Solunars by Aldebaran Sidereal Academy

By myself, originally posted on Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:40 pm

(All dates and times in this thread are as per Malaysian Standard Time, UTC+8)

Hi I'm 16, male and I've had an innate affinity to astronomy and astrology, the positions of the planets and it's energies, and such.
But I started to dig in much deeper to astrology since last November. Tropical astrology worked fine, but at times it seems too exaggerated and such (like Scorpio's must love sex, & Cancers always cry in the room). And some things don't ring to me at all.
Then I came to this site when I was curious to Sidereal astrology. I realised I'm a Libra in both Tropical and Sidereal (the rest of the planet's signs changed, though), but I found harmony to the Libra Sun interpretation here. It was much, me, I would say. I've learned many things later, like how angularity and aspects reveal me more accurately, and the hard aspects (Squares/Oppositions/Conjunctions) aren't as bad as I thought they were. They're just dynamic. Trines and Sextiles are static, and aren't as dynamic as the hard aspects. No wonder they don't show up as much as the hard aspects. I've also learned about the mundoscope (and that it's needed to find angularity), and also transits (I didn't know they existed when learning Tropical).

I was born on the 20th of October, 1999 at 1:40 am, in Klang, Selangor, Malaysia. (3.03° N, 101.45° E, it's in decimal coordinates.) I'm still living there.
Aspects that really describe me:
Venus sq. Pluto (with a less strong Mercury sq. Uranus, they confirm my bisexuality with an inclination to men than women. Also, YES, I wanna relate to everyone, esp to those I want to do so!)
Mercury sq. Uranus (about 6' 36" but expresses my science & investigative side well)
Jupiter sq. Neptune (something we share [plus another aspect which I don't quite remember], Jim!)
Saturn sq. Uranus (Yes, I don't want to be proven human, esp. to my parents! For example, I don't want them to know I've improved/become better as a person, because then they'll tell me that I've 'gone for the good', as if I was a bad person in the first place. I mean, don't they have trust on their child in the first place? Don't they know that their child knows how to differentiate the good from the bad? Sometimes this blocks me to improve myself, because they'll (my parents) know eventually and I'll be proven human. This behaviour lacks some prominence within some friends, my extended family and of course, strangers. For the good of the world, I'd rather prove myself human and that I'm wrong in something.
Moon conj. Uranus 7' (somewhat true)

There are many other aspects which I find true to me, but there's too many squares and trines in my chart. I haven't read all of them.
Tho I'm curious to know what my near-partile Pluto trine North Node, my partile (0'07") Mercury quintile Neptune and 0'54" Moon quintile Pluto.
I also would love to see my Mundoscope chart. My solar fire demo doesn't allow much modifications and I don't want to burden my parents with US$ 360 for a "fad" interest that may go away soon. But personally I think I may stick to astrology much longer than I think.

Thanks in advance, and Happy Sunday!!!

On Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:49 am

Jim Eshelman wrote:Welcome, Scales! Happy to help out. Below are horoscope and mundoscope for your birth.

The way to deal with the abundance of aspects is to narrow the orbs - start with the closest and, if you don't have a clear enough picture, move to the next closest. For example, I agree that your Mercury-Uranus square technically exists at nearly 7°, but many of the traits you attribute to it are probably your intensely intellectual and curious 0°24' Moon-Mercury square.

(It seems that the links don't work anymore. )

By myself on Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:52 am

Oh, I didn't know that the Moon-Mercury square gives traits like that. I thought that it makes your mind clash with your emotions, which doesn't always happen to me, though.
Finally with my mundo, I can find my angular planets. (Pls correct me if I made a mistake anywhere)
Foreground: Neptune, Jupiter, with a dash of Saturn. Read them and yes they are true. Saturn is true to an extent. (Are the planets Uranus, Sun and Mercury too far off?)
Background: Mars
Middleground: Venus, Pluto, Moon (and also Uranus, Sun and Mercury if they are too far off)

Question: Does a planet in background mean it is weakened? Just asking.

Oh and I just realised that Mars & Jupiter are in mutual aspect (Mars in Sag and Jup. in Aries). So is the Sun and Venus (Sun in Libra and Venus in Leo).

On Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:02 am

Jim Eshelman wrote:

TheScales_BothWays wrote:Oh, I didn't know that the Moon-Mercury square gives traits like that. I thought that it makes your mind clash with your emotions, which doesn't always happen to me, though.

That's old school thinking that squares are conflictural. The nature of any aspect is to bring the natures of the two planets into relation with each other, not to separate them. (If you can't make them work together, of course, then, sure, there can seem a conflict.) My standard Moon-Mercury aspect interpretation on this ite reads:

Intellect fused with the emotions, especially with subconscious patterns; thus, quick at assessment, intuitive, strategic (cagey, deceptive). Personality dominated by intellect & nervous system. Tremendous mental output & capacity to absorb knowledge (apt at languages, good memory). Can seem ‘all business’ in emotional matters & emotionally stubborn in factual ones: Under duress, “reasonableness” competes with reactive emotion.

