Solunars by Aldebaran Sidereal Academy

Highest number of boxers in the sidereal sequence are Pisceans, not so deep a mystery as one might suppose on realization that the sidereal concept of Pisces is a far cry from the clammy-handed, soulful-eyed stereotypes in tropical astrology. Pisces can be a real devil, hence its consignment to the pitchfork-wielding Neptune. The legend of imps and demons is directly connected with Neptune-Pisces symbolism. In Manilius' famous old poem, which we often find quotable, war is mentioned only three times, one of which is in his Pisces section: "To fight at sea, to stain the waves with blood, whilst war lies floating on the unstable flood." In fact, it is only under Pisces that he mentioned bloodletting in battle, which is certainly provocative, because his other references to war speak rather of the excitement, clangor and plunder.

jamescondor wrote:I figured Capricorn or Saturn/Mars high on Boxers and devil like. Pisces- sea devil? Ah... I would not have though this. [...] He may have something in the blood shed, clangor and plundering. I can see Pisces as more a scavenger. Parasitic too.

Jupiter Sets At Dawn wrote:Have you noticed anything in particular about planets (and/or luminaries) in conjunction with Venus exaltation?

TheScales_BothWays wrote:I know the Neptune in Pisces would make them love intense feelings and emotional vitality, but why would a Pisces choose boxing for that, instead of drama, debate or anything else less painful? (Am I letting my pain-abhorring Libra self get into play here?)

Why is Pisces associated with blood-letting anyway? James, (and JSAD, if you would like to chime in ) you [both] have your Moon in Pisces, do you feel like being a daredevil at times, and do you tend to not mind risk for emotional/adrenaline reward?

Well I know—and Jim does in his standard interpretation—that angular Neptune people are afraid of rejection and betrayal, (because of emotional insecurity?) so maybe Pisceans are also afraid of it?

Jupiter Sets At Dawn wrote:

Jim Eshelman wrote: (Though I think you'll find the theme of betrayal or being betrayed is more common than the rejection thing as such.)

Yup. Reject me, no hard feelings. Betray me, lie to me, I won't go out of my way to hurt you but if you were drowning, I wouldn't throw you a rope. Actually, I probably would, but the other end wouldn't be tied to anything. Turnabout is fair.

Remember this basic of Pisces Sun or Moon: "Pisces is never more themselves than when they are being somebody else.

This isn't intentional deceit or play-acting, at least not in my case. It's a chameleon thing. When my parents took us on a cross-county trip, everywhere we went people thought my brother and I lived in the area because we picked up the accent so thoroughly and so quickly. Recently I was working with people in Texas over the phone and they thought I was from Texas. It's entirely unconscious, like mirroring in a conversation. I don't assume other people's opinions, but I do pick up their mannerisms and accents without meaning to or realizing I have.