2024 NCAA National Football Championship

[SteveS]

Wagering 50 $ on Texas to win 2024 NCAA Football Championship at + 750 (risking 50$ to win 375 $). If Texas wins this championship, I will get into the symbolic chart details for Sidereal Mundane Astrology in Austin Texas. This year 12 teams will qualify for play-off instead of the previous 15 years with only 4 teams in the play-offs. It Texas makes the play-offs--it will be some recreational fun for me.

[SteveS]

Texas (Austin) has just become the # 1 rated team in college football. Jim, If they happen to win the national championship I think it will be with the mundane placement of Jupiter on Vertex circle in PVP aspect with Pluto if memory is serving me.

[Jim Eshelman]

Texas (Austin) has just become the # 1 rated team in college football. Jim, If they happen to win the national championship I think it will be with the mundane placement of Jupiter on Vertex circle in PVP aspect with Pluto if memory is serving me.

You mean the 2025 Capsolar for Austin, right? It's even a bigger deal than that - because Sun is also involved (and a Mars-Jupiter "victorious competitor" aspect). Here is a breakdown of the Austin Capsolar from the most recent (much improved) version of Time Matters. PVP aspects are marked p. - The new TM (alpha version of 0.6) now correctly calculates and displays PVP aspects, which might I think is all new in the last month since you last looked at it.

Pluto Dsc 0°26'
Moon, Sun, and Mars more widely foreground
Sun-Mars op 0°11' M
Sun-Jupiter sq 0°34' p
Mars-Jupiter sq 9°57' p
Jupiter-Pluto sq 1°12' p

[SteveS]

Indeed Jim—the 2025 Capsolar for Austin. Outstanding work you have done with mundane planets on the Vertex in PVP aspects! I will download new version of TM with any follow-up questions. Thanks

[Jim Eshelman]

Here's the most download link:
https://mega.nz/file/4WESHYhQ#YkvHPMTxF ... nKX7nGItdY

[SteveS]

Thanks

[SteveS]

Jim wrote:

The new TM (alpha version of 0.6) now correctly calculates and displays PVP aspects,

Jim, I downloaded the link you provided but I think it failed to overwrite my old TM version, because it does not “display PVP aspects” as you provided for Austin’s 2025 Capsolar. Do I need to delete the old version before I download the 0.6 version? Thanks

[LeiLei]

Jim wrote:

The new TM (alpha version of 0.6) now correctly calculates and displays PVP aspects,

Jim, I downloaded the link you provided but I think it failed to overwrite my old TM version, because it does not “display PVP aspects” as you provided for Austin’s 2025 Capsolar. Do I need to delete the old version before I download the 0.6 version? Thanks

It should overwrite it. It did for me. Make sure you enable PVP aspects in Chart Options.

[SteveS]

Thanks LeiLei, but the new download version of TM appears not to be overwritting my old version of 0.5.2?

[Jim Eshelman]

You shouldn't have to uninstall the old one.

You might, though, have to remove the shortcut you used to launch the old one. There are still uneven shortcut behaviors.

The installed one should have the version 0.6.0a6 at the top.

If you decide to uninstall the old one, you can preserve your chart files by going to Documents\tmsa and copy the Charts folder. Or, to get a really clean setup, RENAME the entire tmsa folder in Docments to something like tmsa BACKUP 9-24-24. You'll always have it handy to recover old chart files if you want, and you can then feel free to uninstall the old program and install fresh.

With my settings, the aspectarian for the Austin Capsolar looks like this:

Class 1 Aspects
Su op Ma 0°11' 100% M
Su sq Ju 0°34' 96% p
Ma sq Ju 0°57' 89% p
Ju sq Pl 1°12' 83% p

[SteveS]

Got it Jim, leaving soon for a short road trip--will give it a go when I get back, thanks.

[SteveS]

Jim, my GEEK friend and I cannot get the new version of TM to download after removing the shortcut to the older version. He is going to get back to me later telling me how to put a 'viewer' for him on my desktop so he can take control of my computer where he can do his thing to try and get the new version to download. If this fails he will completely remove the entire file of the older version of TM---no big deal if we can't figure out how to save my old charts---only had a few. Thanks

[Jim Eshelman]

Please let us know (in as much detail as possible) what he finds is the issue (and what he finds is the solution).

[SteveS]

Will do Jim.

