Donald Trump's SLRs

[Jim Eshelman]

Wow, that would be a surprise ending! Grand Rapids, MI (regrettably, in my opinion) is one of the finest locations he could have picked for the SLR November 4, 2024, 7:37 PM EST:

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      Long     Lat   Speed    RA     Dec    Azi     Alt      ML     PVL    Ang  
                               Transiting Planets                                
Ur  0Ta39'12"  0S16 - 2'26"  53°29' 18N56  79° 2' +16°16' 176°49' 343°27' 100% E 
Ju 25Ta 4'29"  0S43 - 5' 9"  79°21' 22N22  59°43' + 0°58' 179°31' 358°53' 100% A 
Ve 26Sc51' 0"  1S56 + 1°12' 261° 6' 25S 7 236°40' - 1°54' 358°57' 177°43'  99% D 
Mo 27Sc12'59"  5S 2 +12°32' 261°17' 28S14 234°26' - 4° 5' 357°37' 174°59'  94% D 
Me  7Sc58'14"  2S18 + 1°22' 240°32' 23S 2 251°22' -13°57' 355°28' 165°18'  86% Wa
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                                 Radical Planets                                 
Mo 27Sc12'58"  0S 2 +11°52' 261°37' 23S15 237°35' - 0°12' 359°53' 179°45' 100% D 
Su 28Ta56'27"  0S 0 +57'17"  83°30' 23N18  56°16' - 0°54' 180°30'   1° 5' 100% A 
Ur 23Ta54'20"  0N 3 + 3'32"  78° 2' 23N 2  60° 9' + 2°18' 178°51' 357°21'  98% A 
Ma  2Le47'18"  1N16 +33'29" 150°30' 13N24 357°30' -33°37' 213°35'  93°45'  97% I 
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tMe op tUr  1°52'  96% M  
tVe op tJu  1°10'  99% M  
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tMo op rUr  2°22'  94% M  
tVe co rMo  0°22' 100%                                                        
tVe op rSu  2° 5'  95%                                                        
tVe op rUr  0°22' 100% M                                                      
tJu op rMo  0°52'  99% M                                                      
tJu co rSu  2°12'  95% M                                                      
tJu co rUr  1°10'  99%                                                        
tUr sq rMa  2° 8'  91%                                                        
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rMo op rSu  1°20'  98% M                                                      
rMo op rUr  2°24'  94% M                                                      
rSu sq rMa  2°40'  86% M                                                      
rSu co rUr  3°44'  85% M

[Arena]

WOW, this could not be better! The stars are working with him.

Sometimes we may have to simply look at facts. In this case it really seems like the Universe or the planetary alignments are choosing Trump. He has the planets working with him in a much stronger/benefic way than Kamala has. If that is the case, it might also turn out for the whole nation to be a much better choice this time around. If the Universe is working with him, it has already been written in the stars. IF his victory ignites the deep state to do something horrible to undermine your democracy, then it's time for the US nation to wake up and take action to defend your democracy. It may be written in the stars.

Trump has not displayed to your nation that he imposes any danger at all. I used to think before he was elected the last time that it was terrible - and it was partly because of some bull..it propaganda that I now know was simply untrue. We have already witnessed one term, and he showed you that he wants your nation to be peaceful on the international scene. That's very positive for the rest of us, the world outside the US is also affected. He wants to negotiate instead of going to wars all over the place. I truly believe he can help bring about a peace deal with Russia and Ukraine. Not sure about Israel though.

Your economy was much better off with him in charge. That also matters for the rest of us, not just citizens of the US. He wants to put a lot of effort into your health system. Do you know that nowhere else in the whole wide world is BIG Pharma allowed so much power as to advertise? It matters, for all of you. He wants to protect your constitution (which is a HUGE deal). It's a HUGE deal also for the rest of us, it is a HUGE deal to protect your rights to bear arms to defend your nation if it comes to civil war or to a military coup by the deep state (which is real and a danger to us all). He wants to work with very successful excellent people. He has no interest in being a dictator like the press has tried to demonise him. So even though I don't have to agree with him on all things, these things matter and of the two candidates, he might actually be an important figure in your history if he can manage this.

