2020 Prez Election

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:04 am

After an absent of betting odds for 3 weeks—new Prez odds posted today. Buttigieg is now one of the Dem's favorite tied with Biden.

2020 US PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION - ODDS TO WIN
Trump -150
Biden +600
Buttigieg +600
Warren +800
Sanders +1400

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:56 am

Mayor Pete is taking over the over-65 demographic, especially in Iowa. (It's a perfect strategy for an Indiana mayor who is smart, well-mannered, served in the military, and and matter-of-factly embraces his religion to expect to do well in Iowa.) His latest big hit in the senior sector is his "Grey New Deal."

Last poll, he's 9% ahead of Biden in Iowa among the seniors - the most reliable voting demographic. Analysis says he not only speaks their language but reminds them of a favorite grandson that they're proud of (or a fantasy grandson they'd be proud of).

He's definitely got a shot in Iowa, a chance to beat Biden (but probably not neighbors Sanders or Warren) in NH, and he's doing surprisngly well in South Carolina - despite having not been able to pull any support from black voters.
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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:48 am

Jim wrote:
Last poll, he's 9% ahead of Biden in Iowa among the seniors - the most reliable voting demographic. Analysis says he not only speaks their language but reminds them of a favorite grandson that they're proud of (or a fantasy grandson they'd be proud of).
Very interesting! Right now I think he has a good chance of becoming the next Prez given the malefic astrological symbolism with Trump for election time.

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:18 am

Latest Vegas odds for 2020 Prez election:
Trump -170
Biden +400
Sanders +550
Warren +1200
Buttigieg +2000
Bloomberg +2000

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:47 am

I'm not sure if it matters, but I noticed that the chart for the exact Saturn-Pluto conjunction (1/12/20, 11:59 AM EST) occurs with Saturn-Pluto exactly on MC through New Hampshire.
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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:44 pm

Latest odds:
DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR THE 2020 ELECTION:
Biden +170
Sanders +225
Warren + 600
Buttigieg +1000
Bloomburg +1000
Yang +1200
Clinton +2500
2020 US PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION - ODDS TO WIN:
Trump – 200
Biden +300
Sanders +400
Warren +1500
Bloomberg +1500
Buttigieg +2000
Yang +3000
Clinton +4000

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:37 am

Bloomberg is the only Den Candidate who has made a significant move to win Dem Candidate with the betting odds. Moved from +1000 to +600. Advertisement money buys a-lot of votes :) !

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:17 am

More odds movement than normal occurring with Dem Nominee:
Biden +150
Sanders +150
Warren +500
Bloomberg +500
Buttigieg +800

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2020 Democratic nomination

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:57 am

Yesterday, Warren & Klobuchar got a dual endorsement from New York Times for the Democratic nomination. We have an AA time for Klobuchar and there is one floating around for Warren that has been useful in the past: Does it show this event?

I don't know where she was, so I'm only taking straight transits. (Please, everyone help watch where she is on June 22, her birthday.) For the 2 PM time I'm watching, Pluto (conjoined by Saturn) remains in orb of natal IC, though Saturn has departed. Transiting Neptune is 45° from her Jupiter (06'). The non-partile Uranus transit to her Jupiter would be fitting if it fell on, say, SLR or Demi-SLR angles for where she was yesterday (or where she was when the return set up). That's all. - Not very helpful.

Does anyone know where she was January 18? Late that night her Demi-SLR set up. It doesn't seem to have Sun-Uranus to her Jupiter angular anywhere in the USA.

Klobuchar had t Sun sqq. r Mercury. I suppose that is sufficient for an endorsement.
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Re: 2020 Democratic nomination

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:01 am

The Iowa Caucuses are February 3. Using an estimated wrap-up time of 8:00 PM CST, and not knowing where anyone will be that night, here are transits to the candidates for the likely conclusion. They all depend, of course, on the accuracy of the birth data.

JOE BIDEN (A data). t Pl sqq. r Pl 13', t Ne ssq. r Mo 07', t Ur conj. r Mo 50', t Sa op. r Ju 49', t Sa sqq. r Sa 48', t Ju ssq. r Ve 18'. He gets a really big surprise! Given Saturn opposite his Jupiter, it probably is a discouraging surprise.

