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Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 5:45 am
by SteveS
V wrote:
I really admire your courage and passion for putting the spotlight on Sidereal Astrology. It must be so exhilarating preparing your ideas and getting your presentation together. I used to love doing deep research and then presenting my findings when I was in school, and even now just sharing here my findings of my own inner work I find fulfilling.
Thanks V, I understand. I am most curious to see if I can get some good responses, probably not, but got nothing better to do or lose.
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:17 am
by Veronica
SteveS wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 5:45 am
V wrote:
I really admire your courage and passion for putting the spotlight on Sidereal Astrology. It must be so exhilarating preparing your ideas and getting your presentation together. I used to love doing deep research and then presenting my findings when I was in school, and even now just sharing here my findings of my own inner work I find fulfilling.
Thanks V, I understand. I am most curious to see if I can get some good responses, probably not, but got nothing better to do or lose.
A few years ago I was hired to be part of a team to relocate a college library. The team was 8 very young (late teens early 20s) ladies, myself and 2 men from the corporation. One man had been a naval navigator and biochemist. In our working we had the opportunity to talk and the ladies started talking about sun signs and astrology. I listened intently and when asked my sun sign I had a great opportunity to bring up Sidereal. I told them I had studied astrology and looked at my charts and tried to better understand myself through reading my chart, but that it just was wrong. It didnt add up and it did not fit my character and essence, and I didnt get any tools to use to help me navigate my life.
I told them that what I found was that the astrology charts were wrong, that when I looked at an actual star map of my birthtime, like what you would see at a planetarium, my triple conjunction was not in Saggitarius, but clearly in Scorpio, and that the Sun was at the beginning of Aquarius and not the end.
I told them that while I think the ancients had the right idea, that they just didnt have all the information about how the Earth and the Solar system are and move, and though while they may have had great intentions on helping mankind grow, that they inadvertently shackle us.
Those little women thought about it and said that they will have to go and check it out for themselves. I dont know if they ever did, they all seemed so talented and brilliant and filled with ambition and love of life.....I was actually surprised that they knew anything at all about astrology because they didnt seem to be the type.
Anyhoo Steve I just thought I'd tell you that as long as you lead with your passion and conviction for the blessings you have been gifted personally with your understanding of astrology, I'm confident those who need to hear it, will.
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:39 am
by SteveS
V, the great advantage I have for getting
certain scientiest/individuals interested in Sidereal Mundane Astrology (SMA), is they all have Deep beliefs in the archaic astronomical mind of the ancients
for the Sidereal Zodiac and its precise divisions. What they don’t understand or
have not discovered is the truth that Fagan/Bradley re-discovered the exact 12-30 divisions of the Sidereal Zodiac, and because of this re-discovery it has allowed a pure astronomical/astrological science with Sidereal Mundane Astrology (SMA). Or, in other words, there is a Science (SMA) that could one day in the future for certain scientist’s/individuals greatly benefit humanity. But, I really don't concern myself with this possibility since I am 75.
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:07 am
by Veronica
Well, these were all Librarians mostly and Artist that I spoke too. The gentlemen I spoke of did coorberate my science from his experience.
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:01 am
by SteveS
I hear you V--what little experience I have discussing my style of astrology with someone digging their Tropical Sun Sign, I have learned not to waste my time discussing the difference between TZ/SZ.
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:05 am
by SteveS
I am scratch padding here a new view and other perspectives for London’s 1939 Cansolar which started and eventually stunned/shocked the World with a War snuffing out millions of innocent lives over a 6 year period, which eventually led to the use of nuclear bombs for the first time in history for war purposes. Just look at this new view of London’s 1939 Cansolar which was the same for the entire World since it involved so many 1939 Cansolar partile Moon aspects:
https://ibb.co/3pKs2sp
Look at that partile Moon-Pluto conjunction and consider what Jim writes in his free Sidereal Mundane Astrology (SMA) book:
• INAUGURATION OF WAR. Moon-Pluto is the most common Moon aspect for the start of war.
