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My 2015 SSR

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 3:05 am
by Arena
Just want to gather a few points that have already been said about my 2015 SSR, and then at the end of the SSR I will put some highlights of the year in hindsight to learn from.

Ecliptic SSR chart
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Mundoscope
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2015:
Mundo chart has nothing partile on angles, but Saturn within 5° from Dsc and Uranus within 8° from Asc. Although foreground, this is not "outstanding" as it is not partile.
Ecliptic chart main partile aspects are:
Venus cnj Jupiter and they partile square Saturn
T. Moon partile opposite n. Pluto and squares the natal Venus-Jupiter opposition.

I notice the Asc-Dsc axis is very close to natal Venus-Jupiter opposition, but not partile. If I take the placement Borgarnes (where I was on my birthday, then it is even closer to this natal opposition). But the SSR is supposed to take place in 4th August, so not on my birthday.

So the most "outstanding" here is the Venus-Jupiter-Saturn

Steve:
Yes, any outstanding incidents manifesting with your 2015 SSR is foretold with your partile SSR Venus-Jupiter cnj partile 90 SSR Saturn 3,02 cnj Dsc in mundo. The only source I trust to go to for a possible good delineation for this three planet combo is Ebertin (COSI).

Here is what Ebertin says about Venus-Jupiter-Saturn
Inhibitions in love- life, a lack of adaptability, trouble and separation in love, the state of sobering down again, destroyed hopes.

Take Ebertin delineation FWIW, but don’t read any one separate part as the gossip truth for any given situation. Read Ebertin words as only a strong TONE for your 2015 SSR.

With SSR Saturn 3,02 (mundo) from Dsc, this three planet partile aspect appears to be some kind of trouble pertaining to a relationship. With SSR Moon partile 180 your Natal Pluto indicates ‘extremely emotional’ situations. And as you noted this Moon-Pluto 180 forms a Grand Cross with your natal Venus-Jupiter 180. This is definitely symbolizing something important. It could be a malefic situation turning into a benefic situation because your Natal Venus-Jupiter 180 falls near the SSR Horizon. Jim teaches that Natal configurations falling near SSR angles indicate how the native will react to the SSR itself. Also of importance is SSR Uranus is partile 90 SSR MC and cnj SSR Anti-Vertex which is a very potent SSR Uranus. Another very important factor to consider is t. Pluto will be partile cnj your local Natal MC partile square your Natal Uranus and for all of 2015. IMO, you are in for a large does of Uranus-Pluto symbolism which needs to be considered along with your 2015 SSR.
Jim:
If you are in Rvk, your new SSR is primed to turn your reality inside-out with powerful Uranus and Neptune expressions. - The high northern latitude itself is spatially distorting, since the Midheaven and Descendant are only.... 25° apart in the zodiac! So the mundoscope becomes extremely important in viewing this. One uncontroversial point, though, is that Uranus is 0°01' from square Midheaven!

Also, though Moon and Neptune are 21° apart in the zodiac, for Rvk they are 0°46' from exact mundane conjunction.

The other worthy point of the mundoscope is that Saturn is 3°02' from Descendant.

With all of this, the setup that seems to be in place for your new year is your natal near-partile Venus-Jupiter opposition (natally square Pluto) across the new SSR horizon. Saturn is also involved, though. With Rvk Ascendant 0°39' Gemini,

natal Saturn rises with 2°06' Gemini
natal Jupiter sets with 5°23' Sagittarius
natal Venus rises with 18°17' Gemini

... you have a 0°33' Venus-Jupiter conjunction in this SSR, and your own Venus-Jupiter (squared by Pluto) opposition is near the horizon. Furthermore, SSR Moon, regardless of location in the world, is exactly aspecting your natal Venus, Jupiter, and Pluto (orbs ranging from 0°15' to 2°02'), so that natal aspect is really the aspect concentration of the year.

