2023 - TERRIBLE SSR

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So, I spent all day at the peace museum, and watching and learning more about Japanese culture, you can tell what they prioritize. The exhibit was just painful. Very Venus/Saturn. Heartbreaking, disfigurement, so much loss, yet at the end there was messages of hope. The park itself was beautiful, the peace dome was lovely as well. I cried profusely.
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Venus, it seems this trip is a very powerful experience for you :)
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Venus_Daily wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 12:30 am So, I spent all day at the peace museum, and watching and learning more about Japanese culture, you can tell what they prioritize. The exhibit was just painful. Very Venus/Saturn. Heartbreaking, disfigurement, so much loss, yet at the end there was messages of hope. The park itself was beautiful, the peace dome was lovely as well. I cried profusely.
My nephew and his squad had a similar reaction, part of his Marines deployment was first to Hiroshima ( since Japan cannot have a military of their own) and then they went to Pearl Harbor. Truly touching experiences that he Carries with him everyday.

Did you know that one of the way the body rids itself of toxins is through tears? That's why we always need to let them flow so we can release them and keep moving on.

I hope you are vitally refreshed and ready for your new beautiful SSR and more wonders on your birthday adventure. Happy Solar return to you Venus!!
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Thank you, my SSR doesn't happen until 7/8 PM JP local time. I Don think I've had tr. Moon/Venus in a base ssr chart since the late 90s. What makes this so special is that it's partile and less than a degree from the WP with it aspectimg the WP in less than a degree. Maybe something good will happen, who knows?
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If you capture the exact location (e.g. with a GPS app), let us know so we can give you a very carefully drawn chart.

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Latitude: 34.386352 / N 34° 23' 10.868''
Longitude: 132.462107 / E 132° 27' 43.586''

THANKS, Jim. These seem to be my current coordinates, not too far off from central.
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Venus_Daily wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 4:59 pm Latitude: 34.386352 / N 34° 23' 10.868''
Longitude: 132.462107 / E 132° 27' 43.586''

THANKS, Jim. These seem to be my current coordinates, not too far off from central.
I think it's time for a new thread - a new NOT TERRIBLE SSR :) - and you might want to start by copying this:

Sep 4, 2024, 7:40:59 PM JST, Hiroshima, Japan 34N23'11 132E27'44"

t Moon WP-a -0°31'
t Venus WP-a -0°21'

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r Venus Dsc +2°37'
t Neptune Asc +5°51'
r Jupiter MC +6°17'


t Moon-Venus co 0°10' (in RA) [0°35' M]
t Moon co r Venus 0°53' M
t Neptune sq r Jupiter 0°26' M

t Venus co r Venus 1°28' M
r Venus-Jupiter sq 1°42'
t Neptune op r Venus 3°14' M

OTHER PARTILE ASPECTS
t Neptune sq r Neptune 0°17'
t Mars-Saturn sq 0°25' M
t Pluto sq r Pluto 0°51'
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Thanks, Jim. So glad that Mars-Saturn is background, probably significant of grinding at work. More responsibility, and more incentive to increase my health. I think that Venus/Venus conj is also operative, just not partile. Over the past decade, I've been able to dig myself out of a really large hole and persevere despite doing it kicking and screaming. I was able to make so many new friends this past year. Hopefully. This return shows my friend circle growing and an increased popularity when Jupiter crosses my Venuses later this year.
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I'm just wondering, should I be doing anything differently for this return? People argue that the subconscious mind does not exist, but after everything I've seen with synchronicity and astrology, I know it does.This does feel like it may be an outstanding SSR. Who knows.
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The return doesn't require anything special in order to be effective. On the other hand, if you were prompted to do something meditative or to increase your receptivity, trust yourself.
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Well, my SLR happened last night in my sleep. Sucks because it appears to be really potent, I know the last one with Venus losely foreground happened the same day. I've been really trying to use positive thinking and putting myself out there but nothing. I guess secretly, I really did wanna meet someone this year.
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Jim Eshelman wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 5:52 pm Where are you?
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Venus_Daily wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 5:47 pm Well, my SLR happened last night in my sleep. Sucks because it appears to be really potent, I know the last one with Venus losely foreground happened the same day. I've been really trying to use positive thinking and putting myself out there but nothing. I guess secretly, I really did wanna meet someone this year.
I'm confused by a couple of things. First, I'm not clear what your new lunar return has to do with "this year," since it only lasts a month. Second, this is a fantastic SLR for Venus matters.

Transiting Veus is 0°02' from IC for your home city. It squares your Moon ecliptically and squares a setting Pluto. This is a month with a lot of potential for romantic encounters.

Am I missing something in the story?
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Jim Eshelman wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2024 8:12 am
Venus_Daily wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 5:47 pm Well, my SLR happened last night in my sleep. Sucks because it appears to be really potent, I know the last one with Venus losely foreground happened the same day. I've been really trying to use positive thinking and putting myself out there but nothing. I guess secretly, I really did wanna meet someone this year.
I'm confused by a couple of things. First, I'm not clear what your new lunar return has to do with "this year," since it only lasts a month. Second, this is a fantastic SLR for Venus matters.

