Argentina's Default
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Argentina's Default
Post Posted Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:18 am by Debbie
Brazil defaulted on it's debt on July 31. This happened because 2 hedge funds refused to negotiate on bonds they owned. This could cause widespread inflation in Brazil and affect many of it's trading partners. It's kind of a big deal in a world full of big deals right now.
I thought I would try to assemble some SMA teachings and see if I am on the right path.
All aspects are for Buenos Aires,
Capsolar = Uranus/Pluto (Moon-Jupiter)
Caplunar= Neptune (Mercury-Venus) Could this represent the problem with money managers?
CapQ= Sun oppose Moon MC/IC
The next Caplunar on 8-9 has Neptune square AC (over 2 degrees) as only angular with a Moon/Venus opposition. This could show some efforts to resolve this crisis by big bankers but...
The 8-22 Canlunar has Saturn/Mars (Sun) Uranus 135 Sun.
I don't think this default is going to be resolved easily if at all.
Would someone check my work, please? I have a long way to go with my learning.
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Re: Brazil's Default
Post Posted Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:42 pm by Jim Eshelman
Glad to see you diving in.
Uh, one thing: Buenos Aires is in Argentina. It was Argentina that defaulted.
Debbie wrote:
Capsolar = Uranus/Pluto (Moon-Jupiter)
The Capsolar occurred January 15, 2014, 1:31:38 AM BZT2 (+2). The first thing I notice is that Saturn is rising, looks close to the Ascendant. Checking the Mundoscope, I see that it is more than 3° away so, despite its seeming perfection, the Capsolar chart is dormant. To the extent that there is a small effect, it's that rising Saturn. (Yes, the Moon-Jupiter-Pluto is affecting the whole world also.)
Caplunar= Neptune (Mercury-Venus) Could this represent the problem with money managers?
Bingo! If you check the Mundoscope, in fact, you'll see that, for the standard coordinates for Buenos Aires, Neptune is 0°00' from the IC. Mercury and Venus straddle the Descendant. This probably does describe the manager in this case, though it's also worth noting that Neptune and Saturn are (more or less equally) the two most angular planets for financial crises. The Neptune is descriptive on so many levels.
Good catch, that.
You can also add the Canlunar - the "chart of the week." It occurred July 26, and has Saturn less than 2° from Westpoint. So the Caplunar gave the Neptune and the Canlunar gave the Saturn.
CapQ= Sun oppose Moon MC/IC
Which Moon? Capsolar Moon is in Gemini. Transiting Moon was in Virgo.
The CapQ is really straightforward: Transiting Saturn exactly squares CapQ MC. Capsolar Saturn is exactly on Capsolar Westpoint. Double-bang Saturn.
Would someone check my work, please?
Done. Happy to help. Recheck yourself on that CapQ. Have fun with this!
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Re: Brazil's Default
Post Posted Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:15 pm by Debbie
Thanks Jim,
I will recheck my work per your suggestions and keep plugging away. I am new to solar fire and I found one mistake. On the Capsolar I forgot to hit the relocation button.
It messed up my CapQ.
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Re: Brazil's Default
Post Posted Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:23 pm by Jim Eshelman
Debbie wrote:
I will recheck my work per your suggestions and keep plugging away. I am new to solar fire and I found one mistake. On the Capsolar I forgot to hit the relocation button. It messed up my CapQ.
Relocating at the time of doing the quotidian is slightly tricky. What I do - for various reasons, including avoiding some mistakes - is I relocate the Capsolar first (and get to see it for the location), and then do the Q on that.
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Re: Brazil's Default
Post Posted Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:25 pm by SteveS
Jim wrote:
The Neptune is descriptive on so many levels.
Much truth here when applied to any type of speculation (Neptune) with markets.
Jim wrote:
So the Caplunar gave the Neptune and the Canlunar gave the Saturn.
This is what I am seeing with my limited research—non-dormant lunars start pilling-up in a month’s time frame showing either malefic or benefic symbolism for important tops & bottoms in markets.
Jim wrote:
The CapQ is really straightforward: Transiting Saturn exactly squares CapQ MC. Capsolar Saturn is exactly on Capsolar Westpoint. Double-bang Saturn.
If I can find historical daily charts in the Dow, I am convinced you and I are going to be amazed at the Q’s for causing large down/up days in the markets. And we don’t even have a daily view of Argentina Markets.
Debbie wrote:
I am new to solar fire and I found one mistake. On the Capsolar I forgot to hit the relocation button.
Do you remember what I said in my SF teachings to you about: NEVER forget the relocation button—causes more screw-ups than anything?? I made the same mistake when I was first learning--but we learn from our mistakes.
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Re: Argentina's Default
Post Posted Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:18 pm by Debbie
SteveS wrote:
Do you remember what I said in my SF teachings to you about: NEVER forget the relocation button—causes more screw-ups than anything?? I made the same mistake when I was first learning--but we learn from our mistakes.
Sometimes my remember gets broken. I have made this same mistake several times, I'm putting a post-it note on my screen.
My conclusion is stronger now, the default will not be resolved soon, in Argentina not Brazil. This could have a domino effect in other countries.
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Re: Argentina's Default
Post Posted Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:40 pm by Jim Eshelman
For example... the Dow is down again today. So far, 150 points. That's almost 1%.
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Re: Argentina's Default
Post Posted Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:33 pm by Debbie
I owe you and Steve thanks, your Wall Street thread and lunar ingress notes saved me some money.
