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Donald Trump SSR 2015
Post Posted Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:56 pm by StarAgeWiz
Donald Trump
6-14-1946
10:54 am EDT -AA-
Queens, NY
Natal Asc: 6deg. Leo, Sun: 29deg. Taurus opp. Moon: 27deg. Scorpio...Full Moon (Narcissistic - Condescending)
Mars Rising 3deg: Leo, Aggressive, "In Your Face" approach to life.
2015 SSR 6/15/2015 just prior to his announcement to run for President.
Solar Mars : 29deg. Taurus igniting his natal Sun/Moon opposition firing up a very aggressive campaign.
Notice also Trump's angular natal Venus 30deg. Gemini conjunct natal Saturn 2deg. Cancer opp. Solar MC 2deg. Capricorn.
Question is, just how long before Trump flames out like a fizzling rocket? We'll have to wait and see.
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Re: Donald Trump SSR 2015
Post Posted Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:08 pm by Jim Eshelman
StarAgeWiz wrote:
Question is, just how long before Trump flames out like a fizzling rocket? We'll have to wait and see.
I didn't realize the original A-rated birth time had been updated by an hour and a half. Thanks for that. Mars rising fits him well.
So... how long, you ask?
Neptune squares his SQ Moon July 9 to August 12. That might be an embarrassing time or just a dog and pony show. Similarly, it squares his SSR Moon August 20 to February 7, so he's under a lot of critical Neptune for the next several months. In the middle of it, Saturn opposes his SSR Moon November 23 to December 10.
I think Neptune and Saturn both to his SSR Moon November 23 to December 10 marks a series "take him down a notch" period.
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Re: Donald Trump SSR 2015
Post Posted Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:59 am by SteveS
Thanks Star Age for the AA time and your analysis of the the chart which I agree. Las Vegas has Donald at 2,500-1 odds to win the election, and 1,000-1 to win the Rep. nomination.
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Re: Donald Trump SSR 2015
Post Posted Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:20 pm by FlorencedeZ.
...technically it were possible with SSR Jupiter foreground.
SSR Jupiter squares ASC 3'00 orb (which I believe is the maximum orb for a square to ASC according to Jim's teachings?) and SSR Jupiter is conjunct r. Westpoint 1'40 orb.regards,
Flo
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Re: Donald Trump SSR 2015
Post Posted Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:44 pm by Jupiter Sets At Dawn
Jim Eshelman wrote:
I think Neptune and Saturn both to his SSR Moon November 23 to December 10 marks a series "take him down a notch" period.
There's going to be a debate sometime in November, held somewhere in Wisconsin (this is what it says on the Republican party schedule, don't ask for more detail, please) to air on the Fox Business Network.
See http://www.uspresidentialelectionnews.c ... -schedule/ for what little info there is.
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Re: Donald Trump SSR 2015
Post Posted Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:18 am by SteveS
I have just looked at Trump’s next years 2016 SSR and noticed a striking feature. Trump was born with a partile “Thank you Lord” 120 Jupiter Uranus aspect. AND his 2016 SSR Moon is partile cnj his Natal Jupiter. If this is indeed an AA birth time there will be high probabilities Trump will at least win the Rep Party’s Nomination. Here is what Donald Bradley has to say about major Moon-Jupiter aspects in a SSR:
When Jupiter and the Moon are in major aspect, the native’s worldly standing is bettered, and he has cause to be enthusiastic. A candidate for public office can hardly expect election if Moon-Jupiter configurations are lacking in his return charts.
Hmm, last week Trump was a Vegas +1500 to win Rep. This week a +700.
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Re: Donald Trump SSR 2015
Post Posted Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:41 pm by SteveS
As most regulars on this Forum know, I am a serious student of Jim’s teachings in his book ‘Interpreting Solar Returns.’ Jim states from this great book:
This, then, isolates the solar Moon as the most crucial agent in a Solar Return, after the angles. Lunar aspects to natal and solar planets can never be treated lightly, even when rather wide in orb. So remarkable is this single factor that, if lunar aspects are nearly exact while the foreground planets are not exceptionally close to the angles, the solar Moon can be considered the primary theme-setter of the chart for the year ahead, bar none.
Note: Trump’s 2016 solar Moon is partile cnj his Natal Jupiter with no foreground solar planets “exceptionally close to the angles.”
