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Re: Veronica

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:57 am
by Veronica
Ive been struggling this past month with news...things Ive seen and heard. The most horrible sickening sad stuff. And I have such trouble not getting hoodwinked.
I just dont know what is true sometimes. And I dont know why someone would make up all this. All this slanderous stories and controversial things poking and pulling at me.

I also this last slr had soooooo many dejavu moments. Incredible unbelievable synchronizations and moments that literally were regurgitations of the past.

I couldnt even bring myself to talk somedays. The paranoia and fear hits me hard and I cant attribute my emotions to pms or hormones anymore.

But I am truelly blessed because when I would get so messed up in my head about what end is up, I would hear my phone chime and I knew I could call someone and talk about paint and drywall and mowing the lawn and normal stuff and not mitochondria dna and dark energy. There is something so reassuring and uplifting in the sound of the voice of some you love talking about shark week on tv.

I am very concerned about what I think I am seeing happening globally with acess to information. Libraries are not open. Its like an illusion that the internet is giving access to information.....but the hits I am now getting from google on my research....compared to 10 years ago....are very base and limited and I am not getting sites I used to.

I am eager to get to work and see how this virus has affected libraries and learning and access to information. I cant access my databanks at home but I have this skin crawling feeling that I am not going to be happy with what seems to be a sweeping censorship and control of information. I maybe wrong but my gut hurts.

Anyways I wanted to check in and let you all know that this summer I must have eaten 100 pounds of big fat blackberries....the woods are overflowing with thrm. I ate and ate and ate....and I dont think I ever want to eat a blackberry again.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:48 am
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Blackberries or Black-Cap raspberries?

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:12 am
by Veronica
Blackberries are what I really overdosed on.
As big as your thumb with barely anyseeds.
There was a splendid hidden grove of real raspberries that I enjoyed frequently too.
There were also the small black cap ones that are 99% seed.

For the cost of real blackberries in the store I was spoiled with natures bounty. Froze alot of them. They are still over flowing the branches and I have no stomach for them.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:31 am
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Push through and freeze more anyway. You'll be glad you did come February. And you can give them as presents, maybe even for Christmas.
I never found black-caps to have more seeds than raspberries, but maybe that's because my grandfather selected the ones he thought were best and tore out the ones that he didn't think were so good when my father and aunt were kids. I love black-caps. Best berries ever.
I wouldn't eat raspberries for years because they weren't black-caps.
Blackberries were never as sweet and turned again green when my grandmother insisted on washing them.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:15 am
by Veronica
Oh I pushed through and froze all my freezer could hold.
I will have berries to decorate my bday cake with.
Thats the important stuff.

Ill tell ya a funny story about these berries.....bc in a way ....in a very funny way...it has do deal with a statement Jim said about Saturn in Capricorn and one possible mundane expression...

When the berries were first starting to really pop...around Aug 1st...my son and a few of his friends spent days hiking and foraging for them. Now all these boys and I have saturn conjunct....bc Im that much older and had Orion at my Saturn return. The relationships I have with these boys is very much Teacher/student...and it always has bern as they grew up.
Anyway....these boys...except for my son, all came back to chill at my house afterwards and started looking at my bookcases. ......long story short.....these young 20ish men asked me to tell them about .......are you ready for it....
The Goddess, the Mother, the Creatrix
They wanted Her Stories, Her Rites, Her Nature

I was utterly terrified and thrilled at the same time.

It really hurt my feelings when that woman came and hit me and called me a Witch and evil. She hated me without knowing me. I didnt know what to do, but I was scared for my safety and my kids...as if I could still be burned at the stake for my personal perspective and beliefs.

These beautiful young men who I have known since prek, who I never groomed or molded or pushed my "adgenda" on....they honored me and my feelings, they showed support and acceptance of me and woman.

Anyways It was a great thing and one that gave me hope that one day there will be Liberty and Freedom for all.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:27 am
by Veronica
What a contrast Sept was with Aug.
Oct seems to be still very active on many levels.
Mercury aflicted my transportation and spirit early last month and has shown up also as my co worker having a sort of nervous breakdown and lashing out at me because she said I was going out of my way to make her look bad. But its really that she is making herself look horrible to our new librarian by slacking.....it got loud and ugly in the library.
So much so that the next day there was a camera installed in front of my desk.
Feels like my last haven has been exploited.
I feel terrible about it.
She came at me outa the blue.
I forgot about Cancers sideways.

I have had so much going on inside and out. Its been very hard to write and Neptune on my Mars is not at all nice sometimes.

Things at school are extremely physical as we are now bringing carts of books to the classrooms and teaching there. I decorated the carts for the fall and love seeing everone even though its doubly hard to identify 1200 kids in masks now. I like getting out and about and delivering the books. No kids are allowed in the library for the first ten weeks.

I have a demi luna in a few days.
I seem to have some touchy things coming up and it really would be a bummer if I got sick. Some things on angles made me stock up on sanitizer at school on my bookcarts....but I can only do so much. I have to work and pay bills so I will just be extra mindful of my personal habits and consumptions and do my best and see what happens.šŸ˜€

T Neptune Square r Mars

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:18 am
by Veronica
I have progressively felt transiting Neptune on my Natal Mars as an intense draining on my vitality, sexuality and ability to withstand attacks.

Im concerned about my lack of appetite....in all aspects of hunger....its like I feel empty inside but not having the energy or inclination to fill.

I weighed myself yesterday and I am 111lbs.
All that hard work to gain weight and I just cant seem to feed myself and Im so busy working that I burn calories like crazy.

This is a long transit. I have a whole nother year with it. I cant seem to bring this aspect to a better place and I dont know what to do to stimulate my appetites and desires.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:35 am
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Losing a lot of weight might compromise your bones. There has to be a way for you to stop and eat. Something fast and cheap.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:25 am
by Veronica
II am hypersensitive to food and feeding.
I feel revolted by the options at the market.
I prefer high fat foods/high calorie.
Salmon, nuts, avocado, cheese, yogurt, eggs and bacon are about all I can stomach right now. Pricey diet I know but I cant put crap into my body at all anymore.
I dont like pasta, bread, rice, or carbs at all anymore except for raw fruits and veggies.

Its the lack of desire and drive too.
I used to love cooking and baking and all that kitchen goodness so much.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:56 am
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Pasta bread and rice aren't crap. They're good wholesome food if you don't get Wonder Bread.

Grilled cheese sandwich?
Grilled bacon sandwich?
French toast with powdered sugar instead of syrup?
Syrup goes on the sausage.

