Firebrace Mundane Methodology.

[SteveS]

Jim has just brought to my attention Firebrace Mundane Astrology Methodology of comparing/synastry the Nation’s DC Master Chart of the year, the 2024 Capsolar, to the Nation’s Radical Chart (Hazelrigg’s USA Radical). Firebrace wrote a small booklet on this Methodology titled “Wars in the Sidereal” which is out of print, but Jim has an old copy somewhere in his storage and is going to try and locate it to make me a copy. If so, I will try to post Firebrace main points from this booklet, but I think we all know the main Sidereal points for comparing any type of charts. Let’s take a look at this methodology and see what we may guess for its main theme planetary symbolism? Below is a link highlighting most of Sidereal Astrology’s main points for a comparison/synastry chart:

2014 Capsolar inside wheel; Hazelrigg USA chart outside wheel.
https://ibb.co/3rCLMXk

We see here a soon to be after the 2014 DCs Capsolar sets-up, a progressed Capsolar Moon partile conjuncting Capsolar Neptune and 180 r Neptune both partile 90 r Mars. 2014 Capsolar Jupiter partile 90 Capsolar MC. Radical Moon partile cnj Capsolar’s Zenith. Capsolar Mars 1,01 opposes r Jupiter. Here is my best guess for what this planetary symbolism will bring to this Nation with a strong hint already coming from the State of Colorado attempting to test the Laws of the Land by attempting to keep Trump off their voting ballots for Prez. Please offer your take on this Firebrace Methodology.

We already know we have a highly sensitive emotional divided politicalize Nation. IMHO, this is symbolized with this synastry methodology with a Moon- Moon-Neptune-Neptune-Mars. In other words, USA Hazelrigg National Chart partile Mars 90 Neptune is being activated big time backed with Moon symbolism. The Mars-Jupiter-Jupiter probably is symbolizing a disputed (Mars) legal judiciary (Jupiter) system. If this interpretation is correct-- Buckle-up folks for a wild 2024 election year!

[Jim Eshelman]

Now that I'm home and can write more liberally, I should add that this approach has never impressed me. I've looked here and there, though not much, and never been blown away. Firebrace's examples had interesting contacts but they also double the number of factors and triple the number of possible aspects, which makes it harder to decisively say, "Yes, this was a hit caused by this technique!"

BTW, you can also see some of Firebrace's remarks on this approach in his quarterly analyses of solar ingresses. Going only from memory, I recall him saying things like, "I think for anything to happen it has to connect to a country's natal chart.' He didn't understand dormant ingresses, though (nobody did) which would have made it seem that some charts just weren't doing anything.

I'll take a few categories of big events specifically, distinctly American and compare them to some ingresses. I think maybe since the strongest match to events among ingresses (standing on their own) is the lunar ingress that is the Week Chart, I'll take the most recent non-dormant lunar ingress and see how the U.S. natal planets fall - treating them as if they were return charts.

[Jim Eshelman]

South Carolina Secedes
Caplunar 12/14: This is what I consider the real start of the Civil War, and that makes it as remarkably good example since U.S. natal Mars rises! The ingress itself is OK enough but wouldn't be read as showing a really big event. But adding U.S. natal planets puts Mars on Ascendant opposed (partile) by transiting Sun setting. More widely foreground is transiting Jupiter opposite natal Moon - not sure what that means. Overall, though, this is one of the best I recall seeing.

U.S. Enters WW I
Transiting Venus-Mars conjunction on Zenith squares natal Venus rising (natal Venus and Jupiter straddle Asc), with Pluto also conjunct natal Venus. While a little mixed, this is typical enough of charts for going to war (altering foreign relationships). The chart might tell the story perfectly well without the U.S. natal, but the natal Venus in the mix adds a touch.

Pearl Harbor
Canlunar 12/7: The ingress is good enough on its own, with Saturn 8' from WP and Uranus on WP-a. Adding the U.S. natal adds one thing: Natal Moon close to IC in close square by transiting Uranus. Though I'm not sure I'd described the event better on seeing this, I'd at least have thought the events unusually surprising and directly effecting the American people rousing a mass-mind wave. It's pretty good.

VE Day
Caplunar 5/3: No contribution from the U.S. natal.

