Donald Trump's SLRs
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Donald Trump's SLRs
If we can adequately track where Donald Trump is travelling, I'll run this thread tracking his lunars like the VP Harris thread.
Trump will have a Demi-SLR tomorrow, July 31, at 9:19 AM EDT. If anyone catches where he is in the morning, please let me know.
Trump will have a Demi-SLR tomorrow, July 31, at 9:19 AM EDT. If anyone catches where he is in the morning, please let me know.
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Re: Donald Trump's SLRs
I see he'll be in Harrisburg, PA in the evening. I doubt he flies up half a day early. and don't know where he's flying from (where he is sleeping tonight).
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Looks like he will be speaking at the National Association of Black Journalists Convention in Chicago at noon CST.
https://abc13.com/post/donald-trump-att ... /15122508/
I believe he is in Bedminster now.
https://abc13.com/post/donald-trump-att ... /15122508/
I believe he is in Bedminster now.
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Ah, of course he is - it's summer (not in Mar-a-Lago). I'd missed that. So about four hours before his speech he's probably still in/near Bedminster?
Flying time Newark to Chicago is 2:40. The return is 8:19 AM CDT. If he left immediately after, he'd be there 11:09 AM Chicago time with a commute through Wednesday noon Chicago traffic from O'Hare on the north side. He might stay at one of his Chicago properties overnight, but it's more like him hit town just in time.
I'm going to guess it's the golf course.
Flying time Newark to Chicago is 2:40. The return is 8:19 AM CDT. If he left immediately after, he'd be there 11:09 AM Chicago time with a commute through Wednesday noon Chicago traffic from O'Hare on the north side. He might stay at one of his Chicago properties overnight, but it's more like him hit town just in time.
I'm going to guess it's the golf course.
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I don't know how useful this is for estimating his actual arrival time, but the there is a an FCC no fly zone in Chicago tomorrow that starts at 1115 CDT.
https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_9496.html
The zone over Bedminster continues until 230 EDT
As an aside, this site might be helpful to track the candidates as you can filter the type for VIP
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https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_9496.html
The zone over Bedminster continues until 230 EDT
As an aside, this site might be helpful to track the candidates as you can filter the type for VIP
https://tfr.faa.gov/tfr2/list.jsp
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Demi-SLR 7/31/24
Donald Trump's Demi-SLR occurs July 31, 2024, 9:18:59 AM EDT. As he is scheduled to speak in Chicago at noon (1 PM EDT), and given flight times, my best estimate is that he will leave New Jersey soon after his demi-lunar sets up. Therefore, I am calculating it for Trump National Golf Club 40N39'11" 74W41'42".
If he is indeed in New Jersey for the demi-lunar setup, of mixed fortunes - Jupiter and Saturn being closest to the angles and in close mundane aspect - with Saturn overwhelmingly stronger. Besides that, there are no surprises: The chart shows him remaining in the limelight, pulling out surprises, scrappy, ego-motivated, etc. (in other words, the usual). Here is the breakdown.
r Sun MC -8°26'
t Moon MC -5°57' [r Moon IC -6°38']
r Uranus MC -3°12'
t Saturn on Dsc -0°05'
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t Jupiter MC +1°36'
t Mars MC +8°59'
t Saturn sq r Uranus 0°22'
t Jupiter-Saturn sq 1°40' M
r Moon-Sun op 1°43'
t Moon co r Uranus 2°45' M
In the less likely scenario where he flies tonight and stays in one of his Chicago properties overnight, the chart is pure belligerents scrappiness. (Anybody surprised?) In any case, when he arrives in Chicago tomorrow transiting Mars will be toping the chart (mere minutes from square Ascendant) and his own Mars on Eastpoint. He loses the angular Saturn (except that he ultimately carries it with him all month if the return set up in New Jersey), acquiring new competitive nastiness and losing any trace of restraint. There is also significant risk of further violence. - He's probably flying in tomorrow because Chicago air space is only locked down beginning about 11 AM tomorrow. - Here is the breakdown of the chart when he lands in Chicago:
t Saturn Dsc -9°42'
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t Mercury EP +0°35'
t Mars Z +0°35'
r Mars EP-a +1°17'
t Uranus MC +7°20'
t Uranus sq r Mars 1°02'
The Jupiter MC line passes through eastern Pennsylvania. His rally there tomorrow night is likely to be his most successful of the week.
If he is indeed in New Jersey for the demi-lunar setup, of mixed fortunes - Jupiter and Saturn being closest to the angles and in close mundane aspect - with Saturn overwhelmingly stronger. Besides that, there are no surprises: The chart shows him remaining in the limelight, pulling out surprises, scrappy, ego-motivated, etc. (in other words, the usual). Here is the breakdown.
