Jupiter/Pluto Timing In SLR for Malefic Activity: Update

[Venus_Daily]

First, I wanted to make it perfectly clear that Pluto is still a neutral force, but when inspecting Jupiter on the angles of an SLR under a malefic SSR, it can indicate some bad times. I would imagine that under a benific SSR, with other benifics, or alone, it would probably indicate some good times.

So, in late March, my mother's SSR had a very close T-square on the angles between Jupiter opposite Mercury with Pluto on the IC, she accidentally fell, broke her toe, and was out of work for a month. It was okay because she had paid time off, but it still put some financial strain on our situation.
LINK to my mother's SLR, which showed the accident and subsequent convalescence. http://i.imgur.com/5cBUYgH.jpg
So, in May, my mother went back to work without incident, you would think that would be the end of the story, but it's not. In May, I also got a great job that paid really well, as a receptionist, and I went back to school for the Summer semester. Things went really well initially, my doctor had recently put me on B12 shots for pernicious anemia, and I had tons of energy. Then, in late May, I started to feel very ill, I had trouble getting out of bed staying awake, with some other major symptoms that would be TMI. So, between that and school it was too much, and I was forced to resign from my job on Jun 13.

My mother returned to work and got a nice raise. An incident had happened though, previously, when my mother was off for the day where another employee had actually physically abused one of the clients and quit her job to avoid repercussions. So, my mother's supervisors were out for blood, and my mother made a very small mistake. She was terminated for making that small mistake, and unemployment services sided with her employer and supervisors after doing a half-assed investigation on June 14th, which means, they disqualified her from receiving unemployment benefits after working with this company for almost two decades with no prior bad history. My mother's problems, along with my own resignation, showed up in my SLR, on June 14th as a Jupiter and Pluto Square closely on the angles.
Link To my July 13 SLR
http://i.imgur.com/deh6hde.jpg

I guess I am very on edge because I have nowhere to turn, we have been living on what little I have left in savings, but I predict we will soon run out of that.
If we can't pay our car note, I'll lose transportation along with the ability to finish my education.

Back to referencing the thread for Big Lottery Winners, I am really hopeful for my SLR in late October, but I looked at the winner's Kinetic Returns and Tertiary progressions, and they were all highly active for benific or "singling out" activity...mine are not. If I don't receive some sort of "long lasting", "out of the ordinary" event, things are probably going to be bad for me for several years to come.

[Arena]

Indeed it does look promising with that Jup-Mer/Pluto and surprising that it turns out to be malefic, except for those that take squares as negative aspects. But we don't see aspects to natal chart there. And we might also want to make a note of that Neptune to Vx.

[SteveS]

Venus, you are clearly under a tremendous amount of ‘inner tensions and strains.’ I would not expect you to win a big lottery with your ‘Thank the Lord’ SSR soon approaching, but try to understand, before you can feel the manifestations of your ‘Thank the Lord’ 2017 SSR, normally, you have to be under a-lot of inner tensions and strains,’ which clearly you are now psychologically feeling. Do you understand where I am coming from? Do you have Ebertin’s book ‘Combinations of Stellar influences? If so, go to his Jupiter-Uranus combo and read his footnote. If not, let me know and I will post his footnote about the ‘Thank you Lord’ Jup-Ur combo that you have coming-up on your 2017 SSR. Work as hard as you can to improve upon the situation you now find yourself experiencing, and your 2017 SSR 'Thank you Lord' combo should allow you to exclaim the words: 'Thank you Lord.'

[Venus_Daily]

I completely understand, Steve. Thank You, it would just be nice to have this situation go away for say, about 1-5 years while I build upon my future and complete my education. I was not exactly pinning my hopes on the lottery, but I was hopeful that I would get at least some long-term relief, which could change my life. I guess these situations just hit me very hard because my entire life has been nothing but devastation, after devastation, after devastation. I understand that, in life, the only thing you can hope for is being content, but compared to the lives of others, mine feels like the main theme has been suffering, depression, subversion, etcetera. Just when things go smoothly for me, something like this always happens.

I wish I could work as hard as possible, but after this event, I have become extremely depressed, and my health has not improved. Being ill, and then being depressed, I have no idea where to turn after this.

I am not trying to emotionally bleed over everyone, but, I have thought that maybe the positive manifestation I could hope for in October could be suicide.

[SteveS]

I certainly understand how poor health conditions are very depressing Venus, but your charts do not indicate anything close to suicide. Timing is everything Venus, allow enough time to get to Oct for much better frame of mind.