Balancing this, you also have strong Saturn involvement, including partile squares of Saturn to Venus-Jupiter in the SSR itself, transiting Saturn either closely (Rvk) ... and your natal Saturn rising closely in Rvk.
FlorencedeZ:
For your new SSR I wouldn't worry to much about t. Saturn. The aspects Saturn makes to SSR planets and to natal planets are rather wide. Your Moon opposing r. Pluto orb 0'15 and squaring Jupiter orb 0'34 is the main theme of the year in my humble opinion, adding Moon squaring your natal Venus orb 2'01.

Re: My 2015 SSR

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 3:08 am
by Arena
by Arena on Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:11 pm

Just as a "diary" posting I will take note of what is happening right now in my SSR.
The SSR Moon has now progressed into exact opposition of progressed natal Pluto as well as it is touching the Nodes in the SSR.
I am feeling a very very strong urge to move abroad for a few weeks/months, away from my family to just be by myself. This has been building up for a long time, but it's just getting stronger. It is a strong feeling of wanting to be alone and isolate myself from the world. Not that I would like to have that forever, but at this moment I would welcome it.

I also note down here that yesterday I had a kind of "showdown" with a childhood friend of mine. I do not know if that episode will be of a permanent seperative nature or not. I will also note that it was connected to work situation. I wonder if the house placement of the SSR Moon will tell anything about what kind of Moon-Pluto it will be? By whole sign houses (which I use up here in northern latitude) the SSR Moon is in 10th house, opposing Pluto in 4th.

I will also note that today I heard that a colleague of mine came to the office in late hours yesterday and he was intending to kill himself.

So what do I judge? ...is Saturn irrelevant here since it does not aspect those planets in the mundoscope? Why do I want to look so strictly at the mundoscope for angularity, but not for aspects?


Any logical explanation as to why we would look at the mundoscope for angularity, but not for aspects? I am just asking myself, since this angularity issue is of such great importance in the sidereal circles. If I look at a chart and the planets change a lot from ecliptic to the mundo and I am telling myself that now I am looking at the "correct" placement of the planets (mundo) ... but then I disregard the aspects they make in mundo and look to the ecliptic chart for that... the chart I just told myself is the incorrect placement of the planets? Any logic to this?

Re: Arena's 2015 SSR
Postby Jupiter Sets At Dawn on Fri Sep 25, 2015 6:54 pm

The mundoscope specifically shows angularity. It's the planets looked at in the prime vertical measuring system instead of the zodiacal system.

Sometimes we see planets that will contact the angles at the same time, thereby becoming more expressive at the same time, but those are not aspects. They are co-angularities.

Aspects, the planets modify each other's influence. Co-angularities they don't. Both aspects and co-angularities modify you, but the influence is modified differently, sort of like a faucet with one knob to make the steam warmer or colder, or two knobs, one hot and one cold which have to be adjusted individually.

Re: Arena's 2015 SSR
Postby Arena on Fri Sep 25, 2015 7:33 pm

Ok, I guess I will have to keep the ecliptic aspects then ... maybe not such a good idea to bring that Venus-Jupiter to angles this year since they are in partile square to Saturn.

Now I can browse through my new book by Ebertin and see what combinations of three planets will mean. This is not really a good one, like Steve has pointed out for me before.

Ebertin says:
Venus-Jupiter-Saturn
Inhibitions in love life, a lack of adaptability. Trouble and seperation in love, the state of sobering down again, destroyed hopes.

But since I also have these planets all on the angles in Rvk as well, just my natal Venus-Jupiter coming to angles along with Saturn instead of the SSR Venus-Jupiter. I think this combination is already in expression.

Re: Arena's 2015 SSR
Postby Arena on Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:39 pm

This post is just supposed to be of a "diary" kind of nature.

It is now a little over 3 months into my current SSR and what I feel is the most important of all that is shown in this return is the Uranus going through endless circles of planning our relocation.... and also the Jupiter-Venus-Saturn symbolism that Steve pointed out from Ebertin, mostly in the area of "sobering down" from the idea of being with another man - and deciding to stick with the father of my children for practical reasons. But I have to state that it did help a whole lot that he showed me that he is willing to move abroad with me (me being the Uranus bully these days/months).