r Sun MC -8°26'
t Moon MC -5°57' [r Moon IC -6°38']
r Uranus MC -3°12'
t Saturn on Dsc -0°05'
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t Jupiter MC +1°36'
t Mars MC +8°59'
t Saturn sq r Uranus 0°22'
t Jupiter-Saturn sq 1°40' M
r Moon-Sun op 1°43'
t Moon co r Uranus 2°45' M
In the less likely scenario where he flies tonight and stays in one of his Chicago properties overnight, the chart is pure belligerents scrappiness. (Anybody surprised?) In any case, when he arrives in Chicago tomorrow transiting Mars will be toping the chart (mere minutes from square Ascendant) and his own Mars on Eastpoint. He loses the angular Saturn (except that he ultimately carries it with him all month if the return set up in New Jersey), acquiring new competitive nastiness and losing any trace of restraint. There is also significant risk of further violence. - He's probably flying in tomorrow because Chicago air space is only locked down beginning about 11 AM tomorrow. - Here is the breakdown of the chart when he lands in Chicago:
t Saturn Dsc -9°42'
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t Mercury EP +0°35'
t Mars Z +0°35'
r Mars EP-a +1°17'
t Uranus MC +7°20'
t Uranus sq r Mars 1°02'
The Jupiter MC line passes through eastern Pennsylvania. His rally there tomorrow night is likely to be his most successful of the week.
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SLR 8/14/24
Please help me track where Donald Trump will be tomorrow (Wednesday, August 14) late night - 11:55 PM EDT. I'll assume New Jersey unless I can find something else.
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Trump is in Asheville, North Carolina for a rally beginning at 4 PM tomorrow. The police are cordoning off roads today and expected to reopen them at 10 PM, August 14th. He likely won’t hang around and will head back to Bedminster, asap.Please help me track where Donald Trump will be tomorrow
https://www.ashevillenc.gov/news/ashevi ... ign-event/
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Re: SLR 8/14/24
Thanks, Lyse. It sounds like he'll be back in or near Bedminster when the SLR sets up. (Best estimate based on your information and the 1:23 flight time from Ashville to Bedminster.0 Here is Trump's new SLR:
SLR August 14, 2024, 11:54:57 PM EDT, Trump National Golf Club 40N39'11" 74:43:42"
t Mercury N -1°32'
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t Uranus Asc +0°30'
r Mars N +0°29'
t Pluto MC -9°59'
t Uranus sq r Mars 0°45'
t Mercury co r Mars 2°01'
t Mercury-Uranus sq 2°45'
SLR August 14, 2024, 11:54:57 PM EDT, Trump National Golf Club 40N39'11" 74:43:42"
t Mercury N -1°32'
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t Uranus Asc +0°30'
r Mars N +0°29'
t Pluto MC -9°59'
t Uranus sq r Mars 0°45'
t Mercury co r Mars 2°01'
t Mercury-Uranus sq 2°45'
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Trump left N.C. a few hours ago and has announced he will be holding a press conference tomorrow, August 15th, at Bedminster. A safe bet that he’ll be sleeping in N.J. tonight.
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/tr ... r-AA1oOIMr
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Re: SLR 8/14/24
Thanks.
As I posted yesterday on Facebook about this chart:
As I posted yesterday on Facebook about this chart:
In this case, I don't think the new chart (effective for four weeks) tells us anything we don't already expect: We're going to be hearing more from him in the next few weeks than in the last few weeks. His rhetoric will be aggressive and fiery. He is preparing some surprises, some absurdities, and bombast intended to knock over fence posts. Everything is "no holds barred" and full speed ahead. I suppose we also should advise him to be extra careful of things like vehicular accidents.
These conclusions are based on the following main points of his SLR:
2°03' Tau - t Uranus
2°47' Leo - r Mars
3°16' Tau - SLR Asc
4°48' Leo - t Mercury
t Uranus sq r Mars 0°45'
t Mercury co r Mars 2°01'
t Mercury-Uranus sq 2°45'
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SLR 9/11/24
Donald Trumps next SLR occurs September 11, 2024, 8:18 AM. The question is... where?
The night before, he will be in Philadelphia for his debate with Kamala Harris. I suspect he won't stay there. Because it is nearby (and summer), he probably will return to Bedminster overnight UNLESS he is scheduled make campaign stops somewhere else.
I expecting he'll come off very badly in the debate and not want to show his face for a day or two, but I might be wrong about that. He might pull it off (at least to his own satisfaction and sense that he did well). Nonetheless, a retreat to his golf club is a reasonable bet. If so, he gets natal Mercury-Neptune on angles for four weeks.
Please help me identify where he will be the early morning after the debate.
The night before, he will be in Philadelphia for his debate with Kamala Harris. I suspect he won't stay there. Because it is nearby (and summer), he probably will return to Bedminster overnight UNLESS he is scheduled make campaign stops somewhere else.
I expecting he'll come off very badly in the debate and not want to show his face for a day or two, but I might be wrong about that. He might pull it off (at least to his own satisfaction and sense that he did well). Nonetheless, a retreat to his golf club is a reasonable bet. If so, he gets natal Mercury-Neptune on angles for four weeks.
Please help me identify where he will be the early morning after the debate.
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Just looking at the flight restrictions, there is one over NYC from late on the 10th through the afternoon of the 11th. Does he have a legal reason to be there perhaps? I think he was there Friday for the E. Jean Carroll case.