[Jim Eshelman]

We have known from the beginning thst this SLR us stunningly positive. The challenge is thst it is at odds with almost every other reliable chart either of them has for election or inauguration.

It's possible thst he is elected and not inaugurated. Thst, however, is stranger than the idea that he thinks he wins and it turns out he doesn't.

My prediction from the beginning is that he goes to bed Tuesday night certain he won (and most people agree with him); but that's not the end of the story.

[alinda]

Grand Rapids, MI (regrettably, in my opinion) is one of the finest locations he could have picked for the SLR

Well thankfully they just updated his website with the event schedule. He four rally's scheduled for the 4th. The last in Pennsylvania is at 6pm. He won't go on immediately and he always talks forever, so he would almost assuredly still be Pittsburg or nearby for his SLR.


The event in Grand Rapids doesn't start until 1030pm. I'd guess he will still be there at midnight at midnight Election Day.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/events/

[Mike V]

The Pittsburgh chart is still a very positive chart, but not quite as positive. The main differences between that and Grand Rapids seem to be:

• Generally less angular benefics (though they're still closely angular)
• No nice, close PVP aspects from t. Sun (if those are valid anyway) - the PVP aspects in this chart have very wide orbs
• The introduction of t. Neptune on Zenith
• Neptune is also mundanely square his Venus half a degree outside the foreground. This is not present in Michigan. This certainly leads one to feeling like their dreams are coming true... but that doesn't mean that they are.

It's still too positive for me to be very comfortable.

[alinda]

Looking at the TFRs...

The restrictions for the Pittsburgh area extend from November 04, 2024 at 1800 EST to November 04, 2024 at 2200 EST which puts him there for his SLR.

Grand Rapids extends to November 05, 2024 at 0200 EST

The TFR for Palm Beach is from November 05, 2024 at 0130 EST to November 06, 2024 at 1430 EST

[Jim Eshelman]

For Pittsburgh. (More to follow tomorrow.)

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      Long     Lat   Speed    RA     Dec    Azi     Alt      ML     PVL    Ang  
                               Transiting Planets                                
Me  7Sc58'14"  2S18 + 1°22' 240°32' 23S 2 254° 7' -17°15' 355° 9' 162° 6'  97% W 
Ju 25Ta 4'29"  0S43 - 5' 9"  79°21' 22N22  63°20' + 3°29' 178°26' 356° 6'  96% A 
Ve 26Sc51' 0"  1S56 + 1°12' 261° 6' 25S 7 240°13' - 4°12' 357°55' 175°10'  94% D 
Ne  2Pi20'30"  1S19 - 1' 2" 358°10'  2S14 146°41' +41°58'  36°56' 301°25'  93% Z 
Mo 27Sc12'59"  5S 2 +12°32' 261°17' 28S14 237°49' - 6°12' 356°41' 172°41'  87% D 
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                                 Radical Planets                                 
Mo 27Sc12'58"  0S 2 +11°52' 261°37' 23S15 241°15' - 2°34' 358°46' 177° 4'  98% D 
Su 28Ta56'27"  0S 0 +57'17"  83°30' 23N18  60° 1' + 1°22' 179°19' 358°26'  99% A 
Ma  2Le47'18"  1N16 +33'29" 150°30' 13N24   4°16' -36° 4' 215°59'  84°11'  91% I 
Ur 23Ta54'20"  0N 3 + 3'32"  78° 2' 23N 2  63°40' + 4°51' 177°51' 354°36'  93% A 
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tVe op tJu  0°56'  99% M   
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tMo sq rMa  1°30'  96% M   
tMo op rUr  1°55'  96% M   
tVe co rMo  0°22' 100%                                                        
tVe op rSu  2° 5'  95%                                                        
tVe sq rMa  0°59'  98% M                                                      
tVe op rUr  0°34' 100% M                                                      
tJu op rMo  0°58'  99% M                                                      
tJu co rSu  2°20'  94% M                                                      
tJu sq rMa  1°55'  93% M                                                      
tJu co rUr  1°10'  99%                                                        
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rMo op rSu  1°22'  98% M                                                      
rMo sq rMa  2°53'  84% M                                                      
rMo op rUr  2°28'  93% M                                                      
rSu co rUr  3°50'  84% M                                                      
rMa sq rUr  0°25' 100% M

[Venus_Daily]

I also remember that the SLR is way more flexible than the SSR in terms of locality.