Till my thyroid quit on me, I used to have trouble keeping weight on. Butter is one answer.
I still think bread is a utensil meant to keep the mustard off your fingers.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:24 am
by Jim Eshelman
Veronica, how you describe instinctively wanting to eat is nearly identical to how Marion and I have been eating for three years or so: a ketogenic diet.

The rules are simple but there is then an art to putting it in practice, but here are the main points - I wonder if they ring true for you.

1. Fat doesn't make people fat. Fat + carbs make people fat. The human body has two separate, non-overlapping paths to creating energy: Either consume carbs (starches and sugars) which, through insulin, are converted to energy;' or consume fats which produce ketones for energy.

2. If you eat both fats and carbs, the body will use the carbs for energy and store the fats. Those stored fats will be considered 'emergency rations' and almost impossible to remove through diet and exercise etc.

3. U.S. culture settled into the idea that it had to eat carbs, which led to the demonization of fats. If anything, the carb path needs a little demonization because metabolizing carbs causes inflammation (which can lead to all sorts of problems); but, generally, either a "carbs and negligible fats" or a "fats and negligible carbs" diet works for the human body. (We've found that the latter is far more satisfying, workable, and healthy for us. Bodies and temperaments about food vary, though.)

4. The simple rules: Eat very high levels of fats and consider this your basic food. Eat fairly high levels of protein (for muscle mass, healing, other things). Eat as close as you can come to no carbohydrates at all (no sugars or starches).

5. To be more specific, limit carbs to 10 grams / day (which is essentially none). Once you're stabilized in the diet you can experiment with raising this to 20 grams and, rarely, 30 grams, but 10 grams is the best target for the first few months. Carbs means net carbs, or total carbohydrates minus fiber carbs (since you don't metabolize the fiber and it's good for you).

6. You have to do research (and constantly read labels) to see what's really in food. (That's a good idea anyway.) - E.g., most fruits have too much sugar but most berries don't. More than have the vegetables are fine but some like heavy squashes have way too much sugar and extra carb. (And everything tastes better than it used to because carbs dull the sense of taste a little.)

Example: Marion has a peanut butter she likes. A 'serving' according to the label has 5 grams of total carbs and 3 grams of fiber, so that serving has net carbs of 2 grams - so she can have this occasionally.

Example: When I eat at Chipotle, I get a salad bowl instead of a burrito (i.e. the same food except on a small bed of good lettuce instead of a carby tortilla). I tell them no beans or rice (both carbs). Atop the meat I make sure there is plenty of cheese, sour cream, and guacamole - all high fat - plus salsa for flavor (they're all low enough sugar - I checked). It's a different way of thinking: I really regard that the cheese, sour cream, and guacamole are my real lunch and the grilled steak is the 'carrier' that they're riding on.

For what it's worth, that's how we eat.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:31 am
by Veronica
Thanks, those are great ideas. I do use quite a bit of butter.

It seems as if it is just that my daily required calories for what I need to physically do each is day is way more then the calories I can comforatably eat. .

Ive been trying things to intice my appetite lately but it doesnt seem to be working like I hoped.

Thanks for the ideas.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:42 am
by Veronica
Thanks Jim!
I do eat a pretty much Keto diet except I think I am still getting to many carbs. I did not know about the fiber and to deduct that content.

I was so sad when I got on the scale. I was with my little niece last week and I heard her whisper to my brither how skinny I am.
I had felt the inner draining and the knew I was exerting more energy then id been taking in these last 6 wƩks esp. But I didnt think I had lost that much weight.
But I do feel so tired and fall asleep hard by 8pm.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:43 am
by Jim Eshelman
Veronica wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:31 am It seems as if it is just that my daily required calories for what I need to physically do each is day is way more then the calories I can comforatably eat.
The key to the above, remember, is not to mix carbs and fats. If you start that process and then throw in a greater amount of carb, you throw yourself out of adaptation for a few days. (The longer you eat this way, the more flexible the body becomes. We throw in a pizza every couple of weeks and it only takes a day or two for our bodies to readapt; in the beginning it would have taken a month.)

Regarding "can't eat enough calories" etc.: The usual way of counting calories is misleading. It implies "all calories are equal," which isn't true at all. Some people on keto do still count calories, especially if the goal is weight loss (in contrast to my goal, which was reducing inflammation); but mostly I find it useful to stop thinking in terms of calories.

One of the things you find is that when you eat predominantly fat, you get full faster - need to eat less but it has more concentrated power. If you follow this plan, within a week (two at the outside) you should notice distinctly more energy. Also, since you aren't relying on insulin, you don't ride the carb roller coaster. You don't get hungry in the old sense (no extremes or swings, which are insulin-driven); we had to learn to remember to eat because we were relying on sensations and 'driven' hunger that don't exist anymore. The main symptom of needing to eat is that energy fades - so you give the body more energy. Or one can just be well-habituated to always eat on a certain schedule (standard meal times etc.)

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:50 am
by Jim Eshelman
Veronica wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:42 am Thanks Jim!
I do eat a pretty much Keto diet except I think I am still getting to many carbs. I did not know about the fiber and to deduct that content.
The key is not to mix the two. I feel really solid on the science of that. The old idea of "a well balanced meal with some of everything" is scientifically unsound.
I was so sad when I got on the scale. I was with my little niece last week and I heard her whisper to my brither how skinny I am.
After 50, women have a harder time keeping weight down. It's biochemical. There is a good chance eating keto will start bringing pounds off because your body - once habituated to think that fat is its fundamental food - starts eating the fat stores of the body. (It may take a week or two for this to kick in.)
I had felt the inner draining and the knew I was exerting more energy then id been taking in these last 6 wƩks esp. But I didnt think I had lost that much weight.
Yes, the calorie model is wrong. It matters what you eat, not how much. All calories aren't equal. - Keto lets you train your body to fuel itself off of its stored fat rather than keep adding to the stores because you're eating carbs and storing fat.
But I do feel so tired and fall asleep hard by 8pm.
This may be a 2020 symptom, too. A lot of people are feeling physically and psychologically drained from current conditions. It's also easier to be less physically active under "shelter in place" conditions - I used to be on my feet half or more of each day when we were all in the office, and I now sit stationary nearly all day working from home and have to go out of my way to put physically activity in.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:14 am
by Veronica
I most definately think then that I was/am still getting getting to many carbs.

