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Timeline on Russian attack on United States

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:12 pm
by Jim Eshelman
The Washington Post has compiled a remarkable time-table, with new details, of the Obama administration's knowledge of Russian intrusion into the 2016 election and their actions and inactions. The article is here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/classic- ... story.html

For my own education, I want to compare what the article says (where there are actual time periods and events) with what I predicted last summer.. because there were many times I was sure the charts showed we were actually under attack. I want to see whether this actually matched what happened.

Here goes...

Re: Timeline on Russian attack on United States

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:18 pm
by Jim Eshelman
"Early last August," the article reports, a highly restricted, cautiously delivered envelope passed from the CIA to the White House - to only be seen by President Obama and three others, and then returned to the CIA. It contained "an intelligence bombshell," and detailed "from sourcing deep inside the Russian government... Putin's direct involvement in a cyber campaign to disrupt and discredit the U.S. presidential race," including his "specific instructions on the operation's audacious objectives," explicitly, to "defeat or at least damage Hillary Clinton and "help elect" Donald Trump.

This doesn't mark the start of the attack, but does mark the start of the White House's detailed knowledge, and a ripening of the CIA's understanding of what was going on. The FBI in July 2016 "had opened an investigation of contacts between Russian officials and Trump associates," and 20,000 DNC emails "were dumped online by WikiLeaks" July 22. But the early August communication showed just how high up the food chain this went.

Regrettably, my first monthly forecasts began just after this, on August 12. It began by reviewing the Year Chart, the Capsolar:
This is a radical, uprooting influence - revolutionary, revising, remapping, anti-establishment, often anti-government, embodying a spirit of revolution that dismantles current systems and tears down iconic structures. Nor is this a gentle revolt: Foreground Mars + Uranus is explosive, unleashing sudden fiery force. These "bombshells" are mostly psychological, but physical explosions will be part of the mix, especially later in the year (e.g., warlike assaults, violence, fires, natural disasters, high profile deaths, and a general sense of crisis).

I also spoke of the long-term Moon-Uranus influence:
From May through October, every lunar ingress has a close Moon-Uranus aspect. Furthermore, July 28 to September 18, CapQ Moon conjoins Capsolar Uranus. In addition to break-out events for women, this aspect, affecting the entire world, indicates sudden, explosive, eruptive, shifting conditions; surprise attacks characterized by their sudden and explosive nature and by rapidly changing conditions that require quick adaptation and reorientation, new learning, and new responses; new technology, new strategic approaches, and new discoveries; and civil instability, including events that mark new levels of human freedom.
Notice that, buried in the last half of that paragraph, is a description of the cyberwar that was being waged actively.

Re: Timeline on Russian attack on United States

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:49 pm
by Jim Eshelman
On August 15, the Homeland Security director "arranged a conference call with dozens of state officials," trying to partner with them in resisting election tampering, and "ran into a wall of resistance," some of it startlingly partisan and dismissive.

August 15 marked the start of a new Caplunar month. The full forecast is here. Based on the Bridge, I wrote the following of the Jupiter-Uranus-Pluto patterns August 15-18, and I think it describes both the backdrop threat and the intensely partisan response:
These planets emphasize revolutionary, revising, remapping, anti-establishment, anti-government, even revolutionary trends that dismantle elements of the current system and tear down iconic structures. Jupiter drives this with ideological passion - most negative events of this time will arise from religious zealotry, highly divergent and competing political polarization, and other ideology-fuelled anchors. Folks align, with populist force, along "our people first!" lines, with a possibility for either great unity or great sectarian division... National pride, patriotism, family, community, and religious zeal mark the time.
The new Caplunar merely reiterated the Uranus-Pluto trends already in place.

"...it was not until after Labor Day [which was September 5] that Brennan had reached all members of the 'Gang of Eight'," the Congressional majority and minority leaders of each house and of the intelligence committees. They were provided the intelligence information. (This is also the meeting described a few paragraphs later as, "In early September.") "The meeting," the Post said, "devolved into a partisan squabble," with Democrats wanting the public told ASAP and Republicans arguing that this would assist Russia's aims of "sapping confidence in the system." Sen. McConnell questioned "whether the underlying intelligence supported the White House's claims." Democrats were stunned at the Republican barricade to action.

