The Astrological Ages

[Jim Eshelman]

I'm sure this information is somewhere on this site, but I can't find it; so here it is in a permanent place. - While we have only limited information that the so-called "astrological ages" are astrologically valid, there is great interest in them. Here are the years covered by them, based on Solar Fire calculations. (I'm not going to worry about exact dates. None of us will live through a transition this time around.)

Age of Virgo 13,169-10,879 BCE (2,290 years)
Age of Leo 10,879-8614 BCE (2,265 years)
Age of Cancer 8614-6372 BCE (2,242 years)
Age of Gemini 6372-4153 BCE (2,219 years)
Age of Taurus 4153-1956 BCE (2,197 years)
Age of Aries 1956 BCE to 221 CE (2,176 years)
Age of Pisces 221-2376 CE (2,155 years)
Age of Aquarius 2376-4510 CE (2,134 years)

[Jim Eshelman]

As we have discussed many times on this forum, it's unclear whether the so-called Astrological Ages have any astrological significance. They cover such vast periods of time that it is hard to objectively assess. One possibility, though, is to examine "ages" as archaeologists have labelled them to see if there is any correspondence.

We do hit gold - or at least copper! - with the first step out of the gate. Archaeology identifies the STONE AGE as an almost three and a half million year period that ended sometime between 4000 and 2000 BCE. It was during these two millennia that humans began working with metal.

Before moving to that, though: There was a late phase of the Stone Age called the New Stone Age or Neolithic Age. This began about 12,000 BCE, which was right in the middle of the Virgo Age (13,169 to 10,879 BCE). The symbolism is actually astonishing, since the several new developments that seem to have arisen independently are arguably all Virgo-themed starting with farming - the invention of agriculture and the domestication of animals! and gradually moving from hunter-gatherer to settlement as a start of civilization.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic

This is a threshold event in human history. The move to stationary communities, from hunter-gatherer to farming, redefined the whole course of life on this planet. (In another context, under another model of stages, I've identified this as the primary signal of the transition from the Isis Aeon to the Osiris Aeon.)

This Neolithic period - the tail end of the three and a half million years of the Stone Age - emerged in the Virgo Age and lasted through the Leo and Cancer ages. (In China and Scandinavia, it included the whole Taurus Age, too.)

Speaking in generalizations (which is suitable for the current project), Neolithic communities were "small tribes composed of multiple bands or lineages" with little or no social stratification. "...late Eurasian Neolithic societies formed complex stratified chiefdoms or even states" (was this in the Leo Age? I'll try to find out), and even these were described as "relatively simple and egalitarian." Otherwise, Eurasian states primarily didn't arise until metallurgy was discovered in the Taurus Age.

Domestication of animals is dated at about 8000 BCE - early Cancer Age! (This is a pretty good fit, too, though Leo might have fit as well.) Many Cancer themes arose out of this including a "dramatic increase in social inequality" in many of Earth's cultures (but not all): Owned livestock was wealth, which began to be passed down the generations as inherited wealth. Economic inequality expanded generationally. The Wikipedia article remarks that during this time "the household was probably the center of life - as Cancer a statement as you can find (other than the one about increased social inequality)!

Farming, of course, was a defining development of the Neolithic period, the transition from nomadic to pastoral life. It also dramatically altered human diet (probably including driving the diet in a primarily carbohydrate direction since that's what could be grown and stored with reasonable reliability). - A lot more things changed from this one change than I'm mentioning here. (Virgo historic connection to diet and health-disease is entirely fulfilled.) Stone tools became dramatically more sophisticated and (probably) effective.

The "first pronounced warming" after the last ice age is narrowly defined by archaeologists and geologists as 12,720 to 10,940 BCE. This is quite remarkable since the Virgo Age ended in 10,876 BCE, almost exactly the lower boundary of this period. (The period identified is very nearly the whole of the Virgo Age.) The warming time, then, is consistent with the emergence of farming, animal husbandry, and community building - appropriate for the "warming time." The years mentioned are when humans started moving out of refuge regions (such as northern Africa and other Mediterranean areas) and spreading out across Europe and Asia again. - It seems to me that this also had to be a period of rising oceans. I don't know how these pieces of the puzzle fit together. I do find a measured "abrupt rise in sea level" about 14,500 years ago, or around 12,500 BCE - again, mid-Virgo.

