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Solar Eclipses and Earthquakes

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To test whether there is unusual correlation between the world's "worst of the worst" earthquakes and the immediately prior solar eclipse, I will test my SMA earthquake catalogue (36 quakes).

We already know that Sidereal solar and lunar ingresses correspond positively with these quakes. For the same set of earthquakes, among all relevant solar and lunar ingresses and daily timers, Saturn is the most commonly angular (at a statistically significant level) with Uranus and Mars in distant second place. Saturn also has the most Moon aspects. In solar ingresses we have the unusual characteristic of Mercury being most common, then Mars and Saturn tied in tight second place, and Pluto more distant. Lunar ingresses have Saturn and Mars most angular. Daily timers have Saturn and Uranus most angular (at a statistically significant level). - One might think eclipses, if correlated with earthquakes in an astrological way, would have similar patterns.

I have not found syzygy charts, including eclipse charts, nearly as relevant (specifically: not as reliably relevant) for mundane events. This purely natural phenomenon (quakes) is a good test, though. When syzygy charts have seemed relevant, casual observation has suggested that this is most often by luminary aspects (which are not geographically distinctive) and rarely by local angularities. As I check each eclipse (the solar eclipse most recently prior to the event), I will watch for the following:
  1. Close luminary aspects.
  2. Angularities and, in general, the same things we check in ingresses.
  3. Whether the eclipse path was over or near the quake zone.
  4. Anything else that jumps out, at least as an "interesting note."
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1481: Rhodes, Greece quake
Mars sets 3°24', Neptune widely foreground.
Not near eclipse path.
Moderately impressive.

1693: Sicily quake (37N18 15E06)
Partial solar eclipse was five days earlier.
Eclipse partile sextile Neptune (which squares Saturn 0°27')
Eclipse exactly on EP-a for epicenter. Mars moderately rising (4°+).
Not near eclipse path.
Somewhat impressive (the timing was quite close, which is rare).

1703: Genroku quake (35N41 139E41.5)
Eclipse grand trine with Pluto and Saturn (Sun-Saturn 0°00') is severe worldwide.
Nothing angular. Not near the eclipse path.
Somewhat impressive (aspects winning in absence of angularity).

1755: Lisbon quake
Eclipse op Uranus (0°01'), sq Pluto (0°13').
Nothing angular.
Can't calculate eclipse path (12th house eclipse seems not to be near it).
Impressive. (Aspects are impressive and may prevail in absence of angularities.)

1857: Ft. Tejon quake
Eclipse opposite Jupiter (2°18').
Pluto rising -0°20', Uranus rising +0°31'.
Not near eclipse path.
Very impressive.

1863: Manila quake
Eclipse trine Saturn (2°39').
Nothing angular.
Not near eclipse path.
Not impressive.

1902: Guatemala quake (Guatemala City)
Quake sextile Pluto (1°01'), conjunct Mars (1°21' mundo).
Jupiter on MC (1°59').
Not near the eclipse path.
Not impressive (worse than impressive).

1906: San Francisco quake
Eclipse 1°26' conjunct Saturn, 2°+ to Mercury-Venus
Not close enough to IC to be interesting astrologically, but perhaps geophysically.
Jupiter on WP-a 0°29'
Nowhere near eclipse path.
The Saturn conjunct makes it somewhat impressive but exactly angular Jupiter contradicts.

1906: Messina, Italy quake
Eclipse sextile Pluto (2°33').
Neptune 5 1/2° above horizon.
Not near eclipse path.
Not impressive.

1915: Avezzano, Italy quake
Eclipse sextile Saturn 1°04'.
Near the eclipse path (50-75% total range).
Barely impressive (mostly because it was near the eclipse path).

1923: Great Kanto quake (Tokyo)
Jupiter rising closely (with Venus, Mars, and Neptune more distantly foreground).
Not near eclipse path.
Not impressive (wors than unimpressive).

NOTE: The September 1 quake occurred in "eclipse season" with a new total solar eclipse September 10. That may have represented rising tides and, in fact, the 9/10 quaker would occur just minutes after sunrise in Tokyo. This may be a legitimate gravitational factor as those harmonics aligned, but (1) we can't change the rules in the middle and (2) it wouldn't have been an astrological effect.

1927: Xining quake (36N38 101E46)
Eclipse opposite Pluto 2°26'
Jupiter-Neptune opposed along meridian. Saturn on EP-a (> 2°).
Not on path.
Not impressed.

1932: Jalisco quake (19N30 104W15)
No luminary aspects, no angularities, not near eclipse path.
Not impressive (nothing to work with).