BERNIE SANDERS (C data). t Pl sq. r Ve 01', t Ne op. r Su 29', t Sa sq. r Ma 37', t Ju sqq. r Sa 18', t Ma op. r Ju 34', t Ma sqq. r Pl 21', t Me sq r Ur 30'. Also surprised. Bernie's big problem (and maybe his advantage) is that Neptune opposes his Sun and he doesn't know who he really is right now. These transits re-raise health concerns. The news is bad for him, but not entirely bad.

ELIZABETH WARREN (C data). t Ne ssq. r Ju 42', t Sa sqq. r Ma 21', t Ju sq. r Ne 57'. Saturn to Mars looks like unsuccessful competition, and the rest like idealism and unclarity. Not as bad as the others, but not winning.

PETE BUTTIGIEG (A data). t Pl sq. r Sa 52', t Ne ssq. r Ve 34', t Ur sq. r Ve 09', t Ju sq. r Ma 04'. This not only suggests successful competition but seems to show him really happy. (Jupiter finishes crossing his Ascendant soon before.)

AMY KLOBUCHAR (AA data). No transits.
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Re: 2020 Democratic nomination

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:31 am

The New Hampshire primary is February 11. Using an estimated wrap-up time of 8:00 PM CST, and not knowing where anyone will be that night, here are transits to the candidates for the likely conclusion.

JOE BIDEN (A data). t Sa op. r Ju 04', t Sa sqq. r Sa 15', t Me sq. r Sa 14'. This is quite bad for him. I think that, after NH, he's out of the race unless he holds out for South Carolina where he expects to do very well. (He has no particular transits for the SC primary. Warren has quite excellent transits there if the birth time is correct, and Bernie at least loses Neptune to his Sun.)

BERNIE SANDERS (C data). t Pl sq. r Ve 22', t Ne op. r Su 45', t Ju sqq. r Ur 25'. I very much distrust this Neptune opposition to his Sun. Jupiter to Uranus is nice for the few days, and he is expected to do very well in NH (next to his home state), so he may do OK.

ELIZABETH WARREN (C data). t Ne ssq. r Ju 58', t Sa sqq. r Me 09', t Me sq. r Ma 45', t Me sq. r Me 48'. Warren is also from an adjacent state and should do well, but the transits suggest disappointment (not to mention irritability).

PETE BUTTIGIEG (A data). t Ne ssq. r Ve 18', t Ur sq. r Ve 20', t Ma conj. r Ne 37'. The last transit is ugly. There's no reason to think Pete will do particularly well in NH anyway, so it's hard to think what could give Ma-Ne-level feelings, and popularity does seem to be holding well. As Saturn gets closer to his Sun, this likely will fail; for now, NH gives some sort of very extreme emotional reaction, probably from a sense of attack.

AMY KLOBUCHAR (AA data). t Ju sqq. r Mo 50'. Only one transit, but it's a seriously good one. Expect her to outperform expectations.
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Re: 2020 Democratic nomination

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:00 pm

The big primary day is Super Tuesday, March 3. There is significant reason to think the nomination will be resolved by then, especially since this year it includes California. Using an estimated wrap-up time of 8:00 PM PDT, and not knowing where anyone will be that night, here are transits to the candidates for the likely conclusion.

JOE BIDEN (A data). t Ve sq. r Pl 44', t Me sq. r Su 14'. Also, t Ne is nearing his IC and t Su crosses his IC for the 48 hours prior but has just left orb as these contests are over. If Biden is still in the race, he is definitely in the limelight for the day, possibly suggesting some surges (at least in particular areas) or possibly showing his stepping aside.

BERNIE SANDERS (C data). t Pl sq. r Ma 16', t Ma sqq. r Ur 35', t Su sqq. r Pl 51'. t Su also squared his Jupiter for the 48 hours before, but now is gone. Unclear. There's a fair bit happening, it's a significant day for him. Pluto to Mars continues to concern me about his health.

ELIZABETH WARREN (C data). t Pl sqq. r Ma 32', t Ju conj. r IC 54', t Ma sqq. r Sa 34'. If this birth time is correct, she's the big winner of the day; if not, then quite the opposite. In any case, notice Saturn is approaching her Jupiter, so she will weaken (for a time?) soon.

PETE BUTTIGIEG (A data). t Ne ssq. r Ve 47', t Sa conj. r Su 27', t Ve conj. r IC 23'. Saturn has caught up to exact conjunction with his Sun. Probably this means defeat; however, if it doesn't, then it means he is on a destiny path of great fundamental importance to his life and we shouldn't doubt him going forward. Venus crosses his IC and the next day, a the dust settles, opposes his culminating Jupiter. Despite exact Sa-Su, I can't rule him out: Rather, what happens this day will tell us what the universe is ruling in and out for him for the campaign.

