Boyd's USA Chart

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I am testing Danica’s new Solar-Lunar (SL) chart discovery with the Boyd Chart for a Saturn-Uranus “outstanding Incident” to occur sometime during its Solar-Lunar year. Uranus is angular and partile 90 Saturn. Ebertin’s COSI Principle for Saturn-Uranus is “Irritability and Inhibition, Tension.” We also have a partile 90 of Sun-Moon in this chart. Prominent Moon-Sun aspects have been associated with major events for the life of a chart. Also very important for this chart: Angular Moon-Pluto opposition forms a direct midpoint of Moon/Pluto = Sun. SL Jupiter partile 180 Boyd's Natal Mars. ***Also note: Possible very important: p SL Moon will exactly 180 both Boyd's SL & Natal Pluto's for this SL year.

Boyd’s Oct 17 2022 Solar-Lunar
https://ibb.co/L8c0fGy

James, feel free to offer any of your sights with the systems you use in your methodologies for this SL chart or Boyd's Natal. Later I will calculate all the "outstanding incident" lunars for this SL year to see if it will isolate a closer time frame for a possible Saturn-Uranus event.
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In the Boyd chart, there is a Uranus sesquisquare Mars primary direction at that time (0° 4' orb)... It's out of orb as we get close to Christmas.

Additionally, there will be coming into effect a Saturn square Mars primary direction in this chart! That certainly seems ominous.

There's much more to look at... ;)
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James wrote:
Additionally, there will be coming into effect a Saturn square Mars primary direction in this chart! That certainly seems ominous.
James, is this a once in lifetime for the life of Boyd’s chart?
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Relatively... the math is different, due to the spherical trigonometry and pole calculations...but TPD Saturn square Mars couldn't happen twice in a normal human lifespan. (well, technically, it could...once direct and once converse, if the person lived a LOOONG life, but that's it)

Roughly, every HOUR (of the Earth's rotation) after birth equates to about 15 years of life events...so that, in a normal life (to age 90), all the aspects for the entire life will happen within 6 hours after birth.

Bottom line: It's extremely rare and I definitely expect (if the Boyd chart is overall valid, and it appears to be) something extreme, matching Saturn-Mars symbolism to happen.
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James wrote:
Bottom line: It's extremely rare and I definitely expect (if the Boyd chart is overall valid, and it appears to be) something extreme, matching Saturn-Mars symbolism to happen.
Thanks James. Yes, I think the Boyd Chart very valid. Firebrace, a Siderealist working with Helen Boyd help rectify the time for Boyd’s USA chart. I am sure if Firebrace was alive today he would fully endorse Danica’s LSs & SLs, mainly because the 1860 Solar Lunar for Boyd’s chart nailed the symbolism for the start (April 12, 1861) of the Civil War with the Q2 Quotidian charts and its partile aspects.

James, If the PD of Mars-Saturn is timed correctly for Boyd’s Chart, we can expect to see Ebertin’s COSI “Principle” for Mars-Saturn in the USA:
Harmful or destructive energy. Inhibited or destroyed vitality.
If this Mars-Saturn “destructive energy” manifests, I suspect it will be timed with the 2022 SL progressed Moon being partile 180 progressed Pluto for some type of “stunning” Pluto event. Time will tell.
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After the Covid crises and the lockdowns being lifted, I saw a significant inflation spiral begin with Solar Arc Boyd's Sun exactly 180 Boyd’s Neptune (inflational financial stuff). This inflation is still spiraling upward at alarming rates. In 2024 Solar Arc Pluto will exactly conjunct Boyd’s angular Saturn which is a “burden” indicator. This could be indicative of continued spiraling inflation being the "burden". Solar Arc Moon partile 90 Boyd’s Natal Mars. Transiting Saturn partiles conjuncts Boyd’s Solar Arc MC and partile 90 Boyd’s Solar Arc ASC in 2024, Vargottama,—maybe the first time in history this has happen with Boyd’s Chart—I need to check.

