Woman - Moon in Aries vs Moon in Taurus?

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Apr 16, 2015
Hey
Would you guys say that the Moon is a big factor in how we approach our love relationships - along with Venus?

How would you say a woman with Aries Moon is different from a woman with Taurus Moon (Gemini Venus) in their approach to men and relationships?
The most obvious differences?

Would you say that when looking at how people fit together, looking at the luminaries - do you look at elements or sign rulers?
F.ex. a woman with Aries Moon and a man with Scorpio Moon both have the same planet ruling the Moon, but different elements.
My guess is you would go with planets ruling
Libra, Taurus Moons fitting
Aries, Scorpio
Gemini, Virgo
etc...

I am aware that synastry is also about aspects between angles and planets in both charts....and a swap can be good, f.ex. a woman with Moon Aries can fit well with a man with Sun in Aries.

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Would you guys say that the Moon is a big factor in how we approach our love relationships - along with Venus?

Absolutely. In some ways, much more so.

This is a great example of how the "12-Letter Alphabet" approach fostered by Tropicalists (Venus = Libra = 7th House, Moon = Cancer = 4th House) falls apart. Venus and Moon are fabulous examples. Moon usually has far more to do with intimate love relationships than Venus. Venus usually has far more to do with mothering and domesticity than Moon.

How would you say a woman with Aries Moon is different from a woman with Taurus Moon (Gemini Venus) in their approach to men and relationships?
The most obvious differences?

I have notes on these scattered through the Moon-sign interpretations on this forum. The keener differences is how the women are sexually, and this overflows into other aspects of the sexual relationships. I think there's probably a lot there both about sex and relationships.

Would you say that when looking at how people fit together, looking at the luminaries - do you look at elements or sign rulers?

No, neither. The only thing that seems to affect the "this sign pairs well with that sign" kind of thinking is in their geometry, e.g., same Moon sign or opposite Moon sign being very powerful (but not invariable) connectors. One example at hand, here is a chart of the Moon-signs of the women with whom I've had the most important sexual relationships. My Moon is in Aquarius, and the pattern is pretty obvious:

F.ex. a woman with Aries Moon and a man with Scorpio Moon both have the same planet ruling the Moon, but different elements.

Ignore the element thing altogether. (Quadruplicity is more meaningful - one is a Rim, one a Hub, so the first is as deep as a teaspoon and the second as deep as the ocean, all other things being equal, i.e., one responds to life most at the "rim" of experience or outermost level, and the other at the "hub" or deepest center of experience.) The main thing here, characterologically, is that they are both Mars-ruled Moon signs, so the people will have some traits in common that, in some ways, will be useful to them understanding and connecting to each other, and in other ways will create problems for them.

I am aware that synastry is also about aspects between angles and planets in both charts....and a swap can be good, f.ex. a woman with Moon Aries can fit well with a man with Sun in Aries.

Synastry is almost exclusively about aspects between the charts. That's at least 90% of it. But yes, one person's Moon in the other's Sun-sign or Moon-sign (or the opposite) is a powerful connection. One of the great partnerships of the last half century, for example, is that of Bill and Hillary Clinton: He's a Leo-Aries, she a Libra-Aquarius.

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For example, here is some of what is written about Aries Moon. (And, of course, all of the character traits are applicable to how someone is in a relationship. I've just edited to concentrate on those that are most direct.)

1. Maintains a powerful autonomy where feelings are concerned. Emotional responses guarded. Rarely speaks about feelings.
2. Sexually bold, assertive, passionate. Women often are sexually malish in their aggression, need for rapid gratification, sexual pragmatism, etc.
3. Hesitant about intimacy, erecting false airs or acting outlandishly nasty to prevent intimacy. Socially aloof, distancing.
4. Sentiment yields to PRACTICALITY, even at crest of personal tragedy. Personality bent toward the IMMEDIATE & EFFICIENT.
5. Usually energetic and productive late in life.

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Thanks Jim ... am still trying to understand myself and the differences I should see from the "tropical me" to "sidereal me"
The problem is that I still see the possibility of both in me - I could agree on much of that Aries Moon, but also the Taurus Moon. It seems not so clear cut in my case. This is why I ask what would be the greatest and most obvious difference of those two. But if the sidereal me is the real me, then I am a double RIM and I've also found that fitting. And what has shown itself in my life is that I can be a leader amongst men and I seem to be able to switch charachter like a chameleon, one moment being such a charming and flirting, open and self confident woman that can make men dance to my tune and be attracted - into a cool, guarded, focused, no {bs} kind of woman that does not flirt at all, but is almost like a man in behavior and is one of the boys in a group of 10 men and can make women snap out of their drama crisis. High sexual energy compared to many other women, I would guess.