I do not see any Jupiter-Venus symbolism manifest, so it must be tied in with that Saturn and also to that Moon-Pluto opposition that can be descriptive of me separating myself from the current life here and possibly from my oldest son that says he wants to stay with his father, and not move abroad. I've also gone through some thought process of not being attached to anything or anyone, so it makes it a lot easier to decide relocation.

Re: Arena's 2015 SSR
Postby Arena on Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:32 pm

I thought I should put this post in here as well to follow the progress of this year's SSR, since it also describes my current SSR (for both recorded and possible rectified birth times). Both will show a Saturnian, Plutonian and Uranian symbolism. It is all there in what's happening this year.

Well, I don't know if this is a progressed event, I think it is more like a combination of a few different astrological symbolism. But this period sure is trying and straining on relationship matters.
Last night my partner and I had a fight again and he said he wanted to divorce/separate. Lots of different astrological symbolism I can see to explain this, one is Mars on possible relocated rectified DSC for myself or Saturn, I can also see the progressed hard symbolism with Moon opposite Saturn and square Mars and in his chart I see the SSR progressed Moon square SSR Pluto (not exact, but it happens in March). But then I see his pr. SSR Moon coming into conjunction to Mercury and sextile to Venus in May ... so I believe that will be better times. My relocated 7th house is his natal 4th house. I can also see my SSR Pluto conjunct my possible MC.

He started talking about custody matters and dividing our properties. I just ignored him and told him that I would not discuss such matters until he had made up his mind and made a final decision and told the children about it. I also told him that I had already made my decision and it was to relocate and take on new challenges, changing our lives - and I would not speak about divorce until that had been tried, but if he wanted to divorce, then he just had to make up his mind. He calmed more down later in the night and came to a similar conclusion that I usually do, that it is best for the children if we try to just stick through this. I made up my mind to just try to stick through all this as I know there is better times ahead (astrologically) - but it sure is heavy. If I did not have astrology to understand all this and to see what is ahead, I would possibly make other choices. In this matter, astrology is helping me to believe in better times ahead (although I know I will also again have another difficult period when t. Saturn will pass over my n. DSC and MC next year).

Re: Arena's 2015 SSR
Postby SteveS on Thu Mar 31, 2016 3:25 pm

Arena wrote:
I thought I should put this post in here as well to follow the progress of this year's SSR, since it also describes my current SSR (for both recorded and possible rectified birth times). Both will show a Saturnian, Plutonian and Uranian symbolism. It is all there in what's happening this year.

Yes, and again your SSR demonstrates one of Jim’s main teaching principles with SSR’s:

Foreground planets, both natal & solar, set the tone/theme of the entire period covered by a Solar Return. All other planetary aspects manifest within the context of these tone/theme setters.

Using your 23:40 time, your mundo solar Saturn was 3,03 cnj SSR Dsc. Your mundo relocated natal Saturn 3,01 cnj your SSR Asc. We see here a double whammy of Saturn being the closest mundo planets to your SSR horizon (primary angles) expressing Jim’s teachings:

If the same natal & solar planet is foreground in the SSR, it takes on special significance as a theme planet.

Also your 2015 SSR shows the vast importance of Fagan’s Mundoscope which shows us the true position of a planet to our primary angles. Without the Mundoscope the astrologer does not see/realize the double whammy of Saturn for your 2015 solar year. As you aptly pointed out in another recent post: “We can’t control the manifestations.”

But, IMO, when we see the main manifestation from our return charts, transits, progressions we, as astrologers, are then in a better position to possibly choose how we want to further react for our immediate future to the manifestations.

Re: Arena's 2015 SSR
Postby Arena on Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:24 pm

But, IMO, when we see the main manifestation from our return charts, transits, progressions we, as astrologers, are then in a better position to possibly choose how we want to further react for our immediate future to the manifestations.