Germany invade Poland on Sept 1 1939, and London/France declared War on Germany Sept 3 1939. Little did anyone realize at this TIME, it would lead to a
World War. How in this Universe can the heavens (Sidereal Zodiac) declare a war on the World with this stunning malefic planetary picture in the 1939 Cansolar?
Then
look at how that partile Moon-Pluto conjunction is partile aspected 90 to Mars & Saturn. Consider this: The Moon is moving on average app 13 degrees a day! Holy God (Sidereal Zodiac), TIME conspired to place the
1939 Cansolar Moon partile conjunct Pluto partile 90 Mars & Saturn. I don’t see how any future Sidereal Solar Ingress will ever again conspire to be as malefic as the 1939 Cansolar.
And please, every astrologer, think about how precise Fagan/Bradley Sidereal Zodiac is with its Synectic Vernal Point (SVP). This 1939 Cansolar could not have been calculated unless the 12-30 degree divisions of this Zodiac was mathematically precise, but Fagan/Bradley achieved this remarkable astrological happening. It sends goose bumps up by back/neck just thinking of this great scientific re-discovery made by Fagan/Bradley, and what it allows us Sidereal Astrologers to see/understand/contemplate, as well as certain ancients knowing the same precise 12-30 degree divisions of this heavenly Sidereal Zodiac.
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:00 am
by SteveS
Jim writes from his free Sidereal Mundane Astrology (SMA) book:
Moon is of singular importance on its own, comparable to the angles in significance; therefore, I include examples of Moon aspects even if these are not foreground.
Jim's above words ia a par-excellent example of the World's 1939 Cansolar Chart. Everyone has their own type's of AWE they experience with their lives, for me I experienced sheer AWE when I got into a serious study of history with Jim's SMA book.
The truth of the matter: Major "outstanding incidents" can be seen with Fagan/Bradley's Sidereal Zodiac before they happen combined with a study of Jim's SMA book. We may not know the specifics of the "outstanding incident" but with a malefic structured SMA chart, we can be forewarned with a local we may be residing. TIME for me is truly seen as a mystery with SMA.
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:53 am
by Veronica
for me its noses. Noses bring out a huge Aaawwweeeee from me.
I know it sounds silly but I just want to go BOOP on the noses I come across, they are such an incredible feat of evolution. I'd boop any nose if I could and look its owner right in the eye while doing it, they never see me coming and then all of a sudden there I am going Boop, look at your miraculous nose!!
Boop Steve!! You have a great nose for sniffing out very interesting charts that we can all learn from. I know I have learned many many new and interesting and vital things from you, Thank you for sharing your gifts with the world!
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:04 am
by SteveS
V wrote:
You have a great nose for sniffing out very interesting charts that we can all learn from.
Thanks V. It’s the one & only true Zodiac (Sidereal) that we are learning from, and its Jim’s great free book on Sidereal Mundane Astrology that truly proves the exact math of Fagan/Bradley Sidereal Zodiac. And, it just so happens the Planets in our Solar System with their symbolic meanings are at times painting very important planetary pictures with their astronomical geometric movements for us to behold-- before the certain “outstanding incident” occurs on Earth. These Planetary Pictures in our Solar System are painted/written on the true Sidereal Zodiac. Its Nature speaking to us, we all need to just look, listen, & learn (the 3 Ls), both in the mundane world of charts and our personal worlds with our charts.
The 1939 Cansolar wrote and painted a planetary picture with the all-important Moon (as Jim stated), which was a genesis moment in TIME for a very nasty World War that lasted 6 years. That’s how “outstanding” that 1939 Cansolar came to be….
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:15 am
by Veronica
Unfortunately I don't think many Americans really understand the long term impact of World War1. my mother growing up in England at that time told me the horror story of how as a very small young child she had to eat her pet rabbit because of rationing. my father told me how he also was part of raising rabbits here in America to deal with the rationing that was going on but unfortunately most people don't understand this today.
I feel that while the war lasted 6 years, that many other aspects stayed in effect even to this day. Patrick and Loki are no more my pets then I am their master/owner, they are my friends. That why I never killed and ate any of the chickens or ducks my children raised, it's just a horrible psychological thing for many of us to try and process.
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:49 pm
by SteveS
Indeed V.