AMY KLOBUCHAR (AA data). t Sa sqq. r Me 10', t Ma sqq. r Mo 10'. Not good. She does quite poorly.

MICHAEL BLOOMBERG (AA data). I assume Bloomberg will be in the primaries by this date, it seems his only real strategy. Saturn will have crossed his Dsc over the prior months, so he may have had the wind taken out of his sales. Nonetheless, if he's in, here are the transits: t Ve sq. r Ve 31', t Me sq. r Ur. 55'. This seems slight, but hardly against him.
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Re: 2020 Democratic nomination

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:34 pm

For Election night, use 0:00 EST for November 4, 2020 (about an hour after the polls close on the West Coast).

BUTTIGIEG has t Pl sq. r Saturn 03' (breakthrough or breakdown?), t Uranus on r IC 35' (surprise!) op. r Jupiter 24' (really good surprise!), t Mars two or three days past op. r Mars (usual for last-week combat), t Sun ssq. r Neptune 53' (nail-biting). He could definitely win with this.

WARREN has t Pl on r IC 18', t Ju on r IC 54' (these both depend on the accuracy of a birth time of uncertain provenance which, however, has been working pretty well), t Sa sqq. r Mercury 03' (not winning, not being listened to), t Me on r EP (having something to say). If this birthtime is correct, hopefully she wasn't the candidate.

KLOBUCHAR has t Uranus op. r Neptune 38'. Again, her transits are so slight it seems she's not around. As it is, she has a reality upended a bit but little more.

BLOOMBERG Let's hope he's not the candidate since Saturn is on his Descendant, even though Venus is on his IC. Otherwise, nothing is happening.
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Re: 2020 Democratic nomination

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:44 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:57 am
Does anyone know where she was January 18?
I think you mean Warren, but here's Klobuchar's schedual: (see below for Warren)
Saturday, January 18

ISEA Forum -- Senator Klobuchar speaks at 9:25 AM
Sheraton West Des Moines
1800 50th St. West Des Moines, IA 50266

Coralville Town Hall -- Doors open at 11:30 AM, program begins at 12:00 PM
Oakdale Ballroom, Coralville Marriott
300 E. 9th Street
Coralville, IA 52241 https://www.mobilize.us/iowaforamy/event/203042/

Clinton Town Hall -- Doors open at 3:15 PM, program begins at 3:45 PM
**DUE TO WEATHER -- NEW LOCATION**
Rastrelli's
The Avanti Room
238 Main Ave
Clinton, IA 52732 https://www.mobilize.us/iowaforamy/event/203038/

Davenport Town Hall -- Doors open at 6:30 PM, program begins at 7:00 PM
Mississippi Room, RiverCenter
136 E. 3rd Street
Davenport, IA 52801 https://www.mobilize.us/iowaforamy/event/203259/

Sunday, January 19

Marion Town Hall
Details forthcoming

Citizens United at 10 Forum -- Senator Klobuchar to speak at 4:30 PM
Curate
322 E Court Ave
Des Moines, IA 50309

Urban Dreams Block Party -- Doors open at 5:00 PM, program begins at 5:30 PM
601 Forest Ave
Des Moines, IA 50314 https://www.mobilize.us/iowaforamy/event/204188/

Waukee Town Hall -- Doors open at 6:30 PM, program begins at 7:00 PM
Apex Center, Waukee Innovation & Learning Center
295 SE Ashworth Rd
Waukee, IA 50263 https://www.mobilize.us/iowaforamy/event/203607/

Monday, January 20

Ames Town Hall -- Doors open at 1:30 PM, program begins at 2:00 PM
Ames Public Library
515 Douglas Ave
Ames, IA 50010 https://www.mobilize.us/iowaforamy/event/204152/

Brown & Black Forum -- Senator Klobuchar to speak at 3:45 PM
**UPDATED TIME**
Iowa Events Center
730 3rd St
Des Moines, IA 50309

Mason City Town Hall -- Doors open at 5:30 PM, program begins at 6:00 PM
The Main Event
112 2nd St SE
Mason City, IA 50401
from https://blog.4president.org/2020/2020/0 ... -2020.html

Warren's schedule:
Please note: This schedule is subject to change as additional events are confirmed and depending on the schedule for impeachment in the U.S. Senate.

