The “mother” of all First Time Trade Futures Chart, the cash S&P 500 Index.

[SteveS]

According to Susan Abbott Gidel’s book: “Trading in Sync with Commodities,” this timed First Time Trade Chart of March 4 1957, 10:00 AM, New York, NY responds the best to her astrological analysis. I tested this chart with its 2020 SSR and found it to respond outstandingly to its very malefic Covid Panic angular symbolism with partile aspects. I wrote about it at the following link:

https://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php? ... 626#p60626

Rings, this post is for you and your market mind. Below is an “outstanding incident” July 26 SLR for this First Time Trade S&P 500 Chart. It is a very rare Mars-Saturn Paran with Natal Venus (Money Relationships) partile 90 SLR Mars & SLR ASC. SLR Mercury partile cnj Natal Pluto for some possible trade (Mercury) drama (Pluto). S&P 500 appears to be in a runaway bull mold. If market is showing signs of blow-off top going into this SLR a friend & I are going to consider some Put Options.

[SteveS]

Jim writes about Uranus-Neptune symbolism for mundane astrological purposes:

Uranus-Neptune aspects only occur at long intervals. When they do occur, they bring high impact events. Uranus is inherently explosive and rupturing; Neptune stirs extreme mass reaction. Together, they overflow the bounds of conventional thinking and expectations. In the context of earthquakes, I have termed this the “shake, rattle, and roll” aspect. This phrase also is not a bad description of its affects in other areas.

If this “other area” is the S&P 500 market----
The S&P 500 2024 SSR has its Natal Class 1 90 Uranus-Neptune angular, and SSR ERIS 6 degree angular (MC). This could be symbolizing a “shake, rattle, and roll” chaotic price decline with its “outstanding incident” July 26 SLR malefic Mars-Saturn Paran. If so, we will discuss later for possible learning purposes.

[SteveS]

Super benefic major Life Development Solar Arcs happening now with this S&P 500 First Time Trade Chart:
d MC 22,41 PI
r Moon 22,19 PI
d Jupiter 10,35 Scorpio
r Asc 10,14 Tau
And, we are witnessing the greatest Bull Market in the entire history for this S&P 500 market. It will be very interesting for me to see if the Mars-Saturn July 26 SLR Paran will at the very least time a correction in this raging Bull Market.

[SteveS]

If this S&P 500 First Time Trade Chart-- is a true Radical Chart, the July 26 2024 “outstanding incident” Mars-Saturn Paran SLR (Sidereal Lunar Return) for this S&P 500 possible true Radical, sometime within its time frame, should show strong signals for the largest correction in prices since the Jan 6 2022 Gann Date Top made in the Dow. I have never done any type astrological analysis in the S&P 500, only in the Radical May 17, 1792 NYSE chart and some lately in the Radical Gold Chart. Also, Gann type analysis with the Dow, Gold, and Soybeans markets back in the 70s. I am new to historical research with First Time Trade Charts, but what little work I have done pertaining to “outstanding incident” Sidereal Astrology Return charts are encouraging. I am not saying this Great Bull Market in the S&P 500 will end for many years, only possibilities for a significant short term correction in prices.

The only reason I have started recently doing limited reserarch on First Time Trade Charts with Sidereal Astrology techniques is I finally found someone I can trust who has done outstanding research for finding a few TRUE First Time Trade Charts. It is a very difficult task to hunt down true First Time Trade Radical Charts. Back in the 70s I read with Gann's own course materal words for markets how important First Time Trade Charts were, but with no explanations, and I had never studied anything about astrology when I first took up the study of Gann's market material. Then in the late 80s when I learned the outstanding truths about Sidereal Astrology Return Charts, I could not find anyone with well researched First Time Trade Charts to research with only "outstanding incident" Sidereal Astrology Return charts. Anyway, TIME will soon tell if the "outstanding incident" July 26 SLR S&P 500 chart will time strong signals for a significant short term correction in prices. This will be a good test for this possible true Radical Chart.