Re: Donald Trump's SLRs
“ Former President Trump and Vice President Harris will both mark the 23rd anniversary of the 9/11 attacks at stops in New York City and Shanksville, Pa.”
https://thehill.com/homenews/4871937-tr ... ound-zero/
https://thehill.com/homenews/4871937-tr ... ound-zero/
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Re: SLR 9/11/24
Trump is going to WTC first, it says, then another NYC stop, so I'm guessing he'll be there in the morning (peraps sleeping in Trump Tower overnight?). - Anybody got a better read on this?
Here is his SLR for Manhattan:
r Jupiter Asc -8°27'
t Venus MC -6°06'
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r Mercury MC +0°37'
r Neptune Asc +2°39'
t Mars +7°00' MC
r Mercury-Neptune sq 2°02'
t Venus co r Jupiter 2°20' M
t Mars sq r Neptune 2°57'
OTHER PARTILE ASPECTS
t Sun sq r Uranus 0°16'
t Sun sq r Moon 0°17' M
t Uranus sq r Mar 0°39'
t Sun-Jupiter sq 0°50'
t Saturn sq r Uranus 0°54'
t Jupiter co r Uranus 0°58' M
If you drop the most widely angular foreground planets, it simplifies:
t Venus MC -6°06'
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r Mercury MC +0°37'
r Neptune Asc +2°39'
r Mercury-Neptune sq 2°02'
Here is his SLR for Manhattan:
r Jupiter Asc -8°27'
t Venus MC -6°06'
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r Mercury MC +0°37'
r Neptune Asc +2°39'
t Mars +7°00' MC
r Mercury-Neptune sq 2°02'
t Venus co r Jupiter 2°20' M
t Mars sq r Neptune 2°57'
OTHER PARTILE ASPECTS
t Sun sq r Uranus 0°16'
t Sun sq r Moon 0°17' M
t Uranus sq r Mar 0°39'
t Sun-Jupiter sq 0°50'
t Saturn sq r Uranus 0°54'
t Jupiter co r Uranus 0°58' M
If you drop the most widely angular foreground planets, it simplifies:
t Venus MC -6°06'
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r Mercury MC +0°37'
r Neptune Asc +2°39'
r Mercury-Neptune sq 2°02'
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“ According to his campaign, Trump will be at Ground Zero in the morning before visiting a New York City fire station. He will then fly to Shanksville, landing around 11 a.m., then stop at a local fire station.”
Jim, I’m not sure how long the flight is from NYC to Shanksville but this is the latest update.
https://www.wtae.com/article/trump-shan ... 4/62142866
Jim, I’m not sure how long the flight is from NYC to Shanksville but this is the latest update.
https://www.wtae.com/article/trump-shan ... 4/62142866
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Re: Donald Trump's SLRs
The question is where he will Ge at 8:11 AM. Will he wake in New Jersey and travel to Manhattan, or sleep in Trump Tower etc.?
My current thought is he'll be in NYC at 8:11 AM.
My current thought is he'll be in NYC at 8:11 AM.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-e ... rcna169724
In a call aired live on Fox News' Fox & Friends this morning, Trump said his running mate Vance will join him at a 9/11 commemoration event in lower Manhattan this morning. The service begins at 8:30 a.m. ET.
In a call aired live on Fox News' Fox & Friends this morning, Trump said his running mate Vance will join him at a 9/11 commemoration event in lower Manhattan this morning. The service begins at 8:30 a.m. ET.
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That seals the deal. Thank you!
9/11/2024, 7:18:24 AM EST, 40N42'42" 74W00'45" - or very close to that.
9/11/2024, 7:18:24 AM EST, 40N42'42" 74W00'45" - or very close to that.
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Re: SLR 9/11/24
I just posted the following interpretation of this chart on a Facebook page devoted to mundane astrology.
Trump was scheduled to appear early this morning at the WTC site for 9/11 remembrances. He may not have been exactly at that site at 7:18 AM for the 8:30 AM event but he surely was nearby in Manhattan.
Unlike Kamala Harris, Trump has not been drawn to particularly auspicious places for his lunar return setups, though he has been unerringly drawn to places that put the salient traits of Donald Trump on display. Recent returns, for example, primarily were Mars driven, amplifying his natural Mars-rising traits of aggression, dominance, and the like. This new one, in contrast, is primarily dominated by his natal Mercury-Neptune square, with natal Mercury 0°34' from MC and natal Neptune 2°37' above Ascendant.
I don't need to spell out what this means for most of you. Probably the first words to arise in your brain are liar and Deceiver in Chief. There is more to it, of course, though the "more" rests on similar traits. With a powerful Mercury-Neptune natal aspect, reason and unreason are in tension with each other. Deception is one common form, but the other is enthrallment. Mercury-Neptune people get totally absorbed in and enthralled by dreams and stories and have a genuine genius for enthralling others, weaving others in the storyline's thread. They are hyper-responsive to things in their environment, extremely sensitive, magnify trivialities, and fixate on particular points to the exclusion of competing fact. In other words, typical Trump speeches!
Mercury-Neptune also experiences enormous release of psychological pressures by solving fantasy problems - appearing to solve problems that don't exist (and making the seem yuge) while circumventing their actual problems.
He might even think he did really well in last night's debate.