DCs 2024 Capsolar is a very interesting chart (Master Chart of the Year)! Mundo partile Moon-Neptune conjunction which could be indicative of financial panic type stuff, but Capsolar Jupiter partile 90 Capsolar MC could be indicative of benefic type buying of stuff. This could be indicative of a bubble top in the inflation spiral with the fed panic raising of interest rates. Lots of speculation here on my part and what USA’s financial future holds. I will continue to closely follow the current trend of escalating prices of things, its getting wild-- particularly food cost, and the Fed’s reaction (interest rates going up) to combat possible continued spiraling inflation. We could see panic buying in the Stock Market in 2024 with wild up/down large swings in prices with t. Neptune on the NYSE MC. Just some quick observations here. Time will tell.
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Yesterday with my “outstanding incident” DSLR I discovered this future transit cycle with Boyd’s Chart (July 6 1775, 11:00 AM LMT). It’s the most malefic transit cycle I can see in its entire history. Beginning in July 2025, there is a partile conjunction of two outer malefic planets, Saturn & Neptune. This conjunction falls partile (1 degree or less) on Boyd’s DSC. The Boyd chart is known among other astrologers as a proven timed chart mainly symbolizing waring type conflicts for the USA. Its main angular chart signature is an immediate foreground direct midpoint of Mars/Saturn = ASC (0,36) partile 90 MC. There is a direct midpoint of Uranus/Pluto = ASC partile 90 MC (0,46). Uranus-Pluto symbolism has historically been recognized by other astrologers as a potent “revolutionary” energy/manifestation, and the USA was born from a Revolution involving a declaration of War (conflict) with Britain.

For certain Saturn-Neptune possible tones, here are Jim’s Mundane Bullet points from his book, “Sidereal Mundane Astrology” for Saturn-Neptune symbolism:
Saturn-Neptune:
• GRIEF & LOSS: Saturn-Neptune is a token of extreme grief, loss, and consequent emotional turbulence. Cyril Fagan accurately summarized this as “deep tragedy, accompanied by wailings and lamentations.”
• MASS MURDER: Saturn and Neptune are the most active planets for these events overall, and their mutual aspects are more common than other non-lunar aspects.
1052 Sidereal Mundane Astrology
• MASSACRES: Venus-Pluto and Saturn-Neptune are the most common non-lunar aspects for these staggering intentional slaughters of vast numbers of people.
• FINANCIAL PANICS: Saturn and Neptune are the two most angular planets for severe money crises, bank runs, and financial panics, while Saturn-Neptune and Mars-Saturn aspects are the most common non-lunar aspects in these ingresses.
• EARTHQUAKES: With Saturn-Pluto and Mars-Neptune, these are among the most common angular aspects in ingresses for major earthquakes.
• HURRICANES: Several of the worst hurricanes have occurred with the strong presence and involvement of Saturn-Neptune aspects.
• THRONE TOPPLER: Donald Bradley, in Solar & Lunar Returns, correctly observed that Saturn-Neptune is “a real throne-toppler,” signaling various forms of removal, and “surely takes first prize for forcing resignations, abdications, exiles, deportations, and firings from jobs.” It sustains this reputation in the ingresses for such events.
Since the World is coming off its recent bout with the past Covid epidemic, I feel I should add a footnote from the recent edition of Ebertin’s book, “Combination of Stellar Influences” for Saturn-Neptune symbolism:
The “illness axis,” Saturn/Neptune has been confirmed over and over again both in transit combination in connection with epidemics and in individual charts.
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I asked myself if we are going to see Mars like conflicts manifest with Boyd’s Chart beginning with DC’s July 2025 Cansolar “outstanding incident” angular mundo Moon-Pluto 90, and the transit of the partile Saturn-Neptune conjunction to Boyd’s DSC in July 2025, I need to see another chart with strong Mars symbolized. I think I found it! Boyd’s Oct 17 2024 Solar-Lunar (SL)—t Sun conjunct Boyd’s Moon) chart features an “outstanding incident” Moon-Mars 90---its partile mundo! Also note SL Uranus partile conjunct SL Zenith! This is a super volatile Mo-Ma-Ur set-up! My own personal research with Boyd’s Chart proves to me Boyd’s SLs can be super sensitive charts when prominently aspected. I will be watching closely what happens when Boyd's 2024 SL Moon progresses to partile 180 Boyd’s Natal Moon at 29,17 Virgo beginning in Jan 2025.

As another note: Boyd’s Natal Moon just so happens to partile conjunct the star Spica (eclipto). I don’t know for sure if this holds any kind of exalted symbolic meaning. I know the ancients thought Spica special, maybe exalted that we moderns don't fully understand. I know this: The ancient sages for Vedic Astrology used vargottama as an exalted position for refined predictive purposes, but modern Vedic astrologers ignore as important. Boyd’s Natal Moon is vargottama at its peak of vargottama orb.