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:38 am
by SteveS
The 1906 San Francisco earthquake is remembered as the deadliest earthquake in the history of the United States. The death toll remains the greatest loss of life from a natural disaster in California's history and high on the lists of American disasters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1906_San_ ... earthquake
Donald Bradley taught us the Capsolar is the Master Chart of the Year, and indeed it is. But, when we look at the 1906 Capsolar for DC most Siderealist's would not have seen any alarming symbolism. So, since we know by hindsight San Francisco was destroyed by the 1906 earthquake, the only thing we can learn with hindsight is we should always compute the Capsolars or any other Cardinal Solar Ingresses
for where we reside. Let’s suppose we lived in San Francisco in 1906---so let’s take a look at San Francisco’s 1906 Capsolar with the following link:
https://ibb.co/4FL4bBf
We immediately
see a Red Flag with Mars angular 1,45 mundo conjunct IC, and Saturn angular 1,15 conjunct Nadir (square ASC). Ebertin in COSI says for the principle of Mars-Saturn combos:
Harmful or destructive energy.
So, if we were living in San Francisco under this 1906 Capsolar with the knowledge of Sidereal Mundane Astrology, what would we have done realizing the Red Flag of an angular Mars-Saturn Capsolar? Probably nothing. But Sidereal Mundane Astrology with Jim’s free book on this forum plainly states the Capsolar Quotidians (CapQ’s), statistically proven are over 90% accurate for showing “outstanding incidents.” CapQs are
daily progressed charts with the only two main chart factors moving enough to closely track are the progressed angles moving app 1 degree per day, and the progressed Moon moving app 13 degrees in a year.
So, with us living in San Francisco in 1906 we would definitely be tracking the CapQs for San Francisco, since
we have been warned by the angular Mars-Saturn symbolism in San Francisco’s Capsolar. Let’s suppose living in San Francisco we started feeling tremors a few days before April 18 1906, the DAY San Fran was destroyed. Remember Quotidians are DAY charts with their progressed angles changing app 1 degree per day. With pre-tremors we would immediately go to the CapQs charts for San Francisco and would have been
shocked & stunned to see the following CapQ for San Francisco on April 18 1906:
https://ibb.co/x88tyTv
I don’t know for sure if there were pre-tremors before this devastating quake, but MY God, if there were pre-tremors and you had the knowledge of Jim’s Sidereal Mundane Astrology book, you would have known to leave San Francisco
as soon as possible.
We see with the above April 18 1906 CapQ chart: progressed CapQ Moon partile 180 CapQ Mars on San Francisco CapQ ASC/DSC axis with CapQ Pluto partile conjunct CapQ IC.
This partile angular CapQ Moon-Mars- Pluto is a brutal deadly symbolic chart(s) for San Francisco for a 3 day window April 17-19. And remember the CapQ Moon is progressing 13 degrees for a full year in the Capsolar Chart (Master Chart of the Year for San Fran), and the angles of the Capsolar are progressing app 1 degree a day for a 360 degree progressing for the entire year of the Capsolar (Master Chart of the Year for San Fran).
And, never forget I am only looking at “outstanding incident” charts is this topic/threads) using Jim’s 70s teachings:
Partile aspects reign supreme. It is when angularity and aspect partility coincide that outstanding incidents are most likely to come about.
We should let 20-20 hindsight with Jim’s free Sidereal Mundane Astrology book, proving the exact math of the Sidereal Zodiac teach us better ways to use Sidereal Mundane Astrology for our/family's futures.
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:26 pm
by SteveS
Jim writes from his free Sidereal Mundane Astrology (SMA) book for an angular Mercury:
Wind. Evidence is accumulating that Mercury relates to unusually high wind. This conclusion may be premature; yet, most hurricanes and other wind-driven events studied have a prominent Mercury in its stack (even though Mercury is one of the less active planets for hurricanes and tornadoes overall).
• News media. In many events, Mercury simply means that the news media mobilizes. “Special broadcasts,” media events, incidents that interrupt normal broadcasts for news reports (especially if they take over the airwaves for a long stretch): These are all Mercurial. For smaller events in daily timing charts, therefore, Mercury simply means, “Here is where the news media will put its attention today.”