[SteveS]

We got new version of TM installed Jim with saved chart files . The only thing we can figure out what went wrong this morning is when a Windows message came-up telling us Windows was protecting my computer from downloading the new version, we never saw a second windows screen asking us to "download anyway". When we clicked "download anyway" ---presto--a successful download. My friend deleted all of the all versions of TM but was able save my chart files. Thanks Jim for your suggestions on what to do.

[Jim Eshelman]

Excellent! Enjoy, there are a lot of new features. (Some midpoint stuff is not quite right per Mike; he is in the middle of reworking the code).

[SteveS]

I have not figured out the exact steps to get your same lists for the PVP aspects for Austin's 2025 Capsolar. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

[Jim Eshelman]

I have not figured out the exact steps to get your same lists for the PVP aspects for Austin's 2025 Capsolar. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

On the front screen, click Chart Options.

To edit the default ingress configuration, click the Load button at the top and pick Ingress_Default.opt. When this loads, click the PVP Aspects button (lower right). Check the box that says Enable. Add the orbs you want: I suggest you put (for all aspects) 1.25 under C1, 2.0 under C2, and 3.0 under C3 (but make your own choices). Click Save.

Make any other changes on the page that you may want for ingresses. Then click Save.

[SteveS]

Jim wrote:

With my settings, the aspectarian for the Austin Capsolar looks like this:
Class 1 Aspects
Su op Ma 0°11' 100% M
Su sq Ju 0°34' 96% p
Ma sq Ju 0°57' 89% p
Ju sq Pl 1°12' 83% p

Jim, following your instructions, I still can't get TM to produce the above Class 1 Aspects?

[Jim Eshelman]

What do you get instead?

[Jim Eshelman]

What do you get instead?

Also, when you click Ingresses button, then Temporary (opposite Options), then PVP Aspects, is the Enabled box checked?

[SteveS]

Enable box is checked, here is what I get:

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Pl Longitude   Lat   Speed    RA     Decl   Azi     Alt      ML     PVL    Ang G
Mo 13Cn12'20"  3N56 +13° 8' 131°49' 21N59  60°22' - 5°45' 182°51'   6°37'  88% A 
Su  0Cp 0' 0"  0N 0 + 1° 1' 297° 2' 21S 7 248°36' - 5°17' 358° 4' 174°19'  91% D 
Me 14Sg30' 9"  0S42 + 1°30' 280°30' 23S47 253°30' -20° 3' 354° 5' 159° 9'  53%   
Ve 17Aq 5'13"  0S12 +59' 1" 343°38'  7S10 229°41' +38°24'  27° 9' 226° 7'   0%  b
Ma  1Cn33'36"  4N16 -24' 1" 119°35' 25N 1  64° 2' + 5°16' 177°41' 354° 8'  91% A 
Ju 16Ta53'31"  0S33 - 4' 4"  70°34' 21N41  88°36' +44°41' 178°37' 315°18'   0% Av
Sa 20Aq37' 0"  1S57 + 5'33" 347°36'  7S26 225°33' +40°44'  31° 5' 230°20'   8%  b
Ur 28Ar16'42"  0S15 - 0'49"  51° 3' 18N22 106°19' +60° 0'  25°56' 299° 0'  37%   
Ne  2Pi27'11"  1S17 + 1'16" 358°15'  2S 9 217°25' +51°10'  44°37' 243°56'  43%   
Pl  6Cp24'58"  3S17 + 1'55" 304°32' 23S 2 243°19' - 0°23' 359°50' 179°34' 100% D 
Er 29Pi17'57" 10S45 + 0' 2"  26°31'  0S33 168°42' +58°41'  58°11' 276°48'  88% M 
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    Class 1 Aspects                                                     
Mo sq Er  0°11'100% M                                                   
Su op Ma  0°11'100% M                                                   
Su sq Er  0°42' 99%                                                     
Ve sq Ju  0°12'100%                                                     
Ma sq Er  2°16' 90%                                                     
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                                  Cosmic State                                   
Mo Cn+ F | sq Er  0°11'M   
Su Cp  F | op Ma  0°11'M   sq Er  0°42'    
Me Sg-   |
Ve Aq  B | sq Ju  0°12'    
Ma Cn- F | op Su  0°11'M   sq Er  2°16'    
Ju Ta  B | sq Ve  0°12'    
Sa Aq  B |
Ur Ar    |
Ne Pi+   |
Pl Cp  F |
Er Pi  F | sq Mo  0°11'M   sq Su  0°42'    sq Ma  2°16'    
Angle    |    Mo/Ma 16'M      Mo/Su 28'M      Mo/Ju 44'M      Ju/Pl 46'M   
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Created by Time Matters 0.5.2  (19 Jun 2024)

[Jim Eshelman]

Ah. I got it! This isn't the very newest version. Look at the bottom line and you will see it's version 0.5.2.