There is a little bit more to the lunar return, though natal Mercury-Neptune captures most of it. On the good side for him, transiting Venus conjoins is Jupiter, giving a sense of pleasure and honestly feeling good about himself. On the negative side for him, transiting Mars squares his Neptune, an aspect known for exposing one's tenderest vulnerabilities to effective assault. However, both of these aspects fall pretty widely from the angles, so they're not that big of a deal (t Venus 6°, t Mars 7°, r Jupiter 8+°).
This chart will take on new notes as he moves around the country for the next two to four weeks and its angles relocate, but the above emphasis will stay with him all month as well.
Trump was scheduled to appear early this morning at the WTC site for 9/11 remembrances. He may not have been exactly at that site at 7:18 AM for the 8:30 AM event but he surely was nearby in Manhattan.
Unlike Kamala Harris, Trump has not been drawn to particularly auspicious places for his lunar return setups, though he has been unerringly drawn to places that put the salient traits of Donald Trump on display. Recent returns, for example, primarily were Mars driven, amplifying his natural Mars-rising traits of aggression, dominance, and the like. This new one, in contrast, is primarily dominated by his natal Mercury-Neptune square, with natal Mercury 0°34' from MC and natal Neptune 2°37' above Ascendant.
I don't need to spell out what this means for most of you. Probably the first words to arise in your brain are liar and Deceiver in Chief. There is more to it, of course, though the "more" rests on similar traits. With a powerful Mercury-Neptune natal aspect, reason and unreason are in tension with each other. Deception is one common form, but the other is enthrallment. Mercury-Neptune people get totally absorbed in and enthralled by dreams and stories and have a genuine genius for enthralling others, weaving others in the storyline's thread. They are hyper-responsive to things in their environment, extremely sensitive, magnify trivialities, and fixate on particular points to the exclusion of competing fact. In other words, typical Trump speeches!
Mercury-Neptune also experiences enormous release of psychological pressures by solving fantasy problems - appearing to solve problems that don't exist (and making the seem yuge) while circumventing their actual problems.
He might even think he did really well in last night's debate.
There is a little bit more to the lunar return, though natal Mercury-Neptune captures most of it. On the good side for him, transiting Venus conjoins is Jupiter, giving a sense of pleasure and honestly feeling good about himself. On the negative side for him, transiting Mars squares his Neptune, an aspect known for exposing one's tenderest vulnerabilities to effective assault. However, both of these aspects fall pretty widely from the angles, so they're not that big of a deal (t Venus 6°, t Mars 7°, r Jupiter 8+°).
This chart will take on new notes as he moves around the country for the next two to four weeks and its angles relocate, but the above emphasis will stay with him all month as well.
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I was not enthralled, not one bit. As I watched (and honestly I have tried really hard not to watch him speak about anything, even when he was President) I had to blink and rub my eyes, shake my head and then look again because I swear to goodness I feel like I was watching my dad. The minute facial expressions, the eyes esp but also his mouth and torso body language ...uncanny. My father repeats his rhetoric verbatim, word for word. It was truly a scary moment for me and made me keenly aware of Trumps marketing teams use of subliminal messages and verbal intoxication.
On a positive note, I thought that after this election he may win the trophy for the person who lost the most presidential races as this is his third bid, and I dont think he beat Hillary honestly. I could be wrong, maybe someone else has the title of biggest loser already.
On a positive note, I thought that after this election he may win the trophy for the person who lost the most presidential races as this is his third bid, and I dont think he beat Hillary honestly. I could be wrong, maybe someone else has the title of biggest loser already.
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Re: Donald Trump's SLRs
Marion and I particularly enjoyed this moment. (No need to read the article if you don't want to. Just watch the clip.)
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/10/politics ... ews-digvid
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/10/politics ... ews-digvid
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Fact!
Yes, I think I had an “Yes, exactly!” Outburst with a few “you go girl!”
That was an especially poignant moment.
Yes, I think I had an “Yes, exactly!” Outburst with a few “you go girl!”
That was an especially poignant moment.
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Re: SLR 9/11/24
Trump's 9/11/24 lunar return set up in Manhattan. Then, this weekend, at his Florida residence, a second attempted murder occurred - interrupted by Secret Service. Relocating his SLR to Mar-a-Lago, the MC switches to conjoin transiting Mars! In fact, the Mars transit to natal Neptune (that I mentioned as a rough aspect before) is the only foreground aspect:
8°54' Gem - t Mars
9°54' Vir - SLR Asc
10°02' Gem - SLR MC
11°51' Vir - r Neptune
8°54' Gem - t Mars
9°54' Vir - SLR Asc
10°02' Gem - SLR MC
11°51' Vir - r Neptune
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Demi-SLR 9/23/24
Trump's demi-lunar occurs Monday, September 23, at 9:02 PM EDT. There seems a good chance that on a Monday night he'll have a rally somewhere. Starting the search - help appreciated.
So far found:
7:00 PM EDT Indiana, PA at Kovalchick Convention & Athletic Complex
https://www.uspresidentialelectionnews. ... -schedule/
https://www.thepenn.org/news/trump-rall ... dfa77.html
This is likely it. He usually stars late and speaks long. The venue is at 40N36'44", 79W.09'34".
