Solar Arc Directions

[SteveS]

Thanks Venus. Also noting your Solar Arc Venus in Libra from Sept 4 2024 to Sept 4 2025 will become partile/exact 90 your Natal MC . Noel Tyl would consider this a major angular Solar Arc Venus hit . AND your 2024 SSR features a partile Moon-Venus conjunction .

[Lyse]

I might summarize it as something like "abrupt shifts in ties or associations; forming or, especially, severing connections with impersonal others; having to preserve one's own distinct individuality and authenticity in the course of having connections to other people in general." Then, Neptune on this point would mean (when activated) a tendency to great confusion about this process, or not knowing one's own heart in the matter as needs for connection (being submerged in something, trying to make one's own stable reality about something) swings in unstable dance with that forming and dramatically severing associations.

Thanks for the analysis, Jim. It’s possible (when activated) because, in general, there is no hesitation or indecision in cutting ties if there is no emotional or intellectually deep connection, especially after the age of 28. Since I make up my mind quickly whether to communicate with someone, other than the briefest pleasantries, it saves a lot of drama. Only once was I trapped in a situation that was psychologically difficult to extricate myself from and physical involvement amounted to an hour of conversation. It wasn’t good but went with it, like a narcotic. That was a total Neptunian experience which puzzles me today, so you may be right! Secondary progressed Moon was also conjunct r Neptune during the height of the ‘relationship’. Yes, there have been sudden endings and I have never given a second thought as to how my life would work out. My decisions were always right for me. If I don’t feel it 100%, I’m not in for long, though always credited my Moon-Pluto aspect with this type of behaviour. Basically, I can’t do casual in chit-chat or friendships.

[Jim Eshelman]

In case it wasn't clear, I have very low confidence in the practicality of using Moon's nodes, and the above was a theoretical construct

[Venus_Daily]

Thanks Venus. Also noting your Solar Arc Venus in Libra from Sept 4 2024 to Sept 4 2025 will become partile/exact 90 your Natal MC . Noel Tyl would consider this a major angular Solar Arc Venus hit . AND your 2024 SSR features a partile Moon-Venus conjunction .

Thank you, Steve. My SA Juiter also squares my Sun/Moon Midpoint in 2026. Maybe the four years after 2023 will be more unfolding related to my Venus Jupiter square. In 2012, I decided I wanted to be part of life again, so I began therapy and chose one of the most nurturing fields to be in, which is nursing. I remember, it was like someone lit a fire under my aff. This coincided with Jupiter being in exact (within 10 minutes) square to natal Venus. I still don't intuitively understand progression to progressions.

[Lyse]

In case it wasn't clear, I have very low confidence in the practicality of using Moon's nodes, and the above was a theoretical construct

Just as well, as I don’t look at them.

[SteveS]

I recently made a statement pertaining to my angular Solar Arc hits that was in error. I said that “nothing happened” in my life as a major “Life Development” when my Solar Arc MC Partile my Natal Sun. Recently I have been moving lots of boxes with very old documents into a mini storage facility. I found an old box with a copy of all the minutes in the board meetings when I worked for a commercial Theater Company back in the 70s/80s. I discovered in the Board Meeting of July 8 1974, I was elected by unanimous vote as Chief Film (Movies) buyer for the Company. This was my dream job! I thought I was elected to this position in July 1971. This new exciting promotion came with a tremendous amount of responsibility booking 8 Theaters with not enough Screens to play all the Movie Companies Movies. I had to contract the best of the best movies back in the days when the major Film Companies did not screen their movies to the exhibitor, it was a tough task but I was a Natural for this position. Here is the one angular Solar Arc for July 8 1974 for a major “Life Development” for that Board Meeting:

Solar Arc MC 02,48 Virgo
Natal Sun 02,50 Virgo

Noel Tyl says from his book “Solar Arcs” for MC = Sun:

Professional fulfillment, getting what ones deserves.