[SteveS]

Venus, today your secondary progressed natal Dsc is 06,45 Sag, one year from today it will be 07,45 Sag, two years from today it will be 08,25 Sag. What does this mean? IMO, it means you will most likely enjoy some of the best years of your life, since your Natal Jupiter is 08,40 Sag 1,42 squaring your Natal Venus at 10,22 Virgo. This secondary progressed natal Dsc coming to a partile and exact cnj to your n. Jupiter is a once in lifetime long-term (3 years) Jupiter cycle.

[Venus_Daily]

I most certainly hope so, but I am becoming very skeptical now in days, regardless of what Astrology says. I thought Secondary progressions worked best in Naibod in RA as opposed to Longitude, I am really not looking forward to dealing with progressed Mars coming to the DSC as a primary direction. What about in Solar Arcs, my natal Jupiter is a few minutes away from partility with the SA descendant, yet, I have not seen any positive influences.

[SteveS]

Venus wrote:

I am really not looking forward to dealing with progressed Mars coming to the DSC as a primary direction.

FWIW, Jim and I, others, are using Solar Arc in Long for the primary angles of the Natal Chart. For the last 2-3 years you have been under p. Natal Mars-Neptune on or midpoint combo with your primary Dsc. IMO, this has been the main aspect which has been beating on your psychic/physical/material well being in many ways. But, as I stated before, you have your natal Jupiter coming to your natal primary progressed Dsc in about a year, a once in life-time primary direction. IMO, this will fire-off your natal Venus-Jupiter square in your Natal, and you will be able to put this nasty major angular Mar-Neptune behind you.

[Arena]

At times things can look and feel very very dark and pointless. But please use your astrological knowledge and perseverance to get through things as best you can. Are you still residing at birth place, or did you relocate? Did you think about relocating to try out some better aspects of your natal? I recently checked out your chart to find out that Darwin, Australia would be a good place for you ... as you know I am a relocation enthusiast.

[SteveS]

Arena wrote:

But please use your astrological knowledge and perseverance to get through things as best you can.

Exactly!

[Venus_Daily]

Thank You all, for your kind words and suggestions; I really do appreciate them. Everything is so overwhelming right now, though. I just can't really envision how my benefic SLR on 9/28 might manifest itself. I was thinking about gambling, but the closest place, with exact Astrological symbolism, is Galveston. I would have to use money I don't have, when I don't have Jupiter on the MC, nor do I have any transiting planets on any of SQs or other progressed charts. The most positive symbolism I have for my progressions is Jupiter/Uranus conjoined my converse secondary progressed Moon, and Jupiter on my Solar Arc DSC but even that's a stretch.

As for relocating, I wish. Relocating takes, time, energy, and money, all of which are scarce right now. My aunt asked me to visit her in Argentina to meet some eligible bachelors, who are well set, but my Mars/Uranus conjunction is pushed even closer to the DSC with everything else pushed further background.

My Jupiter/Neptune midpoint is coming to the Secondary progressed DSC (SA in Long) is that a good aspect for winning a bit of money from gambling/speculation?

[Arena]

Well, if you do want to relocate you can always start by just occupying your mind with it. Study the astro maps and local space lines for your chart and let your mind wander where it would like to go. Cast a few relocation charts and SSR charts in upcoming years and so on. Believe me, it is a lot of fun and interesting study


I am not sure the midpoints have any relevance at all, I would think aspects and angularity are what matters the most in astrology. But here is a bit about Jup-Nep as I have recently been looking into that. But it is with this like everything else in astrology, the answer depends on who you ask
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1560&hilit=jupiter+neptune

[Venus_Daily]

Thank You, Arena. I know that it's not enough to trigger an event, but it could be symbolic of an overarching theme. When my ex asked me to marry him, my Jupiter/Uranus midpoint came to the DSC, but it was only reflective of my Sun progressed over natal Venus.

[SteveS]

Venus wrote:

I would have to use money (gambling) I don't have,

Never ever gamble with money you can’t afford to lose. Only gamble for fun recreation with money you can afford to lose.
Venus wrote:

As for relocating, I wish.

Only if it is very practical and affordable, and remember, your secondary progressed primary angles are always used for any re-location.

[Arena]

your secondary progressed primary angles are always used for any re-location

Are you sure about this? What you mean is that you would progress your angles as if you were born in that location, right? Like sec. progr. relocated angles?

[SteveS]

Arena asked:

Are you sure about this?

Absolutely! See my last post in your thread: 'Relocated Progressed Angles,' for a superb example in Jim's life.

[SteveS]

As for primary progressions, its greatest significance is in the relatively rare case of a progressed angle coming to a conjunction with a natal planet or progressed planet. Such progressions are always of the up most importance; in my opinion, they’re among astrology’s strongest indicators. Jake Chanson—Siderealist.