The mixing of the two is not good, I 100 % agree.
I am going to take advantage of the Neptunian currents draining feeling to draw out those last carbo-holic indulgences that I am holding onto.

I would love to pratter away and completely expose and demonize the Carb Culture and expound on its centuries old narrative, the Narrative that aggressively and mercilessly demonized the "Fat/Keto/Caveman" diet.

But its not a nice story
And it doesnt have a happy ending

I am very lucky that my natal mars has such nice strong aspects and placements because Neptune can be no joke and stir up the pot. I feel very healthy, lean and strong and I am rejoicing in my bodies aliveness and painfreeness and fitness. At almost 50 I think I am in very excellent physical health. Even though Im skinny.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:59 am
by Veronica
I didnt realize how hard it is to get only 10grams of carbs a day.
Im shocked at what my food choices were filled with.
Even the foods like yogurt, nuts and cottage cheese!

Im really feeling confident though that once I create a legitimate food plan that achieves those parameters my energy levels will stablize. Im actually excited to explore how to create meals that will be packed with what my body needs to run effectively and efficiently.

They say woman need aboyt 2k-2.5k calories a day. I think though that might not be accurate. Im going to shoot to get at least 1800 from fat. Thats 600 fat calories need per meal. Thats very hard to achieve. Thats like 60grams...if my guestimations are close.

Im having such a nice year in so many ways and the lack of inflamtion and irritation is a big part of that. Im only geting older and my body is too and Id be smart to take advantage of my nice SSR and Solar Arcs and Profressions and tomorrows Lunar return and lift those currents to the best I can.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:16 am
by Jim Eshelman
Veronica wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:59 am I didnt realize how hard it is to get only 10grams of carbs a day.
Thinking "no carbs" is probably the best mental trick, accepting that you won't reach zero carbs (and don['t have to) but will keep it very low.
Im shocked at what my food choices were filled with.
Even the foods like yogurt, nuts and cottage cheese!
Full-fat Greek yogurt is the best yogurt choice. Fage is the best brand. Yogurts that come with fruit (which always means syrupy fruit) are out, and other popular commercial forms have added sugar. (A lot of "plain" are really vanilla and add sugar.) Also, since the goal isn't just low carbs but also high fat, the full-fat Greek yogurt with brands like Fage is a double-win and good keto food. (You can also make your own clean yogurt if you are so inclined.)

Most nuts are out. Some have lower carbs but I've never cared enough to sort out what's what. The "woodier" ones like Brazil and (sigh) cashew are too high in net carbs.

Cottage cheese should be OK usually. Some commercial brands add sugar. Milk products have some sugar but usually in small quantities. For example, cheese is great keto food. The biggest problem with cottage cheese is a lot of them in the market try to reduce fat - that doesn't get you anywhere. You want higher fat - that's your food on keto.
They say woman need aboyt 2k-2.5k calories a day. I think though that might not be accurate. Im going to shoot to get at least 1800 from fat. Thats 600 fat calories need per meal. Thats very hard to achieve. Thats like 60grams...if my guestimations are close.
I ignore calories so I don't have those formulae in mind. Thinking of what we've eaten lately, last night we had a dish called "crack slaw." It's a popular keto dish named because people "love it like crack." It's mostly cabbage fried in a lot of fat with meat stirred in - lots of variations - and then Marion and I we put two or three "over very easy" (runny yoke) eggs on it to spill around. Stupendously good. (But there are tons of variations.)

Re: Veronica

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 4:55 am
by Veronica
Its about time to move
This morning I am reflecting on how this area puts my natal Neptune and Pluto waayyy to angular for my comfort anymore.
Ive lived here my whole life and it has been intense from the get go.

It would be nice if I could accent my Venus qualities, I have been in love with the process of creative design and enjoy spending my time creating and embellishing.

I am mostly examining the USA.
To shift the angle a touch more to my Jupiter would not seem to be a big move...thats about Syracuse.
I was thinking I could be a black jack player at the casino....lol

Last year before Covid I was planning on moving but I was staying in the area. Moving is a huge expense and PITA but if planned doesnt have to be chaos and disrupting.

Neptune has some beautiful qualities but there is a reason why it is concidered a malificent influence and I really feel today like I spend way to much effort trying to cheer myself up, that wouldnt it be nice to Not be swimming in the deep end all the time.

So while I love my longitude and latitude and feel a deep connection to this area I want something different going on.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:35 am
by Jim Eshelman
So... if I'm reading this correctly... you're looking for Venus or Jupiter angular (and Neptune if it can be softened; it is, after all, well aspected in your chart). And in the continental U.S.

Your Jupiter square MC line is exact for roughly the longitude of Ithaca - so yes, over toward Syracuse. About 60 miles either side of the longitude of Ithaca makes that strongest. (Actually, Auburn is closer to an exact hit, if you want to fine tune this.)

New York overall has such powerful forces - your Jupiter, Neptune, and Pluto - with Rochester right in the middle of the mix, almost equally balanced between the three lines.

As for the rest of the country, that Jupiter line (square MC) goes due north-south - you can follow it on a map - so it passes south through east-central Pennsylvania (around York's longitude). BTW, in Pennsylvania you have one fantastic planetary alignment that you should at least find a reason to visit sometime: Your Jupiter and Pluto lines cross a little northwest of Bloomsburg, PA. A little north of Williamsport. If you decide to take a trip, I can work out the fine points for you. Not sure what's there, but it would seem to be something of a personal Jupiter-Pluto vortex.

As you can trace on a map (going south of Auburn or Ithaca), the Jupiter line moves through coastal Virginia (including Washington, DC btw) and coastal North Carolina.

Moving to the rest of the country, you probably want to avoid the north-south line that marks the Texas-Louisiana border: That's the line (all the way up to mid-Minnesota) where Saturn squares MC. Also, your Saturn rises farther west, on a curve from western New Mexico through Utah (exact at Salt Lake City) and Idaho. Not a good stretch for you. Mars sets on a curve along Florida's east coast (passing through Jacksonville), passing nearly through Atlanta and upward through almost Minneapolis - you probably want to avoid that line (except MAYBE for Jacksonville itself where you have an exact convergence of Sun on MC and Mars on Dsc: You would be quite powerful and fully unleash your huevos rancheros (if you get my point), though it would be living in high gear all the time. (Oh, and - just noticed - your Jupiter is on Westpoint there.)

Being careful to avoid that Saturn line, your Jupiter is on Descendant from mid-Louisiana curving northwest through the plains states. It doesn't clear Saturn until at least as far north as Wichita. Maybe it's not a good shot because Jupiter with Saturn AND Neptune would be a tough one.