1933: Long Beach quake (33N37 118W11)
Eclipse opposite Neptune (3°28').
Pluto setting (6°02').
Not near path.
Not impressive (everything is too wide).

1939: Erzincan quake (39N44 39E29)
Puto rising (4°08'). Eclipse is near IC, perhaps feeding tidal strength, though too wide to take their mundane square to Pluto seriously.
Not near eclipse path.
Somewhat impressive (orbs wider than ideal).

1949: Olympia quake (47N06 122W42)
No luminary aspects or angularities.
Not on eclipse path.
Not impressive at all (nothing to work with).

1952: Tehachapi, CA quake
Mercury on Nadir 22'.
Not impressed.

1952: Kamchatka quake (50N40 156E08)
Eclipse sq Mars (1°41').
Uranus Asc (6°10').
Not near eclipse path.
Barely interesting (allowing the luminary aspect may prevail absent strong angularity).

1960: Agadir, Morocco quake
Eclipse within 1° of MC for quake site. (Saturn widely rising.)
Near the path of totality (all of Morocco was close to total).
Very impressive.

1960: Great Chilean quake (38S14 73W03)
Mars rising closely (Uranus and Neptune moderately foreground).
Eclipse mundanely square Jupiter (2°38').
Not near the eclipse path.
Moderately impressive.

1962: Buin Zahra quake (32N38 49E52)
Eclipse op Saturn 0°16', sq Neptune 0°05', co Mercury 2°07'.
Nothing angular - presume aspects prevail, therefore.
Not near eclipse path.
Very impressive.

1964: Great Alaskan quake (60N54 147W20)
Jupiter rising (0°46'). Venus-Saturn several degrees above Asc. Uranus setting 3°00' (op Ve-Sa).
Not near the eclipse path.
Not impressive (mixed at best).

1971: Sylmar quake (34N16 118W25)
Eclipse widely near Zenith. Mercury on MC ecliptically conjunct Pluto.
The eclipse path was nowhere near, though (all far south of the equator).
Mostly not impressed, though some details start to catch attention.

1976: Tangshan, China quake
Eclipse conjunct Jupiter 1°09'
Saturn (2°25'), Mars (3°49'), and Venus (3°57') angular (Venus-Saturn sq 1°32'), Ma/Sa on MC 0°42')
Eclipse path over half of China.
Quite impressive (except for the Jupiter).

1985: Mexico City quake (18N21 102W23)
Mars-Uranus quite widely angular (6-7° off meridian).
Not in the eclipse path.
Not impressive.

1989: Loma Prieta quake (37N02 121W53)
Eclipse trine Saturn (0°21'), Neptune (1°59'); sextile Jupiter (2°01').
Venus on WP-a (0°51').
Not near eclipse path.
Not impressive (the most impressive features are weaker than contrary features).

1994: Northridge quake (34N13 118W32)
Eclipse trine Saturn (2°20').
No angularities.
Not near eclipse path.
Not impressed.

2004: Sumatra-Andaman quake (3N19 95E51)
All angularities were wide. Throughout areas affected by the devastating tsunami were mostly Venus and Uranus lines (Pluto not being close, mostly along eastern-facing coasts in Indonesia and through Philippines).
Eclipse path nowhere close.
Shockingly unimpressive for so impactful an event. 

2008: Sichuan quake (31N01 103E22)
Eclipse exactly conjunct Mercury, 4° from Neptune.
Uranus sets 2°18', Mars moderately-to-widely foreground.
Not near eclipse path.
Impressive.

2010: Haiti quake (18N28 72W32)
Eclipse trine Uranus (2°57').
Four planets very widely foreground (2 benefics, 2 malefics).
Not near eclipse path.
Barely impressive (perhaps unimpressive).

NOTE: Quake occurred two days before a new solar eclipse in what we might call "eclipse season." It was likely during a "rising tidal forces" period geophysically. The pending eclipse can't be credited with the quake, though, mostly because we'd have to change the rules for this one quake and partly because it's only distinction are Jupiter and Neptune on an angle and the eclipse 49' from conjunct Venus.

2011: Tohoku quake (38N19 142E22)
Saturn on IC 2°29' (3°10' from square eclipse). Mars sq MC 0°58.
Not on path.
Impressed.

2011: Christchurch quake (43S35 172E41)
Mars on Dsc 1°44'.
Not near eclipse path.
Impressive.