This was a volatile time astrologically. Through a math error, I over-predicted for September 11 events specifically, but I'm interested in reviewing how I described the broader time of this event, sometime soon after September 5. The main factor was the August 28 Canlunar, still flowing trough the period, dominated by three malefics, and which I described in the harshest terms. You can reread this for yourself, but I want to highlight one passage (emphasis added):
The most angular planet is not one of the malefics, but Sun, which is only 0°05' from Westpoint for Washington. ...it suggests an attack on the body and soul of the United States government itself.
Under the Bridge, for this time, I overstated the chance of physical violence (mostly because of the math error documented months ago), but I think I caught correctly the sense of attack. I wrote for September 4-12, when this meeting occurred:
...the most volatile and explosive few days of the month... There is considerable concern throughout this entire week.... Mars-Uranus is explosive, with startling violence. Psychological (and sometimes physical) “bombshells” ignite, "fire + explosion" becomes a theme (e.g., literal bombs, vehicular collisions, and surprise attacks as in military assaults or shooting massacres). Prior to mid-October, September 4-12 is the one week or so in 2016 that deserves the most warnings, the most prudence, and the most concern.

Re: Timeline on Russian attack on United States

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:55 pm
by Jim Eshelman
On September 22, two Democrats (Sen. Dianne Feinstein and Rep. Adam Schiff) broke ranks and issued a partial statement of what was occurring, that "Russia was directing a campaign to undermine the election." About a week later, the Republicans "issued a cautious statement" encouraging state election officials to shore up the security on their networks, to make them "secure from attack." Then, in "late September," our various spy agencies "reached unanimous agreement... that the interference was a Russian operation directed by Putin."

All through this time, we were under attack, or on the brink of attack. I kept seeing this in the charts, and not in the papers, and became shy about continuing to say the same thing, over and over, that didn't seem to be happening. But, with what we know now, I assert that we were, indeed, under attack by a hostile foreign party.

Regrettably, in migrating the site, I lost the September 12 to October 9 forecast. I would very much like to compare it to these events, but I guess I can't :( [NOTE: It was recovered from a search engine cache and is reviewed below.]

Re: Timeline on Russian attack on United States

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:05 pm
by Jim Eshelman
As I dig for dates to match against posted and preserved predictions, I'm frustrated by there not being as much as I thought, so I'll leave this as it is. You have the link to the article at the top, and what few pages I could find for comment on the times of events. Sorry we don't have more for checking.

There was one more date of particular note, though. On October 31, "the administration delivered a final pre-election message via a secure channel to Moscow originally created to avert a nuclear exchange. The message noted that the United States had detected malicious activity, originating from servers in Russia, targeting U.S. election systems and warned that meddling would be regarded as unacceptable interference. Russia confirmed the next day that it had received the message but replied only after the election through the same channel, denying the accusation." Last-ditch efforts occurred in the days immediately following, by various parties trying to push the administration to take direct action against Russia, and they all failed. "Election Day arrived without penalty for Moscow."

For the period October 31 to November 5, I wrote of a Uranus-Pluto Bridge zone, "This time especially emphasizes revolutionary, revising, remapping, anti-establishment, anti-government trends that dismantle elements of the current system and tear down iconic structures." For the Liblunar beginning October 29, I wrote,
This new week is no calmer, except that the information storm will have settled down. For the week immediately prior to the U.S. elections... many themes itemized above will continue. Explosive, startling Mars-Uranus highlights surprise attacks and bombshells. Moon square Mars stirs a more physical violence and especially increases the risk of fires and physical harm, with a tone of crisis for those in power. Moon especially stirs a wave of populism.

October 30-31 places Mars on a quotidian angle (with a New Moon conjunct the Mars), and November 1-2 brings two Plutos plus Uranus. Expect the week's shock and impact on these latter days especially.
Well, that's when the administration was as much "in action" as any other point. The public didn't know, of course, and I am unclear whether the prediction is accurate, therefore. I have no doubt, though, that we were under attack and that matters were in a state of crisis in Washington.

Re: Timeline on Russian attack on United States

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:27 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
This related story appears to have a lot more dates in it. Much of it is day by day.