Transiting Veus is 0°02' from IC for your home city. It squares your Moon ecliptically and squares a setting Pluto. This is a month with a lot of potential for romantic encounters.

Am I missing something in the story?
Thanks, Jim. Sorry for thr confusion, but with everything so angular and Mars closely squaring Venus, I thought things would manifest much sooner if at all. I'm on dating apps, I'm really going out of my way to meet new people and be kind to anyone and everyone, and the only people who appear to be impressed are married men over 50, who happen to be my patients, which happens all the time. I've downloaded even more dating apps, so who knows.
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Not to tell you what to do, but I wanted you to know I have not heard any good words from other women with any of the free apps, lots of bad words and dark drama but nothing good...yet I have heard of great luck using professional dating services like match that charge you a fee. The science behind that should be obvious in that if a person is actively paying money to a service to help make connections the person has a bottom line interest in finding one so they can stop paying the fees. It helps filter out many people who are only looking to get lucky so to speak, and not earnestly interested in long term meaningful connection.
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Veronica wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2024 4:21 pm Not to tell you what to do, but I wanted you to know I have not heard any good words from other women with any of the free apps, lots of bad words and dark drama but nothing good...yet I have heard of great luck using professional dating services like match that charge you a fee. The science behind that should be obvious in that if a person is actively paying money to a service to help make connections the person has a bottom line interest in finding one so they can stop paying the fees. It helps filter out many people who are only looking to get lucky so to speak, and not earnestly interested in long term meaningful connection.
Dating apps are atrocious.
I wish I could meet a nice man like most of the women around me. One of my coworkers just had a man make a serious declaration of courtship at our place of work. The rest of my coworkers met their partners at the gym, at the grocery store, at work..I've even tried just talking to krn and making conversations but nothing. I'm so ashamed. Secondary progressed Moon is rapidly moving away from its conjunction to Venus, and I can't help but thi k it's just me.
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Well, for years now I have listened to your strange posts that just seem to be not in any sort of alignment with your Solunars, it is very weird to me how you just don't seem to resonate with certain charts. when i look at your chart it makes me wonder if for some people things like trines and sextiles are more operative, of if maybe you respond and resonate with say your mars return charts or even your Saturn return chart, it seems to me that the aspects we experience are actually just a part of a bigger cycle. You did recently have your Venus return. maybe you can get some insight about you in that chart that will be meaningful to your Solonar's? I think astrology is holistic and each person has to be their own dr so to speak, and accept that one size does not fit all and we need to be open to consider other non traditional avenues for exploration into our self growth and integration with the larger cultural consciousness that we live in.
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Venus_Daily wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2024 7:29 am Secondary progressed Moon is rapidly moving away from its conjunction to Venus, and I can't help but think it's just me.
I must be missing something. I have your secondary progressed Moon 25°45' Taurus at the moment, not even close to aspecting your natal Vens 10°22' Virgo or progressed Venus 29°23' Libra.

There's is a lot of Moon-Venus-Venus in your new solar return, but not in your natal or progressed natal.

BTW, remember how last year's SSR was so strong with Jupiter - during the course of the year you remarked at different periods that Jupiter stuff wasn't working right, and then it was up and down, and then - at the end of the year - you were "Wow, this has been a really great Jupiter year!"? The promise of the solar return is that the year, taken as a whole, will match the chart. Your new year is just beginning!

I also suspected there was something grumbly and depressive touching your chart this week. Saturn is creeping back to oppose your Sun for a while (and it's Saturn-Pluto semi-square in space that is near your Sun). Neptune is still toying with you. I am confident the year as a whole will shake out the way you want, but there's a pretty good chance you'll feel blocked and frustrated during Saturn's retrograde loop around your Sun. This moves out of orb the first week of January just as Jupiter begins to square you Sun. This doesn't mean everything until New Years will be awful, but that you have some things to do between now and then - maybe some kind of internal "house cleaning" and managing restrictions and frustrations better. Finding other things that give pleasure. Once Saturn is clear, the rest of the year looks pretty sweet.
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Jim Eshelman wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:05 am I must be missing something. I have your secondary progressed Moon 25°45' Taurus at the moment, not even close to aspecting your natal Vens 10°22' Virgo or progressed Venus 29°23' Libra.
I meant, SSR progressed. Sorry for the confusion.

I've been feeling very depressed since I returned from Japan. I have natal Venus in some parts of Japan, and I'm thinking of securing an external source of income to be able to move in the future. It was the best place I've traveled to so far.

I guess this SLR maybe being a dumb note has also made me depressed. My friend at work, who just got out of a chaotic relationship a month ago is already being courted by a high ranking health executive she met on our floor. I guess it's just little things like that. This is the most I've been putting myself out there and making myself vulnerable.
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Yes, I hadn't noticed that southern Japan gives you a beautiful Venus Midheaven line. It's already close at Hiroshima and grows stronger as you move south (or, specifically, as you move west, which means going south). Fukuoka is down there, though I don't know anything about it.