Also, I find it most interesting transiting Uranus was partile cnj my Solar Arc Sun, (00,04)! It was an “unexpected exciting new” major “Life Development” for me, probably one of, if not, the most exciting event to ever take place in my entire life. It was the beginning of the “Golden Age” for blockbuster Hollywood Movies, unbelievable the amount of box-office revenue. Transiting Saturn partile 90 my r Neptune, I think symbolizing the heavy responsibility (Saturn) I felt for my natural creative (Neptune) talent for the commercial Theater business with the Company who employed my services.

Venus & Jupiter were the two most angular planets in my 1973 SSR.

I am beginning to see evidence that outer partile planet transits are important not only to the Natal for an angular Solar Arc major “Life Development”, but also important to other Solar Arc factors.

[Jim Eshelman]

Here is the one angular Solar Arc for July 8 1974 for a major “Life Development” for that Board Meeting:

Solar Arc MC 02,48 Virgo
Natal Sun 02,50 Virgo

Well, not the ONLY one. There is, of course, r Uranus 2°06' Gemini. But the precision of MC-Sun is impressive.

Also, I find it most interesting transiting Uranus was partile cnj my Solar Arc Sun, (00,04)!

I must admit, this is interesting. One example doesn't prove a case for transits to solar arcs, but this is especially interesting because while the key direction was MC to natal Sun-Uranus, the transit you found was Uranus to directed Sun-Uranus - but only if transits to solar arcs are valid (about which I remain agnostic-to-doubting, but with eyes open). - That doubling up of Sun-Uranus contact is what makes this example most interesting to me.
 

[Jim Eshelman]

Doing a few quick checks with fresh eyes for transits to solar arc planets when directions seem to have set off an event. (A three-ring 90° dial makes this quite easy.)

For my big (often mentioned) 12/9/87 event, there were no transits to directed planets.

For my departure from Indiana, leaving my wife and moving to California for the next stage of my life, the most obvious transits were to the key direction itself: Directed angles came to natal Sun while transiting Jupiter-Saturn also aspected natal Sun (and directed angles) - but this may just be natal Sun being double hit, not an actual "transit to a solar arc point." - One I can't decide if it's fitting: transiting Mars conjoined directed Moon. This would have made sense if it were an acrimonious separation, but it wasn't. The most Mars-Moon thing is that we went home to have sex one more time before heading to the airport, and had a tender good-bye. It wasn't clear that it was a split, though it was clearly a starting to branch our lives in different directions. I'm not sure if t Ma = d Mo applies.

Thinking about these planets in a mostly Cosmobiological way, i.e., not worrying what the angle is or what the aspect is, the main transit-directed-natal setoff for this was d MC and d Asc to r Sun, then t Jupiter and t Saturn to the same point. At 5 PM that day, for example, here were the positions:

22°18' Gem - d MC
22°28' Vir - r Sun
22°52' Vir - d Asc
23°15' Pis - t Jupiter
23°08' Gem - t Saturn

This is all well and good - a solid example of solar arc angles setting off a major life transition as transits triggered it. It could also be interpreted as transiting Jupiter-Saturn to solar arc angles, but I think not because, on looking closer, it's all backwards: I was leaving my wife (effectively if not actually ending my first marriage) with transiting Jupiter partile conjunct SA Descendant, while heading off for a professional opportunity that seemed a dream opportunity with transiting Saturn partile conjunct SA Midheaven. That's all backwards! They should be reversed for loss of marriage and gain of professional opportunity. The simplest explanation is that these were not really transits to the solar arc angles, but only solar arcs and transits both separately setting off natal Sun.

The separation from Anna-Kria 11/19/96 had d Asc conj r Saturn and d Saturn sq r Moon - both quite fitting. However (for the current question) there were no outer planet transits (or exciting same planet transits) to those points or to any solar arc planets.

For my wedding to Marion, solar arcs to natal planets were fabulous. There were no transits to solar arc planets.