Re: Timeline on Russian attack on United States

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:20 am
by TheScales_BothWays
Jim Eshelman wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:55 pmRegrettably, in migrating the site, I lost the September 12 to October 9 forecast. I would very much like to compare it to these events, but I guess I can't :(
Here's the cached version of that forecast you unfortunately lost. :D You can switch it to the text-only version for a much neater layout.
I'm surprised the cached version's still there...you might want to save that if you feel the necessity to do so... ;)

Re: Timeline on Russian attack on United States

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:51 am
by Jim Eshelman
Thanks, Scales! I did indeed recover and rebuild it from there. Now I can go back and compare it to the September events documented in the above article. I appreciate it :)

Re: Timeline on Russian attack on United States

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:53 am
by Jim Eshelman
Jim Eshelman wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:55 pm On September 22, two Democrats (Sen. Dianne Feinstein and Rep. Adam Schiff) broke ranks and issued a partial statement of what was occurring, that "Russia was directing a campaign to undermine the election." About a week later, the Republicans "issued a cautious statement" encouraging state election officials to shore up the security on their networks, to make them "secure from attack." Then, in "late September," our various spy agencies "reached unanimous agreement... that the interference was a Russian operation directed by Putin."

All through this time, we were under attack, or on the brink of attack. I kept seeing this in the charts, and not in the papers, and became shy about continuing to say the same thing, over and over, that didn't seem to be happening. But, with what we know now, I assert that we were, indeed, under attack by a hostile foreign party.
During this entire time - throughout late August and all of September - there are astrological indicators of being under attack (as well as collateral indicators of, say, the reactions of people in Washington who are informed on this matter).

Reading the Post article, it becomes increasingly clear that one major reason the Obama administration didn't push harder for action sooner is that they were certain Hillary would win the election and everything could be aired afterwards without appearing partisan. In my predictions from the 2016 Cansolar, I emphasized unrealistic optimism in diverse forms as the strongest effect - the only part that I put in bold type. While I thought it would appear as market inflation, this doesn't change the literal words. (My biggest lesson from last year's predictive successes and failures was that I need to pay attention to the literal words I write, and not so much to where I think they're going. The gap is between delineation - laying out what astrological factors mean - and interpretation - rendering conclusions from them. Astrology works pretty flawlessly at this point up to the level of delineation, and then is vulnerable to error in trying to render that, by common sense, into something more specific.)

The Feinstein-Schiff announcement fell under the dormant September 18 Arilunar. The prior Canlunar was a severely threatening chart that persisted for an entire month, which was most of the time when the intelligence community and White House had been wrangling with this and taking no action. Because of lunar aspects to Moon and Venus in the dormant Arilunar, I wrote,
This emphasizes a Venus-Uranus opposition (0°40') felt by the entire world, and slightly closer mundanely for Washington (0°20'). For the world in general, this describes substantial changes in relationships between nations, such as those that inaugurate new war or new peace...

For the world in general, though, the "substantial changes in relationships between nations" is the most likely. What is America's role in this? Given the tone of the Canlunar, the concurrent Mars zone (September 19-20), and the fact that this Arilunar has a 0°38' Moon-Mars mundane square (unique to Washington), we can expect saber rattling at least, if not something more violent or bellicose.
I take the Feinstein-Schiff announcement - that Russia was engaged in a campaign to undermine our election - as actualizing this energy and, especially, as the closest thing to a public statement of being at war with Russia on the matter. The September 22 date was even anticipated, in broad terms:
In particular, on September 24, quotidian angles in Washington touch two Saturns and a Mars. This day (or the wider 2° orb of September 22-29) is highly vulnerable to unusually harsh, severe, deadly, painful, and especially conflictual events for this country fixating the national attention.
The cautious Republican leadership announcement was about a week later, which would have been in the week of the September 25 Canlunar. While the predictive language was, again, sounding like a physical war was upon us, I submit that we were no less at war that week than if bombs were flying - that the attack was no less grievous or deep-cutting than the 9/11 attack (which was more an attack on American culture and values than upon a couple of buildings). The prediction for the week beginning September 25 includes the following:
,,,the new Canlunar has Pluto 0°03' from Descendant (only 0°03'!). With an orb this tight, it is impossible that the U.S. government will not be confronting a major event of mind-stunning, and likely catastrophic intensity.

That was the clear, on-the-head part. The remainder is only accurate if one "reads between the lines," i.e., looks at the astrological energies more than the words of the astrologer. Here, for your independent judgement, is the remainder:
So Mars and Pluto set the main theme for this week. This pair marks violent, ferocious, explosive unleashing of force, such as bombs, vehicular explosions/collisions, wars and similar aggression, shooting massacres, earthquakes, hurricanes, and fires that release explosive force. A Moon-Uranus square reinforces most of these possibilities.