Venus, I realize you have been going through some tough Mars-Neptune crap in the last 2-3 years with your primary progressed DSC conjuncting your p. Mars-Neptune cnj, a ‘once in lifetime’ Mars-Neptune hit. But, I think it very important for you to realize that your primary progressed natal DSC begins its partile cnj to your natal Jupiter Aug 30, 2018, a ‘once in lifetime’ Jupiter hit which will be partile 2 years. And then, Dec 30, 2021 begins a 2-3-year partile cnj with your p. Jupiter. These ‘once in a lifetime’ Jupiter hits will involve p. Mars, but Mars-Jupiter is a world of difference than Mars-Neptune. I hope your health conditions will improve and allow you to finish your education, which imo, will set you up with much more quality life conditions with these ‘once in lifetime’ Jupiter hits to your primary progressed Solar Arc Long natal DSC. Also, I think it important to realize when this ‘once in lifetime’ Jupiter hit occurs, it will kick-off your tight natal Venus-Jupiter square. Beneficially speaking, it don’t get much better than an angular planetary picture with Venus-Jupiter.

[Venus_Daily]

As for primary progressions, its greatest significance is in the relatively rare case of a progressed angle coming to a conjunction with a natal planet or progressed planet. Such progressions are always of the up most importance; in my opinion, they’re among astrology’s strongest indicators. Jake Chanson—Siderealist.

Venus, I realize you have been going through some tough Mars-Neptune crap in the last 2-3 years with your primary progressed DSC conjuncting your p. Mars-Neptune cnj, a ‘once in lifetime’ Mars-Neptune hit. But, I think it very important for you to realize that your primary progressed natal DSC begins its partile cnj to your natal Jupiter Aug 30, 2018, a ‘once in lifetime’ Jupiter hit which will be partile 2 years. And then, Dec 30, 2021 begins a 2-3-year partile cnj with your p. Jupiter. These ‘once in a lifetime’ Jupiter hits will involve p. Mars, but Mars-Jupiter is a world of difference than Mars-Neptune. I hope your health conditions will improve and allow you to finish your education, which imo, will set you up with much more quality life conditions with these ‘once in lifetime’ Jupiter hits to your primary progressed Solar Arc Long natal DSC. Also, I think it important to realize when this ‘once in lifetime’ Jupiter hit occurs, it will kick-off your tight natal Venus-Jupiter square. Beneficially speaking, it don’t get much better than an angular planetary picture with Venus-Jupiter.

I am still going to play the Lottery this September through early October, but maybe, would it would be better or more advantageous to play around the time progressed Jupiter and my Venus/Jupiter come to the progressed angles?
Around the time that natal Jupiter come to my progressed primary angles, I have three consecutive angles with close Moon/Jupiter aspects. The first SSR for 2019 has a close 1 degree and 49-minute aspect between the Moon and Jupiter. This SSR seems particularly potent since that conjunction is square a partile Solar Mars/Sun conjunction. It will also go on to eventually square Mercury, then it will square Solar Neptune and then Solar Venus. This SSR seems to be my most active one in life, period.
LINK: http://i.imgur.com/8OCCRtT.jpg

That same year, my Kinetic Sidereal Solar Return will also feature a KSSR Moon in a 2 degree Conjunction, partile square to Jupiter.

Then in 2020, My SSR Moon will feature a 1 degree and 20-minute square to Jupiter, which will go onto to make a conjunction with Pluto, then it will square Saturn, and finally makes its way to an almost particle Mars/Venus Conjunction. Also, Solar Uranus will almost be partile on the MC opposite natal Saturn.

LINK: http://i.imgur.com/WjyXZm0.jpg


2021 seems to be a mixed bag. Saturn is partile conjunct the IC, there is a partile square between Venus and Pluto, but Uranus is almost partile on the Equatorial Descendant and almost plactically opposed to my Natal Sun/Moon midpoint. My SSR Moon for that year will be almost partile opposite to Jupiter. I guess the bad aspects look like a death in the family, or my mother could develop Alzheimer's, her mother (my grandmother) developed it in her late to mid 60's.

http://i.imgur.com/undefined.jpg

I know that Jim says you should not look past a year or two, but it would be fun to dig this up for future reference. Sort of like a time capsule. I think it's also good to show how In-sync the primary angles may be with future SSRs.

This will end on a high note with natal Venus square the primary ASC/DSC axis.

[SteveS]

Venus wrote:

I am still going to play the Lottery this September through early October…

Yes, a good time for fun and games of chance, my wife is also going to purchase a few lotto tickets with her benefic SLR in Sept.

We never know the specifics for our future astro cycles. The key-- endeavor to do what is practical for a career within your living environment, work hard for your future career, hard work will always pay-off in the long run-- and have as much fun as possible with your benefic cycles.