Pottery was a Leo Age (10,879-8614 BCE) invention. (No symbolic match unless we think of this as the Leo-Aquarius age - with Aquarius symbols of bowls, urns, vases, jugs, and the like.) It expanded and spread during Cancer and, by the end of the Cancer Age, was more or less universal. Ceramics and more sophisticated designs (what's called the Linear Pottery Culture) was the Gemini Age. Also during the Gemini Age we start to get numerous (no astrological pun intended) successive regional eras as specific cultures unfolded.

[Jim Eshelman]

Let's return to "finding gold" in this approach - or at least copper!

The first age of metallurgy was the Copper (or Chalcolithic) Age, normally identified as beginning around 5000 BCE and lasting until about a thousand years. (Copper tools are securely dated in Europe around 5500 BCE; ion the Middle East it was probably earlier.) During this time, humans routinely used unalloyed (unblended) copper.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalcolithic

Copper, of course, is associated with Venus and thus with Taurus. It would have been a brilliant piece of symbolism to have the Copper Age overlap the Taurus Age. Instead, we have the Chalcolithic Age (which is actually considered late-stage Neolithic or, to some scholars, the transition from Stone Age to Bronze Age) ended about the time the Taurus Age was beginning (4153 BCE). By the time Taurus began, use of copper was accomplished. (Andean copper artifacts in the New World date from the start of the Taurus Age forwared.)

Transition from the Copper Age to the Bronze Age was between late 5th and late 3rd millennia BCE - in other words, almost precisely the time of the Taurus Age (4153 to 1956 BCE). That's the connection: The Taurus Age was Copper transitioning to Bronze (which is a copper alloy giving a superior metal). - Older scholarship BTW lumped both the copper and bronze periods under the title Bronze Age.

[Jim Eshelman]

The Bronze Age is demarcated currently as from about 3300 to 1200 BCE. This means that the Taurus Age (4153-1956 BCE) was entirely in the copper and bronze periods - stabilization of copper usage, transitioning from there to bronze, and use of bronze. The academic definition of the Bronze Age barely reaches past the end of the Taurus Age. This is the time when people started alloying copper with other metals to make the harder substance bronze, and then to make tools, weapons, and goods from the bronze.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_Age

This was a remarkable stage in human development! So much of civilization as we know it found its roots here. Writing began to appear in many places (beginning in Egypt and Mesopotamia). Urbanization expanded. Centralized governments were founded. Invention flourished. Writing allowed written laws and the expansion of architecture. Record keeping allowed development of actual science including medicine - and astrology! Social structures became more sophisticated (and more stratified). Alas, warfare also became much more sophisticated.

In Egypt, the Bronze Age is thought to have started around 3150 BCE. Note this date - because Fagan has dated the inauguration of the Harakhte Era, the oldest moment astrology was known for sure to be observed, as the heliacal rising of Sirius in 3130 BCE! (This is about the time that Lower and Upper Egypt were united, given usually as c. 3100 BCE.) The early Egyptian dynasties (and rulership by a designated god-king) arose in early Bronze Age culture. "The hallmarks of ancient Egyptian civilization, such as art, architecture, and many aspects of religion took shape during" this exact period. (All Taurus!)

Mesopotamia began making bronze a few centuries earlier (and India just slightly later). China and Greece, about the same time as Egypt (but Japan and Korea MUCH later). New World, a bit later (but still in the Taurus Age).

[Jim Eshelman]

The Iron Age - the time when civilizations began routinely using iron (which required much higher smelting temperatures - more HEAT - and better metallurgic technology) is broadly identified in Europe and the Near East as beginning with something called the Bronze Age Collapse.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Age

The BAC was a "time of widespread societal collapse) between 1200 and 1150 BCE. This was mid Aries Age. (Interestingly, the VP in this time was 19-20° Aries, which today we know as the exaltation degree of the Sun.) It seems to have begun when the Greek economy collapsed with cascading effects across the entire eastern Mediterranean and adjacent areas leading to the so-called Greek Dark Ages. Numerous civilizations collapsed from this rolling regional effect. Egypt and Assyria survived but were weakened, allowing the Phoenicians to gain greater relative power.

This may have been started by the collapse of Troy, at the end of the Trojan War (but I think that's still controversial). Others have speculated that natural disaster or pandemic occurred. In any case, it marked the transition from bronze-making as the technological baseline to ironmaking which, among other things, changed the face of warfare.

The Iron Age, therefore, arose from the ashes of these 12th century BCE events, a little more than a third of the way through the Aries Age. (In Turkey, steelmaking is a bit earlier, probably at least 1800 BCE.)

Agriculture for Virgo. Copper-bronze for Taurus. Iron for Aries. We might be onto something that sufficiently documents these ages have had actual astrological significance.