That's a really good version but it doesn't have the same features as the newest (experimental but working) version, which you can download here. (No need to remove the old version, just install on top of it.)
https://mega.nz/file/4WESHYhQ#YkvHPMTxF ... nKX7nGItdY

BTW, I figured this out because of a minor bug in the current version: It labels both Vertex and Antivertex "Vx." Yours has Jupiter correctly labelled "Av" for Antivertex (the bug doesn't really affect the outcome). Then I looked at the bottom and saw you had an earlier version. The last line of mine says:

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Created by Time Matters 0.6.0a6  (26 Sep 2024)

[SteveS]

Thanks Jim, I will download the correct version soon and get back to you.

[SteveS]

Downloaded your new link Jim and still getting:

Created by Time Matters 0.5.2 (19 Jun 2024) at bottom of aspect page. I think I am going to have to delete the program I downloaded yesterday and start from scratch.

[Jim Eshelman]

You shouldn't have to. Then again, at this point, you have nothing to lose.

Here is the master thread from which I pulled that download link. The link is at the bottom of the first post: viewtopic.php?f=60&t=8953

Here is the current link for 0.6 Alpha-6 (0.6.0a6):
https://mega.nz/file/4WESHYhQ#YkvHPMTxF ... nKX7nGItdY

[SteveS]

Thanks, will let you know.

[SteveS]

Jim, we took your new link and downloaded new version of TM but still I am not getting the PVP aspects. The new download shows the size of TM as 106,541 KB. Is this the same size as your latest version?

[Jim Eshelman]

I have to get back to a computer and look. The main thing, when you launch it: Across the top of 5he screen what version does it say? It should be 0.6.0a6.

[SteveS]

Thats exactly what it says Jim. I must be missing a step?

[Jim Eshelman]

Thats exactly what it says Jim. I must be missing a step?

OK, if you have the right version then PVP aspects should work if they're turned on ("Enabled"). The easiest way to check is: As you calculate one, click Temporary, then click PVP Aspects, and see if Enabled is checked.

[SteveS]

Ah--I didn't click temporary. Let me try this Jim.

[SteveS]

Jim, "Temporary" was checked and I still get the same (below). WHAT IS THE AMOUNT OF KB your TM is showing???[/quote]
Where? The executable, or somewhere else? TMSA.exe is 199 KB. I think you must mean something else because your number is much larger. (Do you mean one of the folders.)

But I didn't mean to check the box that says Temporary. I meant, on the row that beings with "Options," clicking the button labelled "Temporary."

temporary.png

After that (when you're in the temporary Chart Options), click the new button marked "PVP Aspects." I'm betting "Enabled" isn't checked. (If that's true, I'll give you the permanent fix.)

[Ember Nyx (Mike V)]

Thats exactly what it says Jim. I must be missing a step?

OK, if you have the right version then PVP aspects should work if they're turned on ("Enabled"). The easiest way to check is: As you calculate one, click Temporary, then click PVP Aspects, and see if Enabled is checked.

I think you might have overwritten part of Steve's post. Other than that, I agree with your assessment of the situation.

Steve, you may want to double check if you're on 0.6.0a6 (or 0.6.0a7 if you download the newest link in that thread). It will say it at the top of the program while it's running.

[SteveS]

Thanks Jim and Mike for your thoughts. I will get on this again sometime this weekend, but with Jim's latest snap shot of TM/PVP function I see a difference. I will try to snapshot the difference I am seeing with my latest download of TM.

[Jim Eshelman]

I just did a test, Steve, and see that we did something that made this harder for you (and others). When one first installs Time Matters, PVP aspects are not turned on (enabled) for ingresses, so you have to know to go in and change this setting. (I did mention doing that along the way, but with all the different troubleshooting steps, this could easily have gotten overlooked.

I'm going to ask Mike to change this, since ingresses are the one place we know hands-down that PVP aspects work (they're part of the standard system in SMA).

