Veronica 2023 SSR

[Veronica]

Wow Steve, That's pretty right on, and it always does initially feel like a misfortune when I realize what an outsider I seem to be. I do try though to let my authentic self do the work asked of me and in most if not all employment be professional enough to do my job and human enough at appropriate times to let my coworkers see that I'm not really that much different from them after all and I also learn to see that they too are like me in ways my own blinders couldnt see. I actually dont see that aspect as bad, but as a great opportunity to build bridges and forge relationships that under normal patterns of behavior would never have a chance. I have always felt that my heartfelt overflowing appeals to the world to help out where I can best be of service and the jobs that opened to me after such outpouring of my innerselfs needs were jobs of a higher service then the low wages.

[SteveS]

I hear you V. It seemed to me you were being treated unfairly in an “uncongenial” way many times by your coworkers and that is why I pointed out that direct midpoint as an important part of your Natal with your life experiences.

When I was learning about direct midpoints, I noted I had a MO/SA = ME (0,27) and went to the COSI book to read about its tones:

The inclination to ponder or reflect…

This was a WOW moment for me because I knew it to be so true for my life, but never did I dream there was a mathematical/astronomical/astrological agent that programed my mind in a "pondering/reflecting" mold. I always thought I was different and weird from others around me, but when I learned there was a natural law reason I was different in this “pondering/reflecting” manner, I realized it was actually an asset for my life objectives. I often ponder ( ) what the world would be like if all earthlings were taught at one point in their life the natural laws of good systems of astrology.

[Veronica]

To be honest Steve, it is most likely that I am the one treating others congenitally. Instead of being open and accepting of the miariad variety of expression life has I habitually seek to define, judge, pidgeon hole and stereotype before I have truly experienced.
That is an instinctual subconscious event, an immediate response to unknown data that life itself does, an inner need to sort data into likes and dislikes, familiar and unfamiliar.
I struggle and fight with that subconscious event because I have learned that despite my first reaction to label or characterize something as such and such, most of these responses are culturally reinforced limited biases that evolved with our sences and are factually wrong.
My sister drove home this idea to me and my abused of this when one day I was going on about my mother in law. She stopped me after the 4th or 5th "mother in law" and quietly said "Her name is ...... , stop calling her your mother in law and call her her name, you are not seeing her as the individual she is"
When I start a new job, when I go to a Meeting of a club, when I am in a group for the first time I make it a point to approach each person with warm eye to eye contact and say " Hi I'm Veronica, what's your name....I'm terrible with names please forgive me if I forget and have to ask again, I'm trying to learn who everyone is and it's hard for me"
Most people are so relieved and say omg me too, I'm such and such and what's your name again?Vanessa, Victoria oh Veronica I will try and remember " The ones who learn my name are people who are trying break bad habits of generalization and dehumanizing and expand their realms of possibilities and opportunities. The ones who ignore me and avoid me, and dont learn my name are the ones I feel dehumanize me and are stuck in outdated patterns of behavior that say red is simply red, I may have a lot of red but its blended with blues and yellows too but they cant see that because of their own filtering capabilities.

I always thought Steve that you are one of the great ponderers of our time simply because you are a brilliant Virgo, you remind me of my beloved sister so much sometimes with your deep penetrating questions and keen understanding of the comings and goings of daily life. It's cool to see you have this midpoint that really speaks truth to the depth of your musings and adventures involving intricate and complex ideas.

[SteveS]

…it is most likely that I am the one treating others congenitally.

Exactly V!!! That’s the way I understand it. But then you run into uncongenially from others. IMO, I think it’s that direct midpoint in your natal which presents this experience “from others” for your life, bummer.
V wrote:

I always thought Steve that you are one of the great ponderers of our time simply because you are a brilliant Virgo, you remind me of my beloved sister so much sometimes with your deep penetrating questions and keen understanding of the comings and goings of daily life. It's cool to see you have this midpoint that really speaks truth to the depth of your musings and adventures involving intricate and complex ideas.

Thanks V, I love to ponder things . Many times I will ponder before going to sleep and wake-up with a new fresh slant on things. Maybe it’s a form of meditation?

[Veronica]

…it is most likely that I am the one treating others congenitally.

Exactly V!!! That’s the way I understand it. But then you run into uncongenially from others. IMO, I think it’s that direct midpoint in your natal which presents this experience “from others” for your life, bummer.
V wrote:

I always thought Steve that you are one of the great ponderers of our time simply because you are a brilliant Virgo, you remind me of my beloved sister so much sometimes with your deep penetrating questions and keen understanding of the comings and goings of daily life. It's cool to see you have this midpoint that really speaks truth to the depth of your musings and adventures involving intricate and complex ideas.

Thanks V, I love to ponder things . Many times I will ponder before going to sleep and wake-up with a new fresh slant on things. Maybe it’s a form of meditation?