But there is another component. Sun and Jupiter, more distantly foreground, are in close conjunction. When accompanying what are likely harsh, negative events, this aspect is notorious for politics that egg on current circumstances, motivated by a non-philanthropic tendency of people with money and power wanting more money and power (emphasis added). Anticipate issues of wealth, power, and elitism being at the root of this Mars + Pluto explosiveness.

Re: Timeline on Russian attack on United States

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 11:38 am
by Jim Eshelman
I conclude much as I did before: The astrology can be trusted and, in fact, was extremely accurate through this entire period. The astrologer, on the other hand, is the weak link. The more we rely on the root symbolism and verbatim rendering of what is shown, the more accurate the results.

This is what I've done with individuals for decades, holding that we can't tell anyone what is going to happen, though we can usually tell them with high accuracy the nature of the experience they will have at a particular place and time. The best we can do in isolating events per se is common sense rendering of what kind of events would elicit that sort of experience more often than not.

For these mundane forecasts, though, I'm trying to "push the envelope," testing the system (that's the real purpose of these, not to predict as such but to stress-test the SMA system). I want to drive it as far out of generalizations and into specifics as possible. This adds the scope of my imagination as the weak link in accuracy (and one reason for engaging as many of you as possible to look at the same charts at the same time).

In the last several years' work with SMA, I've tried to prepare boiler-plate aspect and angularity interpretations that are a best-fit for the range of phenomena historically observed during their influence, and also most useful in forecasts. They have all the weaknesses of any standardized interpretations (you couldn't list every possible result in a frequently used paragraph, even if you knew every possible result), but they've hit some key successes. In particular, the Sun-Jupiter rendering above is uncannily accurate in describing the Republican leadership actions, and is basic to most Sun-Jupiter mundane phenomena I've seen. OTOH the Mars-Pluto insistence of overwhelming force wasn't literally true. Etc.

It's all a work in progress. I intend to keep driving it in that progress, and renew my invitations to all of you to join in. This Post summation is quite exciting, because it gives a great deal of the "stuff the public doesn't know at the time" content that I've often written impedes us in assessing how we're doing in leveraging the methods of astrology.

Re: Timeline on Russian attack on United States

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 3:47 pm
by SteveS
There is a-lot in your posts here I have often thought about with SMA and DC-- pertaining to the fact that many times-- the actual angular planetary symbolism manifesting in DC does not reach the public-- it it hidden from the SMA astrologer through the complex layers of bureaucracy.

Re: Timeline on Russian attack on United States

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:27 pm
by Arena
:o
:shock:
:?

What next?
Can he still continue to be president?

Re: Timeline on Russian attack on United States

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:47 pm
by Jim Eshelman
For the moment.

Re: Timeline on Russian attack on United States

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:39 am
by SteveS
Arena wrote:
What next?
Can he still continue to be president?
The special council investigation has to run its course to conclusion. If the special council finds enough evidence that Trump & Putin colluded to rig the election in Trump’s favor, then the matter will escalate into more serious legal matters. As far now the 36-page Washington Post story with the timelines that Jim is interested in from a SMA standpoint state on Page 25:
Despite the dire warnings, there were no meltdowns in the United States’ voting infrastructure on Nov. 8, no evidence of hacking-related fraud, crashing of electronic ballots or manipulation of vote counts.
So, far now, there is not enough evidence to actually harm Trump in a serious legal manner. But, it will depend upon what the special council investigation proves. If the Council proves there was any collusion between Trump & Putin, then the matter will escalate into more serious legal troubles for Trump. IMO, if Trump does not die in office due to health problems between now and his 2018 SSR, I think Trump’s 2018 SSR will time when he would be removed from Prez for legal problems. His 2018 SSR has Saturn foreground partile 90 his Natal Neptune. This 2018 SSR Saturn will transit to partile 180 his SSR Moon & n. Mercury in late 2018. Our colleague Donald Bradley has proven to me when it comes to people holding high positions of power with governments, the following combo offers high % timing when a position of power is “removed”:
Saturn-Neptune. A real throne-toppler, this aspect. Among its paramount keywords is “removal,” for forcing resignations, abdications, exiles, deportations, and firings from jobs.
Normally, special council investigations take many months, so if this time frame holds true and Trump does not die in office due to health reasons, then Trump is in his 2018 SSR with a long special council investigation.