The Iron Age didn't end because people stopped using iron or from any clear transition point in the archaeological record. It is given a formal (academic) ending date of around 550 BCE. (Dates after this are "considered historical" because of pointedly historic records and writings.) - The Iron Age is specifically defined as a "prehistory of a culture or region during which ferrous metallurgy [ironmaking] was the dominant technology of metalworking." It is marked by "mass production of tools and weapons made from steel."

The Aries Age, of course, includes the entire period of imperial Rome, among many other empires, emergence of ram-based religious artifacts, and all the rest that comes easily to mind.

[Jim Eshelman]

It has always been easiest to link traces of the ages to religious symbolism. This is risky, since the close fit is at least as likely to have been from astronomical observations as from unplanned astrological effects. Nonetheless, it is hard to think of the next transition with mentioning that Christianity arose as a late Aries Age messianic Judaism that, by the third century - when the VP entered Pisces - turned into a fish-symbolized vast religious movement that has been a dominant world force in the Europe and the New World ever since (and ultimately elsewhere as well). The forms it took and practiced, and the nature of its cultural and political actions are remarkably Piscian (or at least I've been conditioned to think so).

That this also has been the era of exploring and resettling the world first by her oceans and then by other means also can't be missed. Again, though, I'm aware that these are thoughts I've filed under "Pisces Age" for decades.

I'd like to find a similar structuring of eras over the last 2,500 years that has similar value to the prehistory archaeological stages.

Nonetheless, I'm ready to say that I'm impressed - that the development of human civilization has indeed spontaneously followed the patterns of the Astrological Ages.

[Jim Eshelman]

One useful summary: https://examples.yourdictionary.com/his ... story.html
A lot of these transitions will be marked probably of major planet aspects instead of precession of the equinox, but I'm curious to explore how both land.

With only a little irony, I suggest that the last two thousand years is too recent to have the kind of perspective we have on earlier times. Not just my perspective, but that of scholars who have labelled it. I'm keenly aware of how the data we value comes from habitual ways of modelling and thinking about the 18 centuries (thus far) of the Pisces Age. Nonetheless, it's what we have - so here goes.

Classical Era (Classical Antiquity): 600 BCE to 476 CE. "It marked the beginning of a philosophical period in world history as well as the first recorded sources of human history. Politically, the Classical era saw the rise – and fall – of most world empires." Multiple empires.

This is the wrap-up of the Aries Age: Empires that grew and flourished in the Aries Age had momentum (as did the idea of empires), but Rome's imperial reach (by most measurements) had ended by 476 CE when the SVP was 26°29' Pisces. (The Persian Empire also had fallen, Greece extended a little further. Only the Byzantine Empire continued into the 15th century, finally crumbling during the Crusades.)

Middle Ages (Medieval or Post-Classical): CE 476-1450. Began with the Dark Ages (post Roman Empire collapse and "loss of recorded history"). Breaks down into Early Middle Ages or Late Antiquity (476-1000), "shows most powers rebuilding after the collapse of the Roman Empire and the beginning of Islam in the Middle East." High Middle Ages (1000-1250), "the height of the Catholic church’s power in the Crusades.'" Late Middle Ages (1250-1450), "the Black Plague, the beginning of European exploration and the invention of the printing press."

This begins the effective Pisces Age. The question is, what motive forces had begun shaping humankind's direction and development? I'm looking for something as fundamental as the shift from hunter-gatherer to settled farming; the social structures and inventions that arose from settled communities; the invention of metallurgy with the path through copper, to alloyed copper, to steel, with traceable cultural evolution along the way. What came next?

That is: What is the post-221 CE equivalent to the progress from stone to copper to brass to steel in making tools and weapons? It is tempting to start getting abstract - to suggest that Pisces Age paths have been through psychological factors such as belief, science-technology, and an expanding worldview. Yet, wasn't this true (in its own scale) of every prior period, too? One force that eventually drove much of the Pisces Age so far was seafaring - that's clear enough! - and perhaps it's the successor to iron. I just don't have that certainty, though.

Looking at the Middle Ages, we begin with the Dark Ages, a collapse of records and communication that buffered the transition. (Some such transition has marked other periods, too, but the informational vacuum for Pisces is interesting.) Islam arose, Christianity spread and unfurled itself, the Crusades (a fine Pisces symbol!) brought their competition to a head. Then came the plague.