Your Venus isn't angular anywhere in the continental U.S. Canada's west coast, central Australia or Borneo, Tehran - sure :) - Venus aplenty. But not in continental U.S.

Surveying the whole, I think the mid-country areas offer you too little (and the benefics offer too little). If you move out of New York, Pennsylvania is the best non-coastal area; Virginia and North Carolina are the best coastal areas; and a chance to completely reverse how you've approached living your life and go full-huevos is Jacksonville.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:15 pm
by Veronica
We've talked about this before.....
I have such weird dejavu about this and that vortex....

Thank you so much for being patient with me.

I dont know why I go back and forth with the idea of moving.

Ilots of little baby steps to do before I can.


Orion is going to Florida to visit a friend for there joint birthday celebration and Im getting some mommy feelings hard about what could happen. I didnt like the quick look I took at his chart. My peace comes from the fact his SSR is the following day after his "birth" date.

Thanks again for those great ideas. They sound great mostly.
My one thought though in moving things is that that would effect the transiting planets interaction with my xhart possibly.
Transiting Neprune is coming off my Mars and I dont think I want to feel it on a new angle I might have if I move.

Youve given me much to think about. Im going to have to feel things out. I do like eggsšŸ˜€

Re: Veronica

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:44 pm
by Veronica
My current transits for the last 6 weeks are really weighing on me today especially.

When covid happened in my area in May, I made the decision to allow Sabrina's boyfriend (2years together as of new years) to stay with us. I was so afraid of getting covid and dying that I couldn't allow him to have an extended "bubble" of 30 people....and still see Sabrina.

But Sabrina and her boyfriend have issues and fight and I get scared. I'm scared as I sit there that I'm going to lash out to protect my daughter. I have so much violence in me under the surface. I cant explain it other then a generic feeling of a huge amount of potentially atomic violence in that I'm afraid I will severely hurt someone if the really push me.

And honestly it feƩls like people know that and are trying to set me up to explode.

I've been talking and seeing Craig a bit this year which was so beautiful. Not sexually but so much more fulfilling feeling... But I'm so afraid of getting into a fight with him......

Anyway sorry to digress. The boyfriend (1-16-1999 rochester ny) is not coming back after this last fight.

I'm hoping that these strong feelings are just what is going on right now with the transits but I get scared of myself when I get into a fight like I did with her boyfriend and know that I could have killed him, in a blind pent up primal rage of sorts.

It takes me so long and so much love to shake all the adrenaline and hormones that get pumping in me.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:38 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Yeah.. it's a well-known technique in animal training. You got a cocky young male who acts out, you put him in with an old mare or old bitch (dog). She won't take any guff from him and he either settles down and fast or he gets his ribs kicked in/ finds himself on his back with her teeth on his throat. Other animals too, like elephants.

But you have to be careful. Young male gorillas beat old females to death on a fairly regular basis, even when they have toddlers.

So, how does your daughter feel about you interferring in her relationships? Did she want the guy gone? Did she want the guy to move in in the first place? How old is she anyway? If she's under 18, he's too old for her anyway.

Capricorn Sun, Aries Saturn and Libra Mars all closely square each other. Sagittarius moon conj Mercury. He's got a temper and a condescending way about him, and how dare a bunch of women tell him what to do.

No, you're better off without him, and I don't know her birth data but I bet your daughter is too.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:32 am
by Veronica
Oh no...It wasnt me. They fought and he flipped out on her and packed up to live in his car.
Then I caught him tryin to break in and my son was home and dealt with him.

Yes I am very afraid of his temper and what he could do (flat tires ect) out of anger.

You summed him up perfectly. I feel so much better with him out of my peaceful home. I work so hard for what little I have and it sucks knowing there are mean jerks who just want us to fail and suffer.

Thanks for the feed back.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:30 am
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Oh. I am confused. You said you got into a fight with him and were scared you might kill him.
Glad he left on his own, even if he didn't want to stay out. If he forgot something that belongs to him, make sure he gets it back asap.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:15 am
by Veronica
Well I did get into a fight with him as well.... He came back another day and started screaming outside my home and when I went out to see what was going on he tried picking a fight with me.

It seems to me that I am set up to be the enemy.
It feels like the current culture is very much like what Joesph Campbell wrote in his Hero with a thousand faces.....that there really is only one story being told in our world..history ...his story...the story of the Hero who goes forth to fight the evil and save the princess....
Yet the evil is the feminine nature.
So in the story being told that everyone in culture seems to be acting out.....Im either the evil old witch/bitch or a helpless princess.

I cant win in either case. I cant even live because Im the free indepwndant woman who doesnt need to be saved but is the epitome of evil and mankind needs to subjugate me and enslave me.

I hate this story.

I know there is another story to be told.
Another side.one in which Im not evil and mean and crazy.

Ive come to the realization that there seems to be two types of people in the world..those who are living the heroes tale and doing everything to support the masculine rule over nature.....and a very small group who do not see women as evil and nasty and mean but valid human beings with there own minds and hearts and thier own dreams.

I wish I could find a man who wasnt all wrapped up in his story being the only important story going on and that he would be supportive and encoueaging and helpful to me in my life and my story....

I love hearing Jim and Steve boast and brag and support thier wives and hope someday I might find someone who really values me and my story/life and isnt worried about how he is going to appear in my story.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:20 pm
by SteveS
Veronica wrote:
I love hearing Jim and Steve boast and brag and support their wives and hope someday I might find someone who really values me and my story/life and isnā€™t worried about how he is going to appear in my story.
Thanks V, my wife is a true angel for me. Her Aquarius Moon literally nourishes my soul, I am so lucky she came into my lifeā€”I donā€™t believe I could live without her. I donā€™t mean to boast or brag about her, only to state I am blessed to have her as my partner in life. She actually knows and understand me better than I know myselfā€”even with me seeing/understanding through the lens of my Natal Chart. Veronica, please believe me, if I could find my lost magic wand and had only two wishes, I would wish for you to find what you are looking for with a partnered man, and the other would be to wish Freya conceive a wonderful child for her life.

Veronica, I am going to write some words but I donā€™t want you to get carried away thinking I have answers or magical ways for you find a loving partner for your life. But, I have always been very impressed with your intuitive thoughts pertaining to Mother Nature when you are alone with her. It is absolutely that silent feminine voice of nature that is usually drowned-out my negative male dominance in this world.