Last Friday March 24 (evening) a Tornado Watch was issued for my area. I turned on the National Weather News and saw where a large tornado was reported on the ground in a certain area of Mississippi. Later that evening it was reported Rolling Fork, Mississippi was completely destroyed by a Tornado. Take a look at this 7 min video for the total destruction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t85FbC4qr4
And then take a look at this
angular “outstanding incident” March 17 Caplunar (Master Chart of the Month) for Rolling Fork, MS, which covered other parts of Mississippi that evening.
https://ibb.co/qRsY1NW
We see
angular partile aspects with Sun-Mercury-Neptune partile 90 Mars with Mars square MC. When the tornado watch was issued for my residing town, I quickly took a look at the SMA charts and recognized there was
no angular “outstanding incident” SMA chart for my residing area, but quickly recognized the parts of Mississippi where a large tornado was spotted on the ground were probably in for a nasty evening with that "outstanding incident" Mar 17 Caplunar. Unfortunately when the national news media started their reporting, a feeling of terrible awe overtook me with my foreknowledge of the Mar 17 Caplunar and the people who lost their lives and possessions in Rolling Fork, MS.
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:35 pm
by Jim Eshelman
Tragic. And such terror shown. (And so precisely!)
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:46 pm
by SteveS
Exactly Jim! You have written a great Mundane Astrology book for any seriously interested mundane astrologers.
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:53 pm
by Jim Eshelman
The Capsolar was similarly bad, with Sun, Mercury, and Pluto angular and, of course, the universal Moon-Pluto square.
The Caplunar, of course, as you have shown, is precise, terrifying, destructive, and deadly. Even the Moon-Venus square, which normally is safety, was part of Moon to a partile Venus-Pluto square, the notorious "?community destroyer" combination. (The week chart, the Arilunar, was dormant, but had a 0°10' Moon-Mars mundane square unique to that geographic area.)
Though affecting the whole world, transiting Pluto was only 0°04' from square Capsolar Moon, marking out an extreme, severe time. The final timing, though, was the CanQ with ingress Saturn (in the exaltation degree of Mars) about 1° from MC.
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:19 am
by SteveS
It has just been announced there is a “growing severe potential” for more powerful tornados for the same areas in Mississippi this Friday/Saturday, which was slammed by a devastating tornado last Friday evening. This same area will still be under the “outstanding incident” angular Sun-Mercury-Neptune-Mars-- Mar 17 Caplunar with its partile aspects.
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:27 am
by SteveS
Jim wrote:
The Caplunar, of course, as you have shown, is precise, terrifying, destructive, and deadly. Even the Moon-Venus square, which normally is safety, was part of Moon to a partile Venus-Pluto square, the notorious "?community destroyer" combination. (The week chart, the Arilunar, was dormant, but had a 0°10' Moon-Mars mundane square unique to that geographic area.)
Excellent observations Jim, particularly the weekly Arilunar with the partile mundo Moon-Mars 90. They are forecasting another round of possible “severe” tornado activity in the same parts of MS Fri/Sat, but the weekly Canlunar is set-up very beneficially with Mercury-Jup on/near the Canlunar Asc, which probably will make a big difference with no tornado activity, time will tell.
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 4:52 am
by SteveS
I watched the national weather forecast late into last night. They are predicting potential severe weather in certain US regions which just so happens to be on the March 17 Caplunar MC/IC axis with its malefic partile aspects. But this time the bad weather is forecasted all the way from the south to the north boundaries of the US. This is the same Caplunar which destroyed some small communities in MS last week with an F4 tornado on the ground for 40 minutes. I will report back later when the results of this forecast in known.
A link showing national map for the US regions for possible potential severe tornados.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFie_2kdozM
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 6:31 am
by Jim Eshelman
Ibn the Capsolar forecast, I wrote:
Jim Eshelman wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:46 pm
Sun-Mercury-Mars-Neptune cause panic or emotional upheaval, confusion, and toxic conditions through central Louisiana and parts due north.