I'm dwelling on this first era because I suspect the seeds are here. What I find so far is that two gigantic religious waves arose in Europe and the Middle East that then came into great confrontation which also bridged across the region much as Rome had. Marco Polo was late 13th and early 14th centuries, during the post-Crusades era, and I think symbolizes the extension of trade and communication across Europe and Asia, igniting in turn the massive European exploration by sea.

Risking sounding like an ignorant amateur of history, it seems that the imperial, international reach of entities like Rome has been democratized into broad expansion and communication tying the world together beyond the bounds of local nations. In that case, we would see the march of the Ages as explicitly showing the move from individual families to communities, from that to cities and regional hubs, then nations... with the Pisces Age (as passionately as it has preserved nations and boundaries and the wars of them) being a process of transcending boundaries and uniting more of the world interactively. (Or so I see it at the moment.)

Trade from Europe to the Far East. Ocean-faring exploration. And the printing press. Things just exploded!

By the end of this period, the SVP was 13° Pisces: We were just a little more than halfway through the Age. - It was 19° Pisces when the Early Middle Ages ended in 1000 CE. It moved from 16° Pisces to 13° Pisces during the Late Middle Ages (1250-1450, the Black Plague, oceanic exploration, and the printing press). This seems to have been history's tipping point.

I think PUBLISHING or INFORMATION was the new iron!

Early Modern Era: CE 1450-1750 that "saw a resurgence of the values and philosophies from the Classical era. When you think of Leonardo da Vinci, William Shakespeare, Johann Sebastian Bach, and Christopher Columbus, you’re thinking of the Early Modern Era." Renaissance Humanism (1400-1500), Protestant Reformation (1517-1600), European Renaissance (1450-1600), The Enlightenment or Age of Reason (1650-1800).

The printing press is responsible for most what happened here - directly, or by the consequences of its consequences. The era was marked by astonishing creativity and thought of an impact and single importance probably not seen since 5th century Greece. This period shows a maturing (reaching puberty and adolescence, so to speak) of what is happening in this Age. Thought was unleashed from the definitions of ancient formalism, religion burst out of the strictures of a single government, the arts renewed and exploded, and all human institutions began to be re-examined.

The New World was discovered by Europe. This forced dramatic changes in scientific models especially of astronomy. In contemporary terms, people's entire view of the nature of the universe (inwardly and outwardly) was rewritten as the VP moved from 13° to 9° Pisces. We were two-thirds of the way through!

Modern Era: CE 1750 to present. "The influences of both the Renaissance and the Enlightenment led to a technological boom in the Modern era, also known as the Late Modern era. The world of politics was rocked by wars, revolution and the end of the monarchy in many countries. The Modern era is truly a cumulation of millions of years of human development." Includes the First Industrial Revolution (1760-1840), Revolutionary Period (1764-1848), Age of Imperialism (1800-1914), Victorian Era (1837-1901), Second Industrial Revolution or Technological Revolution (1869-1914), World War I (1914-1918), Great Depression (1929-1939), World War II (1939-1945), and the Contemporary Period (1945 to now).

In the Modern Era - so called because it's where we currently live LOL - the VP has moved from 9° to 5° Pisces thus far. Our line of vision is too short, or focal length a bit blurred, when it comes to examining this time in contrast to the whole course of history.

Nonetheless, I do see basic trends continuing and expanding. Absorption of the whole Earth into our view has become routine (and we've started considering space). An Age that began with the collapse of all records and communication has flourished in expanded information reach, starting with printing, then expanded and revisioned science, then technology, with two industrial revolutions, expanding democracy (a major struggle of the Age), accelerated urbanization (as part of the world-encompassing cosmopolitan reach plus social efficiency). Printing, science, and technology have grown into the current Information Age.

Yes, I do think that in the Pisces Age - which is really the Pisces-Virgo Age - INFORMATION is the new iron.

I think I'm done for now.

[Jim Eshelman]

Pisces themes (to help sort through this):

• Especially attracted to the unfamiliar, foreign, exotic, wondrous, theatrical, mysterious, glamorous, and deceiving. - Need to live in the mystery (often by trying to solve it).
• Arts, drama, story-telling.
• Wanderlust, travel, emigration, exploration, missionaries, pilgrims.
• Personal, passionate REALITY womb.
• Eros and morality ibn competitive tension.

[Veronica]

Would it be correct to say that in way since we all are born during this Pisces Age that we all in a way are Piscean?
In Tropical astrology I was on the cusp so some years my birthdate was Pisces and I felt it resonated in me and I'm wondering if its because I'm living in Piscean Age.
What was the last Piscean age like? What was the time frame, I wouldnt know how to calculate past Virgo in Libra, Scorpio ect.