[Venus_Daily]

Well, so far no news on my 2/28/17 SLR. In fact, the financial situation is getting worse, and I had some negative occurrences happen. This summer, I was becoming friendly with a male graduate student. I really didn't want to mention it as to not jinx the situation, but it was no use. He stopped all communication in Mid-August, so I knew there was something going on. I felt down for a few weeks, and then I decided to just let go. So, he text me if we can meet up the morning of the return, I went in not expecting anything, so I was not surprised when he told me that the reason he couldn't speak to me anymore was that his girlfriend had transferred to the university for her final year of graduate studies. He really didn't want me to confront his girlfriend about the interest he shared in me over the summer. I am kind of sad, but I can't hold onto things. So, almost 3 days into a very angular and benefic SLR, and that's the most interesting thing that has happened. I know it's just almost 3 days in, but I just don't know anymore.

[Jupiter Sets at Dawn]

Well, so far no news on my 2/28/17 SLR.

9/28/17?
Like Steve said above:

try to understand, before you can feel the manifestations of your ‘Thank the Lord’ 2017 SSR, normally, you have to be under a-lot of inner tensions and strains,’

[Arena]

I don't think you can read SLRs in isolation. You need to read them in context. And what is the context? Your SSR is the main chart for the year.

[Venus_Daily]

Yes, Arena
I guess I just got caught up in the cosmic cross-hairs that belong to someone else.

[Venus_Daily]

Amazing news. On the 9th of Octobet, tr. Uranus was over my natal quoditian angle(MC), and I got a phone call from my aunt claiming that she recovered some money from my late father's estate. She said she could not go into detail, but it was a large sum of money. On Friday, I had transiting Jupiter of natal quoditian angle(IC), which was the exact day my aunt's lawyer wired my first of several payments. I really didn't feel the transformative effects of Moon/Pluto so close on the MC except for the surreal feeling I got from observing these events manifest in such a synchronized manner. I was observing these two transits expecting nothing to occur, yet I was wrong.

[Jupiter Sets at Dawn]

So did you say "Thank you Lord" and fulfill Steve's prediction?

It's great news. I'm really pleased for you.

Be sure to put some of that away. Maybe a Certificate of Deposit?

[TheScales_BothWays]

Wonderful news, Venus!

And let's not forget that 9th October was the first day of your Jupiter-to-Pluto transit!

Jim's interpretation of the transit:

JUPITER aspecting Natal PLUTO
The keynote of this period is gain by separation, which takes innumerable forms. Most likely, something in your life is drawing heavily on your time, energy, and psychological and emotional resources, but no longer contributing to you. Whatever this element is, you separate from it now, freeing that tremendous investment of energy for other uses. Specific examples range from jobs to relationships, from memberships to opinionated viewpoints. Strained relationships may benefit from a short furlough. Inheritance is possible. What the actual event is does not matter much, as it occurs spontaneously, a natural result of the flow of your life. What does matter is that you recognize the positive release of energy and consciously direct it where you want it in your renewed life.

Looks like Jupiter-Pluto can be benefic too!

On Friday, I had transiting Jupiter of natal quoditian angle(IC), which was the exact day my aunt's lawyer wired my first of several payments.

Perfect!
On Thursday, you had an SLR which featured t.Jupiter right on the IC -- "gains from property/real estate".

[Venus_Daily]

Wonderful news, Venus!

And let's not forget that 9th October was the first day of your Jupiter-to-Pluto transit!

Jim's interpretation of the transit:

JUPITER aspecting Natal PLUTO
The keynote of this period is gain by separation, which takes innumerable forms. Most likely, something in your life is drawing heavily on your time, energy, and psychological and emotional resources, but no longer contributing to you. Whatever this element is, you separate from it now, freeing that tremendous investment of energy for other uses. Specific examples range from jobs to relationships, from memberships to opinionated viewpoints. Strained relationships may benefit from a short furlough. Inheritance is possible. What the actual event is does not matter much, as it occurs spontaneously, a natural result of the flow of your life. What does matter is that you recognize the positive release of energy and consciously direct it where you want it in your renewed life.

Looks like Jupiter-Pluto can be benefic too!

On Friday, I had transiting Jupiter of natal quoditian angle(IC), which was the exact day my aunt's lawyer wired my first of several payments.

Perfect!
On Thursday, you had an SLR which featured t.Jupiter right on the IC -- "gains from property/real estate".

I did actually thank the lord when I got a notice from my bank while I was in class. I am so grateful like The Scales said about the Jupiter/Pluto aspect on my IC, it did free up a lot of my mental energy, so I can now focus on finishing school and my health.
I am actually working on some plants to visit my aunt in Argentina, she invited me to stay with her for a while on break from school. The only thing I that worries me is that my natal Mars/Uranus move closer to the DSC in that location.