Then for the Arilunar, I wrote:
Saturn squares MC through the same areas as Sun-Mercury-Mars-Neptune in the Capsolar (from Louisiana due north).
Finally, for the new Canlunar that just setup:
The best stretch in the nation is that Louisiana to Minnesota line that was treated roughly earlier: Jupiter sets through that zone.
Of course, Jupiter means rain. If Neptune had been more involved with Jupiter, it would have been exactly tornado.
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:34 am
by SteveS
Jim, the Mar 17 Caplunar is becoming more and more fascinating even being tragic what has unfolded so far. It is teaching me a lot since the storms are kinda happening in my neck of the woods, weekly lunars as well.
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:20 pm
by SteveS
Headline Weather News coming in:
Large and destructive tornado hits near Little Rock, Arkansas; severe weather risk continues in central US affecting 88 million people and covering over a 1,000 mile swath of the US, a record according to a National Weather spokeswoman….
WOW, just take a look at Mar 17 Caplunar for Little Rock, again with its angular partile aspects. And it just so happens I have one of my June Conference speakers on top of this Sidereal Mundane Astrology (SMA) “outstanding incident” Mar 17 Caplunar. I am hoping he spreads this Science to other speakers and audience members at the conference.
https://ibb.co/LzHLwbd
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 4:55 pm
by SteveS
My wife just got a phone call from a friend who has a granddaughter (Katie) who is going to Law School in Little Rock. Katie told her grandmother that she spent 30 minutes in the bath tub scared to death when they showed TV pictures of the tornado on the ground near her residence. There was damage but have not heard the details. Tornados are being reported in lots of other regions covered by this “outstanding incident” Mar 17 Caplunar for certain regions.
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 5:50 pm
by Jim Eshelman
I hope she's OK. The precision of the angular hits for Little Rock are stunning. Of course, the main indication here is terror, but Mars is close enough to mean really serious damage.
For the center of Little Rock:
Mars on WP 0°04'
Sun on IC -0°23'
Neptune on IC +0°24'
Mercury on IC 0°52'
Mercury-Mars s 0°05'
Sun-Mercury co 0°11'
Sun-Mars sq 0°16'
Sun-Neptune co 0°47' M
-- Su/Ne on IC 0°01'
Mercury-Neptune co 0°57'
-- Me/Ne on IC 0°14'
Mars-Neptune s 0°57'
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 5:54 pm
by SteveS
Just reported from the Police Chief in Wynne, Arkansas:
Our community has experienced total destruction.
Mar 17 Caplunar for Wynne, Arkansas:
https://ibb.co/WzRWNJn
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 5:57 pm
by Jim Eshelman
Wynne has things
slightly wider than Little Rock, but still mighty extreme.
Code: Select all
Pl Longitude Lat Speed RA Decl Azi Alt PVL Ang G
Me 1Pi 8'45" 1S29 + 1°58' 357° 7' 2S52 1°25' -57°39' 89° 6' 100% I
Su 1Pi19'32" 0S 0 +59'45" 356°41' 1S26 2° 8' -56°12' 88°34' 99% I
Ne 0Pi 6'10" 1S10 + 2'17" 356° 2' 3S 0 3°27' -57°43' 87°49' 99% I
Ma 1Ge 3'16" 2N14 +27'35" 85°42' 25N36 292°29' +12°47' 193°48' 98% W
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Class 1 Aspects
Mo sq Ve 2° 6' 91% M
Mo co Pl 1°52' 85% M
Su co Me 0°11'100%
Su sq Ma 0°16'100%
Su co Ne 0°45' 98% M
Me sq Ma 0° 5'100%
Me co Ne 1° 3' 95%
Ma sq Ne 0°57' 98%
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:47 pm
by SteveS
Here is another very interesting example which just happened--- proving Jim’s 70s teachings stating:
Partile aspects reign supreme. It is when angularity and aspect partility coincide that outstanding incidents are most likely to come about.
This “outstanding incident” just happened for the community of Storrs, Connecticut. Out of 64 teams which qualified for the NCAA basketball championship, there was
only one team out of 64 which just so happened to exhibit two planets partile conjunct two angles also involving a partile 90 aspect for their 2023 Capsolar (the Master Chart for the Year). The “outstanding incident:” the Connecticut Huskies located in Storrs, Connecticut just won the National Championship in NCAA Basketball.
