Birth chart of people who possess supernatural power, extra sensory perception

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Edgar Cayce, Born March 18, 1877, 3:20 PM in Hopkinsville (KY) (United States).

Uranus is the most angular planet along with Pluto (ecliptic). Don't know his mundoscope.
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Cayce’s Natal Mundo Uranus 3,27 cnj n. Asc, 1,40 square n. Pluto, with n. Pluto 1,34 cnj n. Zenith. Obviously, this is the clear angular signature for his Natal. Ebertin says about Uranus-Pluto under Sociological Correspondence:
Pioneers, reformers, explorers, people who are very much out of the ordinary or who are endowed with universal genius.
Cayce’s Natal Chart:
http://imgur.com/a/c8RaU

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Cayce
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Arena wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:03 am Edgar Cayce, Born March 18, 1877, 3:20 PM in Hopkinsville (KY) (United States).

Uranus is the most angular planet along with Pluto (ecliptic). Don't know his mundoscope.
For that exact time, Uranus is 0°01' above Ascendant, with Moon 4° off MC - Pluto isn't foreground (14° off MC),but squares Ascendant 1°55'.

This is consistent with my general observation that Moon, Uranus, Mercury, and Neptune are the main planets for pronounced ESP capabilities - in terms of angularity and various aspect combinations - with Moon being the primary planet, and a Uranus influence probably next most common. But the range of "powers" that seem anticipated by the OP's question are varied enough that the astrological patterns are also varied. I've dozens of such charts.
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If anyone would like to research this topic, perhaps using Jim's observations as a starting place, there's a list of birthdata at Astro-Databank.
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I think you mean Alexander Sheps, who was born November 26, 1986 in Samara, Russia. (You didn't give the birth information you said you'd found.) Since we don't have a birth time, we can't really say he has "such a prominent Pluto" - it isn't connected to the luminaries, and it is relatively unaspected, etc.

He has a Scorpio Sun, and either a Leo Moon (which seems to go with his showman nature) or a Virgo Moon (which, however, is more likely to be authentically psychic). I'm inclined to go with the Leo Moon, especially since this gives the chance for him to have a close Moon-Uranus square, that probably is the keynote of his psychism. (And he is a trained and experienced dramatic stage actor.) Mercury is probably his best-aspected planet, with a (probably) partile trine to Jupiter and that rather wide, weak Mercury-Pluto conjunction.

If you want to play around with a time, try about 11 AM. This gives the Mercury-Pluto a chance to be much stronger, by putting it on MC. Additionally, Moon is partile square Uranus and Neptune is rising (giving a strong Neptune-Pluto mundane square on the angles). Just a hunch, but perhaps worth some experimentation.
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coolcoolwcr wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:43 am And I have to disagree with you when you said his Pluto is not prominent enough. He has Sun Saturn Uranus in Scorpio and Pluto aspect to Jupiter, Venus ,Mercury. That is enough Pluto for me with six out of ten planets all somehow connected to Pluto/Scorpio archytype.
Sidereal astrologers do not consider Pluto to have anything to do with Scorpio, which is considered a purely Mars constellation.

What shows most in his chart (given that we don't have a birth time) is sex appeal and showmanship. Whatever other skills he may or may not have, he has plenty of charisma, animal magnetism, and dramatic style to make them profitable.
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Pluto I do associate with Scorpio quite often. Ironic how a lot of tropical astrologers and sidereal astrologers have come to agree on something for once.

Mars is important to Scorpio, but the nature of Mars is very one minded at time (he gets a little ADHD). When, in a chart like mine, Mars is preoccupied (exalted in my Capricorn), Pluto tends to undermine his rule. I'm saying per my chart Mars is even in Plutonian Archtype, however I'm not saying that Pluto rules every Scorpio. Non-Plutonians (even ones who have Pluto shut off or blocked in there charts) don't see a connection with Pluto and Scorpio, this being every sidereal Vedic and tropical astrologer I have spoken too.

However they are doing what Pluto wants, he doesn't want to rule on thing in specific nor be known, he wants to be happy and left alone, like in the myths. Pluto was a really good guy, he had a successful relationship but had got the shit end of the stick many times, he likes to hide. What he does do is alows for individuals to see the undercurrents of the world.

This is a two ways street some Plutonians will whine because the undercurrent can be strong, this is designed as a warning so you can cover from it, or eventually learn to use it.