[SteveS]

Communicated e-mail with Susan yesterday and she said:

Given the inaccuracies I see from the CFTC, the exchanges and other astrologers, I am absolutely committed to only following markets where I can find documentation that supports the time and date. The “birth” time is essential, as any astrologer will tell you. I hope you found in my book, too, the time I use for the DJIA as well as gold and soybeans. I’m rock solid on gold and beans. The DJIA is another educated guess, but my rationale I describe at the end of the S&P 500 chapter makes sense to me. Even moreso, I think the DJIA chart might have been “elected.” I find it odd to otherwise explain why anyone would start calculating an index on a Tuesday. Not a Monday or Friday. Not the first or last trading day of the month. A Tuesday, when the Moon was perfectly in position to make a beautiful astrological formation.

I have done no Sidereal work with her purposed DJIA Chart. I will look at later. May 26, 1896; 3:00 PM; NY,NY

[SteveS]

My weekly technical indicators for the S&P 500 are reflecting the most overbought market I can recall ever seeing in a very long time (years). It’s too complicated to explain. The S&P 500 is long overdue for at least a sizeable market correction. I find this most interesting with the “outstanding incident” Mars-Saturn July 26 SLR Paran for the First Time Trade Chart . But remember I am still in testing mode with Sidereal Astrology return techniques for First Time Trade Charts with criteria for “outstanding incidents.” IF the “outstanding incident” Mars-Saturn July 26 SLR Paran actually manifests, expect to see a wild and crazy downward move in the S&P.

[SteveS]

July 8:

My weekly technical indicators for the S&P 500 are reflecting the most overbought market I can recall ever seeing in a very long time (years).

I will be observing if this is a possible true Radical Chart for the S&P 500 with the July 26 SLR “outstanding incident” Mars-Saturn Paran, with possible much lower prices at some point during its time frame.

Daily Price Barchart for the S&P 500.

https://www.barchart.com/futures/quotes ... tive-chart

It appears some type of correction in prices began on July 16.

[SteveS]

The S&P 500 was down a whopping 128 points yesterday!!! If this is an early warning signal of what’s to come with the S&P’s “outstanding incident” Mars-Saturn Paran July 26 SLR---then most likely we will see at least a 10% correction. Measured from the July 16 top in the S&P 500 this would compute to app a 570 point correction. If this happens---for sure we will see the markets shift to a negative psychological Mars-Saturn impact within the TIME frame of the July 26 SLR---may set-up a good buying opportunity. But IMHO, when we saw all the mega billionaires selling their stocks last Spring---this was the first Red Flag that they saw trouble for the markets on the horizon. The verdict is still out if this chart is a true Radical Chart for applied Sidereal Astrology techniques. Let's see what the Mars-Saturn Paran July 26 SLR brings to the psychological being of the S&P 500?

[Jim Eshelman]

Though Monday was a Gann date, the recent DJIA was July 17. I'm inclined right now to think this is just the month of malefic lunar ingresses that started right after that - kicked off early by the volatile lunar aspects of the July 17 Cansolar.

But Elon didn't help things LOL!

[SteveS]

I hear you Jim. I am allowing 80% that the financials have put in their summer highs with the partile cnj of Mars-Uranus in mid-July, particularly with the deep overbought technical indicators which happened at the same time, but only future TIME knows for sure. In the past when I see such overbought indicators with my weekly charts an important top is soon forthcoming. Volitility in prices are always associated with significent tops and what better planetary combo with a Mars-Uranus conjunctin for price volitility. Corrections in prices are healthy for an ongoing bull market. And for sure we saw the July Mars-Uranus conjunction falling on the DC Capsolar Asc create a political storm with the Biden situation. Your July mundane forecasts nailed the symbolic happenings.

What did Elon Musk do?

[Jim Eshelman]

What did Elon Musk do?

Two unrelated things.

First, he announced a couple of weeks ago that he's pulling all his businesses out of California and moving them to Texas. This had various rumbles.

Then Tesla, having made a stunning series of bad judgements and announcements, disclosed that their profits had reduced by nearly half (I think it was 45%).

That news came either the same day or the day before Alphabet gave what I personally thought was a good earnings report, but it was far below what investors expected.

That day and the next, the market plunged.

[SteveS]

Interesting, maybe this news will only create a quick correction and the markets will resume their bull trend, thanks.