Friday, January 17th

Updated: Newton Community Conversation with Elizabeth Warren and Special Guest U.S. Rep. Deb Haaland
1:45 p.m. CT (doors open), 3:15 p.m. CT (event begins)

Maytag Complex, at Legacy Plaza
403 W. 4th St. N.
Newton, IA 50208

General public can RSVP here. https://www.mobilize.us/iowaforwarren/event/199409/

Ankeny Area Democrats Winter Banquet

6:00 p.m. CT (event begins)

FFA Enrichment Center
1055 SW Prairie Trail Pkwy
Ankeny, IA 50023

Tickets are available for purchase here. https://secure.actblue.com/donate/winterbanquet2020

Saturday, January 18th

2020 ISEA Legislative Conference

9:00 a.m. CT (program begins), 9:45 a.m. CT (Elizabeth’s estimated speaking time)

West Des Moines Sheraton
1800 50th Street
West Des Moines, Iowa 50266

New event: Planned Parenthood Action Fund Fireside Chat with Elizabeth Warren

5:00 p.m. CT (event begins)

A private residence in Des Moines

Creative Visions, Des Moines NAACP & Urban Dreams Block Party with Sen. Elizabeth Warren

6:30 p.m. CT (doors open), 7:00 p.m. CT (event begins)

Urban Dreams
601 Forest Ave
Des Moines, IA 50314

General public can RSVP here.

Sunday, January 19th

Des Moines South Side Town Hall with Elizabeth Warren

9:45 a.m. CT (doors open), 11:00 a.m. CT (event begins)

Weeks Middle School
901 E Park Avenue
Des Moines, IA 50315

General public can RSVP here. https://www.mobilize.us/iowaforwarren/event/199427

We The People 2020: Protecting Our Democracy a Decade After Citizens United

3:00p.m. CT (event begins), 3:30 p.m. CT (Elizabeth’s estimated speaking time)

Des Moines Curate Event Space
322 E. Court Avenue
Des Moines, IA 50309

General public can RSVP here. https://publiccitizen.salsalabs.org/iow ... index.html

Monday, January 20th

2020 Iowa Brown & Black Democratic Presidential Forum

11:00 a.m. CT (event begins), 2:30 p.m. CT (Elizabeth’s estimated speaking time)

Iowa Events Center
730 3rd Street
Des Moines, IA 50309

Grimes Community Conversation with Elizabeth Warren

2:00 p.m. CT (doors open), 3:30 p.m. CT (event begins)

Dallas Center Grimes Community High School
2555 West 1st Street
Grimes, IA 50111

General public can RSVP here. https://www.mobilize.us/iowaforwarren/event/199431/

Please note: This schedule is subject to change as additional events are confirmed and depending on the schedule for impeachment in the U.S. Senate.
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Re: 2020 Democratic nomination

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:46 pm

Pete Buttigieg turns 39 years old January 19, 2021, with a new SSR that is at once powerful and devastating in Washington, DC. Should be he elected, I hope he can resist coming to down immediately.

His same SSR for South Bend has Venus rising within a degree, Jupiter square MC within a degree, but with Mars-Uranus (square the Jupiter) on IC and Saturn exactly on EP - not perfect by any means, but more outright positive than the chart for Washington.

In any case, his transits for inauguration (a really rough inauguration chart with a really rough Capsolar - no matter who gets elected) would be:

t Uranus conj. r IC 1°13'
t Saturn conj. r EP 0°42' [Saturn ssq. Neptune 0°00']
t Jupiter sq. r MC 0°35'
t Mars conj. r IC 1°18'
t Venus sq. r Mars 0°50'
t Mercury conj. r Mercury 0°57'
-- t Mercury ssq. r Uranus 0°14'
t Moon sq. r Sun 0°36'
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Re: 2020 Democratic nomination

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:53 pm

Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:44 pm
Jim Eshelman wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:57 am
Does anyone know where she was January 18?
I think you mean Warren, but here's Klobuchar's schedual:
Yes, I meant Warren for her Demi-SLR setup. Kolbuchar's SLR was January 7 and her Demi January 19. Looks like January 19 in the evening (around 8 PM CST) she was in Waukee, IA. This does give natal Venus on MC, her natal Sun-Pluto square strongly foreground, and some lesser stuff that all is consistent with her getting an endorsement.

It looks like Warren spent the whole of the 18th nd 19th in Des Moines and had her Demi-SLR there. For the 2 PM birthtime (provenance unclear, it has worked quite well for several events), it doesn't really show anything consistent with the endorsement. That does not give a further reason to be confident about the time.
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