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Argentina's Default
Post Posted Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:18 am by Debbie
Brazil defaulted on it's debt on July 31. This happened because 2 hedge funds refused to negotiate on bonds they owned. This could cause widespread inflation in Brazil and affect many of it's trading partners. It's kind of a big deal in a world full of big deals right now.
I thought I would try to assemble some SMA teachings and see if I am on the right path.
All aspects are for Buenos Aires,
Capsolar = Uranus/Pluto (Moon-Jupiter)
Caplunar= Neptune (Mercury-Venus) Could this represent the problem with money managers?
CapQ= Sun oppose Moon MC/IC
The next Caplunar on 8-9 has Neptune square AC (over 2 degrees) as only angular with a Moon/Venus opposition. This could show some efforts to resolve this crisis by big bankers but...
The 8-22 Canlunar has Saturn/Mars (Sun) Uranus 135 Sun.
I don't think this default is going to be resolved easily if at all.
Would someone check my work, please? I have a long way to go with my learning.
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Re: Brazil's Default
Post Posted Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:42 pm by Jim Eshelman
Glad to see you diving in.
Uh, one thing: Buenos Aires is in Argentina. It was Argentina that defaulted.
Debbie wrote:
Capsolar = Uranus/Pluto (Moon-Jupiter)
The Capsolar occurred January 15, 2014, 1:31:38 AM BZT2 (+2). The first thing I notice is that Saturn is rising, looks close to the Ascendant. Checking the Mundoscope, I see that it is more than 3° away so, despite its seeming perfection, the Capsolar chart is dormant. To the extent that there is a small effect, it's that rising Saturn. (Yes, the Moon-Jupiter-Pluto is affecting the whole world also.)
Caplunar= Neptune (Mercury-Venus) Could this represent the problem with money managers?
Bingo! If you check the Mundoscope, in fact, you'll see that, for the standard coordinates for Buenos Aires, Neptune is 0°00' from the IC. Mercury and Venus straddle the Descendant. This probably does describe the manager in this case, though it's also worth noting that Neptune and Saturn are (more or less equally) the two most angular planets for financial crises. The Neptune is descriptive on so many levels.
Good catch, that.
You can also add the Canlunar - the "chart of the week." It occurred July 26, and has Saturn less than 2° from Westpoint. So the Caplunar gave the Neptune and the Canlunar gave the Saturn.
CapQ= Sun oppose Moon MC/IC
Which Moon? Capsolar Moon is in Gemini. Transiting Moon was in Virgo.
The CapQ is really straightforward: Transiting Saturn exactly squares CapQ MC. Capsolar Saturn is exactly on Capsolar Westpoint. Double-bang Saturn.
Would someone check my work, please?
Done. Happy to help. Recheck yourself on that CapQ. Have fun with this!
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Re: Brazil's Default
Post Posted Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:15 pm by Debbie
Thanks Jim,
I will recheck my work per your suggestions and keep plugging away. I am new to solar fire and I found one mistake. On the Capsolar I forgot to hit the relocation button.
It messed up my CapQ.Post details | Select:
Re: Brazil's Default
Post Posted Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:23 pm by Jim Eshelman
Debbie wrote:
I will recheck my work per your suggestions and keep plugging away. I am new to solar fire and I found one mistake. On the Capsolar I forgot to hit the relocation button.
It messed up my CapQ.Relocating at the time of doing the quotidian is slightly tricky. What I do - for various reasons, including avoiding some mistakes - is I relocate the Capsolar first (and get to see it for the location), and then do the Q on that.
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Re: Brazil's Default
Post Posted Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:25 pm by SteveS
Jim wrote:
The Neptune is descriptive on so many levels.
Much truth here when applied to any type of speculation (Neptune) with markets.
Jim wrote:
So the Caplunar gave the Neptune and the Canlunar gave the Saturn.
This is what I am seeing with my limited research—non-dormant lunars start pilling-up in a month’s time frame showing either malefic or benefic symbolism for important tops & bottoms in markets.
Jim wrote:
The CapQ is really straightforward: Transiting Saturn exactly squares CapQ MC. Capsolar Saturn is exactly on Capsolar Westpoint. Double-bang Saturn.
If I can find historical daily charts in the Dow, I am convinced you and I are going to be amazed at the Q’s for causing large down/up days in the markets. And we don’t even have a daily view of Argentina Markets.
Debbie wrote:
I am new to solar fire and I found one mistake. On the Capsolar I forgot to hit the relocation button.
Do you remember what I said in my SF teachings to you about: NEVER forget the relocation button—causes more screw-ups than anything?? I made the same mistake when I was first learning--but we learn from our mistakes.
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Re: Argentina's Default
Post Posted Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:18 pm by Debbie
SteveS wrote:
Do you remember what I said in my SF teachings to you about: NEVER forget the relocation button—causes more screw-ups than anything?? I made the same mistake when I was first learning--but we learn from our mistakes.
Sometimes my remember gets broken. I have made this same mistake several times, I'm putting a post-it note on my screen.
My conclusion is stronger now, the default will not be resolved soon, in Argentina not Brazil. This could have a domino effect in other countries.
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Re: Argentina's Default
Post Posted Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:40 pm by Jim Eshelman
For example... the Dow is down again today. So far, 150 points. That's almost 1%.
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Re: Argentina's Default
Post Posted Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:33 pm by Debbie
I owe you and Steve thanks, your Wall Street thread and lunar ingress notes saved me some money.