Hiroshima
Arilunar 7/30: This chart is confusing at best, and I tend to reject it. By itself, the ingress has Neptune on Zenith in Washington, which is fine. Adding the U.S. chart we get natal Venus exactly setting - admittedly squared (60') by that Neptune. It could be taken as appropriate, but I think it's a stretch and can't give it any points.

Because it's so ambiguous, I'll give this event one more shot by also checking the Caplunar a week earlier. It's already a good chart with a Mercury-Mars square on angles ("attack by air" among other things). U.S. natal Moon sets, opposed by the Mercury and widely squared by mars. Again, this could be read as fitting, but it's not an obvious fit.

VJ Day
Arilunar (8/27): This ingress has always bothered me because it seemed more war-like than peace-like, with transiting Uranus and Mars straddling Ascendant. Adding the U.S. natal on the inside ring makes it both more warlike and more personal to the country: That rising transiting Mars is the same degree as the U.S. natal Mars (square Neptune), while natal Moon is about 1° from MC. I'm not quite sure what to make of this (but I had the problem with the ingress already).

Korean War Armistice
Caplunar 7/25: The ingress is good on its own, with a Venus-Jupiter conjunction setting. Adding the U.S. chart is a little confusing, putting natal Mars-Uranus around the angle, but its strongest add is natal Venus on WP-a. That's a win for a peace chart.

Bay of Pigs Invasion
Arilunar 4/14: The ingress by itself is boring, but U.S. natal Mars is on Descendant, a solid hit. (It would be better if it were slightly closer, but it's right symbolism. What's not right, though, is natal Jupiter on WP: We looked really bad on this one, it reduced our prestige internationally.

Fall of Saigon
Canlunar 4/18: Pluto is precisely (almost to the minute) rising among other things. Adding the U.S. chart fits, and perhaps well, since it puts natal Venus (and, more widely, Jupiter) at MC squared by the rising Pluto and more widely angular Jupiter.

If we regard this as a peace event ("end of the Vietnam war"), it fits very well. If we take it as a defeat, adding the natal planets makes it a worse chart (Jupiter square Jupiter is not "our worst failure"). In their case, the precisely rising Pluto square natal Venus means a substantial shift in foreign relations - the type of aspect that begins and ends wars.

9/11
Arilunar 9/6: The Arilunar is boring but precise: Moon in the exact degree of Descendant. This was not the ingress that best showed the event, but it showed quite precisely the powerful mass-mind uprising. Adding the U.S. natal might be deemed better because natal Mercury is precisely on MC opposite natal Pluto on IC. However, the Pluto (which would have been most appropriate) is a bit too wide. I'm not going to give this any new points.

The ingress that most showed 9/11 was the Cansolar, one of the most stunning mundane chart that ever was. Does that Moon-Venus-Mars-Saturn-Pluto spread across the horizon tie into U.S. planets? Yes, but only one: Natal Uranus is moderately rising. I don't consider this a very strong or precise showing especially because (ingresses or returns aside) we have the strongest hit to this Uranus from pure transits: At the time of the 9/11 attacks, transiting Pluto was 35' from opposite natal Uranus.

Benghazi Attack
Arilunar 9/4: Another chart of Pluto precisely angular (and exactly square Uranus). That Uranus-Pluto closely aspect U.S. natal Venus-Jupiter in the foreground is fitting - as is natal Mars on EP-a. This one is pretty good.

Afghanistan War
Arilunar 10/3: Adding natal planets contributes nothing.

[Jim Eshelman]

We should expect the U.S. natal Sun-Saturn square to be commonly engaged for these. Is it?

William Henry Harrison Death
Canlunar 3/30: Adding natal planets contributes nothing to the event.

Zachary Taylor Death
Caplunar 6/26: Natal planets add nothing related to the event.

Abraham Lincoln murdered
Liblunar 4/11: Natal planets add nothing. Natal Moon is on EP-a, squared exactly by Venus - all wrong.

James Garfield murdered
Canlunar 6/27 (shot): A perfect ingress isn't improved by natal planets, although there is one possibly meaningful connection: Natal Moon is on EP-a moderately squared by transiting Pluto.