Boyd’s Oct 17 2024 SL (t. Sun conjunct Boyd’s Moon):

https://ibb.co/tYmBpcx

Here are Jim’s Mundane Moon-Mars researched tones for Sidereal Mundane Astrology Ingress Charts, which I would strongly consider for any proven timed National Chart as the Boyd Chart.
Moon-Mars
Any year where the Capsolar has this aspect, we anticipate violence, blood, fire, explosions, and destruction often culminating in significant loss of life at locations that bring this strong influence into focus. Specific types of events identified include:
• LEADER DEATHS/CRISES. Close Moon-Mars aspects were in the Capsolars for President Harding’s death, shootings of Presidents Ford and Reagan, and the murder of Garfield, Archduke Ferdinand, Gandhi, Sadat, and others.
• WAR & OTHER ATTACK. The beginning of war, or of extreme warlike actions, occurs under this influence. This includes domestic military actions and other extreme acts of violence.
• FIRES & EXPLOSIONS. Several major fires (including some of the worst fires on record) had this aspect close. The same is true of bombs, major explosions; and highly destructive natural disasters, particularly those that were fiery and explosive in nature.
• EARTHQUAKES. Mars, Saturn, and Neptune most commonly aspect Moon.
• VEHICULAR CATASTROPHE. Mars leads in lunar aspects, is aggressively involved in other foreground aspects, and joins Uranus and Mercury as most often angular.
But understand--there are no Moon-Mars aspects in the 2025 Capsolar, only in Boyd's Oct 17 SL which will be in effect for a year to Oct 17 2025.
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The Boyd Chart has correlated symbolism with USA wars involments in the past, starting with its Declaration of War on Britain with its July 6 1775 radical chart. With USA involvement in supporting Ukraine in its war vs Russia and now with USA supporting Israel with its war with Hamas (Iran) by sending a strong military presence (Navy) to the region, I wanted to take a look at the future symbolic action with the Boyd Chart, particularly with its Mars.

In late 2024 early 2025 Secondary Progressed Mars (05,36 Pi), coincidently partile conjunct the SVP, will partile/exact 180 Natal Mars (05,46 Vir) and soon thereafter in late 2025--early 2026 partile 180 Natal ASC (07,56 Vir); or, another way to look at this with cusp-house symbolism-- partile conjunct Natal DSC a point traditional astrology has looked upon as symbolizing “open- enemies” (Russia/Iran) in the Mundane World. Also a glaring up-coming transit during the same time period of this worrisome Mars action--- t Saturn-Neptune partile conjunction will partile 180 Natal Mars. If the World continues to see these War fronts continue to escalate, I will take all this soon to be (a couple of years from now) upcoming Boyd Mars action seriously. Hopefully, Peace can be arranged but I have my doubts...
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Relative to my last post, I have much more possible important astrological symbolism pertaining to this Declaration of War Boyd Chart for Philadelphia July 6 1775 11:00 AM LMT, looking out to 2025. It’s very ominous for some type of possible major war perspectives.
1: Radical Sun 22,39 Gem. Feb 23 2025 Mars Stationed at 21,55 Gem, partile cnj r Sun!
2: Radical Mars 05,46 Virgo. Secondary Progressed Mars Feb 23 2025: 05,50 Pisces, partile 180 r Mars.
3: Relocated Philadelphia ASC to Washington DC 06,25 Virgo, partile 180 sp Mars 05,50 Pisces
If, and only if, we see major war scenes in the World escalating involving USA involvement, the Feb 23 2025 time period will be critical to pay close attention with a Station Mars on Boyd's Sun.

Now, here comes another possible important astrological factor. Only if Trump is running for Prez Nov 5 2024 and wins Prez, there is most interesting ominous war-like symbolism for his 2025 SSR no matter where he may be located for his 2025 SSR.
1: Trump’s 2025 SSR Mars is partile cnj his rising Natal Mars; SSR Mars is partile 90 SSR Uranus. This partile Mars-Uranus 90 will be “locked-in” for his entire 2025 solar year. But, anywhere on the East Coast this SSR Mars will not be angular.
2: 2025 SSR Moon is 1,48 cnj SSR Pluto; t Pluto will partile and exact cnj his SSR Moon for his 2025 solar year.
3: Secondary Progressed Moon will partile and exact 180 his Natal Pluto during his 2025 solar year.