[Jim Eshelman]

Here is the SLR for November 4, 2024, 7:37:09 PM EST, Pittsburgh, PA:

t Neptune Z -1°25'
t Mercury WP -1°00'
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r Sun Asc +1°34'
r Moon Dsc +2°56' [t Moon Dsc +7°19']
t Jupiter Asc +3°54'
t Venus Dsc +4°50'
r Uranus Asc +5°24'
r Mars IC +5°49'

Spotlight = 11
Dignity = 8, Indignity = 3
Benefic = 8, Malefic = 5
Change = 3

t Venus co r Moon 0°22'
r Mars-Uranus sq 0°25' M
t Venus op r Uranus 0°34' M
t Venus-Jupiter op 0°56'
t Jupiter op r Moon 0°58' M
t Venus sq r Mars 0°59' M
t Jupiter co r Uranus 1°10'
r Moon-Sun op 1°22' M
t Moon-Mars sq 1°30' M [r Moon-Mars sq 2°53' M]
t Moon op r Uranus 1°55' M [r Moon-Uranus op 2°28' M]
t Jupiter sq r Mars 1°55' M
t Venus op r Sun 2°05'
t Jupiter co r Sun 2°20' M
r Sun-Uranus co 3°50' M

[Jim Eshelman]

I just posted this on the mundane astrologers Facebook page:

Donald Trump SLR (Sidereal Lunar Return) November 4, 2024, 7:37:09 PM EST, Pittsburgh, PA

Donald Trump will still be in Pittsburgh when this return sets up Later, he will fly to Grand Rapids for his last rally of the campaign and then is expected to return to Mar-a-Lago where a victory party is planned for tomorrow night. The chart will take on the characteristics of wherever he moves within the next two to four weeks, though the original location - the chart as it first sets up - will be a 'permanent' factor for its duration.

If this were the only chart we used, I would race to predict a Trump victory. It's a solidly winning chart. (It gets even better in Grand Rapids and Mar-a-Lago. We have expected a bowl-them-over election eve major chart from the beginning.

In my original August 18 forecast of the election, I wrote in part:, "Presuming he is at Mar-a-Lago, it is a spectacularly positive chart... He's happy as can be! There's more to the chart (some Mercury), but nothing that affects the basic conclusion that this is a spectacularly positive chart."

Why, then, have I not predicted his victory? It's because so much else is against him astrologically. Besides his solar arcs being devastating and his secondary progressions morbid, his lunar returns for January - for inauguration - where we have always known the winner would be located on January 20 - are morbid. Against that, Harris has a great new solar return, a strong, upbeat lunar return, and a demi-lunar more fretful and still more positive than not.

So, back to Trump's SLR: It shows enormous limelight (with all four luminaries near angles), great dignity compared to indignity (with two Suns and a Jupiter angular vs. one Neptune). By angularity, it is only slightly more positive than negative, although by angular aspects it is stunningly positive. A partile Venus-Jupiter opposition near angles is exactly on his Moon and near his Sun, Uranus, and Mars. For a single chart, it can't get much better for exaltation and victory in competition.

The closest angular planets are: transiting Mercury and Moon, and natal Sun and Moon. The more widely angular planets (moderate) are transiting Neptune, Venus, and Jupiter, and natal Uranus and Mars.

It's not perfect, though. Things drag it down a little. Others show enough threat to warrant tightening his security, some kind of sense of emergency. But overall, it is exciting, positive, and triumphant.

Tomorrow night he will be certain he won. He will be honestly celebrating. Many of us (most of us?) may agree with him. However, I believe he will be wrong. I think we'll know for sure about November 17.

Against this, we have his January charts that show him at one of the lowest points of his entire life in mid-January and especially on January 20. Make of all that what you will. (Right or wrong, my balance sheet and forecast are on record.)

[Arena]

Jim, do you think you might be predicting that the elections will be rigged again? They will drag out the counting process and then have some kind of rigging done in the counting machines - or do you think you're predicting a military/government coup within your own country?