I have quiet a pile up of aspects and midpoint around my Mars which makes it hard for me to discern the details Steve, but I truly dont feel that I have anything to be bummed about it. If anything it makes me love more. I think it's also where I can come off with the "do and say what you will about me, but mess with my loved ones and I will unleash the hounds of hell, and they are very hungry "
I had a dream over the summer of a giant space worm wiggling through space looking for a drop of water to quench his thirst, and I rose up into space and captured him in a net and set him off on a course far far away but he eventually came back again and this time instead of rising up I went within and out and created a giant hologram in space out that scared the worm so that it turned away from our beautiful home forever.
I obviously internalized Dr. Zeus own concept.

My Mars is blessed with all the strength lent to it from so many strong parts of me. I think it maybe the source of a stronger love then even Venus.

[SteveS]

You know yourself much better than me V, I am only seeing things from the outside. Its just that I feel you get miss treated at times and try to understand better with your aspects. I have always admired the way you seem to be able to bounce back from the adversities of life, but was getting a little worried about you with your absence.

There has been cases in my life where I have known someone has miss treated me with deception, but since I got into astrology, I have always been able to isolate the natal aspects which presented that experience in my life, which has really helped me in many different ways.

[Veronica]

I know you were. I'm sorry. I knew you would be. I was worried too, about the people who hate Sidereal Astrology, the gifts of our beloveds, and the lengths they would go to discredit Jim and all of our guides.
It was a tough chart for me last year with Saturn, and boy did I learn alot!
Did I tell you I actually got my hands on Manillius! 300 year old copies in Latin, I spent a great week trying to translate it into my notes, brushing up on the Latin I never knew lol. It was silly of me of course, it's already been done but there was something so richly satisfying about depuzzeling each word and stringing them together into meaning. I came to the conclusion that his poetic style, while eloquent and beautiful, was a poor choice of a text for me to try to understand latin. When I looked into studying Latin, I learned it came from Greek so I thought if I was going to learn an ancient language maybe I should look into greek....which I did but my library didnt have any old Greek books anymore, which I thought criminal and had to scour the library for an ol oxford dictionary which had the greek alphabet!

Sometimes it feels like the Universe knocks me down so it can see who helps me up and who laughs. Obviously it does no such thing, it knows up from down, it's me that didn't. Its others that cant tell up from down a fake friend from a monster in disguise. I'm a monster to many people just by the nature of the synastry in our charts, I cant change the moment I was born I can only make the very with what I have and try to not make a mess, and to clean up after myself. If other peoples charts express lifestyles behaviors and characteristics opposing of mine, no matter how contrary and ugly they feel to me I respect their right to be as long as they respect my similar right to be. I'm not to force you to recycle reuse and reduce but I will avoid your presence for the greater good of all, and not seek you out to exterminate you. I tell my mother everyday that I love everyone and everything for their contribution to my total existence, and I give thanks to all and deep gratitude for their part. I also tell mommy go ahead and destroy those who secretly plot against me, who wish me harm and misfortune but that I dont need to hear about it because in my world everyone really really loves me deep down and I would cry a million rivers if I ever heard that someone really deep down wanted to hurt me, superficial hate I could bear, but I asked her anyways.

[SteveS]

I'm a monster to many people just by the nature of the synastry in our charts, I cant change the moment I was born I can only make the very with what I have and try to not make a mess, and to clean up after myself.

Or, synastry to you may be a monster to you. Sometimes I have seen situations like that with certain relationships in my life. I just worked the best I could to seperate myself from em, including certain family members. Somethings just can't be fixed, it was not meant to be.

[Veronica]

OMG! Talk about the monster of all monsters of a synastry for me happened just this past fall!

Omg I have never been so scared in all my life!!!
I had been sitting outside listening to the wild things howl to the moon, when I heard the DEEEEEEPEST, WEEEETTEST, HUNNNNGRIEST panting rushing up from behind me and beside me on my open porch!!!
OMG I was so scared I flew into the house!! My dog is huge and has a deep deep pant, but the sound of this creature was liters more!! Whew I feel like I was just about to become lynch for the pack!! Now that was a moment!

[SteveS]

My wife was indirectly involved with a monster situation between a care giver daughter to her mother. You can see the monster situation in their synastry charts. My wife asked me what would be the best thing that can be done for them. I told her to tell the other daughter to separate em, which has been done. Things are much better now.

[Veronica]

My wife was indirectly involved with a monster situation between a care giver daughter to her mother. You can see the monster situation in their synastry charts. My wife asked me what would be the best thing that can be done for them. I told her to tell the other daughter to separate em, which has been done. Things are much better now.

Yikes, sounds messy, uncomfortable and mean...shudder.....yup MYOB ,stay in your own lane and focus on what are your own personal responsibilities.

[SteveS]

Indeed V! The situation got so "messy" my wife has withdrawn herself from the scene.