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Re: Martin88's chart

Post by Arena » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:48 am

Have you explored your chart in terms of solar arcs?
What you should be seeing now in your life is increased vitality and possibly attention, being in the limelight somehow... the d. Sun is moving into your n. ASC now if the chart is right. Your d. DSC should be on n. Mars which can indicate a period of quarrels, sex and action. Your d. Venus is on your n. Mer.

What happened when d. Pluto moved to your n. Moon and IC - did you part with loved ones/experience divorce or death or relocation? At the same time, or around 20 your d. Jup comes to n. Venus denoting a love experience.

What happened when you were about 8-10 when the ASC/DSC moved to the nodes and d. Sun squared Pluto? During a similar period your d. Ur-Sat conj is on n. Nep.

When are you most likely to relocate?
I think the t. Jupiter might be a trigger when it comes to your Uranus. Another trigger may be when your d. Moon is conjunct n. Uranus which is now and your d. Uranus opposes your n. Sun which is in a couple of years from now.

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Re: Martin88's chart

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:55 am

martin88 wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:13 am
Yes, they said 9:15 local time.
Though it won't make a LOT of difference, I note that this is 2 minutes different from the 9:13 you gave us originally.
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Re: Martin88's chart

Post by martin88 » Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:05 pm

Arena, I was very happy at age 9-10 but yeah my aunt died when I was 8. I was generally very happy/confident in the 90s all the way until the summer of 2001 around my 13th birthday when I suppose my autoimmune disorder first appeared affecting my thinking. I’ve been mostly depressed/anxious ever since. I had some remission in 2003 at age 14.5/15 and a big one in 2013/14 at age 25. At 26 it all hit the fan again and been in constant depression since then.

Jim, yes my mother was unsure about my birth hours, excuse me.

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Re: Martin88's chart

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:23 pm

It doesn't make a lot of difference. Jupiter is still within 1° of MC for Sofia.
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Re: Martin88's chart

Post by martin88 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:35 am

Weird I can never find a good job here, it’s all call centers or administrative stuff I hate.

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Re: Martin88's chart

Post by Arena » Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:42 am

martin88, is it possible that the birth time is entirely wrong? That it is not even anywhere near 9.15?
I get the feeling that you've not actually seen your hospital records/birth certificate?

What you've had to say in this thread sure does not sound like you've got Jup-Moon as such tightly angular planets. That is a success aspect.

Check out your solar arcs - they should tell a story.
Solar arc Pluto to an angle like IC should not go unnoticed, age 21 with this chart and IF your solar arc DSC would have just passed by n. Mars that would not have gone unnoticed either...

Are both of your parents alive and together or divorced?
Did you ever relocate your residence in your life?

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Re: Martin88's chart

Post by martin88 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:16 am

No, they’re still together. As for the jobs, a large part of Eastern Europe relies on call centers and boring administrative outsourcing jobs. All else is left is IT. No possibilities for marketing, design and the creative/performing arts. I have a Neptune to Mars aspect - autoimmune disease related to sexuality. Only cure is abstinence.

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Re: Martin88's chart

Post by Arena » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:36 pm

You're not answering my questions.

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Re: Martin88's chart

Post by martin88 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:01 am

I relocated several times. To the Netherlands (it was terrible, now I know it’s my Pluto line), Vienna (I was moody and too nostalgic about my home city so I didn’t like Moon line energy).

Btw, I have Chiron in the 10th house so it's no wonder why my social standing and career success is hard to come by. I even let a girl copy my work at school once and she had a higher mark, this is typical 10th house Chiron. It's like I've been stuck in a string of service (administrative) jobs with little appreciation whatsoever.

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Re: Martin88's chart

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:17 am

What house system you're using? The first few I checked all have it in the 11th, though I'm sure there are some systems that let it flip back to the 10th. (It's just a little more than 30° past MC in longitude.)

It's extremely unusual that someone with Jupiter as close to MC as you, also aspecting Moon and Sun, also without strong afflictions would have social standing and career success denied.
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Re: Martin88's chart

Post by martin88 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:39 pm

Jim, I used Astro.com I think. But you’re right, I now used AstroTheme and it’s in 11th. Then I don’t know what is the issue perhaps the last psychic is right? She told me I must do a creative job to unblock my luck and follow my karmic path (with Venus in the 10th and true node in Pisces maybe she’s on to something). Maybe it’s just the stereotypically Virgo jobs I continue taking set me back into my karma. I also think I benefit from less computer use/screen time. It’s like computers and tech steal away my energy.

