Solunars by Aldebaran Sidereal Academy

Iaomai wrote:One of my relatives and best friends has Sun in Aries.

He works as a mechanic in an petrochemical refinery, and the stories he tells frequently involve mid-level superiors having to call upper-level superiors to try to force him to do something he has refused to do, only to discover, yes, he's right, he shouldn't do it that way because that way will blow something up, kill everybody standing around, and cost a lot of money. The stuff he does at work, you couldn't pay me to do: put on this fresh-air suit, go inside that poison/acid environment, or wiggle 10 yards down this small pipe after squeezing through this small access hole, or climb way up the side of that tower and cut into it. He takes pride in it - the courage and skill it requires - the danger of it.

He likes knowing the tricks that get things done quicker and with less effort, and he's apparently gained a reputation for being that guy. Before this last stretch where they've learned they want to keep him around, he had gone from job to job for years due to conflicts of personalities. He cannot stand being told how to do something if he thinks he knows better, and he's walked off more jobs in a single year than I've had my whole life.

He hates being told what somebody thinks he *ought* to do, and once he has voiced his decision, trying to get him to change his mind is a quick way for conversation turn south.

Anyway, I guess this is kind of a one-sided portrait of him, but that's most of the stuff that makes me think Aries when I'm around him. He's actually usually a calmer, easy-going, spiritual soul. We talk about all the things, you know? He just has these buttons you don't want to push.

jamescondor wrote:My mother and first cousin, mothers sisters daughter, are Aries Suns. They are quite similar and also quite different. Obviously similar in sun sign. My mother is not pleasant. She isn't awful or terrible. She is practical. Finance conscious and also materialistic. Not wasteful though. She isn't someone anyone wants to spend time together with. Not good company as friends. A good worker. College educated. Lazy at home besides regular house chores sits on couch or chair watches tv or online. Not active for exercise or sight seeing, exploring. Naive. Cynical. Assumes the worse about people. Not supportive. Very combative. Controlling. Self fulfilling prophecy theme but she isn't aware of the power of thought. Use her past as a major form of identity. Not story telling. Not talkative. Analytical. Perverted. Not feminine. Not peaceful. Not cute. Strong family ties but doesn't hang out with family unless special occasion. She really glows and enjoys family gatherings. She is socially stable, at home, around family gatherings. Been married since 24. 4 children.
My cousin is quite unstable emotionally, and just in life. Two children, one given up for adoption. One ex died of drug OD. Another ex also drug addict. She is uneducated, working class poor, trashy, lives off the government. Combative. Crazy
Mother is more level headed. Cousin is bipolar -Aries Sun and Mars, Pisces moon. Intelligent. Not marrying type. Bad at relationships. Both low on frustration tolerance. Neither seem to enjoy life much. Rarely fulfilled. Don't let loose socially. Guard up socially.They have few moments when they are 'on top' but both think they are in control-act like they have an edge but really don't.

Iaomai wrote:I met what I would have to describe as an introverted Aries Sun yesterday. I know they exist, but it always seems like a contradiction to me. Shouldn't Aries always be sticking their foot into it - whatever it is?

Anyway, she was very pleasant and polite, yet I did sense that strength to her. She was reserved, but strong. At least that was the vibe I got from her. It was interesting to note - challenged my assumptions. Maybe that seems silly; I don't know.

Iaomai wrote:I met what I would have to describe as an introverted Aries Sun yesterday. I know they exist, but it always seems like a contradiction to me. Shouldn't Aries always be sticking their foot into it - whatever it is?

gary903 wrote:One of my favorite fellow Aries natives is the actress Kate Mulgrew, who portrayed the character of Captain Kathryn Janeway in the '90s TV series Star Trek: Voyager. Captain Janeway was the only female captain of a starship to appear in the several Star Trek series. Kate Mulgrew was born April 29, 1955, 7:00 AM, Dubuque, IA. Her chart shows natal Sun at 14 ARIES 19 and natal Mars rising at 18 TAURUS 22. And for anyone who's interested in Fagan's Novien system, Kate's natal Moon at 18 CANCER 49 yields a 1st Novien Moon of 19 ARIES 21, which conjoins her natal Aries Sun and opposes 1st Novien Mars and Jupiter at 15 LIBRA 18 and 17 LIBRA 34 respectively.

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Danica wrote:Thank you for sharing her chart, Gary!
A female Aries-Cancer as a captain of a star-ship whose mission is to come Home from far-far-away: WOW

Danica wrote:I have 9 Sun-Aries people on my list of personally-known-for-years (+myself), and dozen of others, though not so closely known and/or not so long as these nine.

The Paradox theme is indeed very prominent in all of them; it seems to be the single strongest characteristic of this group of people, and that all other traits stem from this.

"INHERENTLY CONTRADICTORY. Motivated by not wanting to be defined, limited, curtailed, corralled. Seeks liberty without external constraint" - it's amazing how true this is for all of Aries Suns on my list!!
Example: the males will almost never ask another person for an advice (especially not about something they hold important); the females, on the contrary, will ask often and with genuine interest; but, regardless of gender, they will not rely on anyone else but themselves in making decisions and acting. (Even if others actually point them to good direction; even if it's a health question and the advice is given by their own medical doctor, etc)

If you want to insult a Solar Aries, tell them that you know them well and that they are predictable!

