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Trumped up horary

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 7:41 am
by Jim Eshelman
On a Tropical mundane astrology forum, one of the forum leaders asked, "Will the Trump presidency end in disgrace?" I thought I'd have some fun with outright astromantic divination, and asked for the time and place he posted the question. He answered: May 18, 2018 15:08:37 Sydney. I wrote the following:
I'll have fun playing with this as horary, rather than take either the news (which shows me it's already deep in disgrace), more conventional astrology (which I've posted on separately), or my personal commitment (which is to see him dragged from office in such deep disgrace that even his most ardent supporters understand that so grave and threatening a mistake must never occur again).

Regardless of chart technology, the loudest horary indicator is that the 9th house Moon is applying (4°) to oppose Saturn. This shows a fundamentally grievous outcome. While I might personally panic that this has the opposite meaning - i.e., that the most grievous outcome is, no, he'll stay in place untouched - I believe trueness to the question draws the answer of: Yes, a disgraceful deep fall will eventuate, and it will be brought about by the courts (9th house).

Sidereally, Virgo rises with Gemini on MC. Mercury is chart ruler and signifies the issue itself (the outcome of his presidency), Mercury is in the 7th house, which probably doesn't refer to our allies etc. but to lawsuits, separating from a conjunction with Uranus and applying 0°51' to a trine to Saturn. This leads me to conclude that, primarily through disclosures and revelations that already have occurred in a legal context, Trump's own words will eventuate in the downfall shown by the maturing Moon-Saturn opposition.

Though I am less sure about this, several things suggest that the Daniels case is highly instrumental. Besides being one interpretation of "disclosures that already have occurred" (not the only one), we do have Mars on the 5th cusp partile square that 7th house Uranus (separating 0°38', freshly erupted in the recent past).

Thus speaketh the oracle of the volcano god hidden in the mountains of New South Wales beneath the waratah. :)

Re: Trumped up horary

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 8:17 am
by mikestar13
Jim, I think your going to end up proving the superiority of sidereal techniques even horary astromancy.

Re: Trumped up horary

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 9:02 am
by Jim Eshelman
God, I hope not LOL.