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Re: Donald Trump SSR 2015
Post Posted Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:56 am by SteveS
There has been some recent discussion about the use of fixed stars in the field of astrology. We can see in Trump’s Natal Chart the Star Regulus rising when Trump was born cnj his rising Mars. Regulus was one of the chief stars paid attention by the ancients having a-lot of symbolism with Kings. We can certainly see this King Maker of Regulus producing a man who has become a billionaire by aggressively (rising Mars) investing in real estate most of his adult life. Trump has become a King with his investments in real estate. Now Trump is attempting to extend his Kingship qualities by becoming the Prez of the USA. Trump has become the media darling dominating (Mars) most all the media’s attention with the current election cycle, and is a great example for the field of main teaching principles for Sidereal Astrology. His closest angular planet is Mars and he has vowed to strenthen our country’s military might. If Trump becomes Prez this rising Mars will be most interesting and maybe ominous during his term, particularily with certain conditions in the World. He is a champion for all military veterans. We can certainly see his rising Mars working when one of his political enemies, which are many, attacks him-- he attacks back, so far, with a winning force (Mars). Look at Trumps Natal Sun in Taurus—he is like a Bull (Taurus) in a China Shop, breaking all the political china that surrounds him. Look at his full Moon in Scorpio—when someone attacks him he is a master at using his Moon Scorpio qualities and stinging that somebody through social media with his Moon Scorpion tail. This Scorpio Moon combined with his rising Mars with the solar power of a rising Regulus is, so far, making him a very powerful dangerous political foe. Trump is a Master at using his natural born Leo Asc for pure showmanship (Leo) qualities, and the Media loves this showmanship quality because it is making the news media a small fortune by selling advertising Adds through their news outlets. The News Media loves Trump and they want to create as much controversy as possible with Trump because this controversy sells the News. Look at Trump’s Venus cnj Saturn—he has been through a very malefic divorce in his life and women in the news media inhibit the hell out of Trump. Striking astrological symbolism which is taking center stage with a huge Leo Regulus spotlight.
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Re: Donald Trump SSR 2015
Post Posted Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:43 am by Arena
For Trump to become prez, we would need to see his SSR being helpful. It has been stated above that Jupiter is now helpful to him on his natal WP, and Steve has stated that next year's SSR will show SSR Moon on his natal Jupiter, which is excellent for success in politics (or whatever endevour).
Have you also looked into his progressions by the method of angles moving about 1° per year? That one should also give some clues as to how he would be doing next year.
I can see that regular sec. progressions show that his ASC would be conjunct pr. Jupiter... but if we would use the method of 1° per year, then that would have happened almost two decades ago. He will be 70 next year, so the only angularity we see with his progressions of MC or ASC by 1° per year is that his pr. MC will be very close to pr. Saturn. Maybe not the best way to succeed in becoming prez. But we do see pr. Sun on his natal ASC, so that would at least be a sign for being in the spotlight.
If Regulus, Sun, Pluto or Jupiter (planets needed for great success) are not angular in any of those, would it be likely that he can become prez, even though his natal chart shows a promise for an enterprising man?
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Re: Donald Trump SSR 2015
Post Posted Wed Sep 16, 2015 9:32 am by SteveS
When we look at Trump’s p. Natal Chart using Naibod in RA we see his p. Jupiter 29,48 Vir partile cnj his p. Asc 29,54 Vir. This once in a lifetime partile Jupiter angular progression will remain partile throughout this election cycle. Put this once in a lifetime Jupiter progression together with his 2016 SSR with SSR Moon partile cnj his Natal Jupiter partile 120 his Natal Uranus and the Sidereal Astrologer can clearly see the astrological why he appears to be running away with the Rep. Nomination. If he becomes Prez, he will run into heavy doses of Saturn, but we need to wait to see if he becomes Prez before we start a discussion about his major cycles as possible Prez.
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Re: Donald Trump SSR 2015
Post Posted Wed Sep 16, 2015 9:58 am by Jim Eshelman
Remember that McCin had a progressed Ascendant to Jupiter (or something like that - would have to double check) peaking near the election he lost. He could have had the wrong rate, or his even-hour birth time could be wrong (though it seems to otherwise behave really well).
What I think was happening with that progression is that, even though he lost, McCain hit the highest point of prestige and eminence of his life simply because he was running. (Progressions are maturations of inherent traits unfolding as a life-arc.) Whether Trump wins the nomination or not, and whether he gets nominated and wins or loses an election, he is very obviously riding very high on his hobbyhorse right now. This is a once in a lifetime high tide for Donald the Surfer.
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Re: Donald Trump SSR 2015
Post Posted Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:41 am by SteveS
We also should not forget t. Jupiter partile/tight 90 his Full Moon during the 5,6,7,8 debates. This important Jupiter transit has high % of wrapping-up the Rep Nom for him, imo. And then t. Jupiter returns to this same position very close to the Rep Convention. Lots of important Jupiter cycles ahead for the Donald.
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Re: Donald Trump SSR 2015
Post Posted Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:59 am by Jupiter Sets At Dawn
I think a candidate having Jupiter prominent has an obvious interpretation that doesn't mean s/he will win. It's being honored publically. Nobody is more honored in public life than being the chosen candidate of one of our political parties. You automatically become a wise person, someone honored in perpetuity, whether or not you win. ETA: Almost exactly the way a clergyman is honored in the breech, if not the observance.
I think having Regulus prominent is a hinderance to being electable in this country. We're not generally interested in installing a king. Trump is fun, and entertaining. But... I guess it depends on if the adults are in charge in Cleveland next July.
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Re: Donald Trump SSR 2015
Post Posted Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:44 pm by SteveS
Also note Spica partile cnj eclipto Trump’s p. Jupiter & p. Asc (Naibod RA).