If that's the location, a wild month is anticipated in which Trump likely will have a really good time (at least, for a while). With Jupiter's transits, this may be his strongest stretch in the campaign.
t Uranus Asc -5°53'
t Pluto MC -5°49'
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r Venus IC +1°13'
t Venus WP-a +0°49'
r Saturn IC +5°52'
t Uranus-Pluto sq 0°04' M
t Venus-Pluto sq 1°25'
r Venus-Saturn co 1°55'
t Venus sq r Saturn 2°29' M
t Pluto op r Venus 2°53'
OTHER PARTILE ASPECTS
t Sun-Neptune op 0°23' M
t Jupiter op r Moon 0°45' M
t Uranus sq r Mars 0°49'
So far found:
7:00 PM EDT Indiana, PA at Kovalchick Convention & Athletic Complex
https://www.uspresidentialelectionnews. ... -schedule/
https://www.thepenn.org/news/trump-rall ... dfa77.html
This is likely it. He usually stars late and speaks long. The venue is at 40N36'44", 79W.09'34".
If that's the location, a wild month is anticipated in which Trump likely will have a really good time (at least, for a while). With Jupiter's transits, this may be his strongest stretch in the campaign.
t Uranus Asc -5°53'
t Pluto MC -5°49'
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r Venus IC +1°13'
t Venus WP-a +0°49'
r Saturn IC +5°52'
t Uranus-Pluto sq 0°04' M
t Venus-Pluto sq 1°25'
r Venus-Saturn co 1°55'
t Venus sq r Saturn 2°29' M
t Pluto op r Venus 2°53'
OTHER PARTILE ASPECTS
t Sun-Neptune op 0°23' M
t Jupiter op r Moon 0°45' M
t Uranus sq r Mars 0°49'
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Re: Demi-SLR 9/23/24
I just posted this on the Facebook "Mundane Astrologers" page.
Donald Trump Demi-SLR (Sidereal Demi-Lunar Return) Sep 23, 2024, 9:02 PM EDT.
Trump's new two-week chart sets up tonight. He's scheduled to give a speech in the town of Indiana, PA at the Kovalchick Convention & Athletic Complex. It's set to start at 7 PM, he usually arrives late and talks long, so my best estimate is that he will be still there (or nearby) at 9:02 PM.
If so, anticipate a wild fortnight for him in which he likely feels good and has a really good time. With concurrent Jupiter transits this may be his strongest stretch of the campaign.
Transiting and natal Venus are the most closely angular planets, though both are aspecting his natal Saturn and transiting Pluto. That's pretty divisive for interpersonal matters. Historically, Trump hasn't felt the kind of personal loss non-narcissists feel under these transits unless his natal Neptune is also engaged (he has a Venus-Saturn-Neptune paran in NY-to-DC latitudes that sometimes rotates to the angles); this isn't one of those occasions. He IS likely to sever some personal connections (but not necessarily feel bad about it).
In fact, along with the basic trait that he feels pretty good about himself for two weeks, there is likely to be quite a shake-up around him: Uranus and Pluto, each not quite 6° from the angles, have a 0°04' mundane square. That usually means a lot of shakeup!
Of course, as lunar returns are geographically adaptable, this will modify (add a new layer) as he moves around the country over the next month. However, if he indeed is at the rally site when this sets up, this basic imprint will persist for the life of the chart.
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SLR 10/8/14
Donald Trump's next SLR will occur October 8, 2024, 3:00:31 PM EDT. It is his last SLR before the one that occurs the evening before Election Day.
As usual, the question is: Where will be the afternoon of Tuesday, October 8, mid-afternoon. I'll be on the road and not able work things up as we get close, so I'm hoping to get some insight in the next day or so on where he will be then. (If he's in Mar-a-Lago, it will be a really unhappy month. One might expect he'd be somewhere else.)
This says he's having a town hall from Miami at 10 PM that night.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-october/
(Harris will have a competing town hall from Las Vegas almost concurrently.)
If that's true, the question is when he will travel to Miami. Palm Beach (Mar-a-Lago) is 26N41 80W02. Miami is 25N46 80W12. The nearly identical longitudes are most important, making the charts nearly identical. It's about an hour drive. I would guess he'd stay in his home through the afternoon and travel down (about an hour's drive) closer to the 10 PM start time. For Mar-a-Lago, the chart looks like this:
t Venus MC -4°36'
t Pluto Asc -1°54'
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r Venus Dsc +1°29'
r Saturn +4°20'
r Venus-Saturn co 1°55'
t Venus-Pluto sq 2°42' M
t Pluto op r Venus 2°48'
If he goes to Miami earlier in the day, he loses the transiting Venus-Pluto aspect (only has the other two aspects) and Pluto to natal Venus are the most angular; but I think he'll stay in Mar-a-Lago through the afternoon.
As usual, the question is: Where will be the afternoon of Tuesday, October 8, mid-afternoon. I'll be on the road and not able work things up as we get close, so I'm hoping to get some insight in the next day or so on where he will be then. (If he's in Mar-a-Lago, it will be a really unhappy month. One might expect he'd be somewhere else.)
This says he's having a town hall from Miami at 10 PM that night.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-october/
(Harris will have a competing town hall from Las Vegas almost concurrently.)