Canlunar 9/17 (died): Quite similar to the prior one. The ingress is quite good alone. I can't say it's improved with the natals. The one contact is natal Moon on EP-a, but this time the square from Pluto too wide. I'm not impressed.

William McKinley Murdered
Caplunar 8/26 (shot): Natal planets add something, but not with great precision. Transiting Pluto is most angular, and natal Mars joins it as next most angular. Uranus opposes natal Uranus foreground, but in the wide foreground. The planets are right, but it isn't very sharp.

Canlunar 9/8 (died): This one is good! The Canlunar by itself seems wrong with Venus rising; but it turns out to be Venus rising conjunct an equally angular natal Saturn. This one is accurate and improves an otherwise wrong chart to be exactly right.

Warren G. Harding Died
Caplunar 7/26: The ingress is mixed in the first place (not all that good) and natal planets do nothing to improve it.

Franklin Roosevelt Died
Arilunar: Not a fabulous chart. The ingress isn't great itself (but OK). Natal planets make natal Jupiter and Mars strongest, and the natal Mars is squared by closely angular transiting Jupiter - more a sign of strength. The one noteworthy placement is that, in the moderate foreground, transiting Saturn is 5' from conjunct natal Venus. However, that transit was around for the death anyway, and closer (at time of death, natal Venus was conjunct t Saturn 4', sq t Neptune 37'). I don't think adding the natals to the ingress helped.

John F. Kennedy murdered
Liblunar: The ingress is solid by itself, but it gives us exactly what we want: Natal Saturn is in the degree of Descendant square Sun. Some things detract, but for the most part it's just right.

Richard Nixon Resigned
Arilunar 8/9: Interesting but not persuasive. The ingress itself is quite good. Adding natal planets brings a mix of Mars and Venus, neither one very close. The one possible fit is natal Uranus on EP-a (though this would have been better if the angular transiting Mars-Neptune aspected it).

[Jim Eshelman]

Current impression: I'm not impressed. There are some strong ones here and there, but I'm underwhelmed with how adding the natal planets affected the charts.

[SteveS]

Thanks Jim for your knowledge/experience and feedback with this methodology. Since the Capsolar is the Master Chart of the year have you tested it with the National Chart? For example: For 2024 if I did not see an important National Mars-Neptune event by the end of March 2024, I will definitely join you in not being impressed with this methodology. Why by the end of March 2024? Because by then secondary progressed 2024 DC’s Capsolar Moon will be out of partile aspect (0 90 180) with Capsolar Neptune and National Mars & Neptune.

[Jim Eshelman]

Since the Capsolar is the Master Chart of the year have you tested it with the National Chart?

All formal testing is what I showed above. The Capsolar is the last one I'd test for specific events because it's a full one-year chart. In studying big events, the Capsolar isn't as good for judging specific events as shorter term charts (in the same way that you're far more likely to get a good result for a personal event from the current SLR or Demi than from the SSR.) (Sports events are an exception to that, but I think that's because the lunar ingresses simply don't speak of those events.)

Capsolars are still great, of course. In the SMA study, they correctly described events 89-90% of the time, just slightly better than the "seven times in eight" that seems the cut-off place of legitimate mundane techniques. In comparison, weekly lunar ingresses described the event 93% of the time (about 14 times out of 15), so I started there.

But Firebrace, in his published work, certainly used national birth charts with ingresses. I doubt I have time to dig through Spica for examples, but you can check his quarterly solar ingress articles for examples since you have all the copies.

-- I just did a quick check. As an example, I think you might want to read Firebrace's discussion of the 1972 Capsolar, which also includes a page or so summarizing what he had observed more broadly. This is on page 1800 of the PDFs of all the Spica issues we have thanks to you, which is in the January 1972 issue.

For example: For 2024 if I did not see an important National Mars-Neptune event by the end of March 2024, I will definitely join you in not being impressed with this methodology. Why by the end of March 2024? Because by then secondary progressed 2024 DC’s Capsolar Moon will be out of partile aspect (0 90 180) with Capsolar Neptune and National Mars & Neptune.