Meanwhile, here are the steps to make that change:

• On the home screen, click Chart Options.
• At the top, click Load. Pick the file Ingress_Default.opt. (If clicking on the file doesn't immediately return you to TM, click Open.) You should now see "Ingress Default" in the top field.
• Near the lower right, click PVP Aspects.
• Click the box next to Enable so that a checkmark appears. (Ensure the orbs are what you want.)
• Click Save.
• Make any other changes you want in how ingresses appear. (This doesn't affect any other kind of chart.)
• Click Save. This will return you to the home screen.

Now every ingress you run will have PVP aspects enabled. If you ever want to check it (because a chart comes out differently than you think it should), then while calculating the ingress you can click the Temporary button next to Options to see the current settings.

[SteveS]

Thanks Jim, I will test these new instructions out today and get back to you.

[SteveS]

Jim, followed your new instructions and get the same readout below:

Pl Longitude Lat Speed RA Decl Azi Alt ML PVL Ang G
Mo 13Cn12'20" 3N56 +13° 8' 131°49' 21N59 60°22' - 5°45' 182°51' 6°37' 88% A
Su 0Cp 0' 0" 0N 0 + 1° 1' 297° 2' 21S 7 248°36' - 5°17' 358° 4' 174°19' 91% D
Me 14Sg30' 9" 0S42 + 1°30' 280°30' 23S47 253°30' -20° 3' 354° 5' 159° 9' 53%
Ve 17Aq 5'13" 0S12 +59' 1" 343°38' 7S10 229°41' +38°24' 27° 9' 226° 7' 0% b
Ma 1Cn33'36" 4N16 -24' 1" 119°35' 25N 1 64° 2' + 5°16' 177°41' 354° 8' 91% A
Ju 16Ta53'31" 0S33 - 4' 4" 70°34' 21N41 88°36' +44°41' 178°37' 315°18' 0% Av
Sa 20Aq37' 0" 1S57 + 5'33" 347°36' 7S26 225°33' +40°44' 31° 5' 230°20' 8% b
Ur 28Ar16'42" 0S15 - 0'49" 51° 3' 18N22 106°19' +60° 0' 25°56' 299° 0' 37%
Ne 2Pi27'11" 1S17 + 1'16" 358°15' 2S 9 217°25' +51°10' 44°37' 243°56' 43%
Pl 6Cp24'58" 3S17 + 1'55" 304°32' 23S 2 243°19' - 0°23' 359°50' 179°34' 100% D
Er 29Pi17'57" 10S45 + 0' 2" 26°31' 0S33 168°42' +58°41' 58°11' 276°48' 88% M
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Class 1 Aspects
Mo sq Er 0°11'100% M
Su op Ma 0°11'100% M
Su sq Er 0°42' 99%
Ve sq Ju 0°12'100%
Ma sq Er 2°16' 90%
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Cosmic State
Mo Cn+ F | sq Er 0°11'M
Su Cp F | op Ma 0°11'M sq Er 0°42'
Me Sg- |
Ve Aq B | sq Ju 0°12'
Ma Cn- F | op Su 0°11'M sq Er 2°16'
Ju Ta B | sq Ve 0°12'
Sa Aq B |
Ur Ar |
Ne Pi+ |
Pl Cp F |
Er Pi F | sq Mo 0°11'M sq Su 0°42' sq Ma 2°16'
Angle | Mo/Ma 16'M Mo/Su 28'M Mo/Ju 44'M Ju/Pl 46'M
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Created by Time Matters 0.5.2 (19 Jun 2024)

[Jim Eshelman]

Created by Time Matters 0.5.2 (19 Jun 2024)

Woops! You're still using the older (0.5.2) version, not the newer (0.6.0a7) version. This older version doesn't have the features you're missing.

I thought you had installed 0.6, no? But the version you ran is a 0.5 version. Again, here is the download link:
https://mega.nz/file/kS0iwKJK#WPsdcKYo2 ... YrEwuPQW44

[SteveS]

Jim wrote:

Woops! You're still using the older (0.5.2) version, not the newer (0.6.0a7) version. This older version doesn't have the features you're missing.

Jim, when we use your link to download the latest version of TM it tells us at the top of TM program the # (0.6.0a7), but when I follow your instructions to get the PVP aspects it gives us the same data I have been copying to you.

I thought you had installed 0.6, no? But the version you ran is a 0.5 version. Again, here is the download link:

Jim, I understand this, and we thought we had it installed the 0.6 because that is the # at the top of TM program on my computer, but it will still not give the PVP aspects. Jim, I am going to drop this matter for a while because all we are doing is going in circles. I don't need to pester you with this anymore, thanks anyway.

