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Re: 2024 SSR for Veronica
Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 1:08 pm
by Jim Eshelman
Veronica wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 12:27 pm
This reminds me of when in Dec. 2000 I was put on maternity leave due to pre-eclampsia, and had to sit and wait for him to be born.
In December 2000, along with the major transits of Jupiter opposite your Moon-Jupiter-Neptune and Uranus conjunct-square your Mercury-Saturn, you had transiting Pluto sextile your Uranus, Neptune sextile your Jupiter, and Uranus trine your Mars. I don't know that Pluto-Uranus, Neptune-Jupiter, and Uranus-Mars describe what was happening (well, maybe Uranus-Mars), but it's interesting that there was a sense of such
stasis - just sitting still and waiting - while three of the five outer planets were in exact static aspect to your natal planets.
BTW, while aspects like Jupiter's transit to your Moon and Jupiter are classic maternity (child-bearing) aspects, I find Neptune's involvement in this fascinating. Pre-eclampsia is primarily gestational high blood pressure but especially marked by edema (fluid swelling). Natal Moon-Neptune aspects are noted for fluid disturbances including edema. Jupiter-Neptune is specifically related to water retention in all forms, among several other things.
Re: 2024 SSR for Veronica
Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 1:12 pm
by Jim Eshelman
Veronica wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 12:04 pm
Jim, you know I love you but your really befuddle me with words like ...I can't think of anyone better suited for this than you are"
Statements like those make me want to scream with questions like
Suited how? What am I wearing? I feel totally naked, weaponless, stupid, small, ugly, selfish and cruel..completely unsuited for anything, a complete ruin.
Suited for what exactly? My dad passing, my sons incarceration, my underemployment/ devaluation in my community, my alienation from my family....
Argh argh and double argh.
Questions make me want to scream.
I apologize for setting that off.
What I mean is that few people I know are more consciously connected to the life-stream than you. Both instinctively and consciously you understand the larger picture within which birth, life, and death unfurl and how this connects to nature. At the same time, I think you feel all of it quite intimately. (Regrettably, some of that feels really bad because of the state of some of the personal relationships.)
Re: 2024 SSR for Veronica
Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 1:58 pm
by Veronica
Jim Eshelman wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 1:08 pm
Veronica wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 12:27 pm
This reminds me of when in Dec. 2000 I was put on maternity leave due to pre-eclampsia, and had to sit and wait for him to be born.
In December 2000, along with the major transits of Jupiter opposite your Moon-Jupiter-Neptune and Uranus conjunct-square your Mercury-Saturn, you had transiting Pluto sextile your Uranus, Neptune sextile your Jupiter, and Uranus trine your Mars. I don't know that Pluto-Uranus, Neptune-Jupiter, and Uranus-Mars describe what was happening (well, maybe Uranus-Mars), but it's interesting that there was a sense of such
stasis - just sitting still and waiting - while three of the five outer planets were in exact static aspect to your natal planets.
BTW, while aspects like Jupiter's transit to your Moon and Jupiter are classic maternity (child-bearing) aspects, I find Neptune's involvement in this fascinating. Pre-eclampsia is primarily gestational high blood pressure but especially marked by edema (fluid swelling). Natal Moon-Neptune aspects are noted for fluid disturbances including edema. Jupiter-Neptune is specifically related to water retention in all forms, among several other things.
I was extremely swollen. My job at the college library had me on my feet running around 4 floors and standing at check out all day. I was told I risked loosing him continuing on in that environment.
I made a Winnie the Poo and Tiger hooked yarn rug for Orion while on bed rest.
Re: 2024 SSR for Veronica
Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 2:06 pm
by Veronica
Jim Eshelman wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 1:12 pm
Veronica wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 12:04 pm
Jim, you know I love you but your really befuddle me with words like ...I can't think of anyone better suited for this than you are"
Statements like those make me want to scream with questions like
Suited how? What am I wearing? I feel totally naked, weaponless, stupid, small, ugly, selfish and cruel..completely unsuited for anything, a complete ruin.
Suited for what exactly? My dad passing, my sons incarceration, my underemployment/ devaluation in my community, my alienation from my family....
Argh argh and double argh.
Questions make me want to scream.
I apologize for setting that off.
What I mean is that few people I know are more consciously connected to the life-stream than you. Both instinctively and consciously you understand the larger picture within which birth, life, and death unfurl and how this connects to nature. At the same time, I think you feel all of it quite intimately. (Regrettably, some of that feels really bad because of the state of some of the personal relationships.)
It more feels like: some things feel really really bad in me because some things feel really really good in me too. It feels that as great as a person feels is convex to how low. I feel I am like a enormous potential for drastic highs and lows, more so then most. Karen told me that people who only feel tiny bits sometimes want to see other people feel deeply because they don't have the Capacity. She said that angular planets are like extra Capacity wires.
Re: 2024 SSR for Veronica
Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 2:26 pm
by Veronica
It's OK, you just catch me offgard. I do have a lot of firecrackers to pop off.
I thank you for your kind words, they remind me who I am. The silly girl who went to Silver Springs and found gold in a dove in a rock.
I have the great ability to be so self absorbed as to ignore any external feedback noise. It's like a super power. Here's a joke about my super ignoring powers.
A few years ago, I heard on the radio about a contest in Los Angles in which anyone who claimed they had super powers would win a million dollars if they could prove it. I entered saying I had the super power of being able to ignore anything if I wanted. I heard a follow up radio broadcast months later saying the organization had been trying to contact a winner but wasn't able to get ahold of them.
Re: 2024 SSR for Veronica
Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 4:01 pm
by Veronica
My younger brother just called to say dad passed on at 5:30.
The song Silver Springs was playing, as I wrote back to you, as he passed. The world is so freaking cool.
Re: 2024 SSR for Veronica
Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 4:06 pm
by Jim Eshelman
Veronica wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 4:01 pm
My younger brother just called to say dad passed on at 5:30.
The song Silver Springs was playing, as I wrote back to you, as he passed. The world is so freaking cool.
My sympathy to you. I know the relationship was complex (as lifelong relationships often are). In time, I hope his memory is a blessing for you.
Re: 2024 SSR for Veronica
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 8:07 am
by SteveS
My condolences V.
Re: 2024 SSR for Veronica
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 8:23 am
by Lyse
My sympathies to you and your family, Veronica. Take care of yourself.
Re: 2024 SSR for Veronica
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 8:56 am
by Veronica
Thank you.
Re: 2024 SSR for Veronica
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:23 am
by Veronica
Regarding Trines:
In looking at my progressed chart,
with some very long term trines,
and feeling the inability to do anything here,
feeling very locked into a stasis of holding a contrary and alien heart then other people,
I felt like it was more true to say that Trines do feel like blocked energy to act in the outer material world,
but feel very active in my inner being.
I very much feel like a shield maiden just getting pummeled, but holding ground.
It feels in a way like the only thing I can actively do is love, to be loving and supportive, to listen and watch and wait.
I imagined all our ancestors back to slime who too had to just sit and wait for the sunshine, for the storm to pass, for the seed to sprout, for whatever they needed, to eventually ride the tides in.