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Re: Donald Trump SSR 2015
Post Posted Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:29 am by SteveS
Rēgulus is Latin for 'prince' or 'little king'. In Persia Miyan ("the Centre") and also as Venant, one of the four royal stars of the Persian monarchy. In MUL.APIN, Regulus is listed as LUGAL, meaning "the star that stands in the breast of the Lion:the King.".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulus
IMO, when we saw t. Jupiter partile cnj Trump’s Asc and Regulus with the first debate-- this timed Trump taking “the Center” Stage (the spotlight) in the Rep Party. So far, symbolically speaking, the Rep electoral with the public polls appears to be electing Trump to “King” status of the Rep Party (17 who are racing for the Rep Nomination). But I agree with JSAD, it is hard for me to believe this country will elect him as Prez.
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Re: Donald Trump SSR 2015
New post Posted Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:40 am by Jim Eshelman
Jupiter Sets At Dawn wrote:
I think having Regulus prominent is a hinderance to being electable in this country. We're not generally interested in installing a king.
It's at least true that no US president has had Sun or Moon in partile conjunction or opposition with Regulus. The closest - which more or less underscores your point - is that Andrew Johnson had Moon at 5° Taurus (and I'd more call that a Pleiades contact).
This doesn't guarantee anything for the future, of course, but it's what has happened so far.
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Re: Donald Trump SSR 2015
New post Posted Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:46 am by SteveS
Jim, Regulus is partile cnj Trump's Asc. Are their any past Presidents who have 4-6 Leo on their Natal Asc or MC?
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Re: Donald Trump SSR 2015
New post Posted Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:56 am by Jim Eshelman
SteveS wrote:
Jim, Regulus is partile cnj Trump's Asc. Are their any past Presidents who have 4-6 Leo on their Natal Asc or MC?
I'll have to look... but, remember, that needs to be calculated mundanely, not ecliptically, so it means I have to look at 45 charts and pull up ar eport of star parans and filter it... lots of work.
Also, a lot of president birth times aren't as accurate as we'd like, so the answer I'd get for you wouldn't be as reliable as we'd like.
The Presidents that we believe have had Leo on Ascendant or MC:
Leo on Ascendant: George H.W. Bush, Calvin Coolidge, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon.
Leo on MC: None.
OK, not so many to check. LBJ, of course, is well-known, and Fagan made a lot out of his rising Jupiter, Mars, and Sun near Regulus. I'm not sure how we would distinguish a Regulus affect from simply having Sun, Moon, Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, and Ascendant in Leo, with Sun, Mars, and Jupiter conjunct Ascendant
.But, for a 5:44 AM birth time (which is probably about right, but could be a little fuzzy), Ascendant is 4°17' Leo and Regulus is within a degree of Ascendant.All of the others had middle or late Leo rising, so LBJ is the only likely one.
We can expand this by looking for Regulus on the other two main angles.
For Aquarius rising: Warren G. Harding
For Aquarius on MC: James Buchanan, Grover Cleveland, Rutherford B, Hayes, and Theodore Roosevelt.
For the birth information we have, Theodore Roosevelt is the only contender. He had 7°29' Aquarius on MC and Regulus within a degree of IC.
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Re: Donald Trump SSR 2015
New post Posted Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:21 pm by SteveS
Thanks Jim.
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Re: Donald Trump SSR 2015
New post Posted Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:18 pm by Venus_Daily
Positives and negatives of a rising Mars, fighting spirit, with little impulse control. Trump's approval ratings dipped about twelve percent recently as predicted by Jim, I know what it means to have Mars slightly in the foreground, you can come off as very insensitive when you're highly frustrated. I am not defending Trump making fun of a disabled reporter, but I've been known to hit below the belt when I am angry.
Jim Eshelman wrote:
I think Neptune and Saturn both to his SSR Moon November 23 to December 10 marks a series "take him down a notch" period.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/ ... AN20151127
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Re: Donald Trump SSR 2015
New post Posted Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:41 am by SteveS
Indeed, Trump throws a-lot of low punches. I would say Jim's sight with the Saturn-Neptune to his Moon defintely timed Trump's drop in Rueter's poll numbers. For the past 5 weeks Vegas has had the Rep. odds:
Rubio +125
Trump + 300
New odds come out tomorrow--I will check and post. Trump has been stuck in second place behind Rubio not dropping any. In most public opinion polls Trump leads by wide margins over his Rep rivals. The only public opinion poll I pay attention to is the Vegas polls and only near the final election process. If memory is serving me, in the history of Vegas odds for winning Presidents, Vegas has always been correct when a Prez candidate was solidily favored by the Vegas odds the day before the election. Or, in other words, a Prez candidate favored by Vegas the day before the election is a very safe bet.
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Re: Donald Trump SSR 2015
New post Posted Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:56 am by Arena
Jim, as you have gone through in the sports, winning is not a matter of Jupiter - we should rather look into the signs of losing. I believe it is the same in elections and politics. Those running for president probably all have some Jupiter (which is a matter of inflated ego as well
) ...but we should look into the candidates in terms of who has the least losing/malefic aspects.