There has only been one time in my entire life I have consulted a specific Divination method which gave me a specific intuitive answer for the most important objective in my life, but I do not have enough experience with this method to try to counsel others. I feel very strongly this method is designed to only give counsel to each individual with their own life, since it is really only the individual who sees and understand their life better than another outside counsel. The book about this method is ā€œThe Oracle Of Geomancyā€ Techniques of Earth Divination, by Stephen Skinner. Please donā€™t let your imagination run wild thinking this book will solve your main life objectives but I think it could possibly help you with your life because it is about Earth Divination and somehow I think, maybe know, this book is better suited for women who are familiar and more connected to that silent voice of Mother Nature than men.

On the back cover of this book reads:
Here, for the first time, geomancy gives counsel in all lifeā€™s concerns. In its sixteen symbols, you can lay before you the essence of your personal universe, then interpret the figure to find answers to any question. Astrology divines by the stars, geomancy by the earth. Together they form a unique method for delving into the meaning of the present and the design of the future.

Stephen Skinner is an authority on medieval magic and the author of several important books on the occult traditions, including Terrestrial Astrology, The Living Earth Manual of Feng Shui and Techniques of High Magic (with Francis King). He also edited several editions of magical writings by Aleister Crowley.
Later I will tell you exactly what happen with the circumstance in my life when I consulted the Oracle of Geomancy for the only time in my life.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:33 am
by SteveS
Hi Veronica,
It is my opinion, divination with the techniques of Geomancy may be of great help when you find yourself in major ā€œGordian Knotsā€ situations. But it is really left-up to each individual to decide the merits of the ā€œThe Oracle of Geomancy.ā€ I also strongly believe the Oracle should be used for material mattersā€”not spiritual matters.

Once in life I faced a do or die business situation where I turned to the Oracle of Geomancy for help. I asked the Oracle what I should do in order to survive and prosper with a closed-down theater I renovated. I had to figure out a way to best compete vs my competition or be out of business. I canā€™t remember how I came about the book, but over a 3-4 day period at the beach, I asked the Oracle to assist me in my material endeavor to win vs my competition.

I used a paper and pencil and the Oracle spoke loud and clear WOMEN were the answer to my question. At first this confused me. It took me a few days before intuitively I realized maybe I needed to turn my floor operations over to all women and remove the manager and myself from the floor operations. Let the women make the final floor decisions. When I did this it blew the mind of my male manager. Anyway, after about 3 weeks of the women operation the floor (box office & concession), the public (all women) started calling the office during the day asking for my theater to play certain upcoming movies at my theater. You see, the public thought all the 8 screens in the city were operated by the same owner, but I only owned 4 screens (1 theater building) and my competition owned the other 4 screens (another theater building). I and my staff had to explain this to the public, I the owner had no say so in which movies played at my theater, and all movies for both theaters were allocated on an equal 50-50 basics on a rotating method from the distributors of movies. But, I and my staff explained to the public they could contact the separate distributors of the film companies and request their movie be allocated to the name of my theater. So, the mothers started contacting Buena Vista asking that their movies be allocated to my theater. Buena Vista films grossed a-lot of $ and had a-lot of movies orientated for children/family.

When I turned over floor operations to only the women employees, they did little things which women really appreciated in many ways. Distributing film companies can allocate their movies to any theater owner in a given city for good reasons. One day I got a call from Buena Vista asking if I would play all of their films which was a God Send and literally saved my financial future. I know this for sure: If I had not consulted the Oracle of Geomancy, no way I would have turned over my floor operations to my women employees, one being my wife. I allowed the women running the concession stand to have tip jars and on some weekends with heavy business, the women would receive more tips than their actual weekend pay. The women would do little things to help the customer like helping them take their purchased concessions to their auditorium seats where the family were seated. Me and my male manager ran the projection booth and counted the money in-between shows and helped pick-up trash in the auditorium, staying invisible to floor operations. In other words we were fā€”king things up not realizing it. The women knew better than the male owner and male manager how to nourish the public in ways they knew the public would appreciate. This resulted in my theater receiving the higher grossing films from the film companies. Film companies send their representatives to certain cities to see which theater operators run a better operation.

Anyway, the Oracle saved my business career at a time when I though my business would not survive. I canā€™t guarantee the Oracle will work for you like it did for me with certain problems in your life, only you can be the judge for this for your life. The Oracle works on an intuitive mediated manner with the reflective and quite times in your life. It speaks in silent ways without using normal western thinking. Read the book and you will understand better than I can put into words.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:29 am
by Veronica
Steve
Thank you so much for gushing words of love about your wife. Its poetry to me. The fact that you openly accolade her importance to you, in the face of a culture that aggressively diminishes and devalues a woman life, gives me hope. I know too that you must shower her with those feelings, for how could you contain them.

I used to have to sit, for hours (once 8 hours straight) at the kitchen table with my father. He wanted to talk politics and religion with me....a pubescent girl...and tell me how wrong my thoughts and feelings were. How cookoo Crazy and stupid I was.

In November I went to visit my dad. Before the election. And he started in on a story of how The USA was ruined and if Trump didnt win how everything we had ever worked hard for and believed in and held as good would be gone.

As I listened to his genuine feelings of utter dispare and hopelessness a strange dejavu came over me.
I was back at the table...the Irish were fighting......
I was back at the table.....the Israelis were fighting...
I was back at the table....the Faulkin Island were invaded.

It was sad for me to hear my fathers story of how {bonked} we are.

I couldnt take it anymore.
So I told my dad that it would be ok because I had found out a deep mysterious secret that is heavily guarded.

For the next quarter hour I told my father the story of Creation, as told by Science. I told him about the macro and the micro. I told him about waves and vibes and frequencies and accordance and resonance. I told him about Math and geometry and algebra ......
But it unfolded out of my mouth as a bedtime story, because my fathers rage and fear subsided and his eyes changed to a loving twinkle and his muscles went slack and he nestled into his bed with his face propped up with hand and his mouth aslack.

I got to the part in creation about America. Our beloved country and how it was founded. I had told him about astrology and said now that he well knows that our founding fathers were Masons. Who knew about astrology. Who would have known to use those rides to thier advantage in founding thier country. Who would have choose the very best time to create Thier dream by using astrolgy.

But they didnt know about all astrology.
They didnt know about Neptune. Or Uranus or Pluto. Planets whoes longer cycles were unknown to our founders.
I told my dad about how in four years oyr coubtry will have Pluto right back at the start.
And another cycle will begin.