[Jim Eshelman]

Jim wrote:

Woops! You're still using the older (0.5.2) version, not the newer (0.6.0a7) version. This older version doesn't have the features you're missing.

Jim, when we use your link to download the latest version of TM it tells us at the top of TM program the # (0.6.0a7), but when I follow your instructions to get the PVP aspects it gives us the same data I have been copying to you.

In the new program, are you recalculating the ingress? (This would produce the best result.) Or are you pulling up a copy that you previously calculated? (This would still be from the earlier version.)

I can't think of any way the program would say 0.6.0a6 at the top and create NEW charts that are labeled 0.5.2. However, if you previously calculated the chart under 0.5.2 and simply opened it in the new program, it would still be the old chart.

I know this is frustrating you and I'm sorry. I'm quite willing to hang in there until we get it right for you because this will feed your strong interest, excite you, and produce lots of fun, interesting stuff for everybody.

[SteveS]

Yes, we have been using a copied chart from the older version of TM. I will re-compute new Capsolar and get back to you, thanks much.

[SteveS]

Got the PVP aspects Jim I had no idea you could not use copied saved charts from an older version. I have questions about this issue, but will save for later. My brain is fried from trying to figure out what I was doing wrong for the last 3 days-- not to be able to see the PVP aspects.

[Jim Eshelman]

Got the PVP aspects Jim I had no idea you could not use copied saved charts from an older version.

Hurrah!

BTW, you can use them - you just get the old version. Sometimes people want the old version and that's fine. But to make this clearer, we put at the botyom of every chart the date the chart is calculated and the version of the program used to calculate it.

I'm delighted you are getting PVP aspects now. You will have so much fun. Take a look at the upcoming Libsolar for Washington with these added - they make it a very different chart!

[SteveS]

Jim wrote:

Take a look at the upcoming Libsolar for Washington with these added - they make it a very different chart!

I have looked at the 2024 Libsolar a long time ago when I knew it would be Trump vs Biden and simply saw Uranus-Pluto primarily on the angles, telling me there would be high % for a change in leadership. But then Biden dropped out of race but Libsolar still telling me high % for a change in leadership. So, the Libsolar symbolic change to me involves high % new leadership will be Harris. Just simply looking at the angular Ur-Pl Libsolar symbolism I think high % it will be a revolutionary change (Ur-Pl) with first lady Prez for the Country. I think the populace as a majority are tired of males running the show. Maybe with Venus involved in this Libsolar with PVP aspects it symbolizes a peaceful change involving a woman (Harris). If so, I sure hope she can restore peace to our Country. For sure if Harris is elected we will see the last of Trump’s rising Mars influence spilling over into things. I am also very hopeful if Harris is elected her d Jup teeing-off her full moon brings something extra benefic to our country and the world. I can’t recall every seeing a leader’s chart with a direct Jup in major partile aspect to both r lights.

What is your take with the Libsolar's PVP aspects?

[Jim Eshelman]

It's in the Libsolar forecast; but the gist is that that Sun-Uranus and Sun-Pluto together definitely showing a change in leadership (which we now know will be the case no matter who wins, though Harris is the only "new president" in the mix). Also, the Sun's PVP aspects to both Venus and Uranus - which are in foreground opposition as the main aspect of the chart - brings the abortion issue to the forefront for the election, probably gives a happiness-thrill factor, and may have an allusion to a woman being elected.

Since Uranus and Pluto are not in aspect, and Uranus isn't all that close (the third closest angularity and Class 2), I wouldn't have forecast an overthrow from just the Uranus and Pluto angularities. (I would have done it from Biden's SSR alone, and then would have admitted that the Libsolar means "people are ready for a change.") - But then, back late last year, I saw the Libsolar had Sun-Pluto and Sun-Uranus (PVP) aspects - and said, oh, yeah, they want to remove the sitting Head of State, Biden for sure doesn't win.

[SteveS]

I hear you Jim. For a long time DC's 2024 Libsolar has symbolically screamed "change" of leadership for the Country for my mind. What better change than the Country elect their first female.

[SteveS]

Still in fairly good shape with my prediction/wager before 2024 NCAA season began on Texas + 850 to win National Football Championship.
Present odds:
Oregon + 360
Texas + 400
Ohio State + 475
Georgia + 525

[SteveS]

My main experimental test with Texas possibly winning the 2025 NCAA Football Championship is Austin's PVP 2025 Capsolar Jupiter-Pluto aspect.