2024 Prez Election Forecast

[SteveS]

It’s still very early and I don’t follow politics that close except for possible wagering purposes, but I will forecast a high % Biden will lose the Nov 5 2024 Prez election, if he is still running for the Prez on Nov 5 2024. I base this forecast on all of the pominen Saturn Symbolism I see in his key charts leading-up to the Nov 5 2024 election. First and foremost:

1: On Election Day his Solar Arc Saturn is partile 90 his Natal ASC, partile cnj his Natal Zenith.
2: On Election Day there is a transiting partile Moon—Saturn 90 during the evening hours. This lines-up as a class 1 aspect to his Natal Saturn, t Saturn partile 90 his Natal Saturn very close to Election Day.
3: During the election cycle in 2024 t Saturn will partile cnj his SSR Moon. (This could manifest with health problems forcing him to resign and/or the Dem Party replacing him as their choice for Prez.)
4: Not sure where Biden will be on his next SSR (birthday), but if at his residence in Wilmington, Delaware, his 2023 SSR features a double whammy of angular SSR & Natal Neptune foreground his SSR angles. Usually a-lot of Neptune for a Prez candidate symbolizes disappointment, but again, this could be symbolizing health problems forcing his party to replace him, or Biden resigns his position.
5: I see secondary Jupiter influences but I don’t think enough for Biden to overcome all of the other prominent Saturn-Neptune symbolism I referenced above.

Presently the wagering odds have Trump a slight favorite to win Prez.

[Jim Eshelman]

I have a suggestion: Work up his 2020 win as a contrast. At least part of this he's had since then, especially the Neptune, but I don't remember the full play of the charts. (I forecast his win mostly from Harris chart plus the mundane ingresses.)

[SteveS]

Good suggestion Jim. I have never used Solar Arcs before with my forecasting Prez Elections. I want to eventually go back and look at all the times for first time wins and and first time loses for Prez's. I certainly have never considered Clifford's opinion that in many cases we can expect a Prez Natal & Solar Arcs to flavor the main manifestations of their terms. I find this an interesting concept. I have only use Inaugurations Charts for this task.

A couple more interesting observations I saw with Trump's Tri-Wheel (Natal. Solar Arc, Transits) with Election 24. First and foremost: His Solar Arc Neptune partile cnj his Natal Moon which I would include with his Full Moon Natal. Also, in the heavens with transits---there is a partile Venus- Jupiter 180 falling class 1 aspect to his Full Moon Natal . Using Clifford's opinion that these major Solar Arc hits and transits will color/flavor his term,if elected, then I guess we can expect another termed Prez dealing with all kinds of scandals (Neptune), but whats new? It has gotten in these days, the only way the news media can sell their political news is to focus on scandals (Neptune) with Prez's.

Another interesting tid-bit: Both Biden & Trump assuming they make it to Nov 5 2024 have t Sun partile cnj their Mars, Biden's Natal Mars; Trump's Solar Arc Mars, both excellent symbolic pairs for being elected leader of their Country. Jim, you follow politics much closer than me, you see any interesting prominent symbolism or possibilities for their upcoming runs for Prez?

[Jim Eshelman]

I'm going to do my best to follow my own rule that I keep not following: Don't handicap the game until we know for sure who's playing

PS - In adding the Intermediate section to the Mundoscope chapter, over the last few days I've finished sections on the 90° dial and the mundoscope, the effect of signs on angles (especially Ascendant), parans, and fixed stars via parans. Today's main task is to write the Vertex section. If I get that finished, I'll have wrapped up another chapter.

[SteveS]

Good rule Jim. When you finish with your new writtings--link us up.

[Jim Eshelman]

Good rule Jim. When you finish with your new writtings--link us up.

Each time I finish a significant draft of a chapter or a major new section, I link it up in the CSA sub-forum (that only ongoing members can see - hidden from non-member public). You can see all current drafts in the Newest Versions post link. (And yes, I'll post an announcement in that forum, hopefully by end of today but perhaps not, that the new Intermediate version of the chapter is done.)

[SteveS]

Only if Trump is running for Prez vs Biden on Election Day Nov 5 2024, I would be to see Trump lose this Election based on the transiting action of the Venus-180 Jupiter to his Natal Full Moon. It don’t get much better than benefic transiting Venus-Jupiter combos to a Natal Personal point.

[Arena]

Just as a point of interest (have not looked at anything else) I would like to add the solar eclipse around your next year's elections, on Oct 2nd 2024.

For Joe Biden (if he'll still be alive) the eclipse is almost partile trine his r. Saturn.
Both his luminaries are hit, but not partile. T. Uranus opposite his Sun and T. Pluto square his Moon.

I'm guessing Trump will be his biggest opponent.
This eclipse offers some surprise element for both candidates since t. Uranus is close to Trump's MC and square his Mars and ASC. The t. luminaries are partile his r. Mer. He has t. Jupiter of this eclipse to his advantage, it's conjunct his Node-Sun-Uranus conjunction and opposite his r. Moon.. T. Saturn of the eclipse is not in partile aspect to anything. I don't know what to make of that yod forming to his ASC-Mars by Pluto and Nep though.

IF this would be used to predict which candidate is more likely to win it is most likely Trump, he has the upper hand with this eclipse. But of course there are more things to consider when it comes to astrological vibes affecting these elections.

[SteveS]

Tranks Arena , I will get into the links you provided and take notes and look at some examples in my case files.