Definitely practical people, and value practical approach in others; but not base or brute (while Moon in Aries does have this tendency to be brute, raw). Natural logicians and overall good thinkers, but value acting much more than thinking. Learn from life itself (and are proud of their scars - both physical and psychological).

Poor listeners, coming from a point of absolute certainty that their own opinion is the only right one, and definitely the most important one (so often hard to communicate with). Like to boast, and often tend to speak about weaknesses of others thus showing themselves as superior. Not egalitarian, not humble.

Keep their privacy, in a manner quite different from withholding of the Saturn types; it's not stemming from self-protection or self-preservation need (or at least that's how it seems to me, may be completely wrong given the subjectivity factor of my Sun in Aries ); I see it as essentially connected to Pluto symbolism (there's a distinct impenetrable-ness to it, and it's very natural, very non-intrusive, not something they intentionally show off) and the Paradox theme.

"I am the sole monarch of my doing/action" is the dominant attitude.

jamescondor wrote:I've been dating an Aries sun now for a few weeks and we used to hang out before. She is not what I expected at all. She really isn't like my mom or cousin Aries. She can be really caring, gentle and sensual, maybe because her Venus is on my angle and so it happens this way. Its bizarre. I can tell she is martian though, I thought she was a Scorpio when I first met her.
Danica you have good interpretation here on Aries. To dominate is there mind set. Not humble. Obstinate opinion but only when they are in control or want control.

Avshalom Binyamin wrote:Was Thomas Jefferson a sidereal Aries? April 12, 1743

I had a history teacher that was a big Jefferson buff, and the theme she always talked about was contradiction, citing his various positions on slavery, anti-federalism, the Louisiana purchase.

Also, an Aries woman was the only person I've had aggressively, forcefully kiss me without asking (it happened to be a welcome action in this case, so it was ok).

Avshalom Binyamin wrote:Was Thomas Jefferson a sidereal Aries? April 12, 1743

I had a history teacher that was a big Jefferson buff, and the theme she always talked about was contradiction, citing his various positions on slavery, anti-federalism, the Louisiana purchase.

gary903 wrote:There's a persistent question whether Aries' true ruling planet is Mars or Pluto. I'd vote for Pluto, but others would go for Mars. Maybe Pluto can't be said to rule any constellation. In trying to answer this question, it's interesting to consider what Cyril Fagan wrote in his Solunars column for American Astrology Magazine regarding the differences between the natures of these two planets. His words are recorded in The Solunars Handbook on page 17: "The influences of Pluto and Mars must not, however, be confounded. Pluto is not intrinsically a violent planet; it is just repellent. Mars on the other hand is violent, but not necessarily repellent. It will slaughter for food or indulge in contests which are forms of attraction and attachment. To repel commonly connotes dislike, if not hatred, and in that respect Pluto may be deemed a malefic and a rebel. In other respects, Pluto's severing, ridding, cancelling action can be life's greatest blessing."

Also, on page 128 of The Solunars Handbook, Fagan is quoted as follows: "To attribute the diurnal rulership of Pluto to Scorpio (tropical or sidereal) is a grave error. There is absolutely nothing in common between these two. The notion is just fanciful, a mere association of ideas born of too much traffic with Greek and Roman mythology. On the other hand, the Aries characteristics and the known effects of Pluto have much in common, as the practical astrologer knows only too well."

SteveS wrote:Thanks gary for this Fagan insight. It reminds me of someone I know who got a natal reading from Fagan, and said late in life: When it comes to astrology, Fagan was the most insightful person I ever met.

jamescondor wrote:Gary903-nice job, well written with good sourced material. It is important to have someone chime in with more objective interpretation. Just another example of how Pluto is still unknown or difficult to place. I am not yet sold on Pluto belonging to any sign. Aries? Gemini? Shoot, prove it I say! I have had tPluto conjunct my n sun for a long time and it is something else. Difficult to put words to. Last year I had Pluto foreground, don't recall natally or transiting. Again, difficult to assign. If I were to go out on a limb, with my limited and incomplete information, If I had to assign Pluto, based on my experiences, it reminds me most of people with a Gemini moon. Kinda strange, but that's all I got. Also, if anyone knows of anyone with natal Pluto foreground, is a good measure.

gary903 wrote:There's a persistent question whether Aries' true ruling planet is Mars or Pluto. I'd vote for Pluto, but others would go for Mars.

Also, on page 128 of The Solunars Handbook, Fagan is quoted as follows: "To attribute the diurnal rulership of Pluto to Scorpio (tropical or sidereal) is a grave error. There is absolutely nothing in common between these two. The notion is just fanciful, a mere association of ideas born of too much traffic with Greek and Roman mythology. On the other hand, the Aries characteristics and the known effects of Pluto have much in common, as the practical astrologer knows only too well."

"On the other hand, when the Ariean deeply discerns the true nature of the ego, its falseness and nonexistence, then this constellation creates a Buddha and a Krishnamurti, the very flowers of humanity, who were both natives of it. So Aries holds enormous potentialities for good or evil, all depending on how far the intelligence of the native is unrestricted."

When it comes to learning, if you learn to sacrifice your 'ego' to the 'alter of learning,' enlightenment/knowledge flows freely.