[Jim Eshelman]

Would it be correct to say that in way since we all are born during this Pisces Age that we all in a way are Piscean?

If someone asked if everyone with Mercury in Pisces could be called a Piscean, I'd say no - only luminaries count for that kind of reference.

But, more to the point IMHO, if everybody is a Pisces then nobody is a Pisces - since astrological distinctions are all about identifying the ways that we're not the same as everybody else.

In Tropical astrology I was on the cusp so some years my birthdate was Pisces and I felt it resonated in me and I'm wondering if its because I'm living in Piscean Age.

I think most of this is that you have Neptune closely angular, exactly conjunct your Moon, and moderately square you Sun. That's a lot of Neptune!

What was the last Piscean age like?

Well that would have begun a bit before 25,000 BC, so part of the Stone Age (3.4 million BC to 4,000 BC, roughly).

The last part of the Stone Age, called the Upper Paleolithic Age, ran from about 50,000 to 10,000 BCE, so it included the former Pisces Age - but also an entire circle of the zodiac from around 50,000 to 25,000 BCE. - To put some of this in perspective, the oldest discovered human remains are from about 40,000 BCE and the Bering land bridge brought Paleo-Indians to North America a bit before 10,000 BCE.

The period 27,000 to 25,000 BCE (the approximate dates of the last Pisces age) are discussed a bit here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Pal ... 325,000_BP
Among the interesting things from that period are the oldest known ceramic in the world and two other carvings all of female figures (called today the Venus of Dolni Vestonice, the Venus of Willendorf, and the Red Lady of Paviland. Early humans also likely settled around Beijing.

[Veronica]

It could have been a unifying slogan.....
"We are The Pisean People" a way to get people interested in their astrology and their life.
As water is so fundamental life ,I see during this age our population has exploded.
I would also mention our development and consumption of oil.

[SteveS]

The most profound mystery about the precessional astrological ages that has been revealed to my mind, no doubts, the 4 fixed signs of the Sidereal Zodiac are coded deeply into all the great esoterica traditions throughout history. These signs are Leo, Taurus, Aquarius, and Scorpio. It is obvious to me the ancients are trying to convey something special about these 4 precessional astrological ages to humankind. If one knows how to look, these 4 fixed signs are coded into the Giza complex. I believe these 4 ages have something to do with humankind's collected unconscious being awaken in a spiritual manner. I will try to later provide links which help prove the rich esoterica historical traditions with these 4 Ages.

[Jim Eshelman]

...the 4 fixed signs of the Sidereal Zodiac are coded deeply into all the great esoterica traditions throughout history. These signs are Leo, Taurus, Aquarius, and Scorpio. It is obvious to me the ancients are trying to convey something special about these 4 precessional astrological ages to humankind.

The simplest explanation is that the equinoxes and solstices fell in these constellations at the time these ideas originated in a similar form in Mesopotamia and then migrated to nearby Israel, absorbed into Greece, etc.

[SteveS]

Go to the 11 min mark of the below video and you will see Carlson explain an aspect of the 4 fixed astrological ages coded into the Chartres Goethe Cathedral build around 1150 AD. This explanation last about 8 min.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZERMcjg9lJo&t=1325s

Then, if you want to understand more about the mystery of the era of the Goethe Cathedrals you can watch this 3 min video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WHuZH2_9y0

[SteveS]

The four seasons of the great year (Precessional Cycle) are marked by Egypt’s four minor sphinxes, Ezekiel's four heads of the beast, Revelation’s four cherubim, and precessional astronomy’s Taurus, Leo, Aquarius, and Scorpio (Abraham's Eagle) constellations.

If interested, you can read/see more here:
https://www.revealer.com/review.htm

IMO, Giza is a Precessional Clock left for humankind emphasizing the precessional ages of Taurus, Leo, Aquarius, and Scorpio. If you feel a need to see/understand my opinion with other scholarly writings by others, let me know. In my life, if I did not come to the understanding that the Sidereal Zodiac was the true Zodiac of the ancients, I never would have been able to see these 4 Precessional Ages emphasized by our great esoterica traditions, particularly in Ancient Egypt. As to WHY historical esoterica traditions have passed down through thousands of years are emphasizing these 4 Precessional Ages with their symbology, I am still trying to come to conclusions.

