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Neptune Aspecting Pluto in SSR Foreground?

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 2:44 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Sep 07, 2011 6:32 pm
Venus_Daily wrote:Hi I was wondering, Next year is the generational transit of Neptune opposite Pluto, and this just happens to fall smack dab right on my mom's Solar ASC/DSC axis, Neptune being on the DSC, with the secondary progressed moon eventually on the ASC squaring this opposition. I've read the transit Neptune=Pluto, but obviously this has much more of an importance since the Solar Quotidian Moon will square the exact opposition, and when the Q2 Moon is on the ASC in Mundo(making the square), the Neptune/Pluto transit is on Nadir/Lower Heaven in oct 2012...and the transit is foreground
IN BRIEF: Deep-rooted psychological evolution. Changes occur in your basic views of life, purpose, and reality; but may not be outwardly visible. Introverted, restructuring attitudes. Spiritual growth.
I read the entire section on this transit, but to me it still seems a little ambiguous
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I know there are lots of other elements to this chart, but this one seems to be the most important, Neptune and Pluto are still somewhat hard to grasp for me, they're like advanced calculus, and put together either transiting together or one transiting each other natally they're just as bad.

Can anyone help, Jim, Steve, any other advanced astrologers?

Re: Neptune Aspecting Pluto in SSR Foreground?

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 2:44 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Jim Eshelman wrote:The transit itself seems vague because (in cases I've seen, plus my own recent experience) it's primarily psychological. Significant changes occur in the deep foundation of the psyche, but this may not appear in the outer world at that time except as a kind of distraction or loss of focus.. that is, of the mind pulling energy to the deeper levels and therefore withdrawing it from full consciousness. For example, one may seem sleepy more of the time.

But this is a setup for potentially significant changes in the few years following.

But when it is foreground in a return chart, you have two additional factors besides the transit: You have natal Pluto foreground, and you have transiting Neptune foreground. Reading those separately will fill in more detail.

In this particular case, you also have the following (just to particularize it a bit more tightly):

r. Pluto conj. Ascendant. Self-discovery. Liberation from inherited attitudes. Existential recognition of yourself as sole monarch of your inner universe. Rebellious, uncooperative; a need to be free of other’s arbitrary values. Pivotal spiritual experiences possible.

t. Neptune conj. Descendant. Quest for something meaningful, probably involving close relationships. Either dissolving rigid views that separate you from others, thus new intimacy; or your prejudices are dramatized and trigger struggles and distress. Sensitive, vulnerable. Perhaps confused relationships, frustration, dependency, disillusionment in relationships, unrealistic views.

Re: Neptune Aspecting Pluto in SSR Foreground?

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 2:45 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Venus_Daily wrote:might the SSR progressed moon possibly provoke some kind of event or reaction in this situation that has arisen from this SSR?

Re: Neptune Aspecting Pluto in SSR Foreground?

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 2:45 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Jim Eshelman wrote:
Venus_Daily wrote:might the SSR progressed moon possibly provoke some kind of event or reaction in this situation that has arisen from this SSR?
As it hits each of the relevant points - s. Neptune, r. Pluto, and possibly their midpoint - it will trigger something. You canm look under the interpretations of s. Moon to s. Neptune or r. Pluto for an indication of what that might be.

Re: Neptune Aspecting Pluto in SSR Foreground?

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 2:46 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Venus_Daily wrote:Thank You Jim, for all of your advice.
My mom has become a big fan of yours too, and we both obtained a copy of your latest book. She is crazy about metaphysics as well, especially the field of earth both entities or spirits as I like to call them.