Finally with my mundo, I can find my angular planets. (Pls correct me if I made a mistake anywhere)
Foreground: Neptune, Jupiter, with a dash of Saturn.

Yes. Very good.

(Are the planets Uranus, Sun and Mercury too far off?)

Yes, especially since you have two that are pretty close.

Background: Mars

Yes. And, even though there is a Mars quality to Capricorn, you are especially going to feel that Mars cadency more powerfully because of your Libra Sun. It's quite useful to you that you don't seem overly stuck on traditional gender roles.

Question: Does a planet in background mean it is weakened? Just asking.

Yes, that's the way to say it in simple language. I don't think it's a matter of strength per se, though. It seems more a question of how freely it expresses ouytwardy. Mars background tends to come with "weak" Mars traits such as an understated masculinity, aggression, etc. (unless one feels uncomfortable or ashamed of that and overcompensates - bullies have this placement). Though it shows you not overly expressing your Mars side, people often feel it as if circumstances in their environment prevent them from showing their strength, competing effectively, etc. ("I don't get the chance to be Mars" or "People don't let me express my Mars.")

Oh and I just realised that Mars & Jupiter are in mutual aspect (Mars in Sag and Jup. in Aries). So is the Sun and Venus (Sun in Libra and Venus in Leo).

Mutual Reception, yes.

by TheScales_BothWays (myself) on Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:07 am

Jim Eshelman wrote:

Background: Mars

Yes. And, even though there is a Mars quality to Capricorn, you are especially going to feel that Mars cadency more powerfully because of your Libra Sun. It's quite useful to you that you don't seem overly stuck on traditional gender roles.

Yes I'm not person who is stuck to traditional gender roles. Sometimes I find things as sexist, even in the smallest of generalisations.
There's a Mars quality to Capricorn? (Is it because Mars is exalted there (generally speaking, since my natal Mars is in Sag), and I have three planets in Capricorn?)

Jim Eshelman wrote:

Question: Does a planet in background mean it is weakened? Just asking.

Yes, that's the way to say it in simple language. I don't think it's a matter of strength per se, though. It seems more a question of how freely it expresses outwardly. Mars background tends to come with "weak" Mars traits such as an understated masculinity, aggression, etc. (unless one feels uncomfortable or ashamed of that and overcompensates - bullies have this placement). Though it shows you not overly expressing your Mars side, people often feel it as if circumstances in their environment prevent them from showing their strength, competing effectively, etc. ("I don't get the chance to be Mars" or "People don't let me express my Mars.")

Yes! For example, sports. On the outside, I seem to loathe sports and athletes, but on the inside, I crave for a gold medal and revere them (the athletes). I'll be like "My weak body doesn't let me be an athlete — I need sheer hard work for my weak body to excel in sports" and "My current age is too late to commit to sports, I should've started earlier" and such.
But I'm not a bully, probably because I'm am comfortable and I'm not ashamed of my understated masculinity and aggression — and I don't overcompensate it like how bullies do. Have been bullied, though. Didn't last long and currently I don't take it seriously when I meet the bullies. Maybe because they're no more bullies now.

on Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:57 am

Jim Eshelman wrote:

TheScales_BothWays wrote:There's a Mars quality to Capricorn? (Is it because Mars is exalted there (generally speaking, since my natal Mars is in Sag), and I have three planets in Capricorn?)

Yes. Since Mars is ruled by Saturn, Mars exalted, Jupiter in its fall, Moon in detriment, it's best generalization is that it's a sign that is of the nature of Mars and Saturn, with traits unlike those of Moon and Jupiter. The only other main characteristic is that it is a Rim ("Cardinal") sign.

by TheScales_BothWays on Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:14 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:

TheScales_BothWays wrote:There's a Mars quality to Capricorn? (Is it because Mars is exalted there (generally speaking, since my natal Mars is in Sag), and I have three planets in Capricorn?)

Yes. Since Mars is ruled by Saturn, Mars exalted, Jupiter in its fall, Moon in detriment, it's best generalization is that it's a sign that is of the nature of Mars and Saturn, with traits unlike those of Moon and Jupiter. The only other main characteristic is that it is a Rim ("Cardinal") sign.

Nice way too look at signs. I guess that helps in many ways, like delineation.

by TheScales_BothWays on Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:05 pm

Oh look, where were my manners?

Thank you, dear Jim, for helping me out on my chart! The mundoscope (and the background mars interpretation) were really helpful!!!