4: With Trump’s 2025 SSR there is a partile cnj of Saturn-Neptune 06,10 Pi & 06,58 PI respectively. This partile Saturn-Neptune cnj will be partile 180 Boyd’s r Mars & DC’s r ASC; partile cnj Boyd’s DC DSC (open enemies).
5: DC's 2025 Capsolar feactures a mundo partile 180 Mars-Sun.
6: DC's 2025 Cansolar is malefically structured.
I will let Jim handled the delinations of these two most important ingresses when the time arrives.

*This Secondary Progresses Boyd Mars partile 180 r Mars in Feb 2025 and Boyd’s relocated DC ASC-- will be another superb test for R.C. Firebrace & Helen Boyd’s rectified time for this Declaration of War USA Chart. This rectified time appears to very accurate with Solar Arc Pluto partile cnj Boyd’s ASC in 2020 when the Covid complete shutdowns of USA stunned the Country. A seriuos treat for some kind of major Mars event in 2025 should manifest.

TIME will eventually tell the astrological truths for these charts!
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SteveS wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:08 am 5: DC's 2025 Capsolar features a mundo partile 180 Mars-Sun.
6: DC's 2025 Cansolar is malefically structured.
I will let Jim handled the delineations of these two most important ingresses when the time arrives.
OK, I might as well look at it now :)

Capsolar: The good news for the U.S. is that the Sun-Mars aspect is irrelevant. Neither Sun nor Mars is foreground. The basic rule for interpreting ingresses is that (except where Moon aspects are involved) non-foreground planets act as if they don't exist.

The January 15, 2025 Capsolar for the U.S. is a fairly minor chart. The most excitement one is likely to get out of this chart is a strong uprising of the spirit of the people in mass reaction or waves of feeling. The one super-strong factor for the U.S. is Moon 0°27' from EP-a. A secondary angularity (rather wide) is Uranus 2°21' from Zenith. This is a little bit of "rise up and awake" but not with the intensity we normally see for mass uprisings. It's mostly a very neutral "waves of mass response from the people."

The Cansolar is not malefically toned. Again, it's fairly neutral, though we are back in another Pluto period suggesting him impact emotions and some sort of stunning psychological effects. Moon, Sun, and Pluto are all closely-to-moderately foreground: Pluto 2°42' from Descendant Moon 3°00' from MC form a 0°18' mundane square. Sun is also foreground, 2°39' above Ascendant.

Since we've had so many Moon-Pluto aspects in recent years, the extraordinary and shocking has become the everyday and ordinary, but this Cansolar has extremely strong thing that might be easily missed: Mundanely the Sun/Pluto midpoint is 0°01' off angles. This aspect always welcomes unprecedented conditions and irrevocable shifts of circumstances somehow (whether climate or weather shifts or political events). Repeated motifs in human behavior include removal of those in power, rebellion against prevailing conditions (to welcome new conditions), and disrespect for and disobeying of the law. - Please note that the only thing this chart shows is high impact and shifting conditions: It doesn't bias positive or negative. However, most stunning events do tend to destabilize things and make folks more uncomfortable.
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Thanks Jim---this really helps me a-lot with my analysis for possible happenings with the upcoming Boyd's chart's symbolism. This tells me if Trump is elected Prez in 2024 Elections---at least 50% probability he will be removed from office. More later...
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With the Boyd Chart, I have been pointing out for 2025 what I believe has high % for producing some type of sp angular Mars crises backed-upped with a partile t Saturn-Neptune cnj partile 180 r Mars & ASC. For these aspects to possibly be activated into these symbolic possible malefic manifestations, a Solar Arc enthusiasts such as myself would expect to see a major angular “Life Development” on the Boyd Chart for 2025, and we do see one. Its Solar Arc Boyd Moon partile cnj r MC, the first time in USA’s history for a d Moon = r MC. What clues could this be telling us? Traditional Mundane astrology tells us the Moon represents the “People” of a Country. If indeed this Boyd Moon represents the “People” of the Country, then this Mars-Saturn-Neptune-ASC symbolism could manifest internally/politically with the “People” of the USA.

Only if Trump is elected Prez in 2024 and with half the voting Country hating Trump & other half loving Trump, then we could see the above malefic Boyd symbolism manifest internally and politically in the Country.

Trump’s 2025 SSR no matter where he will be located features a double whammy of Moon-Pluto symbolism. Moon-Pluto symbolism is serious “intense” emotional feelings that has the potential to “stun & shock” his senses.
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