If that's true, the question is when he will travel to Miami. Palm Beach (Mar-a-Lago) is 26N41 80W02. Miami is 25N46 80W12. The nearly identical longitudes are most important, making the charts nearly identical. It's about an hour drive. I would guess he'd stay in his home through the afternoon and travel down (about an hour's drive) closer to the 10 PM start time. For Mar-a-Lago, the chart looks like this:
t Venus MC -4°36'
t Pluto Asc -1°54'
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r Venus Dsc +1°29'
r Saturn +4°20'
r Venus-Saturn co 1°55'
t Venus-Pluto sq 2°42' M
t Pluto op r Venus 2°48'
If he goes to Miami earlier in the day, he loses the transiting Venus-Pluto aspect (only has the other two aspects) and Pluto to natal Venus are the most angular; but I think he'll stay in Mar-a-Lago through the afternoon.
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Flight restrictions are in Miami from Monday eventing until 330 pm.
The town hall has been rescheduled for the 16th due to hurricane milton: https://corporate.televisaunivision.com ... ilton/amp/
I wonder if he even goes there with the hurricane.
The town hall has been rescheduled for the 16th due to hurricane milton: https://corporate.televisaunivision.com ... ilton/amp/
I wonder if he even goes there with the hurricane.
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Did you get a clue where he is? Perhaps NOT in Mar-a-Lago because of Milton? He's been back to loving there most of the time. (If he's elsewhere, does this chart show massive damage to the resort? Thst would be staggering important because the ONE positive thing for him in this election is the expectation he's in Palm Beach the night before election day.)
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Actually looks like he is Miami today to commemorate the October 7th attack on Israel. The event is at 6pm tonight
https://flvoicenews.com/trump-to-attend ... on-monday/
According to this site which is tracking his jet, it looks like he is New York now. And has been going back and forth from there for a couple days
https://celebrityprivatejettracker.com/ ... 57af/#gref
This makes sense with flight restrictions in New York from October 07, 2024 at 1700 EDT to October 09, 2024 at 1500 EDT
He is due to be Pennsylvania on the 9th for rallies in scranton and reading.
My guess is that he will stay at his golf course today and leave sometime tomorrow for New York, and then go Pennsylvania on the 9th.
ETA: there is also flight restrictions in NYC from October 06, 2024 at 2215 UTC to October 07, 2024 at 1945 UTC
https://flvoicenews.com/trump-to-attend ... on-monday/
According to this site which is tracking his jet, it looks like he is New York now. And has been going back and forth from there for a couple days
https://celebrityprivatejettracker.com/ ... 57af/#gref
This makes sense with flight restrictions in New York from October 07, 2024 at 1700 EDT to October 09, 2024 at 1500 EDT
He is due to be Pennsylvania on the 9th for rallies in scranton and reading.
My guess is that he will stay at his golf course today and leave sometime tomorrow for New York, and then go Pennsylvania on the 9th.
ETA: there is also flight restrictions in NYC from October 06, 2024 at 2215 UTC to October 07, 2024 at 1945 UTC
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So... we're still guessing, of course... He probably won't stay in Florida because of the hurricane, will go back to Bedminster tonight. Then with no other events we know about, still be there tomorrow at 3 PM?
I may not be able to do any real work on the chart until I get home so we may know in hindsight by then. Thanks for great help on this!
I may not be able to do any real work on the chart until I get home so we may know in hindsight by then. Thanks for great help on this!
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He left Miami 2 hours ago. He looks to be about to land in New York. I imagine he will stay there through the afternoon, but I'll check in the morning.
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Does he land in NY to go to NJ? Or land elsewhere?
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He just landed at LaGuardia
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Thanks :_ So he's either going to Manhattan or NJ. I suspect he's living in NJ.
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The flight restriction in New York is a 5 nautical miles radius from LaGuardia. Does that include Bedminster? I'm not familiar with the area.
https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_6137.html
https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_6137.html
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60 miles. I don't know how he travels. Does he maybe land at a major airport and helicopter over?
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I don't know, but I believe TFR is centered over where he is residing at any given time. So, if he is in Jersey I think it is usually over New Bedford while he is in residence there. Since it's not, I'd guess he is in Manhattan today.