[Jim Eshelman]

Jim, do you think you might be predicting that the elections will be rigged again? They will drag out the counting process and then have some kind of rigging done in the counting machines - or do you think you're predicting a military/government coup within your own country?

At least the post-election surely will be attacked. Trump has been setting things up for weeks. laying the groundwork he'll use to challenge or deny the outcome if he loses.

I think the election system is much more secure than in the past and probably will turn most results over faster; but the November 13 Arilunar has the same Mercury-Saturn aspect that dominated the "hanging chad" returns in 2000 so there could still be delays.

Both Harris and Trump charts reach a kind of climax on November 16-17. Simultaneously, the U.S. ingresses become explosive, probably radically violent. I think the most likely scenario is that it is clear and widely accepted on November 16 that despite early appearances Harris has won, and then on Sunday, November 17 there is some sort of violent backlash.

I don't think there will be a coup, but I think there will be a threat of a coup by the radical right or of something resembling a coup.

(I haven't finished the forecast for the new month beginning November 7, so I might refine that a bit in the appropriate thread; but that's how the charts look at the moment.)

The new Caplunar shows it will be a painful, perhaps tragic month for the U.S. It does seem, though, that we have certainty of having a new president selected by November 19 when the Canlunar has Sun 0°10' from an angle.

[Arena]

I hope the general public will not be hurt en masse. But I'm also afraid there will be some kind of power grab. I don't know if it will be a military coup or not. But there will be violence.

Strategically, the far right is unlikely to be able to manage a coup. They don't have the military with them. Those in power now are more likely to do it since they have the whole military industrial complex on their side, and the complex wants Harris in the white house. They do not want Trump, since he doesn't want their endless wars. They've already changed the law of your country so that they can use your own military against citizens with lethal force. This is highly dangerous.

[Jim Eshelman]

Those in power now will not do it.

[Jim Eshelman]

Here is the SLR for November 4, 2024, 7:37:09 PM EST, Pittsburgh, PA:

I have a report that he exited the Pittsburgh rally at 7:35 PM - meaning he was still there two minutes later.

[Arena]

Those in power now will not do it.

Those in power now are the deep state.
Now we will witness what they will do or not do. We don't yet know. There might be a showdown in the aftermath. Almost three months for the deep state to play their game before inauguration. I hope US citizens will be safe.

[SteveS]

Arena, USA’s 34th President Dwight D. Eisenhower, a former military General, after he left office warned:

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

Trump promised on his interview with Joe Rogan if elected Prez he was going to fully open the JFK files that has been hidden from the American people for over 50 years.

[Mike V]

He has promised a great deal of stuff which never happened. I don’t expect this to happen either.

[Veronica]

Arena, USA’s 34th President Dwight D. Eisenhower, a former military General, after he left office warned:

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

Trump promised on his interview with Joe Rogan if elected Prez he was going to fully open the JFK files that has been hidden from the American people for over 50 years.

Thanks for that quote Steve, I like it very much.
It resonated with me that it could be interpreted almost like a prescription for achieving and maintaining homeostasis or personal harmony and equilibrium…our organs akin to a council of government, toxins bacteria viruses akin to MIC and what happens to us physiologically and biologically when those accumulate in our being. Very wise words indeed.

[Venus_Daily]

Well, everyone, Kenneth's predictions were right. Trump won both popular and electorate votes.

This is the legacy of his signature Mars conjunct rising Regulus. Slander and Malignment only made this man stronger.

[Arena]

And my predictions About Biden's withdrawal/fallout and about Trumps victory. It could be seen with using the most simple methods without looking at return charts.

Now, let's see if my predictions about the aftermath will also be right.
This story is not "over" yet. The deep state will try to play a part.
A peaceful transfer of power has not happened yet. Be safe.

[Venus_Daily]

Hey, Arena, I agree, and we all saw Joe's withdrawal, but I do think Kamala did exceptionally well and almost beat Trump. For someone without an established long term presence in DC, she almost took it. We probably getting closer to having a female president. I say this not even being a Harris fan.

Look up Trumps inauguration SLR for Washington, it is not good at all.

[Mike V]

For someone without an established long term presence in DC, she almost took it. We probably getting closer to having a female president.