[Jim Eshelman]

I link it to those events because it was explicitly the NASDAQ and the S&P that took the dramatic, deep dives. (S&P is heavily dependent on the Magnificent Seven and two of them were been to fumble badly.) The last few days (after a brief dip below 40K), the DJIA has been climbing back with some strong intraday sweeps and then more modest closing gains (that look to me like strong gains with people harvesting their money in the afternoon).

[SteveS]

Makes sense Jim.

[SteveS]

Markets are getting clobbered. Before this “outstanding incident” Mars-Saturn July 26 SLR in the S&P 500 is finished, we may be confirming a complete psychological shift in the financial markets from a Bull to a Bear. Time only knows for sure. Let’s finish the time frame for this July 26 SLR before offering a verdict.

[Jim Eshelman]

Yesterday, interday, we recrossed 41,000 in the Dow before rolling back down hill a bit (on a bit loss day). Then today (weaker jobs reports?) has seen nearly an 800-point drop already.

So yeah, it's a bad week. I anticipated that generally from the Capsolar and it might get worse for another week after Moon enters Cancer.

BTW, I've been wondering what, if anything, might undercut Harris' significant momentum and Trump's crumpling. A collapse of the market could do that.

But despite two really bad days, we're still up for the month, up for the 6-month and year, etc.

From conventional behavior (non-astrological causes), I'm surprised a bit. It wasn't a terrible jobs report this morning, just weaker. If it's a real sign of the future (a "Sahm threshold"), that would point just enough to a risk of recession that it would push the Fed to hurry up and cut rates - which is ultimately what the investment community wants to see. Usually anything that is somewhat poor for workers is great for the market; so today clearly has something else going on.

[SteveS]

So far I am seeing solid market confirmation this could truly turn out to be an “outstanding incident” Mars-Saturn Paran July 26 SLR for the S&P 500. More time left for this SLR time frame so the final verdict is not in yet. For this July 26 "outstanding incident" SLR Mars-Saturn Paran to prove true--the July 16 Top in the S&P 500 should be the high for the calendar year of 2024.

Barchart of price action since the July 16 top:

https://www.barchart.com/stocks/quotes/ ... tive-chart

[SteveS]

OK, for sure we now have confirmation for this “outstanding incident” Mars-Saturn Paran in the July 26 SLR S&P 500 Chart. Prices are under “destructive” (Mars-Saturn) psychological behavior, with panic type selling pre-opening market hour. The Fed will probably have to call an emergency meeting to lower interest rates to calm the financial markets.

[Jim Eshelman]

They should have done it last time - The Japan market last night had its deepest drop in history. This is rolling around the world and, this time, it started in the U.S.

[Jim Eshelman]

The market opened with the Dow 1,000 points down. My Anlunar forecast nailed this: It's going to be a rough week.

If any real-world thing will tip the balance away from Harris toward Trump, it's this.

[SteveS]

I haven’t got time to explain, but I had a casual business dinner with a person back in July who enlighten me about the ‘carry trade,’ and told me if my astrology pertaining to this thread was going to be right on the timing--- the S&P would unwind with this ‘carry trade,’ and this was when it would become public knowledge. We impressed each other with our causal dinner talk about markets, more so now by the recent market happenings.

The ‘carry trade:’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8In5PK1yUAA

He told me he had sources that told him between 20-40 trillion $ were involved in this carry trade with lots of holdings in the 7 Meta stocks listed on the S&P. JP Morgan says only 50% of this ‘carry trade’ has been liquidated, who knows for sure. I know this for a fact: Between Friday Aug 2 and Monday morning Aug 5, the VIX which measures volatility in the S&P 500 went to 65. This has only happened 3 other times in the history of the S&P 500:

1: Black Monday 1987
2: the .com bubble March 10 2000
3: the “Great Recession” with collapsing market prices in autumn of 2008.

But, the markets have always come back with new highs after deep corrections and they will continue to do so as long as there is a Wall Street!