Quite interesting idea to compare the CapQ Moon to the U.S. natal chart. That will be quite interesting to watch (and consistent with the idea that it is like a SSR sorta kinda). Of course, it has to be a specifically martial (or Mars-Neptune) event since we get the Neptune influence from the Capsolar itself regardless (and there will be transiting Neptune aspects to the Moon during the entire time). While we know this has about a degree orb in both directions, here are the dates of exact hit of CapQ Moon to various points:

29°37' Tau - US r Mars - Feb 13, 2024
0°15' Pis - Capsolar Neptune - Feb 29, 2024
0°48' Vir - US r Neptune - Mar 14, 2024

Just for Neptune influence, t Neptune will conjoin CapQ Moon within 1° March 16 to July 19 (exact on June 25).

[SteveS]

Jim wrote:

Quite interesting idea to compare the CapQ Moon to the U.S. natal chart.

Indeed, its pure Sidereal Astrology which we have been taught. All I am doing is following your Solar Moon SSR guidelines from your book “Interpreting Solar Returns” (ISR)-- but for a mundane Firebrace situation instead of personal situation, since you stated that Firebrace methodology is looked upon as:

a two-ringer exactly like a return chart.

So, I interpret your words above as the same where I would take my SSR charts with a “two-ringer” with my Natal and do exactly as you instruct with 0 90 180 Solar Moons to solar planets and natal planets, but instead I am doing the same with the Capsolar Return with the National Chart as a "two ringer". For example: I have proven to myself the truth of your ISR book when I see a sp Solar Moon make 0 90 180 partile hits to either my SSR planets or my Natal Planets, during the partile 0 90 180 hits I have always gotten solid manifestations of the planet with the sp SSR Moons. So now I want to test the same with a "two ringer" wheel with the 2024 Capsolar with the National Chart to see if it manifests the same as it would a “two ringer” with a SSR to a Natal. But in the 2024 case with its DC’s Capsolar we get a double whammy of Moon-Neptune, one with a sp Capsolar Moon partile conjunction to Capsolar Neptune and the other to complete the double whammy of sp Capsolar Moon partile 180 to National Neptune with a strong mix of National Mars with sp Capsolar Moon. What all this Moon-Mars-Neptune-Neptune may interpret-out for 2024-- only makes good common sense to me to have something to do with the 2024 Prez election. The power Dems already know they are more than likely in big trouble with a Biden ticket vs Trump—so they must take all measures possible to somehow stop Trump. I know no better way to stop Trump by either putting him in jail or stop him on State Ballots with criminal intent, but I don’t understand enough power politics to see how this would be possible unless the power Dems are drying to destroy Trump’s political image, which is normal slander stuff for either party to exercise during a Prez election cycle. But by following present polls and the betting odds for Biden ticket vs Trump, the more the power Dems try to destroy Trumps political image—the more Trump rises in the polls and betting odds to win 2024 Prez.
Jim wrote:

…here are the dates of exact hit of CapQ Moon to various points:
29°37' Tau - US r Mars - Feb 13, 2024
0°15' Pis - Capsolar Neptune - Feb 29, 2024
0°48' Vir - US r Neptune - Mar 14, 2024
Just for Neptune influence, t Neptune will conjoin CapQ Moon within 1° March 16 to July 19 (exact on June 25).

Exactly Jim! All par-excellent symbolism for a wild and crazy disputed (Moon-Mars-Neptune) 2024 Prez election, IMHO. So, by the end of March I want to see clear Moon-Mars-Neptune-Neptune manifesting big time across the USA in order for me to give Firebrace methodology a chance of offering valid proof for a "two ringer" wheel like we normally do for a standard SSR--Natal "two ringer" wheel. I have always looked-upon the partile Mars-Neptune 90 in the National Chart as symbolizing a divisive/disputed/convoluted nature at few times in the history for the people of the USA. What better stage for this planetary "nature" to manifest than a huge political stage for Prez backed by a media which all voter's eyes/ears are glued to....

[SteveS]

If 2024 turns out to be a very chaotic year for USA, IMHO, Firebrace basic Sidereal Astrology’s methodology in this tread will be traced back to the 2024 Capsolar year bi-wheeled to USA’s National Chart. This bi-wheeled chart offers some of the worst chaotic planetary symbolism I have ever seen for the USA. BTW, PBD is predicting a very chaotic year for the USA in 2024. Time will tell.