Well he was mesmerized and wgen I was done saud that his time was over and he wont be around for this new cycle.

For most all my life...my father would have called me crazy and stupid and national at the end of such a story.
Not this time.
I found the right words and tone and time and I was able to honestly and clearly articulate my personal views.

My sisters have called to tell me that dad has been going around boasting to anyone and everyone about me and my ideas and how smart and wonderful I am.

Sure would be nice to hear that myself.

Steve I would love to hear of your experience with geomancy. I looked it up and it looks complex and drawn out. Im always interested in learning about bew things.

I am so glad that you listened to the oracle when it spone to you. That was a beautiful thing you did by empiwering those women. Thank you. The world needs much more of that trust.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:13 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
My ex's father never said much of anything to him, good or bad. But he told me, and his mother and his brother, who his father also never said much to, told me how proud of him he was. How he bragged about him to his friends. How he kept the marksman medals he got when he was eleven, going against grown men.

I was able to tell him. Sometimes people, men, can't say what they want to to the person they are proud of. Be glad you have sisters who can tell you. It's not an insult. It's a gift. For both of you.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:25 am
by SteveS
Veronica wrote:
I looked it up and it looks complex and drawn out. Im always interested in learning about new things.
Yes, it does look complicated on first look, but really---itā€™s not, itā€™s quite simple. All you do is take a lead pencil and a sheet of paper and when your mind is calm with no clutter in a very quiet setting quickly make 16 rows of dots in order to produce 4 sets of symbols depending if the total number of dots in the 16 rows adds up to be an odd or even number. Personally, I did my one divination by geomancy when I first woke up with the 16 rows of dots. This took about a minute to do in semi unconscious way, somewhere on that fine line between subconscious and waking to our mental plane. You want your mind as close to the non-waking mental plane as possible meditating about your question for the Oracle as much as possible before you fall asleep. Then using the book you have interpretations of the 16 symbols produced with the 16 rows of dots. You may not understand the answer the Oracle gives right away, but usually later in a flash of intuition you will realize/see/understand the Oracles answer in order to put a plan into operation in order to possibly solve a life problem or ask questions about certain people close to you. Or, it could be about new people you meet. Personally, my understanding of the book, you get better answers with the major problems your life encounters.

The reason you want your mind as close to the non waking conscious as possible because this is where the divine can more easily channel through the Oracle of geomancy. This principle was well known/understood by the ancient Egyptians. Mummies were found depicting by fine linen covering the cranium depicting the double uraeus that marks the scissure between the two hemispheres of the brain.
The symbolique of ancient Egypt shows the deeper significance associated with the endeavor to eliminate the mental plane. Upon the Neterā€™s head, as on that of the King, a band or diadem is placed, marking off the cranial skull cap, that part of the brain which commands personal decisions. This separation leaves these beings with the vital centers of the encephalon only, so that they may be inspired by spirit (the divine) alone.

The ancient and mysterious system of geomancy holds keys for self-discovery and to understanding today and predicting tomorrow. It offers a new perspective, a different approach to problems you canā€™t always solve the step-by-step Western intellectual way.
Veronica, reading all your posts over the past years I have always felt you greatest asset is you intuition and it seems to me elemental divine beings are close to you at certain times. You just need to learn to better channel your assets you were born with, geomancy could hold a key for you approaching certain issues in your life in a more harmonious way. If you get the book, let me know for I have some other suggestive techniques for easier faster usage and you would probably see/understand better usage with creative side.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:55 am
by Veronica
I 2as very interested Steve when you originally told me not to get excited.

Im going to be honest and admit that I feel divine elemential beings around me. All the time.
Ive learned and looked into divination my whole life to try and make a bridge to understand what that is that I feel and how. When Im quiet I know things somehow that I dont have words to express except Yoga.

Yet through all the charts and tea cups and crystal balls and dots in sand the mundane facts that come through, the winning lottery numbers, the letter in the mail, the right place right time events pale completely to the more important one.....we are not alone.

I realized the other day when one by one I found 3 dimes in wierd places. Dimes from my nephew on the other side who talks to us by leaving us dimes. And when my gut felt punched one the 3rd and I broke down and called his mother only to be greeted by her happily telling me about the beautful dream she just had about her son coming home.....
I realized that sometimes people die so that the living have them to learn to open up to the idea that death is not the end and that life goes on and what you do and say while you live matters.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:02 am
by SteveS
Geomancy is one of the three classical methods of divination, and like the Tarot or astrology, is a foundation stone of western occult practice.
When I got my one answer from the Oracle of Geomancy in 1988 and executed a plan pertaining to it's answer, the best word I can describe with the effects of that executed plan was---magical.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:14 pm
by Veronica
Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:13 pm

I was able to tell him. Sometimes people, men, can't say what they want to to the person they are proud of. Be glad you have sisters who can tell you. It's not an insult. It's a gift. For both of you.
Thank you for sharing and saying this.
It does feel true, even though I didnt feel gifted when I heard it. I didnt feel insulted either. I felt sad.
Sad that he isnt comfortable to say it directly.
But your right that it was/is a gift in that he felt so strongly about his feelings/opinion of me that he told the one person he knew would tell me.
It feels in a way that he loves me so much that he has to difuse or redirect that love through another chanel so it gets to me because if he was to tell me directly it would be too much for me/ ie it would distort my archtypical notion of the Supreme Paternal figure and make him seem weeak or vunerable.

There really seems to be a much deeper function going on when a person is not able to be open and direct with thier feelings and thoughts.

Thank you for letting me know its not just me.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:50 pm
by Veronica
Steve
Thank you very much for sharing geomancy with me.
Its odd that I have never come across it before. It reminds me of some other tools though like the I Ching and dice. I read some texts by Agrippa on Princeton s website so I got a good enough feel for it to do a reading for myself.
It told me to count my blessings.


My sisters tumor in her liver is much worse.
They told her to get things in order and arrange pallitive care. Her SSR wuth double saturn on angles with her solar arc sun on her natal saturn......and neptune coming upon the moon.

Shes in a lot of pain.
Im going to have to have heart to heart talk with her.

Steve I appreciate you showing me another language to bridge the worlds with. Geomancy is a binary on off code like dna. What it feels like it is ...is 8 pairs of opposites which give 16 core vocabulary words.

My sister and I have a very surreal psychic connection at times and I am going to work with her so that when she dies she can tell me all about it and still talk to me everyday like we do...silly girl chit chat bla bla bla talk that seems meaningless but is gold.