Exactly Steve, this is why I said that astrology is actually helping me in my view, because I can see that the stars are going to deliver something brighter at the end of this year - hence I do not want to make any rash decisions and am trying to stick through the bad times. And even though I do not have a clue what is ahead I just try to hold on to this belief in the brighter times, everything in my life seems to be unsure now, relationship, job, home, money. And even though some of it is my own doing, like quitting job, relocating and therefore making the insecurity myself, I can clearly see how the astrological symbolism is controlling the flow of events.

by SteveS on Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:45 pm

Arena wrote:
...hence I do not want to make any rash decisions and am trying to stick through the bad times.

That is all we can do---try to implement damage control and wait out the bad "times".

Re: Arena's 2015 SSR
Postby Arena on Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:19 am

Just for the sake of recording this SSR. Last night another angry argument. I consider them Martian and Saturnian influences in astrology.
In this case I see that t. Mars at 4° Scorpio is now transiting a sensitive point in my SSR, it conjuncts SSR Saturn and trines the SSR Moon and Mars.

T. Mars is now on the midpoint between partner's Mars-Uranus that are at 1 and 7 degr. Scorpio.

We fight about him wanting a precise excel plan (too precise and security addiction driven imo) and me wanting the opposite, ready and wanting to go into the uncertainty of the future, wanting to just see what I stumble upon without having a precise plan. I want and celebrate surprises, he doesn't.
I feel I am doing more compromises and I don't like it, since he gets his way with security addiction.

Re: My 2015 SSR

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 3:21 am
by Arena
From another thread about my SSR
by Arena on Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:20 pm

There is both positives and negatives about this SSR.

The reason I ask is because I myself am inclined to think differently about a Moon-Pluto opposition when it is also connected to Venus and Jupiter. I would think it gives a more positive streak/effect than just plain and simple Moon-Pluto.

I also tend to think differently of Moon-Saturn, than Moon-Saturn-Mars ... with Mars added into the equation I get a picture of a possible accident or attack of sorts. With only Moon-Saturn I would think more in line of feeling sad, lost, down, emotional difficulties.... but Mars adds something else.

Re: My 2015-2016 SSR - reason to worry or celebrate?
Postby Venus_Daily on Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:45 pm

Moon/Pluto alone is radical transformation, it does tend to get colored by planets on an angle, can't attest to partile aspects

Re: My 2015-2016 SSR - reason to worry or celebrate?
Postby SteveS on Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:31 pm

Jim teaches us to read a SSR twice, once as a stand alone chart, twice as a transit chart with our natal chart. Jim writes:

Solar Returns are transit-based techniques. They arise from a precise aspect (conjunction) of the transiting Sun with the natal Sun. They consist of transiting planets at a given moment in time, near or on one’s birthday, locked into collusion with natal planets for a year to follow.


Jim also teaches:

Partile aspects reign supreme.

So, with Arena’s new 2015 SSR, we see her SSR Moon partile 180 her Natal Pluto forming a grand cross with her natal T-square of Venus-Jupiter with Pluto. Since her SSR Moon is partile 180 her natal Pluto, this ‘locked into collusion’ for a solar year should ‘reign supreme.’ Whatever her new SSR brings into her life, she should react to these new influences with her T-square of Venus-Jupiter-Pluto. Her natal Venus-Jupiter opposition falls in the foreground of her SSR horizon, which should offer some type of a benefic reaction. The SSR itself promises no ‘outstanding incident.’

Re: My 2015-2016 SSR - reason to worry or celebrate?
Postby Arena on Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:44 am

Ok, I see what you mean Steve, that there is no outstanding incident even though SSR ASC comes so very close to natal Venus and therefore activates that natal T-square ... that because the aspects between them are not within 1° (partile) then it will not manifest in anything "outstanding" ...but would probably give a pleasant year.

Natal Venus is the most angular ... next is Jupiter which makes partile aspects to the SSR Moon and natal Pluto ...but because Jupiter is not within 1° from SSR Dsc, it is not going to be "outstanding".

