What about animals and insects?

[billy77]

We are part-animal, Hell, even part-insect if you consider our hive societies and our basic biological functions. Yes us terrestrial creatures we are all omni-dimensional beings hence , imo, the planetary and stellar impacts upon our inner - outer existence. With that said, what about insect and animal natal charts?

[Jim Eshelman]

All living things likely have a horoscope. What the individual factors mean surely varies with the sophistication of nervous systems (we find this even among humans across time, and humans varying wit how old they are), but the essentials are likely identical.

The problem is getting an exact birth moment and place. People who have had exact birth data of their pets - especially domesticated mammals such as cats and dogs, because they were present at the birth of the litter - have reported not only understandable character patterns but some precise timing of events. (I remember Matthew Quellas tell me that tracked the first breath of each kitten in a litter, noted that the one that was the clear runt and not strong was born as Saturn crossed an angle, and I think it died a few days later when a quotidian angle rotated to an exact malefic contact.)

[billy77]

That's tragic about the kitten. Amazing stuff.

[Mike V]

I recently adopted (or was adopted by) a feral cat in a colony I was caring for over the past few months. I of course have no idea exactly when she was born; however, I moved into this apartment last year, and in mid-August 2023, I starting seeing her and her sister around the apartment as very young kittens, probably about 8-12 weeks old based on their sizes. I have camera phone footage of it to refer to.
I'm going with a tentative birth date of May 30, 2023 (at noon, for lack of a better time). This would give her a Taurus Sun, which I definitely believe is accurate: she is exceptionally sweet, affectionate, and conscientious for a street cat who currently still fears all humans except me. It would also give her a Virgo Moon. I have no idea what that in itself would mean for a feline, but it would give us the same Moon sign!
Leo Moon would also be reasonable for her personality. I'm not impressed by the idea of Cancer, Libra, or Scorpio Moon for her.

The idea of a Gemini Sun is very tempting - she and her sister were basically inseparable for the entire time I knew them (until they got older and her sister started hunting, and she started hanging out on my porch waiting for me); she's basically my shadow now. However, I think she's just not quite that young. So, Taurus it is.

[Jim Eshelman]

Though cats can be born at any time of day or night, I think the vast majority are born at night and in the early hours of the morning. I think if you estimate sunrise you're likely to be closer.

Or, you could just pick the time of Marion's last SSR [totally logical, right?], same day, 11:11 AM with Mercury on MC. That puts Moon within 2° of yours. <vbg>

[Mike V]

That is a very logical and compelling argument!