I hate to think that in my upcoming ssr the moon on my saturn is mourning for her but it very well may be.
My other sister in law has cancer now too and is having kindey failure. I think my 2020 ssr with the mars near the angle squared pluto shows loudly close brushes with death.
I
Im going to find out if I can use the family medical leave so I can spend more time with her. I have a month of sick time accrured so I might...cough...cough...not be feeling so well next week.

vortex

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:24 am
by Veronica
Jim said


"BTW, in Pennsylvania you have one fantastic planetary alignment that you should at least find a reason to visit sometime: Your Jupiter and Pluto lines cross a little northwest of Bloomsburg, PA. A little north of Williamsport. If you decide to take a trip, I can work out the fine points for you. Not sure what's there, but it would seem to be something of a personal Jupiter-Pluto vortex."

JIm would you please mind to take a moment to work out these fine points and possibly share with us your understanding of what a personal vortex point is and what it means and how one can use this current.

I have done a looksee on google maps of the region, the terain reminds me of a squad of snakes truthfully which speak to my scorpioness.....

I am getting a gut feeling that this may be some sort of repite place or pilgrimage place for a spiritual healing of sorts.

OI have not ever heard you mention personal vortex points to others, what exactly is this and does everyone have these points and do I have others with other aspects in my chart?

I am thinking of kidnapping my sister and taking her on a road trip to check this out for my birthday possibly, depending on things........ going to Salem to put my Uranus/venus on angle seems like a selfish thing to do if I could possibly help her feel better in any way shape or form.

Re: vortex

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:26 am
by Jim Eshelman
"Personal vortex" is a term I made up and I think you correctly caught the vibe of what I meant. There are many ways Jupiter-Pluto can manifest, of course, and one of them is the sort of spiritual retreat or cosmic connection you mentioned. (Marion has a similar intersection in Wyoming; I suspect she would find that terribly isolated spot to have enormous beauty and connection.) If there were casinos there, it could be the world's best place for you to gamble but, in general, I think you might use it differently.

The exact location depends on exactly how accurate your birth time is. It seems that it's pretty accurate, so let's go ahead. Here's a map of Pennsylvania showing where planets square your natal angles: The crimson and violet lines intersecting are where your Jupiter squares your Midheaven and your Pluto squares your Ascendant not far from Bloomsburg. (The aqua line is Neptune; the dark blue line is Moon.)
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But let's calculate exactly where that is...

Natal Jupiter squares your MC at the longitude where MC is 10Ā°29' Aquarius. That's at 76W36.

Starting at that longitude, we now want to find the latitude at which your Pluto squares Ascendant, which is where Ascendant is 4Ā°46'29" Gemini. By trial and error, I find this at 41N15.

So, get out an Atlas or Google Earth and find 76W36 x 41N15. Here is a link:
https://earth.google.com/web/@41.25,-76 ... ,-0h,0t,0r
A little spot near Lairdsville just south of Beaver Lake and North Mountain.

Ha! As a starting point, Google Earth wants to zoom in on Fairview Church at 41N15'24", 76W34'27". For that exact spot, and if we pretend that your birthtime is accurate to the second of time, you get:

MC 10Ā°31'04" Aquarius
Jupiter 10Ā°29'29" Scorpio

Asc 4Ā°47'42" Gemini
Pluto 4Ā°46'29" Virgo

Slightly more perfect would be some spot about a mile and a half west of there.

I'm splitting hairs. I'm sure you'll intuitively navigate through the terrain.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:28 am
by SteveS
Veronica wrote:
I read some texts by Agrippa on Princeton s website so I got a good enough feel for it to do a reading for myself.
It told me to count my blessings.
Interesting reading and I am sure you understand this reading with your private individual intuitive levels relative to your immediate environment better than anyone else.
V wrote:
Steve I appreciate you showing me another language to bridge the worlds with. Geomancy is a binary on off code like dna. What it feels like it is ...is 8 pairs of opposites which give 16 core vocabulary words.
Thanks, Yes, I agree. I think the system is a very ancient knowledge kind of like other ancient knowledge's from China/East.
V wrote:
I hate to think that in my upcoming ssr the moon on my saturn is mourning for her but it very well may be. My other sister in law has cancer now too and is having kindey failure. I think my 2020 ssr with the mars near the angle squared pluto shows loudly close brushes with death.
Make sense to me but your keen insights with your immediate environment would definitely know better than me. I think maybe combining your knowledge with Sidereal Astrology and Geomancy may at times offer better clarity for your personal decisions. My best wishes for you and your loved ones.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:52 am
by Veronica
Omg Jim
BINGO!!

Iam so excited about this made up word "personal vortex!" I love that you make up words. Building vocabulary so important to development.....

Wow though I wanted to let you know that not only have I done quite a few fly overs via google earth but devoured several geological and topographical maps and surveys (Omg the curves and crevices are so seductive and glamourous and the waterways and wind lines......its more beautiful to me then any PlayMate model).

I feel like I have had a mini vacation and sabbatical just by researching the area alone without even leaving my home.

How accutely appropriately an area for me to have this vortex. I am grateful that it didnt converge on a metro area.....but given my nature and the nature of Jupiter and pluto.....It wouldnt have.

I lol when you pointed out the church as googles go to place. The thing I love about churches is that they are usually on a graveyard (it was) and are the "memory keepers" of the community...via the detailed records they keep. Very Scorpio ish.

I also spent time researching the Township and the County. Fascinating early history.

I thought that before I blew into a town as an "outsider" "refugee" " tourist" " immigrant" or what ever word the long established community would call me that it would be best and polite and proper to know as much as I could about the place, and in a way, see how I fit in or accentuate or help. I certainly dont want to visit there and stir up a hornets nest or trouble or bother the people who live there.

And that is my issue with moving about the world....and how people now a days just seem to be bop about where ever they please not thinking or caring or concidering thier hosts.....
I often wonder if instead of leaving Europe to settle in America for Liberty the pilgrims worked harder to bring the change they wanted to the land they allready lived.....I feel that in a way those pilgrims were liken to teenage runaways who instead of trying to change thier parents seeming oppression they just ran away.
Which is why I often think and feel that I need to go back to the British Isles and make some sort of peace for my ancestors who felt driven away. Thats what made me think of going to Salem fir my birthday, the place where they landed and tried to find liberty but still got burned alive for being unique.

Any ways....

I wanted to clarify before I do more work with this.....