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Re: SLR 10/8/14
For Trump Tower in Manhattan, the angularities are mostly good though the foreground aspects are harsh:
t Pluto Asc -4°02'
r Venus Dsc -0°56'
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r Saturn Dsc +1°56'
t Venus MC +4°49'
t Mars Dsc +5°41'
t Venus-Mars sq 0°52'
r Venus-Saturn co 1°55'
t Pluto op r Venus 2°48'
t Venus sq r Saturn 2°53' M
t Mars co r Saturn 3°45' M
IF PVP ASPECTS ARE VALID
t Venus sq r Mars 0°03' p
r Venus-Mars sq 0°31' p
t Pluto sq r Mars 0°46' p
For Trump National Golf Club, the chart is similar (with small differences):
t Pluto Asc -4°30'
r Venus Dsc -1°25'
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r Saturn Dsc +1°27'
t Venus MC +3°29'
t Mars Dsc +5°11'
r Pluto WP-a +2°50'
t Venus-Mars sq 1°42'
r Venus-Saturn co 1°55' M
t Venus sq r Saturn 2°03' M
t Pluto op r Venus 2°48'
t Mars co r Saturn 3°44' M
IF PVP ASPECTS ARE VALID
r Venus-Mars sq 0°13' p
t Venus sq r Mars 0°26' p
t Pluto sq r Mars 1°03' p
t Pluto Asc -4°02'
r Venus Dsc -0°56'
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r Saturn Dsc +1°56'
t Venus MC +4°49'
t Mars Dsc +5°41'
t Venus-Mars sq 0°52'
r Venus-Saturn co 1°55'
t Pluto op r Venus 2°48'
t Venus sq r Saturn 2°53' M
t Mars co r Saturn 3°45' M
IF PVP ASPECTS ARE VALID
t Venus sq r Mars 0°03' p
r Venus-Mars sq 0°31' p
t Pluto sq r Mars 0°46' p
For Trump National Golf Club, the chart is similar (with small differences):
t Pluto Asc -4°30'
r Venus Dsc -1°25'
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r Saturn Dsc +1°27'
t Venus MC +3°29'
t Mars Dsc +5°11'
r Pluto WP-a +2°50'
t Venus-Mars sq 1°42'
r Venus-Saturn co 1°55' M
t Venus sq r Saturn 2°03' M
t Pluto op r Venus 2°48'
t Mars co r Saturn 3°44' M
IF PVP ASPECTS ARE VALID
r Venus-Mars sq 0°13' p
t Venus sq r Mars 0°26' p
t Pluto sq r Mars 1°03' p
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Demi-SLR 10/21/24
Donald Trump's Demi-SLR - his last lunar until the evening before Election Day - occurs next Monday, October 21, at 5:28 AM EDT. Where will we wake up next Monday morning?
This article says he will be in Greenville, NC October 31 at 3 PM. Where will he fly in from?
https://wcti12.com/news/local/donald-tr ... greenville
He's evidently in North Carolina for the day since he is due to be in Concord, NC for a 6:30 PM event: https://www.wbtv.com/2024/10/15/trump-i ... next-week/
So the question may be changing to: Where will he be the day before, on October 20? So far, I can't find anything on that. I've also lost track of where he is living most of the time these days: Is he back in Florida, staying in-town NYC, or at the NJ golf club?
I'm more concerned with his Election Eve SLR location, though the October 21 demi is important, too.
This article says he will be in Greenville, NC October 31 at 3 PM. Where will he fly in from?
https://wcti12.com/news/local/donald-tr ... greenville
He's evidently in North Carolina for the day since he is due to be in Concord, NC for a 6:30 PM event: https://www.wbtv.com/2024/10/15/trump-i ... next-week/
So the question may be changing to: Where will he be the day before, on October 20? So far, I can't find anything on that. I've also lost track of where he is living most of the time these days: Is he back in Florida, staying in-town NYC, or at the NJ golf club?
I'm more concerned with his Election Eve SLR location, though the October 21 demi is important, too.
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According to his website, he will be hosting a townhall in Lancaster, PA at 5pm on 20th. He has also canceled 2 events in the last 24 hours, so I can't help but feel his schedule is up in the air somewhat.
https://event.donaldjtrump.com/events/p ... 1729192436
https://event.donaldjtrump.com/events/p ... 1729192436
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It does seem like his campaign is trying to keep him hidden. I don't think he's doing so hot.
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Even though Vegas thinks he's been surging and heading way ahead of Harris. (He has Jupiter transits at the moment.)
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It appears he is leaving tonight, after the rally he is apparently going to the steelers game.
This TFR covers that https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_1067.html
I think this subsequent TFR for Laguardia must be him as the times work perfectly: https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_1117.html
This has him in New York from around midnight to 10 am, which also works with his schedule in North Carolina the next day.
So, if that's the case, he is in the Manhattan area for his Demi SLR.
As an aside, maybe it's aneffect of needing to be in more northerly swing states, but he seems to be going to New York more than Florida lately. Maybe he won't be at Mar-a-lago on election eve.
This TFR covers that https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_1067.html
I think this subsequent TFR for Laguardia must be him as the times work perfectly: https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_1117.html
This has him in New York from around midnight to 10 am, which also works with his schedule in North Carolina the next day.
So, if that's the case, he is in the Manhattan area for his Demi SLR.
As an aside, maybe it's aneffect of needing to be in more northerly swing states, but he seems to be going to New York more than Florida lately. Maybe he won't be at Mar-a-lago on election eve.
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Re: Donald Trump's SLRs
That could be. His Election Eve SLR isn't all that different in aspects but had nothing terribly close. But if (for example) you drop out the widest (Class 3) angularities it has only modest foreground orbs for natal Sun and Mercury - nothing else. (The other aspects count, they're just weak.)alinda wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2024 4:36 pm As an aside, maybe it's aneffect of needing to be in more northerly swing states, but he seems to be going to New York more than Florida lately. Maybe he won't be at Mar-a-lago on election eve.