Unfortunately, I have to disagree. She got absolutely demolished, far worse than Hillary did. The last time Republicans won the popular vote in my lifetime was after 9/11, when we "rallied around the flag." New Jersey, a Democratic stronghold, was something like +3 Harris.

[Mike V]

What I take from all of this is that, primarily, SLRs must be so overwhelmingly powerful that they can bury what seems like an insurmountable pile of contradictory factors... at least while they're active.

[SteveS]

Arena wrote:

And my predictions About Biden's withdrawal/fallout and about Trumps victory. It could be seen with using the most simple methods without looking at return charts.

Yes, kudos on your predictions Arena. Harris SSR angular Jup-Ur certainly fooled me thinking it could possibly be predicting a “Thank You Lord” winning aspect for her, but your observation that this aspect may be symbolizing a “Thank You Lord” this Prez Election for her is finally over certainly has merit now, since no one came close seeing symbolism predicting she would lose so badly.

[Venus_Daily]

Arena wrote:

And my predictions About Biden's withdrawal/fallout and about Trumps victory. It could be seen with using the most simple methods without looking at return charts.

Yes, kudos on your predictions Arena. Harris SSR angular Jup-Ur certainly fooled me thinking it could possibly be predicting a “Thank You Lord” winning aspect for her, but your observation that this aspect may be symbolizing a “Thank You Lord” this Prez Election for her is finally over certainly has merit now, since no one came close seeing symbolism predicting she would lose so badly.

The same thing happened with Bill Clinton's chart in 2016 since we don't have an accurate one for Hillary. A person's perspective of reality is highly subjective. The fallacy of the outcome is always open to interpretation. You have to ask yourself, does this person actually want what others want. If not, it really makes you wonder, was Kamala actually sweapt up in all of this to begin with. I can bet you, she actually actually woke up thinking to herself, "How in the hell did I end up here?" Bill probably had the same sentiment before the results were announced in 2016.

[SteveS]

Venus wrote:

If not, it really makes you wonder, was Kamala actually sweapt up in all of this to begin with. I can bet you, she actually actually woke up thinking to herself, "How in the hell did I end up here?"

I hear you Venus, good point. No way did she see what was coming with results of this election, has to be the most embarrassment/disappointment in her entire political life.

[Venus_Daily]

I looked at his SLR for the 25th of January, and it looks downright celebratory. Partile exact Moon/Venus square. Say no more.

[SteveS]

Venus wrote:

I looked at his SLR for the 25th of January, and it looks downright celebratory. Partile exact Moon/Venus square. Say no more.

Indeed! According to Fagan's teachings this partile Moon-Venus 90 will dominate in a potent manner this lunar month. Good catch.

[Arena]

What I take from all of this is that, primarily, SLRs must be so overwhelmingly powerful that they can bury what seems like an insurmountable pile of contradictory factors... at least while they're active.

OR they simply are a thermometer or a measure of how the individual feels that month. Maybe it's never actually an indicator of any events, but rather how you feel about what's going on in your life.

The Moon and the Sun are different. Perhaps the solar returns are more indicative of what will happen and what you're likely to do during the year whereas the lunars show how you feel during each month, which may also be indicative of whether you're experiencing success or defeat.

Just thinking out loud.

[Arena]

Arena wrote:

And my predictions About Biden's withdrawal/fallout and about Trumps victory. It could be seen with using the most simple methods without looking at return charts.

Yes, kudos on your predictions Arena. Harris SSR angular Jup-Ur certainly fooled me thinking it could possibly be predicting a “Thank You Lord” winning aspect for her, but your observation that this aspect may be symbolizing a “Thank You Lord” this Prez Election for her is finally over certainly has merit now, since no one came close seeing symbolism predicting she would lose so badly.

The same thing happened with Bill Clinton's chart in 2016 since we don't have an accurate one for Hillary. A person's perspective of reality is highly subjective. The fallacy of the outcome is always open to interpretation. You have to ask yourself, does this person actually want what others want. If not, it really makes you wonder, was Kamala actually sweapt up in all of this to begin with. I can bet you, she actually actually woke up thinking to herself, "How in the hell did I end up here?" Bill probably had the same sentiment before the results were announced in 2016.

True. The Jup-Ur aspect can also be because the individual feels a relief that something is finally over - not necessarily with success if other factors are not showing success.