2015: Nepal quake (28N14 84E44)
Jupiter Asc (1°57'), Venus MC 2°36').
Not near eclipse path.
Very bad chart.

2016: Amatrice quake (42N43 13E10)
Eclipse op Jupiter 0°43', sq Saturn 2°45', sx Pluto 1°51'.
Not near eclipse path.
Not impressive (mixed at best).

2018: Sulawesi quake (0S11 119E50)
Mars rising (2°53'), Uranus IC (0°33'), Mars-Uranus mundane square wide (3°26')
Not near eclipse path.
Impressed (but not by the traditional rules).
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One thing so obvious that it doesn't need counting: Almost none of these events fell in (or even near) the path of totality. That teaching flatly, decisively fails regarding earthquakes. The few (like Agadir) that were squarely marked are coincidence (random quirks).

Let's tally how well these eclipses did in terms of anticipating that quakes. I did not define exact meanings of the rating terms (but did all the rating within the same hour or so, with everything fresh in my mind, so there is consistency). Making the language consistent, the counts are:

Very impressive: 4
Impressive: 5
Moderately/somewhat impressive: 5
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Barely impressive: 4
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Unimpressive: 13
Worse than unimpressive: 3
Shockingly unimpressive: 1

As you can see, the results are quite poor. (You can review the "unimpressive" or worse examples above and see if you agree with the assessment.) In the most optimistic reading, this is about 50-50, with 18 examples "barely impressive" or better (pretty low standard) and 17 "unimpressive" or worse. A 50-50 score, at best, is unreliable - I would argue it is worthless - and (given the elasticity in astrology to find things that seem to fit an event), I would argue especially that it shows totally random results. There is no statistical confirmation. In fact, I would read this as a statistical dismissal of the ideas being tested.
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Thanks Jim for this analysis, its impressive. In your opinion what is there any highly reliable methods to determine when a severe quake may occur in a know quake fault zone, astrological or geophysical?
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SteveS wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 7:41 am Thanks Jim for this analysis, its impressive. In your opinion what is there any highly reliable methods to determine when a severe quake may occur in a know quake fault zone, astrological or geophysical?
It's complicated. We certainly know the astrological indications that most often accompany it (through ingresses and their transits and quotidians) but this is only going to happen if the area is geologically ready for a quake. If you want to predict them I think you need to get information from geologists to know when an area is most "ready" for a quake - we can probably then pick the most vulnerable times.

This will require some work. As a bare beginning, I just searched Bing for "map of the areas most vulnerable to earthquakes now" and got this map, among others:
https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.0XTewrjNy ... ImgDetMain
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Jim wrote:
If you want to predict them I think you need to get information from geologists to know when an area is most "ready" for a quake - we can probably then pick the most vulnerable times.
I totally agree Jim! Do you know of any reliable geologists (services) in your area that people track for increased % of quakes. I guess you locals in LA area are so use to tremors that is has just become a normal occurrence in your lives. Impressive Map Jim!
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SteveS wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:00 am I guess you locals in LA area are so use to tremors that is has just become a normal occurrence in your lives.
Look at LA Capsolars for the last hundred years to see how Neptune hovers near the angles through all of California. Neptune, of course, is one of the key earthquake planets, although it has the characteristics that it only shows the anxiety, not so much the quake; i.e., a Neptune quake can be a no-big-deal "shudder" that grabs people's attention for a moment and has them talking about it all morning in chit-chat, or it can be a San Francisco 1906 whopper.
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Jim wrote:
...or it can be a San Francisco 1906 whopper.
I hear you Jim.
If I lived in the LA area I would always use Solar Fire animated feature to scan for CapQ charts like the one for the 1906 San Fran quake. It blew my mind when you taught me enough to do research with SMA charts. For those who have never seen the CapQ chart for San Fran quake, here it is: Its mind blowing when you realize the geometry of this CapQ progressed from the San Fran Master Chart of the year--its Capsolar.

https://ibb.co/HD2NrTv

I realize even if a Sidereal Mundane Astrologer (SMA) was well versed with your SMA teachings living in San Fran in 1906, which would have been impossible since Bradley had not introduced his SVP to the world, would not have any idea a monster earthquake was to hit San Fran on April 18 1906, but would have been forewarned maybe to take extra precaution for maybe some kind of Moon-Mars-Pluto activity. Anyway, If I lived on the West Coast, I would take the animated option in Solar Fire and always calculate at least the CapQs & CanQs for where I lived to see if a nasty “outstanding incident” Q chart appeared where I resided. So much astrological knowledge associated with your SMA teachings Jim.
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