The only thing that has me worried about continuing declining market prices is what I have tracked the billionaires did last Spring---liquidated almost 100% of their stock holdings. I have the details but too much posting to go into these details, but the billionaires (smart money) see market problems on the horizon for the near future with a couple saying the only way they would be interested in rebuying what they sold would be a 40-50% correction in the market. The market may be heading head-long into the Saturn-Neptune conjunction in 2025, I don’t really know. If there is going to be continued unwinding of the ‘carry trade’, I may see the time frame for the S&P 500 CHART, which I will post later. There are actually so many trillions of dollars floating around this post Covid economy---there is no telling what is going to happen, but I can see a deep market correction without another Great Recession happening, or new market highs soon. We are living in very strange economic times and IMO, the Fed experts are clueless for what to do with interest rates. All my adult life I get hooked-up with market people who seem to know things that are very important, and I am nobody-- so why do I get hooked-up with these market people???

I just have a keen interest in what makes markets tick unexpectedly with volatile price swings to the downside---astrologically. Anyway….

[Veronica]

Steve wrote
"All my adult life I get hooked-up with market people who seem to know things that are very important, and I am nobody-- so why do I get hooked-up with these market people???"

You know darn well that you are a far cry from a nobody.

Why? Your a Virgo. Spoke signs love the hustle and bustle of a marketplace, some love the hustle more, some love the bustle more and who doesnt like a good sale

[SteveS]

I hear you V. We each develop our own niches for life. I truly love the challenge of trying to figure out astrologically the important timing moves in a marketplace. But what is baffling to my mind is how at certain times in my life certain market strangers come into my life without me looking for em with important information for me to see/digest. Life to me is truly a mystery and astrology is so much a part of that mystery. Our lives are choreographed with methods of our personal astrology.

[Jim Eshelman]

Steve, not only were you born with that powerfully rising Jupiter in Libra, you also (for I don't know how many years) have had progressed Jupiter exactly conjunct your Moon - the sort of aspect that becomes so much the fabric we're wrapped in that we forget to notice it most of the time.

OK, I just looked: As you came out of your progressed Sun-Jupiter conjunction in 2019-2020, Jupiter has been within 1° of natal Moon, exact to the minute about the start of this year and lasting through 2028.

That's only a few years. But you've always had the rising Jupiter.

Besides, you're curious. Curiosity gets fed.

[SteveS]

Jim wrote:

Besides, you're curious. Curiosity gets fed.

So true Jim! I am like a child playing in a sandbox of Sidereal Astrology.

[SteveS]

For the past few months I have witness several large investors taking their money out of the Stock Market into cash. This has somewhat perplexed me as to WHY? Last July I met a market person who explained to me why/how there has been a huge speculative bubble formed in the Stock Market since Covid, it’s complicated to put into words. Do I believe him? I don’t really know for sure, I am way over the hill now to understand certain things happening in this world. But what has been explained to me now allows me to understand WHY most of the Billionaires got out of the market months ago. I now think I explicitly understand WHY Warren Buffet is sitting on 275 billion in cash and out of the market. I have a couple of Warren Buffet links if anyone is interested which offers sound judgement why Buffet thinks a speculative bubble is forming in the market. But, it doesn’t matter what I think I know if I can’t back it-up and be correct in timing with certain key Sidereal Astrology charts.

I can make a strong analytical case using Firebrace methodology comparing the 2024 Capsolar Chart to Bradley’s USA Chart that there is strong symbolism for a huge speculative bubble in the Stock Market, if so, this means this bubble must pop before the end of the 2024 Capsolar year.

I have been having great experimental success the last few months with “outstanding incident” SLRs with First Time Trade Charts for precise timing for certain dramatic market moves. If this possible market bubble is going to pop, I see an upcoming “outstanding incident” SLR for this S&P chart which could time the popping of this possible market bubble. I will discuss later. But remember---I am not predicting---I am experimenting with Sidereal Astrology with certain possible market radical charts. We learn by experimenting.

[SteveS]

OK, only if this S&P chart is a true radical chart, as another test experiment I want to see if the Sept 19 SLR “outstanding incident” partile 180 of Venus-Eris, with both tight angular to the horizon in mundo, manifest chaotic (Eris) market conditions with all the money relationships (Venus) in the S&P 500. Transiting Saturn stationed conjunct S&P Sun during the time period for this Sept 19 SLR.