Storrs, Connecticut 2023 Capsolar:
https://ibb.co/bPNtMxv
We see here the
only partile aspect in the 2023 Capsolar is Venus partile 90 Uranus; with Venus partile 90 Storrs Capsolar MC and Uranus partile conjunct Storrs Capsolar IC. Jim teaches with his 50 Super Bowls Report, Venus symbolizes “partying” for a sports team and you can bet the fans in Storrs, Connecticut are in “partying” mode now. Donald Bradley taught us an unafflicted Uranus symbolizes much “excitement,” so much “excitement" in Storrs now.
Transiting Jupiter partile 90 Storrs Capsolar ASC, t Uranus 1,05 conjunct Storrs Capsolar IC. Transiting Venus 1,28 conjunct Storrs CapQ ASC.
Vegas odds for Connecticut to win the National Championship was + 1600. This means every 10 $ bet on Connecticut to win the National Championship would have returned 160 $ to a recreational gambler. Anyone who had Connecticut in their office pool brackets to win championship would have probably won their pool brackets. Connecticut was not ranked in any of the pre-seasons polls, but was highly ranked with its 2023 “outstanding incident” Venus-Uranus Capsolar.
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:36 am
by SteveS
By what the National Weather people are saying, the central part of the US today and tomorrow is going to be clobbered with severe storms, again. Its round 3 for the “outstanding incidents”-- very malefic angular partile aspects of Sun-Mercury-Mars-Neptune for the Mar 17 Caplunar---the Master Chart for the month.
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:33 am
by SteveS
Here is a 4 min video on the most powerful tornado ever recorded in the World with winds clocked at over 300 miles per hour. It’s a mile wide tornado that was on the ground for 38 miles destroying over 4000 homes in Oklahoma in the early evening of May 3 1999, with the most damage done in Moore, Oklahoma.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4y7CIqi2FQ
I will demonstrate with simple viewed charts how this F5 tornado was timed by an “outstanding incident” aspect in Moore Oklahoma daily May 3, 7:08 PM CapQ CHART. A CapQ is a daily progressed chart of the Master Chart of the Year for any location, the Capsolar. First, here is the Capsolar Chart for Moore, Oklahoma with the partile aspects symbolizing the sheer destruction for this “outstanding incident” tornado:
https://ibb.co/mJHj6vh
Note: A partile 90 of Sun-Mars with Sun & Mars partile octile Pluto, but this aspect is dormant with no angularity. But watch how Moore’s Capsolar progresses to the exact time of its CapQ chart on May 3, 7:07 PM becoming angular producing a direct midpoint of Sun/Mars = Pluto = MC (all partile aspects) with the following CapQ chart for Moore:
https://ibb.co/72Nrvfy
Ebertin from his book “Combination of Stellar Influences” the “Principle” for Mars-Pluto symbolism:
Super power (force, brutality).
Just as remarkable are the angular “outstanding incident” malefic planets in the heavens at the exact time (May 3, 1999, 7:07 PM) this F5 tornado destroyed Moore, Okalhoma:
https://ibb.co/MRjRhbj
Look at the angular malefic planets of Mars, Saturn, & Neptune in the heavens at the exact time Moore, Oklahoma was destroyed!
There is only one branch of astrology I know that can demonstrate with very accurate charts from the true Sidereal Zodiac the timing for these type of “outstanding incidents”, and that is Sidereal Mundane Astrology (SMA). And there is only one book that I know of that explains in detail the proof of this Sidereal Mundane Astrology, and that is the free book written by Jim posted on this forum.
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:28 am
by Jim Eshelman
The Moore tornado was quite terrible, though for worst of its kind consider looking at the Daulatpur-Saturia tornado that struck April 26, 1989, 6:25 PM, Dhaka, Bangladesh. This deadliest tornado ever recorded was a mile-wide F5 twister that sped from Daulatpur to Saturia, being responsible for 1,300 deaths, 12,000 injuries, and an estimated $1.5 million in damages (= $3.7 million in 2023 value). Eighty thousand people lost their homes.
