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Difference between transits to SR and transits to Natal

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:57 am
by Antares5
What's the difference between transits to your SR chart and transits to your Natal chart? They can't possibly be the same thing, right?

Let's say for example, transiting Mars to Natal Moon VS transiting Mars to SR Moon. What's the difference?

in my own experience ,it feels just the same. Even if it’s a transit to LR planets it’s the same as natal transit.

Re: Difference between transits to SR and transits to Natal

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:29 am
by Jim Eshelman
The Moon example is a poor one - that one doesn't feel much different. But often, there often is quite a bit of difference (though sometimes one has to watch closely to see it).

Ultimately, a Solar Return planet is a transiting planet. It's an "outside" factor coming in at you, whereas your natal planets are "inside" factors. A transit to either of them is an even more "outside" factor. Thus, natal Mars is (for example) your own aggression, while SSR Mars is "others' aggression toward you that you carry around with you for a year." If Sun transits natal Mars, it triggers your own aggressiveness, energy expenditure, etc., but if it transits solar Mars, it stirs up others' aggression toward you. If there is a transit to your natal Neptune, it's your own craziness and being sent into a swirl, while a transit to solar Neptune is usually experienced as the environment being crazy (which, of course, can stir you up, too).

Re: Difference between transits to SR and transits to Natal

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:03 am
by Antares5
Jim Eshelman wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:29 am The Moon example is a poor one - that one doesn't feel much different. But often, there often is quite a bit of difference (though sometimes one has to watch closely to see it).

Ultimately, a Solar Return planet is a transiting planet. It's an "outside" factor coming in at you, whereas your natal planets are "inside" factors. A transit to either of them is an even more "outside" factor. Thus, natal Mars is (for example) your own aggression, while SSR Mars is "others' aggression toward you that you carry around with you for a year." If Sun transits natal Mars, it triggers your own aggressiveness, energy expenditure, etc., but if it transits solar Mars, it stirs up others' aggression toward you. If there is a transit to your natal Neptune, it's your own craziness and being sent into a swirl, while a transit to solar Neptune is usually experienced as the environment being crazy (which, of course, can stir you up, too).
Makes sense. Thanks Jim.

By the way :
Antares5 wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:57 am in my own experience ,it feels just the same. Even if it’s a transit to LR planets it’s the same as natal transit.
I didn't write this. How come it appears as if I wrote it?

Re: Difference between transits to SR and transits to Natal

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:03 am
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
No idea. Did you write the rest of that post?

Re: Difference between transits to SR and transits to Natal

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:58 am
by Antares5
Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:03 am No idea. Did you write the rest of that post?
I did. I just didn't write the last sentence, the one I quoted in my previous reply.

Re: Difference between transits to SR and transits to Natal

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:00 am
by Jim Eshelman
That's pretty bizarre :) Feel free to edit your original post to remove it.

Re: Difference between transits to SR and transits to Natal

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:57 pm
by Antares5
Jim Eshelman wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:00 am That's pretty bizarre :) Feel free to edit your original post to remove it.
Yeah :) Nah, it's fine. I got my answer. Thanks people.

Re: Difference between transits to SR and transits to Natal

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:41 pm
by TheScales_BothWays
Antares5 wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:57 am in my own experience ,it feels just the same. Even if it’s a transit to LR planets it’s the same as natal transit.
If I were to rely on my Libran memory, further clouded by my angular Neptune, isn't this actually a reply by forum member coolcoolwcr? 🤔😳

IIRC, I vaguely remember scrolling the Active topics page a day or two ago, and seeing that coolcoolwcr replied to this thread. I just didn't click on the topic, being more interested to read the other ones. And now his reply seems to be missing here...

If so, how in the world did cool's reply get into Antares' original post? Glitch? 🤔

Re: Difference between transits to SR and transits to Natal

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:58 am
by Antares5
TheScales_BothWays wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:41 pm
Antares5 wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:57 am in my own experience ,it feels just the same. Even if it’s a transit to LR planets it’s the same as natal transit.
If I were to rely on my Libran memory, further clouded by my angular Neptune, isn't this actually a reply by forum member coolcoolwcr? 🤔😳

IIRC, I vaguely remember scrolling the Active topics page a day or two ago, and seeing that coolcoolwcr replied to this thread. I just didn't click on the topic, being more interested to read the other ones. And now his reply seems to be missing here...

If so, how in the world did cool's reply get into Antares' original post? Glitch? 🤔
Maybe it's just a glitch. But it ain't important anyway. Jim already answered my question.