Eris in my 2024 SLRs

[Mike V]

This is the sister post to my huge thread on 2024 Solunar analyses.

Four SLRS/Demi-SLRs (one of which was a relocated chart) had Eris foreground in them. Here are some themes I noted for each, along with only the Eris-related chart factors.

r. Eris on MC 3°53’
t. Eris on MC 8°37’
r. Venus sq r. Eris 0°24' M
t. Sun sq r. Eris 2°15'
r. Mercury sq r. Eris 2°43'

Wild goose chases (much effort and emotional investment that turned out to be a waste).
The full spectrum of friendship, and offering a lot of myself, but I felt mostly ambivalent about it.
Surprises that I could’ve seen coming and prevented, but didn’t. (This is the first theme I ever noticed about Eris, and perhaps the most consistent.)

In general, “chaos” is reasonable, but is not the first word that comes to mind for me. Neptune was not involved in this chart, but similar themes were clear.

t. Eris MC -1°11’
r. Eris MC +4°54’
t. Mercury co r. Eris 0°20’ M
t. Mercury co t. Eris 0°24’
t. Pluto sq r. Eris 1°04’ M

Feeling secure and directed. (I don’t really think this is an Eris thing, but the only other elements in the chart are Venus and Pluto, which also don’t fit.)
Spending a ton of money. (I doubt this is related.)
Frustration with friends for losses in competitive games - they made bad calls, which, to memory, boiled down to “failing to consider the big picture, and in hindsight they were obviously poor decisions.” (Perhaps this is miscommunication? Failure to communicate the right details?)
Oversleeping. (I have noted this quite a lot previously for Eris, especially in NLRs, for whatever that is worth.) In this case, I overslept not 1 but two meetings in the same day… but managed to make it work.
Surgical procedure (vasectomy) that ended up being unexpectedly painful; almost fainting after, and being given smelling salts, which took me completely by surprise and were the most absolutely F’ing vile thing I have ever smelled in my life.
Such things could’ve been anticipated, but weren’t.
I also see the almost-fainting spell as “losing control of the physiological basis of my mental state.” Emotionally, I was fine; my body was just insistent that I was on the verge of losing consciousness; tunnel vision crept in, and reality got very fuzzy.
Expected things that did not end up coming to pass (an important meeting was postponed since the other party was sick). This strikes me less as a "surprise" and more as the inverse of "unexpected but foreseeable events turning my plan upside down."
“Events that turn out later to be decisive and critical, but at the time it’s not clear.” (Sorry, this one’s personal; I relate it to Pluto-Eris.)

t. Eris IC +9°20’
t. Venus co r. Eris 0°40’ M
Unexpectedly-rekindled connections with family members; they came across strongly and were insistent. This, to me, stands out as overwhelmingly Venus-Eris; there’s nothing else in the chart (like Pluto) to relate it to. (Natal Uranus is in there, but not aspected; I don’t see it as related.)

r. Eris EP 2°17’
t. Eris As -9°42’
t. Eris sq r. Mercury 0°08’ M
t. Mercury co t. Eris 0°37’ M
t. Eris co r. Eris 0°54’ M
r. Mercury sq r. Eris 1°02’ M
t. Mercury co r. Eris 1°30’ M
t. Mars co r. Eris 2°20’

Unfortunately, this chart is already complex, and there’s a bunch of aspects here between natal and transiting Eris and Mercury, and both Mercury angularities are over 9°. The following things stuck out at me:
Huge focus, borderline obsession, with gematria (“numerology”) for a time. I was searching for a magical name to choose for a certain context. Notably, when working on this, I felt like there was an infinite space of possibilities for phrases to choose from, and it felt almost impossible to prefer one over the others. That seems extremely on-brand for Mercury-Eris.
Strong focus on spiritual contemplation.
Surprisingly positive talk with my mother, whom I have a very tense relationship and very rough history with.
Figuring out that Meridian Longitude calculations used cotangent instead of tangent; much effort to figure out why my math was turning out wrong despite everything looking correct.
My cat unexpectedly got out, and it was total chaos (there it is!) for 15 minutes while her former friends (the neighborhood cats) chased her around and tried to mount her. It was a disaster until she came back on her own.
First major Time Matters release, which led to a brief period with an overwhelming number of bugs.

Eris still stands out to me as being something similar to Neptune-Pluto, with some commonalities with Uranus.
Pluto, in that the topics it shows up for are “deep” or “primal,” touching very unconscious notes;
Neptune, in that it seems to blur or even destroy rigid boundaries between “self” (in the most Plutonian sense) and “everything else,” and it shows up for ambivalence, suspense, and “infinite possibilities” rather than clarity, and resisting making a concrete choice;
And Uranus, in the upsetting of boundaries, bringing of surprises, a sense of “stripping away the crap” that is very unlike Neptune, and a seeming resistance to concepts of control or limitation.