It's clear that this trio had a powerful impact on you. I'm so glad you took it. Living under a Venus line is an entirely different feel than I've encountered anywhere else and I love it.

Hang in there. It's a brand new year!
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Jim Eshelman wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:53 am Hang in there. It's a brand new year
Thank You, Jim. It is a new year@ 9/25 is my new Demi, so, I assume the base SLR is probably over. This one is a lot breaker with Pluto rising and natal Saturn exactly on the Mc.
The only thing I can say about the base SLR was that I felt sick, weak. I also felt depressed, very lonely. SA Ven is getting closer to Moon/Sun Midpoint. It's within the 30 minute applying orb. So, who knows.
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Jim Eshelman wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:53 am Yes, I hadn't noticed that southern Japan gives you a beautiful Venus Midheaven line. It's already close at Hiroshima and grows stronger as you move south (or, specifically, as you move west, which means going south). Fukuoka is down there, though I don't know anything about it.

It's clear that this trio had a powerful impact on you. I'm so glad you took it. Living under a Venus line is an entirely different feel than I've encountered anywhere else and I love it.

Hang in there. It's a brand new year!
I think my SLR probably manifested today in a hugely disappointing and sad way. Let's just say, I had to cut off contact with my mother's sister for her incessant lies. It's been a long time coming. She's a Libra Sun/ Scorpio Moin, and she embodies everything everything pathological about the pair. Maybe romance isn't the cards.
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Nothing really exciting or noteworthy has happened except for the usual Natal Venus in the foreground stuff, being showered with compliments but never being good enough to date. If it's not my hair, it's my skin, but the most compliments I get are on my voice. From both patients and coworkers, oddly enough mostly from women. I'm in a better space than I was few weeks ago.
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It is better being 'showered with compliments' than not....
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No new updates really. As this month comes to a close, no new updates really. I started a new weight loss peptide two weeks ago. Still with the depression. It got worse yesterday. It kind of comes in waves. I guess a patient said something extremely rude to me about my appearance, and it just made me realize that I'm 40, my mother is almost 70 and in bad health, and I'll probably be alone forever. Maybe I'll have more luck next reincarnation.
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Well, today, I put the wheels into motion. I think this may be the Moon/Venus symbolism behind my SSR. I have a consultation with a plastic surgeon in January.

It very much sucks, today my cousin is getting married under a Libra new Moon at the age of 42 to a 36 year man that is very well off. This is the same cousin whose Gemini Moon is exactly opposite my Natal Moon. She also has a Capricorn Moon. She is a terrible person, manipulative, and from a Leo/Sagittarius luminary, combination, I can say that she's not very attractive both physically and personality wise.

Anyway, I'm excited and scared about these upcoming procedures. I figure that I'm done trying to invest in others, situations, and men that do not want me.
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Update: Saturn Stationary had me feeling very sad. I don't know why, but I started a new weight loss medication, one of those GLP1s, to help lose weight, and overall, it's helped my mood a lot.

I'm closer to reaching my financial goal for plastic surgery, I love my new job, and I give thanks to God every single day and this forum for guiding me to it. Even though it wasn't shown in the Lunar Return, 2023's SSR reflected a high degree of synchronicity in both professional and romantic matters. Now that I've felt more independent, I've been able to cut out toxic relationships from family and friends that were serving no purpose over the last several months. My 2024 LuniSolar also appeared to be a catalyst for the romantic events that occurred in 2024, and 2025's seems to be dead except for the fact that it's moon is almost exactly opposite my SSR moon/Venus Conjunction. It does feature Jupiter exactly on the Westpoint. I wish I could travel for it, for experiementation purposes, but my schedule is made up.

Anywhoo, I am also wondering when a good time would be for plastic surgery or if the next few SSRs reflect that. Unless it happens this ssr cycle


2025: Locally, Moon/Venus on the IC. Venus exactly square natal Saturn, which is not good for disfigurement. Jupiter partile square Mars. If I return to Japan, this will be right over my natal moon in the foreground.

2026: Jupiter exalted in Can can be pushed to the Dsc square radical Saturn, a bit closer this time, exactly but Moon makes an exact square to Natal Venus/Transiting Neptune and goes onto square Tr. Saturn, eventually. Jupiter will also be exactly square my Natal Sun/Moon Midpoint. Don't know if that's operative.

2027 seems magnificent. The only place that directly puts both Jupiter on both the superior angles, Jupiter on the MC & Uranus on the Dsc is Phuket. In the Americas, only Uranus can be pushed to the Asc while Jupiter remains on the Zenith. The october 7th return seems to repeat the SSR themes with Jupiter and Uranus on the Mc/Dsc locally. In mundo, only 2 and a half degrees from a rotational square.
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