I remain unconvinced, though checking these turned me onto one thing I'd missed, which I'll mention a in a different post.

[Jim Eshelman]

Also, I find it most interesting transiting Uranus was partile cnj my Solar Arc Sun, (00,04)!

Oh, Steve, we both missed it - something obvious.

This was a transit to your SOLAR ARC SUN. That's exactly the same as your secondary progressed Sun. We already know that transits to secondary progressed luminaries work - I can cite numerous events where transits to progressed Sun or progressed Moon are BINGO events.

Having just surveyed freshly a few more events, I don't think this was a transit to a solar arc planet at all - I think it was transiting Uranus to your PROGRESSED Sun. (I had Uranus square my progressed Sun when my guru died and I inherited leadership of our lineage. Another time, Uranus also transited natal Sun when Marion and I got together, redirecting my future. A critical, once-in-a-lifetime transformative event climaxed on 4/18/93 when, among other things, transiting Pluto conjoined my progressed Sun. And so on.)

In testing transits to solar arc planets, directed Sun is the one planet we have to leave out. Those transits don't show anything new.

[SteveS]

Jim wrote:

22°18' Gem - d MC
22°28' Vir - r Sun
22°52' Vir - d Asc
23°15' Pis - t Jupiter
23°08' Gem - t Saturn

For sure Jim an important “Life Development” for your life, maybe the most important “Life Development” for your entire life, once in a lifetime happenings. Everyone should mark the time in their life when d MC = their r Sun with 0, 90, or 180 aspects. Jim, it appears to me with this important d MC and Asc = your r Sun, you left one love to pursue another more important love---a wider expansion (Jupiter) for your work in Sidereal Astrology. I have always thought Jupiter-Saturn combos have to do with good structural (Saturn) expansion (Jupiter), even if it involves separating oneself from something in order to move on to something better.
Jim wrote:

This was a transit to your SOLAR ARC SUN. That's exactly the same as your secondary progressed Sun. We already know that transits to secondary progressed luminaries work - I can cite numerous events where transits to progressed Sun or progressed Moon are BINGO events.

Got it Jim, now I understand better. For sure my Natal partile Sun 90 Uranus had much to do with symbolizing mucho excitement in my Career with the Movie business and now in retirement it has much to do with my excitement for learning astrological things. When Solar Arc MC cnj my Natal Sun and t Uranus cnj my Progressed Sun (Solar Arc Sun), it surely timed a most important exciting event in my life (career). I am glad I found those old company minutes from the board meetings; otherwise, I would have never isolated this important astrological d MC = my r Sun configuration in my life. 50 years into the past is to far back in time for the mind to accuately remember certain timing of things.

Jim wrote:

That doubling up of Sun-Uranus contact is what makes this example most interesting to me.

Me too Jim, particularly in light of my important partile r Sun-Uranus 90.

[Arena]

This is such a long thread. I don't remember everything said in here.
I know people usually only direct their natal birth place chart for the angles. But did you also try to direct those who have relocated in the new place to see local directed angles? I think that Jim has stated he tried that. I'm wondering if in this case you also kind of gain more angles to complicate things a little bit.

[Arena]

Ok, so this is what I'm noticing with directions of local angles.
Bare with me, since I'm always making a note of two possible birth times. 23.40 and 23.27.

For 23.40 local dir. angles:
Local dir. Mc is now out of partile orb with sq r. Nep.
Dir Mars is now partile sq. local MC.

For 23.27 local dir. angles:
As this dir. ASC/DSC is partile the Snode/Nnode in late 2020 I'm dealing with the court matters concerning my children. As it was approaching partile aspect my oldest son cut away.

Right now dir. Mars is partile the local WP.

IF this is the right birth time and local dir. angles work, it most likely means I will be moving homes within a year. Dir. Moon will become partile the local IC. Some kind of changes in a home or family situation.

Local dir. Mc will move into a partile sq to r. Nep in Feb next year.