Though I'd like to know if he's staying in the city or riding an hour to get back to New Jersey. it's a minor difference but perhaps important. For example, the Election Eve SLR also has natal Moon moderately foreground which plays up his strong natal Moon-Sun aspect. It's not as obvious what to make of that as his Florida chart, but it's a stronger showing than just the modest Sun and Mercury in Manhattan.
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Re: Demi-SLR 10/21/24
Based on Alinda's research, he's returning to LaGuardia late tonight and evidently will be there at the time his Demi-SLR sets up. It's not clear to me whether he is staying in town, at Trump Tower, or riding the hour or so to his golf club in New Jersey.Jim Eshelman wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 9:46 am Donald Trump's Demi-SLR - his last lunar until the evening before Election Day - occurs next Monday, October 21, at 5:28 AM EDT. Where will we wake up next Monday morning?
In either case, it isn't a friendly or stable fortnight, though the confusion and instability is coming especially from him. At the very least, he ramps up the amount of lying and theatrical speechmaking (as hard as that seems).
If he is at Trump Tower, here is the chart:
r Mercury MC -2°17'
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r Neptune Asc +0°19'
t Neptune Dsc +9°05'
r Mercury-Neptune sq 2°36' M
If PVP aspects are valid in SLRs, add:
t Neptune-Jupiter sq 0°33' p
t Neptune sq r Neptune 0°47' p
There are three non-foreground partile aspects, the nicest being transiting Sun square his Venus, the least nice being transiting Mars conjunct his Saturn, and the middle one being transiting Mercury square his Pluto.
If he goes to his club in Bedminster, the chart is basically the same. Natal Neptune is 0°14' before Asc, natal Mercury 2°58' before MC, and the orb of their square only slightly wider.
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Re: Demi-SLR 10/21/24
I just posted this on the Mundane Astrologers Facebook page.
Donald Trump Demi-SLR (Sidereal Demi-Lunar Return) Oct 21, 2024, 5:28 AM EDT, calculated for Trump Tower 40N45'45" 73W58'26"
Trump has been in Pittsburgh today and reportedly is staying to watch the Steelers game. His schedule and posted flight restrictions for that area and LaGuardia interlock nicely, suggesting he is landing in NYC about midnight and won't leave until mid-morning. I don't know if he's been staying in town (at Trump Tower) or riding the hour or so to his golf club in New Jersey - it would be useful to know that before Election Eve when his next (and critical) full lunar return occurs. In any case, for this demi-lunar it makes no practical difference.
The chart below is calculated for Trump Tower. It's really simple: His Mercury-Neptune square is on the angles. (Natal Neptune is 0°19' off Ascendant, natal Mercury 2°+ off MC.) The only other foreground planet is transiting Neptune, barely foreground near Descendant.
Everything Trump's natal Mercury-Neptune square means is the hallmark of the next two weeks. As hard as it is to believe, he lies more and uses more theatrical speechmaking. It may show his cognitive patterns shifting a bit. It also shows an increasing pattern of anxiety and uncertainty, magnifying trivialities, fixating on strange things. Anything that can be summarized by enthrallment, deception, and the disconnect between reason and unreason... that's on his plate.
Mars precisely conjoins his Saturn in the 10th house. It's not in the foreground - not one of the strongest, most expressed things in the chart - but it's the second strongest and, besides, he gets the transit anyway. It's not nice for him and, if it finds a voice, will tend to call out the skeletons hiding in his closets (just in time for Halloween, of course).
As he moves around the country for the next two weeks, other patterns will overlay this - not contradicting it but, rather, adding further themes unique to a specific place. Presuming he does indeed fly back to NYC tonight, the chart below will persist until a new full lunar return replaces late on November 4.
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SLR 11/4/2024
So now we come to the end: Donald Trump has a new lunar return November 4, 2024, 7:37 PM EST. If he is in Mar-a-Lago when this sets up (and, to a lesser extent, after it sets up), it is one of the finest, happiest return charts you've ever seen. The important questions are:
The time has come to track his expected movements... three days from now.
- Where will he be Monday night at 7:37 PM EST when this set up?
- Where will he be on Election Day?
The time has come to track his expected movements... three days from now.
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Re: SLR 11/4/2024
Some initial findings: He'll be in Pittsburgh sometime Monday. It seems this is daytime, but doesn't say clearly: https://www.wpxi.com/news/local/former- ... 42ITL2ISM/
It seems to be Pennsylvania day for him. He's also in Reading. This article is talking about parking restrictions but I can't get past the paywall for details: https://www.readingeagle.com/2024/10/30 ... trictions/
It does look like he goes to Florida after, though we don't know when that will be. This says the campaign is planning a part in Florida Tuesday night: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 806862007/
It seems to be Pennsylvania day for him. He's also in Reading. This article is talking about parking restrictions but I can't get past the paywall for details: https://www.readingeagle.com/2024/10/30 ... trictions/
It does look like he goes to Florida after, though we don't know when that will be. This says the campaign is planning a part in Florida Tuesday night: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 806862007/
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This says his last event will be in Grand Rapids. This one looks like a evening event, which would make him being in that area seem likely. Though with trump it’s impossible to tell if he will be en route from somewhere an hour late. https://www.mlive.com/politics/2024/11/ ... utType=amp