If I understand what you are saying....on Feb 18 1971 at 12:41pm at that latitude and longitude Jupiter was partile square the MC and Pluto was partile square the AC correct?

What a fun fantastic magical mystery.
My sister is just going to love this whole story and idea. Thank you so very much for mentioning it bc you know I never would have caught it myself.

That subduction zone called beaver run is just .......yummy

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:54 am
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Maybe you might want to read up on what was happening to the Pilgrims before they left England for the Netherlands, and then why they left the Netherlands to come to a place they knew almost nothing about. I think suggesting they ran away like a bunch of teenagers is very weird. They were being persecuted by the Church of England, imprisoned, driven out of their homes, fined and then their children taken "in payment" to the Church of England.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:16 am
by Veronica
Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:54 am Maybe you might want to read up on what was happening to the Pilgrims before they left England for the Netherlands, and then why they left the Netherlands to come to a place they knew almost nothing about. I think suggesting they ran away like a bunch of teenagers is very weird. They were being persecuted by the Church of England, imprisoned, driven out of their homes, fined and then their children taken "in payment" to the Church of England.
Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:54 am Maybe you might want to read up on what was happening to the Pilgrims before they left England for the Netherlands, and then why they left the Netherlands to come to a place they knew almost nothing about. I think suggesting they ran away like a bunch of teenagers is very weird. They were being persecuted by the Church of England, imprisoned, driven out of their homes, fined and then their children taken "in payment" to the Church of England.
Well ya know I have read about all the persecution from that time...and from before and from after. And I still feel that the inner need to get away (fight or flight) is akin to the rebellious teen age angst and collectively our human culture is not mature.
I have run away.
I have fled for fear of my very life from people I loved and cared deeply for. I understand the inner need and drive for self preservation.

But fight or flight is not a proven sucessful path for sucess. Modern science is proving that symboisis and collective bargining and compromise are what evolutionary suceeds (ie mitochondrial cells and human cells...nucleated cells and non nucleated cells forming a working dynamic system of interterdependance).

I persobally understand that they (all migrants) felt no other option. But I also personally believe that there are other options always and that one needs to get out side the box and get outside the personal ego.

Im weird I hear it all the time. I try to find the right words but its hard to put my feelings into form.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:00 am
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
I'm a descendant. And I think comparing people trying to get away from being tortured, imprisoned, murdered and having their children kidnapped to "rebellious teen age angst" is leading you in the wrong direction.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:45 am
by Veronica
Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:00 am I'm a descendant. And I think comparing people trying to get away from being tortured, imprisoned, murdered and having their children kidnapped to "rebellious teen age angst" is leading you in the wrong direction.
You are right. I certainly dont like the choices I made to be compared to willy nilly hormones. Im sorry thats not what I meant. An living organisms has the right and duty to strive to live as best they can and to preserve there autonomy and uniqueness.
If the parent culture or environmental conditions are hostile then leaving the scene is best.
There are only 3 things cells can do in response to stimulus. Nothing. Move toward or move away.
Depending on how the stimulus is perceived determines the motion.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:58 am
by Jim Eshelman
Veronica wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:52 am I wanted to clarify before I do more work with this.....

If I understand what you are saying....on Feb 18 1971 at 12:41pm at that latitude and longitude Jupiter was partile square the MC and Pluto was partile square the AC correct?
Yes. At the moment given for your birth, Jupiter was 0Ā°00' from square MC and Pluto 0Ā°00' from square Ascendant.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:43 pm
by Veronica
Jim Eshelman wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:58 am
Veronica wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:52 am I wanted to clarify before I do more work with this.....

If I understand what you are saying....on Feb 18 1971 at 12:41pm at that latitude and longitude Jupiter was partile square the MC and Pluto was partile square the AC correct?
Yes. At the moment given for your birth, Jupiter was 0Ā°00' from square MC and Pluto 0Ā°00' from square Ascendant.
Thanks! The map was like a light bulb for me showing that moment in time much clearer.

I am fascinated thinking of what another person born there and then would be like compared to me.
Im also curious to read the local news the next day and see what type of mundane events happened and what the weather was. Maybe a freak winter snowstorm.

last LR of my SSR

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:26 am
by Veronica
Well I have my last LR of the year today at 5.
I had planned on going up to Niagara Falls after work,
which would have put Jupiter partile conjunct the DCā€¦.
but it seems that a huge storm is heading that way and I have to be back in town by 11:30pm to pick up my daughter from workā€¦.
so Im only going to Batavia Downs which seems to put Jupiter closer but not as close as Buffalo.
I had wanted to treat myself to a mini vacation. I have some money put aside from some work I had done for Craig back in November, and since it looks like I will be in Mendon for my SSR, I had thought that this LR would be a great little get a way for myself. Iā€™ve been working so hard for so long and havenā€™t really taken any time for myself. Between working full time and helping my dad and sister and driving my daughter back and forth to work at night I am really feeling a bit of a burn out and need a break.
Figures that the angular Jupiter would bring in a huge storm. Iā€™m not taking any chances driving alone though and just have my finger crossed that I am still ahead of the storm enough when I leave.
I didnā€™t see anything in the charts to indicate that it would be dangerous or that I would get in an accident so I am going to take my little trip and listen to some tunes and have a few moments at the casino hoping that the Jupiter will give that special money and little bit of a kick up. I have enough money for all my bills and this money from Craig was a bonus that I was not expecting and thought that I should do something fun and special for myself, as I know that is what he would want me to do and to stop working so hard.

This LR runs through my Bday, I am hoping that it brings in big blessings and a turn of fortune for me.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:00 am
by FlorencedeZ.
Very nice Veronica.
Treating yourself with a a possible benefic influence is awesome.
And how nice you have saved for this, a double bonus.
Is the weather forecast still the same ?

Re: Veronica

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:41 am
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
You got awhile to go before you have to decide whether to try for Buffalo or not. 13 days till your birthday. I know, lake effect snow, but trust the state cops. If they don't close I-90 down, you should be fine.

But you know Amtrak costs $22, one way I think, and takes about an hour and a half. I don't know if you'll want to rent a car but shop around if you do.

Re: Veronica

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:47 am
by Veronica
well its 2:45 and time to punch out so Im going to hit the road and see what happens.

you are right about the i-90 Jupiter and it is patrolled by the state boys so if anything happens at least I wouldn't be on a ditch in the back woods.

woohoo I am so happy and excited the sun is shinning now too:)

Re: Veronica

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:23 pm
by Jim Eshelman
This sounds like a great way to claim that Jupiter!