Re: Kamala Harris
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 7:59 am
So... does this tell us anything about the accuracy of her birth time?Jim Eshelman wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:00 pm Kamala Harris accepted her party's nomination August 22, 2024, at 9:44:20 PM CDT (per an atomic clock) at The United Center in Chicago, 41N52'50" 87W40'27".
There's the one factor I keep watching - hinting at a slightly earlier birth time. Solar arc Ascendant last night at 0°32' Leo was 0°44 past its square to natal Jupiter. This feels more like a building aspect (though that, of course, presumes a successful outcome - that the energies are still strong in January). I don't think we can draw any conclusions from this at present.
Hert local solar arc and natal angles for Chicago add nothing.
Her SNQ shows promise, though: Calculated by Solar Fire, in what I think is a slightly incorrect way (relying on the length of the tropical year), progressed Ascendant is 3°34' Cancer, 10' from square her Moon and 0°00' from square her Sun. Progressed Moon squares MC within 0°04'. That's all in the "as good as it gets" category except that I think the calculation method is a bit off.
If (as I think is the case) secondary progressions are based on the length of the sidereal year, then her SNQ is calculated for December 19, 1964, 7:33:36 PM CDT and has Ascendant 2°54' Cancer, MC 15°56' Pisces. This puts Ascendant farther from natal Sun-Moon; worse yet, it suggests (for the perfect chart) that the birthtime be about two minutes later (which is unlikely in a carefully recorded time, and is opposite the suspicious that she was born a minute or two earlier). It this is the correct way to calculate progressions, we could settle for SNQ Ascendant being within 1° of natal Sun-Moon - certainly good enough - though not the 0°00' of the other calculation method. Furthermore, it says that if the birth time IS earlier than 9:28 PM, it surely isn't any more than two minutes earlier - to keep that SNQ Ascendant within partile orb.
Moving on to the SQ: The message is clear that it was an occasion of peak emotion (and perhaps more uncertainty than she showed). SQ MC was 0°52' Pisces, 32' from solar Neptune. Sure, the birth time could be as much as two minutes earlier to make it exact, though it's perfectly good the way it is. - Asc 21°30' Gemini is square transiting Moon and, as before, we couldn't move back more than two minutes of birth time and keep this aspect.
This leaves the PSSR. After years of not performing reliably, PSSRs have been doing pretty well using the mean flow of time (as with the SNQ and SQ) rather than apparent solar rate. By that calculation, her PSSR is calculated for 10/23/2023 3:38:45 AM CDT. This gives us several possibilities of angularities - quite a mix of things - and no real clear indication whether to keep the time or tip it. It's a good chart in any case.
17°04' Leo - PSSR EP-a
17°10' Leo - s Venus
19°01' Leo - r Uranus
19°45' Tau - PSSR MC
21°12'Leo - r Pluto
22°01' Leo - PSSR Asc
22°09' Aqu - t Saturn
22°49' Tau - t Jupiter
23°39' Leo - r Venus
If we accept the birth certificate time as exactly correct, this gives the following partile contacts:
PSSR EP-a = s Venus +0°02'
PSSR MC = t Uranus +0°44'
PSSR Asc = r Pluto +0°49', t Saturn -0°08', t Jupiter +48'
One doesn't want to screw with this too much. If we move back the birth time one or two minutes, most of this is kept - and much of it gets stronger - but moving back even one full minute costs the transiting Jupiter (and nothing gets rid of the transiting Saturn). I could be comfortable with any time very close to the birth certificate time, which might be exactly right; or, if not exactly right, we can't go more than one minute earlier.
For any other public figure, I wouldn't stress about this at all. For Kamala, that one minute makes the difference of her Ascendant sign and the duration and peaking time of her solar arc Asc-Jupiter aspect.
BTW, for those who care about such things, here is another minute difference in the one minute birth time difference:
3°24' Ari - Moon
3°29' Rim - Moon/Sun
3°34' Lib - Sun
3°55' Rim - Asc/MC 9:27 PM
4°10' Rim - Asc/MC 9:28 PM