There seems to be one aspect in the SSR that is both tightly angular and also in partile aspect to a natal planet.
It is SSR Uranus conjunct SSR EP and in partile aspect to natal Mercury if I am seeing this correctly.

I see that SSR Pluto is partile conjunct relocated MC. Might mean changes in work.

Re: My 2015-2016 SSR - reason to worry or celebrate?
Postby SteveS on Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:20 pm

I read your 2015 SSR as experiencing exciting (Uranus) situations stimulating intense emotional feelings/emotions with sobering effects (SSR Venus-Jupiter partile cnj partile 90 SSR Saturn) probably experienced on a couple of Q days (no big deal). On balance the SSR is benefic with your Natal Venus-Jupiter opposition falling across your SSR horizon.

by SteveS on Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:48 am

The partile Moon-Pluto aspect would be the only symbolism to maybe "worry." Never underestimate hard-core Pluto symbolism. But, this could be something good. I certainly don’t consider your 2015 SSR affecting you psychologically in a major malefic manner. Is there anything going on in your immediate environment for cause to worry? By your prior posts you seem to be living a normal stable life. IMO, the most important aspect going on your life is the transiting Pluto partile cnj your local MC partile 90 your Natal Uranus. This aspect alone is enough to symbolize a major change of sorts but I agree with Jim--I like Uranus-Pluto symbolism as long as major (angular) Mars or Saturn is not attached to any of the stack of charts.

by Arena on Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:57 pm

So this SSR is more than half way through, and has had it's ups and downs as many of you know already.

The Saturn on angle is getting to me I think, as well as angular Pluto and Uranus. This is indeed a year of change. At some points it has seemed like it could be a year of separation as well, but I am now hopeful that we will come through it together as a couple. The separation will be from my oldest son when we move abroad.

However, I just wanted to make a quick point in here. That SSR Moon to n. Pluto opposition this year can not be viewed as a lone aspect. I believe that it is forming a grand square and we have to look at the natal Venus-Jupiter that comes into that square. I think it has shown me that this "outside" Moon in the SSR is not necessarily my own feelings in the matter, but it seems like I got some quite emotional (over)reactions from other people and I just didn't get why they got so emotional. I have had conflicts this year with people, two of them my friends for decades. I don't know if it will indeed be a turning point in our friendship, maybe even a closure, because in those matters we just did not comprehend one another. Time will tell. But that SSR Moon being connected to the Venus-Jupiter/Pluto T square in my chart certainly brought about things that have to do with friendships and relationships, I guess in a conflict kind of way since the Moon was opp Pluto.

The demi SSR happened 31st January. It has a different feel to it. It has the SSR Moon almost exact on IC (29,54). That Moon is progressing into a partile square to the SSR Sun, as we speak and progresses into an exact square with the SSR Sun in the beginning of June. The demi SSR Sun is within 3° square to the SSR MC. I must add that I see also the Mercury, Pluto conj. close to n.MC and Venus close to n. DSC while Uranus keeps squaring the n. MC. So a square involving Mercury, Pluto and Uranus are acting on the natal chart angles.
(The alternative rectified chart shows the Moon over 6° from IC, but it brings the Vx closer to Mercury ... and I just sent an application for a master study to Edinburgh, which I don't know if it is an indicator for the rectified chart or not).

by Arena on Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:50 pm

The SSR Moon this time around is in grand trine to Mars and Saturn. When I progress it, the timing of exact trine to Saturn certainly marks the period of sadness and separation when I quit my job and when my partner was thinking about divorce. Since I've experienced Moon-Saturn symbolism now in recent years with a conjunction when my mother died, I would say that that one is more grave/serious than the trine, but the trine does certainly leave it's mark as well, just not as serious. I would not call them harmonious in the cases of malefics, but rather "less severe".

I know you don't look at trines as important Jim, but I keep seeing patterns of trines marking important times for me.