[Veronica]

I have been reading _The Romance of Astronomy The Music of the Spheres; A Nature Lover's Astronomy_ by Florence Armstrong Grondal 1937 and she very deliciously talks about the changing of Earths pole star over time.
What really struck me, and why I am mentioning it is that her explanation led me wonder about what it would be like to live on Earth under a different pole star and to have the constellations seemingly doing and telling a completely different story then they do today. It made me question if what may just an arbitrary anchor of reference our verbiage cardinal, rim, fixed, hub, mutable, spoke may more be an actual awareness of precession and that their pole star was indeed not fixed forever, but part of a moving galaxy and by anchoring certain constellations in mythos and archetypical imagery they were in way preparing thier descendants for a change in navigational tools.

[RingsOfSaturn22]

I have been reading _The Romance of Astronomy The Music of the Spheres; A Nature Lover's Astronomy_ by Florence Armstrong Grondal 1937 and she very deliciously talks about the changing of Earths pole star over time.

You have made this sound so enticing that I MUST check it out now. Thanks for sharing it with us.

[SteveS]

Interesting V, thanks. I will check her writings out. For sure we are the ancient’s descendants and it certainly appears to me they are leaving/designing myth through symbology, bringing attention for our minds to the Precessional Cycle. It’s kinda like they left a message in a bottle for us to find and discover in a certain time in the future. One thing for sure, Giza was built to last a long time.

[Jim Eshelman]

Age of Leo 10,879-8614 BCE (2,265 years)

Interesting timing: Sometime around 13,000 years ago, a comet fragment struck Earth. Current best estimate is 10,850 BCE - i.e., almost exactly at the transition from the Virgonian Age to the Leonian Age.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/10/worl ... -tepe.html

This comet strike "ushered in a 1,200-year ice age and led to the extinction of many large animals... For humans, the comet probably also led to differences in lifestyle and agriculture that helped usher in the rise of civilization as we know it." This would be half the Leonian Age. (I thought the last ice age ended near the start of the Virgonian Age two thousand years earlier.)

The article references "the summer solstice constellation at the time." If the vernal equinox was at almost precisely 0° Virgo / 30° Leo, this puts the summer solstice at 0° Sagittarius, so I'm not sure what they might mean (unless the implication is that the constellations had unrecognizably different names that far back). There are several bird constellations near that part of space at a much higher latitude.

[SteveS]

Exactly Jim!!! This is what I have been trying to state on this forum for years about Giza, someone or a group of adepts designed and built Giza as a message for future generations, but it can only be deciphered if you know the exact boundaries of the Sidereal Zodiac. I discovered this Precessional Giza message back in the early 90s, and it is just recently that new scientific evidence has come to light which proves planet earth was hit by a large fragmented comet near 30 degree Precessional Leo. It was an “extinction” level hit that wiped out all the mega-faunal animals, and most North America humans.

Anyone interested in scientific proof for this comet hit, most likely on the mile thick Ice Sheets in North America, I highly recommend the book “Deadly Voyager” with tons of scientific evidence, you must judge for yourself.

If anyone has the time be sure and watch the Alaskan Boneyard, a true fascinating story of a massive amount of mega-faunal bones discovered on a large gold mining property in Alaska. This massive comet hit on the continental Ice Sheets during the last great Ice Age caused massive floods which we find historical evidence in ancient myths from all over the planet, including the so-called Bibilical Flood!

The Boneyard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCBJR32zzxQ

[SteveS]

Note the handbags on the stone pillar at Gobi-Tepe in this thread with the pillar being dated back thousands of years ago. These same handbags are found/seen with many different cultures across the planet in different past epochs, maybe some type of sage brotherhood? To me, these handbags are like a fingerprint for sages responsible for kick-starting a new culture for important times in the past. Many times when we see these ancient fingerprints of these handbags we will see on the wrists of the entity holding the handbag a timepiece/wristwatch. This introduces TIME into these iconic figures with the handbags. Then we will see with these ancient cultures where astronomy is coded into their stone structures. It’s kinda like important TIME markers for the distant past. Could it be these possible sages hold the actual blueprints for the future calculated with a precessional knowledge? I think the ancient Egyptians inherited these possible blueprints from a distant past---knowledge handed down throughout history. I also think it highly possible the possible astronomical blueprint at Gobi-Tepe was reproduced with more modern technology at Giza. If so, WHY?

[Veronica]

That's a great question Steve! Why indeed!

It might be because human beings have trouble transitioning from one moment to the next, ending one activity and starting another for example, and having the foreknowledge that in 5 minutes it's time to clean up for lunch is invaluable for optimal performance.