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Parans

Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 10:36 pm
by David Stanton
by SteveS on Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:55 pm

Jim, how do you factor ‘potential’ Parans when found in a SSR? Outside of a potential Paran coming active with a quotidian chart, do you consider a SSR potential Paran as an important planetary aspect with a SSR?

Regards, Steve

Re: Parans

Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 10:37 pm
by David Stanton
by Jim Eshelman on Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:49 pm
SteveS wrote:
Jim, how do you factor ‘potential’ Parans when found in a SSR? Outside of a potential Paran coming active with a quotidian chart, do you consider a SSR potential Paran as an important planetary aspect with a SSR?
Good question. - In theory, I think I should look at them more, but in practice it doesn't seem I've missed much in ignoring them.'

This is really part of the bigger question of the comparative value of parans to ecliptical aspects even in natal charts. In general, I think ecliptical aspects are at least the primary point of focus. However, one place parans have proven useful is in comparing two locations after a move - seeing which parans in the natal chart disappear in leaving the old location, and which ones appear in the new one. Since these have proven quite useful in differentiating locations, there must be more than a little effect.

A couple of examples: A friend with primarily a Mars-Uranus temperament moved a couple hundred miles south and acquired a Sun-Neptune paran square at the new location. She found herself becoming domesticated, isolated, and dependent, which irked her enormously, so she moved back. - Also, by moving to LA, I not only acquired natal Venus exactly on the IC, but also gained (among other changes) a Sun-to-Jupiter-Uranus paran square. My time here has definitely had marked characteristics of having a natal square of Sun to my Jupiter-Uranus conjunction.

Re: Parans

Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 10:37 pm
by David Stanton
by SteveS on Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:24 am
Jim wrote:
Also, by moving to LA, I not only acquired natal Venus exactly on the IC, but also gained (among other changes) a Sun-to-Jupiter-Uranus paran square. My time here has definitely had marked characteristics of having a natal square of Sun to my Jupiter-Uranus conjunction.
When you moved to LA—were you already studying astrology? If yes—you are saying the potential paran of natal Sun to your Jupiter-Uranus amplified your field of astrology?
Jim wrote:
In theory, I think I should look at them more, but in practice it doesn't seem I've missed much in ignoring them.'
I ditto this Jim. I have seen many potential parans in a SSR manifest no symbolism. However, I have on occasion seen where a potential paran, with its symbolism in a SSR, will dominate the theme of the entire solar year—mitigating angular symbolism. It may be that a SSR potential paran has to be in paran to a natal planet, in order to dominate the theme. This SSR/Natal potential paran situation could statistically be a rare occurrence amoung SSR'S. I will post an example of this at a later time for your take.

Regards, Steve

Re: Parans

Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 10:38 pm
by David Stanton
by Jim Eshelman on Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:46 am
SteveS wrote:
When you moved to LA—were you already studying astrology?
Yes, I moved here several years after my first articles appeared in American Astrology and Spica.
If yes—you are saying the potential paran of natal Sun to your Jupiter-Uranus amplified your field of astrology?
Not particularly. Obviously there were environmental factors such as actually having an astrological community etc., certain opportunities of publishing and the like. No, the Sun square Jupiter-Uranus was much broader and more impactful that a single field.