[Venus_Daily]

What I take from all of this is that, primarily, SLRs must be so overwhelmingly powerful that they can bury what seems like an insurmountable pile of contradictory factors... at least while they're active.

OR they simply are a thermometer or a measure of how the individual feels that month. Maybe it's never actually an indicator of any events, but rather how you feel about what's going on in your life.

The Moon and the Sun are different. Perhaps the solar returns are more indicative of what will happen and what you're likely to do during the year whereas the lunars show how you feel during each month, which may also be indicative of whether you're experiencing success or defeat.

Just thinking out loud.

I dunno, internalization.

[Jim Eshelman]

Trump seems to have been staying at Mar-a-Lago. Here is his Sunday afternoon demi for that location. It's a hard chart to read, seeming happy but a bit out of touch with reality. the "discovered" natal Mercury-Jupiter mundane square is quite close but barely angle (and might well be dropped for a clearer picture of the time).

If PVP aspects are important, the Neptune (already strongest) amplifies - not comfortable or even particularly lucid for him - and there is a lot of the "entertainment" element around him and his activities. Their importance is still uncertain.

r Mercury IC -9°07'
r Jupiter Dsc -8°50'
t Venus Z -0°34'
r Neptune Dsc -1°30'
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t Pluto Asc +5°01'

t Venus sq r Neptune 0°16'
r Mercury-Jupiter sq 0°24'
t Venus op r Mercury 2°45'

PVP Aspects
t Neptune sq r Neptune 0°24' p
r Jupiter-Neptune sq 1°39' p

Non-foreground partile aspects are numerous. The most important are the triple partile mundane conjunction of transiting Sun-Uranus-Pluto (middleground in houses 8-2-11). Jupiter conjouns his Uranus 8'.

[alinda]

According to the TFRs trump looks scheduled to remain in Florida until Saturday. Another one for NYC picks up from there, through Sunday. I assume that is him.

[alinda]

They've added a new TFR, he will return to Florida tomorrow:

From November 17, 2024 at 2300 UTC (November 17, 2024 at 1800 EST)
To November 20, 2024 at 2130 UTC (November 20, 2024 at 1630 EST)

Looks like they are expecting him to leave New York sometime 3-5 tomorrow.

Not sure if that effects the Demi

[alinda]

I guess his plans changed again. He left nyc at 228 am and is in west palm beach now. I don’t see any indication that he is leaving as of yet…

[Jim Eshelman]

I guess his plans changed again. He left nyc at 228 am and is in west palm beach now. I don’t see any indication that he is leaving as of yet…

Lol, thanks. I'll delete a post or two presenting the NYC lunar and replicate the Mar-a-Lago positions here at the bottom.

[Jim Eshelman]

Unless things change in the next few hours, this return would occur, as originally suspected, in Florida, presumably at or near Mar-a-Lago. His Demi-SLR occurs today at 2:50 PM EST. --
It's a hard chart to read, seeming happy but a bit out of touch with reality. A "discovered" natal Mercury-Jupiter mundane square is quite close but barely angle (and might well be dropped for a clearer picture of the time). Dropping out the Class 3 angular Mercury leaves the chart as primarily transiting Venus square natal Neptune tightly angular, plus some transiting Neptune.

If PVP aspects are important, the Neptune (already strongest) amplifies - not comfortable or even particularly lucid for him - and there is a lot of the "entertainment" element around him and his activities. Their importance is still uncertain.

r Mercury IC -9°07'
r Jupiter Dsc -8°50'
t Venus Z -0°34'
r Neptune Dsc -1°30'
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t Neptune Asc +5°01'

t Venus sq r Neptune 0°16'
r Mercury-Jupiter sq 0°24'
t Venus op r Mercury 2°45'

PVP Aspects
t Neptune sq r Neptune 0°24' p
r Jupiter-Neptune sq 1°39' p

Non-foreground partile aspects are numerous. If these gain voice, the most important are the mundane T-square of transiting Sun-Uranus-Pluto (middleground in houses 8-2-11). At the very least, today's Sun-Uranus opposition should be important because it falls exactly along Trump's natal meridian (the transit works regardless of its involvement in the return). -- Jupiter conjoins his Uranus 8' but in the deep background.