[SteveS]

I have stated that I see with Firebrace methodology DCs 2024 Capsolar exciting USA’s Hazelrigg’s Radical Chart’s partile Mars-Neptune 90 aspect, which IMHO would symbolizes some-type of chaotic Mars-Neptune conditions in the USA. Definitely the standalone 2024 DC Capsolar does not symbolize chaotic conditions, IMO. So, if I don’t see some-type of extreme Mars-Neptune chaotic conditions occur sometime in DC’s 2024 Capsolar year, I will consider Firebrace methodology a failure using the Master Chart of the year--DC's Capsolars.

As further testing with this methodology, I will go back into USA’s history and take what I consider the most chaotic Mars-Neptune conditions to ever occur in one Capsolar year, and IMHO it was the Stock Market crash in 1929 Capsolar’s year. Did DC’s 1929 Capsolar excite USA’s Hazelrigg’s partile 90 of Mars-Neptune? It most certainly did! Hazelrigg’s Radical Neptune was partile cnj DC’s 1929 Capsolar MC, Partile 90 Hazelrigg’s Radical Mars. Also, 1929 Capsolar Mars 1,15 cnj Hazelrigg’s Mars.

Note: I am not forecasting a Stock Market Panic for DC’s 2024 just because I see with Firebrace methodology Hazelrigg’s partile Mars-Neptune partile 90 being activated, I am only testing with Firebrace methodology for possible very chaotic Mars-Neptune conditions in USA for DC's 2024 Capsolar Chart bi-wheeled with Hazelrigg's Radical Chart. DC’s standalone 1929 Capsolar forecasted panic-like conditions with its partile Moon 180 Neptune alone with angular Saturn symbolism. What I am testing with Firebrace Methodology is when DC’s Capsolars, the Master Chart of the year for USA, excites the partile Mars-Neptune 90 in the Hazelrigg Radical Chart--- would be a valid warning sign for some type of USA Mars-Neptune chaotic conditions.

[Jim Eshelman]

FWIW, here are the most common historic consequences of close Mars-Neptune aspects foreground in ingresses:

Panic, terror: surging adrenaline + heightened aroused emotion (positive or negative). Increasing risk of treachery, sabotage, other betrayal, poisoned relationships, and scandal. Feeling the ground fall out from under one’s feet. Specific expressions include fires, earthquakes, other violent natural events, bombs and explosions, leader deaths or crises, populist uprisings and mobs and the response they draw, and financial panics. (Toxic exposure, infectious or feverish disease.)

The 2024 U.S. Capsolar isn't the same thing, partly because it involves U.S. natal Mars-Neptune and mostly because these are Moon aspects to Mars and Neptune separately. Sometimes this can manifest in the sense of triggering the underlying aspect (Mars-Neptune) as a whole, but we might also see the Moon-Mars progressions and Moon-Neptune progressions acting separately. I think this is important because - regardless of the Mars-Neptune involvement - we know we will have extensive Moon-Neptune activity anyway (since transiting Neptune will spend many months aspecting Cansolar or CanQ Moon). Here are the two aspects separately:

This creates a heightened state of emergency or alarm. Typical expressions are violence, blood, fire, bombs, earthquakes, accidents, and other destruction, often causing significant loss of life. Other forms include war, bombings, and other attacks, and the death or crisis of leaders. (Mars’ effect is not limited to those categories.)

Waves of heightened emotional reaction, fervor, herd-mind arousal, or panic accompanied by confusion, disorientation, uncertainty, and an undermined sense of security. Typical events include tornadoes, major fires, structural collapses, and economic panic.

[SteveS]

Thanks Jim for this excellent feedback. I really don’t know exactly how Firebrace was using his methodology since I have not studied his work. But, I suppose if his methodology works we will see some hard core Mars-Neptune manifestations in 2024, and if his methodology does not work we will only see a lot of Moon-Neptune symbolism just with the 2024 Capsolar, not with Hazelrigg’s chart’s symbolism. IMO, Moon-Neptune would be normal par-excellent symbolism for the emotionally of an election year for Prez with current super-charged psychological conditions which exist between the Dems & Reps. I want to do some more historical experimentation with the Capsolars combined with Hazelrigg’s chart with what I consider major events in USA history.