Daulatpur and Saturia are both close to Dhaka, which also is the nation’s capital, so I suggest running all charts for Dhaka. Though the lunar ingresses are worthless, the Capsolar is unbelievably terrible - though you need PVP aspect (still very complicated to calculate) to see it. Moon conjoins Mars (0°15' in mundo) about 2½° from Descendant, squared by Sun. Then Saturn and Neptune, conjoined on Antivertex (exactly due east on the prime vertical), make PVP aspects to each other and to Moon-Mars:
• Mars-Saturn 1°32'.
• Moon-Saturn 1°45'.
• Mars-Neptune 2°28'.
• Moon-Neptune 2°41'.
• Saturn-Neptune 2°43'.
Timing is usually by transits to Capsolar or Cansolar angles or Moons. In this case, the Cansolar had Uranus square MC and then the Saturn-Neptune conjunction transiting Descendant. Then (since the Cansolar was already "running with it") at the time of the tornado CanQ MC crossed the same transiting Saturn-Neptune conjunction.
As far as I can tell, this is the worst tornado ever - certainly the deadliest. If it didn't have the highest dollar amount on property damage, it's only because property value is so low in Bangladesh.
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:42 am
by Jim Eshelman
The worst tornado I've found in the U.S. - I think its numbers are worse than the one in Moore - is the Tri-State Tornado March 18, 1925, 2:34 PM CST, Murphysboro, IL among other places. On a day when a dozen companion twisters struck in Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky, Indiana, and Kansas, the longest tornado ever recorded reached across three states, from Ellington, Missouri to Petersburg, Indiana, towns 327 miles apart. With 695 deaths and 2,087 other injuries, this is the deadliest tornado in U.S. history and the second deadliest in world history. Economic damages were about $16.5 million (equal to $288 million in 2023 dollars).
Several moments and places could be used for assessing the astrological patterns of this tornado. First appearing in Ellington at 12:40 PM and lasting seven hours, it erased the town of Gorham, Ilinois at 2:26 PM. Its worst damage was in Murphysboro, Illinois where it struck soon after Gorham, at 2:34 PM, as Saturn and Neptune approached the local angles and Saturn closely squared Ascendant. In Murphysboro alone, the mile-wide tornado nearly eradicated much of the town and caused 234 deaths. I think this time and place are the best single focus of the storm.
Buildings were smashed. Whole homes were sent flying. Railroad tracks were ripped up and their rails hurled about. Many towns were wasted with erupting fires continuing the devastation after the tornado had passed. Nine schools were destroyed and dozens of their students killed. This one tornado is responsible for many dark entries in the record books.
For Murphysboro, the Capsolar had Neptune partile angular and in 12' mundane square to a more widely foreground Saturn. Neptune continued transiting both Capsolar AND Cansolar angles all year. CapQ Ascendant squared Mars 8' for the time the tornado struck Murphysboro. CanQ angles hit Pluto.
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:31 am
by SteveS
Excellent examples Jim and I agree these two tornados were more destructive in property damage and loss of lives than the Moore tornado. I think the Moore tornado was the most powerful tornado ever recorded pertaining to wind speeds over 300 miles per hour, but since the tornado scales do not go over an F5, I don’t really understand how the actual wind speed can be measured. I found the CapQ for the Moore tornado most interesting, and the malefic angular contacts in the heaves at the time of the Moore tornado also most interesting. One thing for sure: SMA is a most interesting subject to study & contemplate for its timing science when considering Fagan/Bradley Sidereal Zodiac.
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:10 am
by Jim Eshelman
Moore does get credit for being the highest wind speeds of any tornado. It's always complicated figuring out what's "the worst" or, rather, there are several kinds of "worsts."
Wind speed for tornadoes is analogous to magnitude of earthquakes. The highest magnitude earthquakes in history aren't usually the "worst" in the sense that they have occurred in obscure areas where nobody lives, so there is usually little property damage and fewer deaths. Overall, I've found that the most meaningful "worst" is that which kills the most people - the human impact of an event being the best measurement of how "worst" it is: That is, I'm not completely convinced mundane astrology shows objective physical events like earthquakes: Perhaps it only shows effects through people. (Or perhaps not. The "nobody was there" events also show clearly, though not always as strongly.)