[SteveS]

Thanks for sharing Mike.

[Jim Eshelman]

Thanks for this.

Surprises that I could’ve seen coming and prevented, but didn’t. (This is the first theme I ever noticed about Eris, and perhaps the most consistent.)

In general, “chaos” is reasonable, but is not the first word that comes to mind for me.

Interesting line I'll try to keep in mind.

But (knowing I'm speaking to a lunar Virgo), language is important and sometimes slippery. I say this because the words you used sound to me exactly the same as I mean in selecting chaos - but I'm not sure if you meant them the way I'm reading them. My "chaos" I specifically mean a seemingly ungraspable multitude of individual data points that the mind has no sense of how to comprehend or order (except in those other natal Eris manifestations that show the mind having unusual capacity to manage these). One version of this I've often registered is, "All the information was there, I simply didn't see any order in it." Is that what you meant? Or am I projecting that on your words?

BTW, do you mean that you see this "I could have seen it coming and didn't" with natal Eris or transiting Eris?

Oversleeping. (I have noted this quite a lot previously for Eris, especially in NLRs, for whatever that is worth.) In this case, I overslept not 1 but two meetings in the same day… but managed to make it work.

Interesting and almost entertaining. It immediately made me think that Bradley insisted Pluto was related to unusually bountiful sleeping (one of his early arguments for how it fit Aries, which is known to like to lay down and not get out of bed). He then generalized that to other Pluto observations others reported concerning "state of consciousness" diseases like epilepsy and narcolepsy.

Not sure that this memory is relevant here, but it came to mind.

I see you had other "unconsciousness" items to report. Interesting.

I also see the almost-fainting spell as “losing control of the physiological basis of my mental state.” Emotionally, I was fine; my body was just insistent that I was on the verge of losing consciousness; tunnel vision crept in, and reality got very fuzzy.

Very interesting. Oh, and tunnel vision - is that possibly a metaphor for where the mind finds itself in the face of transiting Eris? (Too much unmanageable data; how do I even look at it? Thinking aloud...)

“Events that turn out later to be decisive and critical, but at the time it’s not clear.” (Sorry, this one’s personal; I relate it to Pluto-Eris.)

Noted.

Huge focus, borderline obsession, with gematria (“numerology”) for a time. I was searching for a magical name to choose for a certain context. Notably, when working on this, I felt like there was an infinite space of possibilities for phrases to choose from, and it felt almost impossible to prefer one over the others. That seems extremely on-brand for Mercury-Eris.

Indeed! Awesomely precise. Same with cotangent etc. And of course the bugs.

Eris still stands out to me as being something similar to Neptune-Pluto, with some commonalities with Uranus.

I file this under: Every time we get a new planet, it seems to have some version of "That way-out-there stuff that we have no idea what we're talking about except that it seems way-out-there and disturbing our simpler lives and screwing with everything - until, 20 years later, we figure out which exact kind of Other Side of the Cosmic Tracks it is and go, Oh, that!"

[Mike V]

One version of this I've often registered is, "All the information was there, I simply didn't see any order in it." Is that what you meant? Or am I projecting that on your words?

This is indeed what I meant, and I can get behind "chaos" with that sort of meaning.

BTW, do you mean that you see this "I could have seen it coming and didn't" with natal Eris or transiting Eris?

I'm looking back through my notes, and it seems to apply equally to both natal and transiting Eris.
...However, perhaps there is another layer to this. Some of these events were things I could've seen resulting from my decisions, but didn't - sort of like an unforced error on my part. Other things were not "my mistakes" but just the way that life played out, and in hindsight, it was quite reasonable to expect such things.

Let's see how this breaks down between Lunars. A challenge here is that Eris seems to move so slowly (or perhaps it's an artifact of one or the other's latitude in 1989/now) that both Erises are usually foreground when one is, even if their ecliptical positions are pretty far apart. This is so pronounced that a few charts had transiting Eris mundanely conjunct natal Eris. But maybe we can still see some small patterns in the way this works.

Demi-SLR 1/16/24
r. Eris on MC 3°53’
t. Eris on MC 8°37’

r. Venus sq r. Eris 0°24' M
t. Sun sq r. Eris 2°15'
r. Mercury sq r. Eris 2°43'

The chart is clearly almost all natal Eris.