[SteveS]

For the assignation of JFK in 1963, DC’s 1963 Capsolar, the Master Chart of the year, featured a foreground Moon partile cnj Hazelrigg’s (Declaration of Independence) chart’s Neptune. This activated its radical partile Mars-Neptune 90. DC’s 1963 Capsolar also featured a partile Venus-Pluto 90 strongly symbolizing a “stunning/shocking” altering separation of a relationship.

[Jim Eshelman]

For the assignation of JFK in 1963, DC’s 1963 Capsolar, the Master Chart of the year, featured a foreground Moon partile cnj Hazelrigg’s (Declaration of Independence) chart’s Neptune. This activated its radical partile Mars-Neptune 90. DC’s 1963 Capsolar also featured a partile Venus-Pluto 90 strongly symbolizing a “stunning/shocking” altering separation of a relationship.

The Venus-Pluto isn't foreground, but the Moon triggering natal Mars-Neptune is dead-on. U.S. president deaths are triggered primarily by activation of the natal Mars-Neptune and the natal Sun-Saturn.

Even though the Capsolar is dormant and, for the most part, not to be read, Moon's aspects are important worldwide, so this is quite a good connection.

To me, the really interesting chart for this event is the Liblunar. This is interesting for complicated reasons. Kennedy's murder occurred just after a new Caplunar, which was dormant: It's the exact chart that first got me thinking about the theory of dormancy because - the "master chart of the month" having nothing to so, the Liblunar one week earlier showed the event most vividly, having a partile Jupiter-Pluto across the horizon in Washington and the Venus-Mars-Uranus-Pluto cluster angular for Dallas. What I now see is that the Liblunar's Washington Ascendant was 22°55' Pisces, exactly activating U.S. natal Sun-Saturn.

It's not perfect because natal Venus-Jupiter is also on IC. That makes it at least complicated (they are in mundane square to the coup d'etat Jupiter-Pluto across the horizon). What's interesting to me, though, is that the dormant Caplunar did not even show the event with U.S. natal planets added. The chart itself was unreadable, and the description of the event fell back to the Liblunar one week earlier - which brought in natal Sun-Saturn.

[SteveS]

Jim wrote:

What I now see is that the Liblunar's Washington Ascendant was 22°55' Pisces, exactly activating U.S. natal Sun-Saturn.

Excellent observation Jim! When I look at USA’s National Chart, what immediately jumps out to my mind are possible very malefic aspects of 1: the angular class 1 square of Sun-Saturn and 2: the partile Mars-Neptune 90 for symbolizing potential malefic manifestations during the life of the USA; although, I have to allow the angular Sun-Saturn square as symbolizing a great benefic consolidation of wealth, and as far as I know USA still holds the most amount of gold the world has ever produced. IMO, Mars-Neptune symbolism is one of the most malefic aspects known to astrology and has always been a red flag for my work.

Also, since you and I know how important Moon symbolism is for any type of Solar Return Chart, when we see major 0 90 180 Capsolar Moon aspects with Firebrace methodology with USA National Chart it highly alerts me to a possible major event if wired in to USA’s Sun-Saturn or Mars-Neptune aspects. With you picking-off the angular Sun-Saturn in the preceding Liblunar reminds me of Bradley’s methodology for looking for Lunars to help time when the major symbolism for a Solar Return/Ingress to manifest, and Sun-Saturn for an assassination is par-excellent symbolism.

This Firebrace methodology for comparing a Capsolar to the National Chart is becoming more interesting. Since it appears the 2024 Capsolar Moon is set-up to possibly fire-off USA’s Mars-Neptune aspect; do we need to analyze all 48 of the weekly Ingress Lunars back to USA Chart for isolating a possible week when USA’s Mars-Neptune symbolism may fire-off?

[Jim Eshelman]

Since I have all U.S. Capsolars from 1775 already calculated, we can test your theory about Moon aspects pretty easily with Solar Fire. Maybe we just got lucky with the Kennedy example, or maybe there is a pattern.

U.S. Mars is 29°37' Taurus, Neptune 0°48' Virgo. Here are all Capsolars with Moon within 1°30' of 0°13' Spoke (using the midpoint simply as a convenient measuring place to get about a degree earlier than Mars and later than Neptune).