Anyway, very nice histogram you have going on there, about 42 women at the very least

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You'll notice I specifically cut off the actual number counts on the graph

The task of gathering sufficient data for serious, serious research requires hard work and devotion

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Would you think that Taurus Moons would have a more longer lasting relationships than Aries Moon (a powerful starter, but maybe not lasting)

Anyways, the histogram has inspired me to check the Moons of my longest lasting relationships;
My current partner has Moon on my Sun, in Cancer (sidereal)
My ex husband has his Moon in Leo (most probably - not entirely sure of birth hour) ...so same element as mine if Aries Moon
An old boyfriend has Aquarius Moon
Another boyfriend has Leo Moon
First boyfriend has either a Cancer or Leo Moon (not entirely sure of birth hour)
A friend I got very attracted to has his Moon conjunct my Sun in Cancer

The shorter term acquaintances I do not remember their birth days or don't know them.

There might be some kind of pattern here ... that has more to do with a connection to the natal Sun and progressed Sun in my case

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Would you think that Taurus Moons would have a more longer lasting relationships than Aries Moon (a powerful starter, but maybe not lasting)

We all have our strengths and our weaknesses; plus, health and unhealthy show up more or less equally around the zodiac. In the case of Taurus Moon, one thing you have to realize is that they're all a little crazy on the subject of sex. Eros is fundamental to their psyches and, when young, they (like all of us) don't have a clue. The difference between Taurus Moon not having a clue about it, and some other sign not having a clue about it, is that this is a basic key to the Taurus Moon's psyche. Being a little mixed up about it produces some crazy, ditzy dudes and dudettes.

A well known Sidereal astrology that I will not name once told me, long ago, that Taurus Moon's (I think he meant "Taurus Moon women," but I can't swear to it) are either "f***-nuts, anti-f***-nuts, or f***ing nuts." Either utterly lost in a stream of sex and bad choices, or defensively averse to it. Over the years I've tended to confirm that there is, at least, a significant chunk of them for which this is true. It's especially true for a lot of celebrities in my list with a Taurus Moon, and for a distinctive block of people I know personally: I don't know that they make any more bad choices than other people, but their bad choices in sex tend to be more visible to people around them.

Here is a subset of my notes on Taurus Moons that touch on this area.

1. Delicate, but not at all timid.
2. Feelings appear superficial, but are usually groping for answers, sometimes settling on an approximation for the time being. Older ones seem to have found what they want and are pretty solidly set on it.
3. The most luxurious, indulgent, sensuous of Moon placements.
4. Sensual side is most obvious surface trait. Very flirtatious, romantically roving .
5. Theme of SEXUALITY is important, usually by being very pronounced but sometimes due to its stark absence. - No middle ground or moderation in sexuality.
6. Slow-starting, blossoms late (especially emotionally). (Related to habituation? Part of "emotional seeker" theme?)
7. Much of life is spent on a QUEST for insight, understanding, and meaning regarding their feelings.
   -- When young, appear to grope for answers re: emotional understanding.
   -- May settle into a relationship or lifestyle as a temporary solution then move on.
   -- At "transition stage," feelings may appear shallow.
8. Inoffensive, totally appalled at thought of hurting others. May tolerate much personal difficulty or pain, however.

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... am still trying to understand myself and the differences I should see from the "tropical me" to "sidereal me"
The problem is that I still see the possibility of both in me - I could agree on much of that Aries Moon, but also the Taurus Moon. It seems not so clear cut in my case.

You should see both in you.
Your Moon isn't either Aries or Taurus. It's Sidereal Aries and tropical Taurus. Tropical Taurus is the same as Sidereal Aries. It's not one or the other. Both sets of delineations should fit you pretty well. There should be some stuff in the tropical versions that doesn't apply, because it's leftover baggage from elements and rulerships that don't apply (your Moon is not "ruled by" Venus) and attempts to divide everything into pairs of opposites. There should also be some stuff in both that simply doesn't apply to you, because of the aspects you have to your Moon and because of how angular it is or isn't.

But you don't have to pick Sidereal Aries or tropical Taurus, and you shouldn't try. You are both. If you are reading a good tropical definition that was created mostly from observation, it probably goes into some depth, and you may be confusing that depth with differences. If you ignore anything based on schema (elements and qualities) and rulerships, it should just be expanding on the theme. But it's the same theme.