Taken by surprise that I couldn't renew my car registration online - I forgot about the warning a few months ago and was late, so I also owed a bunch of late fees. This is an unforced error.
Sleeping poorly due to bad sleep hygiene. Self-inflicted.
Intended to nap during the day after sleeping badly, but really noisy neighbors prevented it.
Rushed to a doctor's appointment over worrying but imprecise symptoms; total waste of time. This is all on me.
"The full spectrum of friendship, and offering a lot of myself, but I felt mostly ambivalent about it." My notes on the period talk about ups and downs in the way I felt about friends, and sensitivity to their actions. There's barely any Moon involvement in the DSLR, and no Neptune involvement, though it is featured moderately well in the main SLR. In any case, this is all self-originated.
Notably, there's a new Venus-Eris mundane aspect in this chart. My (relatively small) list of friends with this aspect includes some examples that strikingly fit the bill for "emotionally volatile with loved ones." Of course, I'm a Moon-Neptune person anyway, so such things aren't unusual for my emotional wiring.

3/25/24 - SLR
t. Eris MC -1°11’
r. Eris MC +4°54’

t. Mercury co r. Eris 0°20’ M
t. Mercury co t. Eris 0°24’
t. Pluto sq r. Eris 1°04’ M

This is mixed, but leaning towards transiting Eris.

Frustration with friends for losses in competitive games (arguably a result of miscommunication... though I don't control their choices). This is a personal reaction, and in one sense it resulted from my choice to play ranked games with them, but it is also a result that I did not directly cause.
Oversleeping. Self-originated.
Vasectomy with its unexpected immediate physical and mental impact. This was not a "mistake" I made, or even an error - just a result that surprised me at the time, but not at all in retrospect.
Feeling like I "have a lot on my plate." (There's no Mars or Saturn or anything else that would normally come to mind for this phrasing. I think it's Mercury, and Mercury-Eris.) I didn't originally mention this small tidbit in the post, but I'm thinking about it now... That specific phrase is pretty loaded for me, and find that I don't usually use it unless I am feeling "overwhelmed but barely maintaining control" (as opposed to the Neptunian experience of "overwhelmed and lost in it"). I think that is the feeling that I had during that time period, and it makes sense for Eris... more transiting Eris than natal Eris.
Expected an important meeting, but the other party was unexpectedly sick - clearly transiting Eris.
“Events that turn out later to be decisive and critical, but at the time it’s not clear.” This falls somewhere between my fault and "this was plopped in my lap." A very small choice, hard to call a mistake, had far-reaching consequences. (Transiting Pluto to natal Eris)

4/21/24 - SLR (relocated to Saddle Brook, NJ)
r. Eris IC +9°20’
t. Venus co r. Eris 0°40’ M

There was a typo in my original post (and in my notes) - it's natal Eris that's widely foreground, not transiting Eris. And what's represented in this chart is pretty much only a transit to natal Eris, one that evaporated when I returned home.

"Unexpectedly-rekindled connections with family members; they came across strongly and were insistent." This is primarily about someone with whom I've had a rocky relationship in the past, and who literally came up to me and flatly stated (my close paraphrase), "hi. I know we don't interact much. But I really, really miss you. Can we fix that?"

It was surprising to me, almost Plutonian in its starkness; a Venus transit to natal Pluto would've felt like a great fit for this too. And yet, knowing that this is Eris and not Pluto makes me think about it differently.
Natal Pluto shows up weakly in the SLR for CA, and it's involved in some wide-ish PVP aspects for that home SLR. There's no Venus (or Eris) in that chart.

5/19/24 - SLR
r. Eris EP 2°17’
t. Eris As -9°42’

t. Eris sq r. Mercury 0°08’ M
t. Mercury co t. Eris 0°37’ M
t. Eris co r. Eris 0°54’ M
r. Mercury sq r. Eris 1°02’ M
t. Mercury co r. Eris 1°30’ M
t. Mars co r. Eris 2°20’

This is really mixed. Even though natal Eris is significantly closer to the angle, transiting Eris's aspects are much tighter. (And there's that Eris-Eris mundane conjunction.)

Huge focus on gematria, with no way to force a selection from the huge number of possibilities I was considering. There's no "mistake" here; this just feels like transiting Eris, tied up with one or both Mercuries.
Spiritual contemplation - natal Neptune is moderately foreground (closer than either Eris), and this is something I would potentially file under Neptune... but Mercury tied up with Eris so tightly just makes me think it's helping. This arose naturally in me.
"Surprisingly positive talk with my mother, whom I have a very tense relationship and very rough history with."
"Figuring out that Meridian Longitude calculations used cotangent instead of tangent." Unexpected and not originating from self.
My cat unexpectedly got out. Total carelessness on my part.
First Time Matters release, and all of the bugs. I think this is a mix of my mistakes, and things I couldn't have ever realistically prevented; we can easily file this under "both Erises and both Mercuries."

So, to answer your question... "I could have seen this coming and didn't" seems to correlate pretty strongly with natal Eris when it's the obvious consequences of my choices, but transiting Eris when it's not something that is in my direct control (but I still could've foreseen the possibility of things working out as they did).