1780 (with Uranus), 1801, 1839, 1845 (with Venus), 1864, 1904, 1942, 1963, 2005 (with Pluto), 2022 (with Mars)



U.S. Sun is 21°31' Gemini, Saturn 23°11' Virgo. Here are all Capsolars with Moon within 1°30' of 22°21' Spoke (using the midpoint simply as a convenient measuring place to get about a degree earlier than Sun and later than Saturn).

1873, 1932 (with Uranus), 1991 (with Neptune)



U.S. Venus is 11°14' Gemini, Jupiter 14°16' Gemini. Here are all Capsolars with Moon within 2°30' of 12°45' Spoke (using the midpoint simply as a convenient measuring place to get about a degree earlier than Venus and later than Jupiter). With the wider orb range we'll have more examples, but this would provide examples of a positive nature if this is a valid technique.

1778 (with Venus), 1818 (with Venus), 1835, 1875, 1877, 1894, 1913 (with Mercury), 1919 (with Pluto), 1936, 1995, 2016
(This list btw includes some powerful Capsolars on their own.)

[SteveS]

Thanks Jim.

[SteveS]

IMO, The most stunning/shocking political event to ever happen in USA’s history happened to DS’s party elites (both parties) in the 2016 election cycle when elites in both parties labeled Trump a clown as a viable Prez candidate. Trump first stomped his established Republicans opposition for Prez, and then totally shocked the Democratic Party’s candidate for Prez, Hillary Clinton. Let’s look at Firebrace methodology with the Master Chart of the Year, the DC 2016 Capsolar and USA's Radical Chart. Firebrace technology displays outstanding symbolism IMHO.

1: First for the psychological Stunning/Shock Value for this USA event, electing a non-politician to Prez---a billionaire businessman, Donald Trump. Note both Capsolar Pluto and USA Pluto angular—USA Pluto partile cnj Capsolar Zenith.

2: Second, for this huge revolutionary political event—Capsolar Uranus partile 90 Capsolar MC---class 1 90 to Capsolar Pluto. Also, very important to note Capsolar Uranus partile 90 USA Sun & Capsolar IC; Capsolar partile 180 USA ASC; Capsolar Uranus class 1 opposition to USA Saturn. Unreal Uranus symbolism here with a totally unexpected shake-up in the entire DC political landscape as well for USA as a whole.

3: Now note: when sp Capsolar Moon starts its partile cnj to Capsolar Uranus and its partile 90 180 aspects to USA Sun, ASC, Saturn and Capsolar MC it starts and culminates when it starts to become obvious to the people of USA, a labeled clown by both political parties is going to be elected Prez. This one astonishing secondary progressed motion by this Capsolar 2016 Moon firing-off all of these 0 90 180 aspects has now convinced me to put this Firebrace technology into my Sidereal Astrology tool bag.
Inner Wheel 2016 Capsolar; Outer Wheel USA JULY 4 1776 Radical.
https://ibb.co/jr50JBq

[SteveS]

Looking past what I think is going to be a wild & crazy 2024 election cycle—to 2025 non-dormant Moon Capsolar with USA Chart, I basically see no malefic action with 2025 Master Chart of the Year. This tells me if any major malefic action is to manifest in USA in 2025, it most likely will come from the angular Mars-Uranus-Pluto USA 2024 SSR, more than enough to turn the country upside down in 2025 with Trump as Prez or a calm 2025 Capsolar year with Trump possibly assassinated before 2024 election.

[SteveS]

With the help of Firebrace's methodology for analyzing our Master Chart of the Year, the Capsolar, and with Jim pointing me to Firebrace’s methodology-- I wrote on Dec 24 2023:

We already know we have a highly sensitive emotional divided politicalize Nation. IMHO, this is symbolized with this synastry methodology with a Moon- Moon-Neptune-Neptune-Mars. In other words, USA Hazelrigg National Chart partile Mars 90 Neptune is being activated big time backed with Moon symbolism. The Mars-Jupiter-Jupiter probably is symbolizing a disputed (Mars) legal judiciary (Jupiter) system. If this interpretation is correct-- Buckle-up folks for a wild 2024 election year!

And this election cycle is far from over.