In houses Pluto would be more likely as the god of wealth to rule the 8th house rather than mars, and possibly a higher chance to rule Scorpio at night, but this is not an inherent thing like the relationships between all the other signs and planets, he has to weasile in on an idvidualistic level.

In my chart Pluto does rule Scorpio under the watch and communication of mars through Mercury. Mercury Mars/Pluto rulership, Pluto rules over the black moon and Chiron through same degree conj. Pluto is the hardest aspect to the moon and being fuled by Scorpio it easily takes the moon in the 8th house to dark watery depths. Lastly Pluto/Mars rule Venus, venus is square to mars making it passionate but I'm an inherently magnanimous person because of Pluto.

I will say that on a mythological level Pluto does have power over Scorpio it's on degree beside Antares, the red star and biggest opponent of mars. The work together to take Scorpio from mars.

As you can see Pluto rules by individual level, so the fact that you can't find this persons birthrime is Pluto covering his butt, he doesn't want you know if he has influence or not.

Seeing as this is time, id check Saturn for the answers or at least a place to start.
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With regard to your first paragraph, I don't think you can support the idea of TZ vs. SZ agreement: I think you'll not find a single major Sidereal astrologer who endorsed Pluto as a ruler of Scorpio. It barely survives even as a minority opinion, let alone an endorsed one.

You, of course, may think as you wish on the rulers hip mattdr; I'm only disputing your one point in the first paragraph.

There are a couple of other points above that are argued at odds with Sidereal theory, e.g. the idea that there are House_sign analogies based on equating Aries to the 1st house. To the extent such analogies ever appeared in Sidereal literature, Fagan endorsed the ancient model equating Libra to the 1st house. In what likely is coincidence (though a sublime one), ancient Greek o-Roman astrologers equated Pluto with the Descendant and 7th House, which were analogous to Aries.
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I wonder if there's also some confusion here as well. Hindu-Vedic-Indian astrologers sometimes refer to themselves as "sidereal" astrologers, but we are a Sidereal board (mind the caps) which is a whole different kind of astrology.
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I believe that again each chart is indivlistic, I was actually trying to help you with the fact that Scorpio naturally is Martian in nature. However is this mysticism natural? Probably not for a mars ruled Scorpio. However the symbol for spiritual rebirth and a more occult leader in or of Scorpio may. Sorry if it felt like an attack or if it was disrespectful I value your views very much.

Again undercurrents Jim, I have sparked many a dusscusion between Pluto-Scorpio energy people and they coming from different astrology backgrounds agrued my side over there fellow closer astrology peers because they felt what I was saying. We can read books and observe all we want but we can't feel every astrological energy combinations ourselves in one life time. I have no idea what having a good bit Gemini or Cancer or Pisces or Aquarius or Taurus energy is truely like. You Mr. E are some of where I'm reading these things from because you have well observed it and read about it more than me, however I don't peg you as the kind of guy to disagree with what I have just said above. I've seen people turn on there fellow scholars because one sees a connection to Pluto and the other doesn't (quite brutal actually). I sometimes forget myself too I must admit that sometimes people can't always see things that others see and that just because we can't seem them doesn't mean they aren't there.
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Hindu astrology doesn't look at outer planets there isn't even any writing in them. Astrology is like religion how can I state I'm one religion when I don't even know of any of the others? Blindly following one thing without exploring elsewhere is a grave sentence.

I'm a pantheist, the universe is where we live and we ourselves are s part of it. Every religion in mine is correct because they exist within this universe, within us. I may disagree with certain parts but that's human nature. Same goes for atrology, if I study every form I have the upper hand, for if one is proven right or wrong I have the ability to utlize the others. It's worldly actually.

I'm unorthodox but im not attacking anyone's view here. The fact that you thought Pluto was used in Vedic astrology no offense shows me how much study you have done. If one thing is wrong why wouldn't you at least learn it in case they came to attack your standpoint on astrology or in life in general?
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ScarletDepths wrote: Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:52 pm The fact that you thought Pluto was used in Vedic astrology no offense shows me how much study you have done.
Is this addressed to me? (Since I'm the only one who recently mentioned Pluto.) I didn't say anything about "Vedic" astrology at all.
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Jim the post was addressed at Jupiter sets at dawn I aplologize for not clarifying.
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