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Re: Martin88's chart

Post by Arena » Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:40 am

martin88, I think the real problem here is that we do not have the correct time for your birth.

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Re: Martin88's chart

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:20 am

FWIW, I've had a different theory lately (though, of course, I'm speculating). I'm going on how Martin described himself and details of his relationships to the different locations he's lived or visited - most of this information he has edited out of the thread by now, so I'm going from memory and might be remembering wrong.

What I've been toying with is that IIRC he has most disliked places where the local culture had people trying to connect to him and 'not leave him alone.' It could be that he is getting exactly what that angular Jupiter or well-aspected natal Moon would normally give, but it's not what he wants or feels comfortable with. It would be nice to get those details back in the thread about how he related to each location.

With the data compilations I've been doing on fixed stars - which I consider speculative or exploratory, not something we know to be true or working - I notice that he was born (presuming his birth time is correct, since his mother's independent memory is within 2 minutes of the subsequently discovered recorded time) - he was born at the rising of Alphard, the Alpha star in the constellation Hydra. If there is anything to these stars, this stirs three very interesting points: (1) Alphard is called "the solitary one," and I think this is descriptive of Martin's character in ways that the rest of the chart wouldn't suggest. (2) My tradition, Alphard is related to toxins and poisons, which ties into the strong impact his auto-immune disease has had on him for years. (3) By mythology, Hydra would seem to infer to strong impact from toxic elements pushing up from subconsciousness.

It's just a thought... just a theory... but I've been considering that the relocations have all been accurately describing the locales but that Martin doesn't personally like those results.
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Re: Martin88's chart

Post by martin88 » Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:29 am

Jupiter and Moon square Ascendant on gentle curves through Germany and pother places. For example, Moon square Ascendant exactly passes through Rome (exactly!),
Jim, just to report this - apparently Astro.com lists those Jupiter and Moon lines as negatives and in my experience they really are not good at all. I lived in Prague for a few months and didn’t like the atmosphere and energy of the place and the people felt cold. I visited recently and it was the same while Bratislava felt more down to earth if too emotional. It’s a mystery why in Bratislava I attracted females more than in Sofia and Prague. Anyway, I will visit Veliko Turnovo or Ruse to see how they feel (amazing looking cities btw). I also plan on visiting Eastern Poland like Rzeszow to feel it. No longer interested in Western Europe. :)

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Re: Martin88's chart

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:06 am

They probably consider all squares a bad.That's a Tropical theory that just doesn't hold up as a genealization. But I do understand and accept that these have been difficult places for you.
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Re: Martin88's chart

Post by martin88 » Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:54 am

I've come to terms with the fact I have better lines outside Europe proper. Actually some exotic islands have wonderful lines or crossings for me in Europe - Madeira, Canary island and the British Channel Islands like Jersey (it's better than Bavaria for me without any bad influences, Chiron line is good according to astro.com)

Elsewhere good lines are in exotic or faraway places like Morocco/West Sahara/Mauritania, New Caledonia, Winnipeg/Minneapolis/St Louis/New Orleans, Melbourne in Australia, and a Venus line in Yemen/Armenia/Georgia/Volgograd.

It's weird that online I attract people from my Venus and Sun lines like Russians from Volgograd or Moroccans, but communication with people along my Eastern European Jupiter line are kinda not really satisfying - Polish and Serbian people come off reserved and cold towards me and same is true with ones from Western Bulgaria. Are Sun and Venus lines better than Jupiter ones, can a Jupiter line be overrated?

I'm more than ever open for a vacation to Jersey UK, and all those other islands. And Morrocan Western Sahara where my Sun line is. But anayway the bad luck is caused by magick of some time by an ex. A psychic confirmed it to me.

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Re: Martin88's chart

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:14 am

Jupiter is about having enough money, success in the eyes of your bosses, meaningful religion, that sort of thing. It's not about people liking you or romance or any of that. If you want warm relationships, look at your Venus line.

Remember you stay who you are, no matter where you go.

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