I find the Bridge Creek-Moore tornado had the highest wind speeds ever measured for a tornado at 301 mph (plus or minus 20 mph). The Daulatpur-Saturia tornado (history's deadliest) was only (at most) an F4 even though it killed 1,300 people. Winds were estimated at 210-260 mph. The Tri-State tornado (the U.S. deadliest) consisted of several intersecting supercells that makes data more complicated: If they'd been rating tornadoes in 1925, it would have been an F5. I don't find decisive information on wind speeds, probably because they weren't tracking that accurately in 1925. When it devastated Murphysboro, it was probably as slow as 73 mph.
So... lots of different kinds of "worst." The deadliest and the strongest aren't always the same thing. And then, I was able to expand hurricanes with an entirely different kind of "worst" because there is a separate measurement of intensity unrelated to wind speeds, determined by barometric pressure. For example, the most intense hurricane ever to hit the U.S. (based on low barometric pressure) was the 1916 Texas hurricane. Hurricane Gilbert in 1988 was then the most intense to that time and Hurricane Wilma (2005) is today's record holder. Yet none of these is the highest death toll (which go to Bhola, Galveston, Haiyan, San Felipe Segundo, and Katrina).
A lot of the death toll events are secondary effects. For example, Katrina wasn't all that strong compared to others, but the destruction of the levees caused flooding that was responsible for the most deaths. Or with earthquakes, I was always puzzled that the biggest were often Jupiter events - some astrologers insisted that this was just because "Jupiter means BIG" and I wasn't buying it (this would mean that Jupiter was as likely to trigger a high-destruction, massively deadly event as the malefics, and I just wasn't buying it). Finally, I sorted out that it was a combination of two things: The biggest earthquakes usually caused tsunamis! Jupiter had already proven itself important to flooding and when I ruled out the earthquakes with tsunamis the Jupiter effect completely went away for earthquakes!
This stuff is complicated!
But, as you say, it's also terribly fascinating. I'll definitely be adding Moore to the Tornado chapter when I redo SMA in a couple of years. For now, here are the five worst tornadoes I've ever found based on death toll:
1. Daulatpur-Saturia, 1,300. Apr 26, 1989, 6:25 PM - might as well use Dhaka, Bangladesh as near center and capital.
2. Tri-State 1925, 695. I suggest using Mar 18, 1925, 2:34 PM CST, Murpyhsboro, IL.
3. Manikgang-Singair-Newabganj, 681 (officially; but probably over 1,000). Apr 17, 1973, Dhaka District, Bangladesh [use Dhaka].
4. 1969 East Pakistan, 660 (officially; but possibly 883). April 14, 1969, no time known, around Dacca, East Pakistan [now Bangladesh].
5. Grand Harbour Malta, 600. Sep 23, 1556, time unknown, Valletta, Malta.
Re: "Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:02 pm
by SteveS
Jim wrote:
I'm not completely convinced mundane astrology shows objective physical events like earthquakes: Perhaps it only shows effects through people. (Or perhaps not. The "nobody was there" events also show clearly, though not always as strongly.)
I understand exactly where you are coming from Jim, a point well taken.
Jim wrote:
This stuff is complicated! But, as you say, it's also terribly fascinating.
Yes, the more I dig into it with your SMA work, the more fascinating/mind-blowing it becomes to my pondering mind. It simply means to me there is a foreknowledge science contained with your SMA Principles in the Sidereal Zodiac, to be possibly read by a serious mundane astrologer. It proves Bradley’s SVP to my mind! Matthew Q got it so right after he got to know me by telling me I should pursue a working and applied knowledge of Sidereal Mundane Astrology, but he told me it was not him that could write and teach it to me, only you. I absolutely love studying “outstanding incident” history with SMA and your teaching principles for SMA, it’s truly a revelation of the mysterious timing of manifested Nature for my mind. I love comteplating mysteries.