describe a range of circumstances for a year). Instead, the seemingly mismatched circumstances each manifests.

I had a Solar a few years back - in the heart of Covid - in which I was pretty concerned about Moon aspecting five or six benefics tightly configured. I managed to get a return with Jupiter 0' from an angle and the year was good, health crises and irritants were mild and limited to the periods Moon progressed to each of the other planets (or the slower ones transited the SSR Moon), etc.

Christy natally has really strong Jupiter-Uranus, so she should take well to it in her SSR. In fact, the natal chart with foreground Sun, Moon, Venus, Jupiter, and Uranus sounds a lot like how you described the SSR. Give me a few minutes to run the chart and see how I'd prioritize it (I wanted to answer in principle first, then get on to the particulars).
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Re: Christy's SSR 2023

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Along the way to getting that chart... I should be doing this for more charts so people can give more feedback on the usefulness of the approach... here is my ranking of how strong each of the ten fundamental planetary needs sets are for her. (This isn't a list of how strong each planet is - not exactly - but specifically of how strong the driving need behind each planet is.)

100 - Sun Venus Jupiter
99 - Uranus
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93 - Moon
90 - Pluto
48 - Neptune
43 - Mercury
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18 - Mars
0 - Saturn


Sun needs - to be someone specific, to integrate all the parts and individuate as a distinctive something or other - are just overwhelmingly strong with Leo-Aries luminaries and rising Sun. The scale doesn't even capture all of that, since dual solar luminaries alone would get a 100% score. Similarly, Venus gets 100% from the exact angularity, which doesn't even take into consideration the close Moon-Venus mundane square. Same with Jupiter's exact angularity (Nadir) and the close Sun-Jupiter mundane square. These shining bright, positive natal factors just explode atop the rest of the chart.

Saturn needs at 0% strength don't sound like who you have described in the past - perhaps I was confusing the similar-but-totally-different Aries Moon traits? The 0% Saturn in contrast to the 100% Jupiter (and 18% Mars against 100% Venus) is even more extreme a statement.
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Re: Christy's SSR 2023

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You're right: The transiting and natal benefics are extremely strong and that Moon-Saturn conjunction is close - much closer mundanely (0°38') than ecliptically, and foreground (but barely so). Here is the breakdown of the main points:

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Pl Longitude   Lat   Speed    RA    Decl    Azi     Alt     PVL    Ang G
                           Transiting Planets                           
Ur 28Ar 0'19"  0S19 - 0' 5"  50°46' 18N14 288°42' + 4° 7' 184°20'  99% W 
Ju 20Ar28'25"  1S19 + 0'58"  43°28' 15N14 289°45' - 3°25' 176°23'  96% D 
Mo  7Aq10'27"  4S 8 +15°17' 335°45' 14S32 329°22' -72°29'  99° 8'  79% I 
Sa  8Aq30'38"  1S47 - 4'32" 336° 9' 11S51 331°54' -69°55'  99°46'  76% I 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
                            Radical Planets                             
Mo 29Ar54'53"  2S20 +13° 1'  53°13' 16N45 286°14' + 5°24' 185°38' 100% W 
Ve  3Le42'48"  8S28 -34'11" 147°59'  3N57 176°56' +64° 1' 271°30'  99% M 
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    Class 1 Aspects     
tMo co tSa  0°38' 99% M 
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tMo sq rJu  0°55' 98%   
tUr co rMo  1°17' 97% M 
tUr sq rVe  2°51' 84% M 
The clear, dominant presence is transiting Jupiter-Uranus (like Jupiter-Uranus at her birth) and natal Moon-Venus. Transiting partile Moon-Saturn conjunction is just shy of 10° from IC and I wouldn't weigh much into their angularity, but the aspect is close and important. All the stuff you cited.

But Moon is also square natal Jupiter (partile), so even those are mixed. The other important foreground aspects are Uranus to her natal Moon-Venus.

Bottom line (your probable concern) is: She'll be OK. Better than OK. Stuff to deal with, but probably will remember this as an especially good year. The worst part will be in the few seeks centered about a month and a half after her birthday when Moon progresses exactly to the Saturn, and then any other part of the year when Saturn may transit back across them (I haven't calculated any of these). - Almost exactly at the same time as the Moon-Saturn progression, though, she has progressed Moon to natal Jupiter (exact 25' or 12 days earlier, and heavily overlapping). Moon then progresses to square natal Uranus 3°30' in, or just over three months past her birthday. Perhaps the big progression of the year is when it opposes natal Sun 4°51' in, or (moving 15°17' for the year) 3.8 months after her birthday: She has a very significant "getting attention from a valued source" and possible life-altering relationship shift in the last weeks of 2023.

Symbolism of Moon conjunct Saturn near IC suggests that the places in her life this may be felt are parent-themed issues and anything involving home, immediate family, and security. These can't go too badly, though, with the angular benefics. She seemed absorbed in "Life is good - let's keep it that way!" Such issues as being a mom and having new romance and pleasurable adventures are most likely in the forefront with the planet set, I think.
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Re: Christy's SSR 2023

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I have a way (experimental) of mathematically scaling various return chart features for a summary. I can't say its solid, but most of the time it thumbnails my SLRs quite well. For SSRs I haven't decided whether Moon aspects need to be figured into it. Using this chart as an experiment, the system goes like this:

Partile Angularities (6 pt) r Moon
Class 1 Angularities (5 pt): r Venus
Class 2 Angularities (3 pt): t Uranus, t Jupiter
Class 3 Angularities (1 pt): t Moon, t Saturn

Moon = 7 (no other planet with more than 5, which is Venus)
Benefic = 10, Malefic = 1
Spotlight = 7
Dignity = 3, Indignity = 1, Change = 3


If we weight in SSR Moon aspects, we add:

Partile (6 pt) t Saturn, r Jupiter
Class 1 (5 pt):
Class 2 (3 pt): r Sun, t Uranus, r Moon, r Venus, r Uranus
Class 3 (1 pt):

This brings the scores to:

Moon = 10 (second place with 9: Jupiter & Uranus)
Benefic = 22, Malefic = 7
Spotlight = 13
Dignity = 12, Indignity = 7
Change = 9
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Re: Christy's SSR 2023

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Thank you for the time you’ve put into this. I’m just never really sure how to interpret charts with mixed messages, so to speak.
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