Jim Eshelman wrote:TheScales_BothWays wrote:Does a country's natal chart/horoscope (presumably the chart of its independence, etc.) tell anything about it?
That's a very insightful way to ask the question. That seems to be
exactly what the primary chart of a country shows - the character of its people, culture, etc.
Other charts may show special features,
e.g., the adoption of a constitution as pertaining to its legal, structural side.
These, however, are controversial. There are multiple opinions of what's valid, and there may *as hinted above) be multiple valid charts for different expressions of a particular country. I still prefer the 1066 chart for Great Britain, but the formal establishment of the United Kingdom produced a chart that Firebrace found extremely effective for modern times. Also, some countries roll over so fast from revolution to coup to uprising that it's hard to keep track of a common thread, and one is tempted to dig for a deeper, more fundamental expression of a people,
Work by Llewellyn George and others, abundant work by Bradley, and my own follow-up for decades leaves about 0% doubt that the correct timing for the U.S. chart for July 4, 1776, Philadelphia, PA is 12:14:42 PM LMT. Many Siderealists also are fond of Helen Boyd's chart for the U.S. declaration of war on England, July 6, 1775, 11:00 AM, Philadelphia.
During the late 1940s, Bradley wrote quite extensively about the above 7/4/1776 chart's description of the U.S. land and character. I've reproduced some of those articles here in the Mundane Astrology section.
Prediction from these is more complicated, so perhaps their best purpose is to show the nation's character. But for big events, they tend to respond quite well. Firebrace wrote a book on England's natal chart plus Sidereal ingresses for predicting the beginning and end of 20th century wars. Bradley was ambivalent about solar and lunar returns for U.S. charts. I've found them highly responsive to transit and progression (at least the U.S. chart) and more often than not responsive to solar returns. I haven't been able to establish that lunar returns are as effective as they are for people, but you might want to take the data above and the lists of events in
Sidereal Mundane Astrology and run, say, the U.S. SLRs before the deaths of U.S. presidents or other pivotal events. One does find things like Mars rising in the SLR before 9/11/2001, though not as closely as one might like.
