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2018 October events

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:51 am
by Jim Eshelman
Starting October a little late.

Deadly limo crash in upstate NY

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:52 am
by Jim Eshelman
October 6, 2018, just before 2 PM, Schoharie, NY

Two-car collision involving a limousine: 20 died, 17 of them from the birthday celebration that was in the limo, the driver and two pedestrians. (The second vehicle was an empty car.) I'll use 1:50 PM as a working time: Saturn was rising and Uranus on IC.

Year: Capsolar {+2}
Sun on IC 0 28'
Sun on IC 2 08'
Uranus sq. MC 0 06'
-- Sun-Uranus sq. 0 21'
-- Sun-Venus sq. 1 25'
-- Venus-Uranus 1 30' in mundo
-- Sun-Jupiter sq. 0 03' PVP
-- Mars-Jupiter conj. 1 32' PVP
-- Sun-Mars sq. 1 35' PVP
Pluto sq. Asc 1 18'
Moon-Saturn conj. 0 48' in mundo
Moon-Mercury conj. 0 51'

Bridge
t Pluto sq. Capsolar Asc 0 48'

Quarter: Cansolar {+1}
Moon on Asc 2 45'
-- Moon-Neptune sq. 0 17' PVP
Saturn is more widely foreground

Month: Caplunar {+3}
(This is perfect!)
Venus sq. MC 0 29'
Uranus on Dsc 1 09'
Mars sq. Asc 1 39'
-- Mars-Uranus sq. 0 12'

Week: Canlunar {+2}
(This one is nearly as good!)
Uranus on Dsc 0 44'
Mars on IC 1 13
-- Mars-Uranus sq. 0 28' in mundo

Day: Capsolar Quotidian & Transits {+2}
t Sun sq. p Moon 0 14'
p MC sq. s Pluto 0 09, t Pluto 0 41'
---------------------------------
t Pluto sq. s Asc 0 48'
t Mercury sq. MC 0 17'

Day: Cansolar Quotidian {+2}
p MC op. s Neptune 1 26'

Re: Deadly limo crash in upstate NY

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:53 am
by Jim Eshelman
Veronica wrote: Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:15 am This crash occured at the very bottom of a huge hill in a four way cross. The road had recently barred heavy trucks from use because it is so difficult to stop. The limo was going over 60 mph they say.
The charts are.....well...tragic.

Bond markets tank

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:56 am
by Jim Eshelman
On October 8, I wrote:
Jim Eshelman wrote: Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:56 pm Bond markets are tanking with massive losses like haven't been seen often in over 40 years. This is a.bIt of a shock to everyons, since the bond market has been the strongest sustained gain during recovery.

I tho k what this primarily means is that, while short term confidence is quite high, long term confidence is tanking. That, if I remember econ history correctly, is usually a predecessor of a money crisis.
JSAD added:
Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:53 pm The US bond market is closed today. Italy's bond market is wierding out and there may be strange things happening tomorrow AM.

Nikki Haley resigns

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:57 am
by Jim Eshelman
October 9, JSAD wrote:
Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:42 am October 9, 2018. Nikki Haley is stepping down from the UN ambassador position at the end of the year.
The White House learned about it when reporters started asking them about it at 8:24 AM
He and Haley made an official announcement at a 10:30 AM from the Oval Office.

Hurricane Michael

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:03 am
by Jim Eshelman
I'm starting a post on Hurricane Michael which I will edit over the next week as appropriate. Over the last day it has accelerated from Category 2 to Category 4 and is already threatening the Gulf coast and Florida panhandle, with secondary effects up into the Carolinas. The Florida governor just ann0ounced that it's too late to leave, and everybody left just has to hunker down and stay as safe as possible. At the moment it is about 15 miles off of Panama City, FL.

A Wikipedia page has started. Here it is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Michael

At of Wednesday morning (right now), with the focus on Panama City, the new Liblunar has Mercury-Uranus square Asc for Panama City, FL and a barely foreground Mars-Jupiter square. The Caplunar has Moon exactly on IC (rain!) with Mars-Uranus plus Pluto hanging in the foreground fringes.

UPDATE 10/11:
Hurricane Michael made landfall as a 155 mph Category 4 storm (2 mph short of Cat 5) October 10, at 12:15 PM CDT (another source said "just before 1 PM"), in Mexico Beach, FL near Tyndall AFB. Mexico Beach is 29N57 85W25; Tyndall is 30N09 84W39. This is a non-trivial difference, and since most sources say "near Mexico Beach," I think we should go with that. In any case, Saturn was rising as it hit. LATER: Mexico Beach should be the spot. FEMA called it ground zero. The town has effectively ceased to exist. The few houses standing in aerial pictures aren't in their original locations: They were lifted off their foundations and moved across town (if there were still a town to move across).

The CANSOLAR was particularly on-target with Neptune 22' from WP.

The CAPLUNAR has Moon exactly on IC (a rain indicator) with a foreground Mars-Uranus square and a foreground Pluto.

The LIBUNAR has Uranus 06' from square Asc (op. Mercury) and a (barely) foreground partile Mars-Jupiter mundane square.

The quotidians seem just off, as if this were not the most concentrated location. I have yet to find a chart with suitable daily timing other than the Liblunar setting up soon before impact. This is highly unusual.

Re: 2018 October events

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:56 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
The Dow dropped 831.something points today on news of falling interest rates and trade tension with China.

Re: 2018 October events

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:56 pm
by Jim Eshelman
Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:56 pm The Dow dropped 831.something points today on news of falling interest rates and trade tension with China.
For a likely short-term effect, the CapQ MC squared ingress Pluto Wednesday (while Pluto still transits Capsolar IC). The new Liblunar was dormant (though, if read, suggested it would cost people money and create a new investment opportunity), so the Canlunar is still in full-steam mode.

Re: Hurricane Michael

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:06 pm
by Jim Eshelman
These charts were all quite good until timing the day. Arguably, the trigger was the Liblunar less than a day before the event. Given how well these daily charts normally perform, I'd like to find a fuller explantion of what was going on with daily timing.

In what follows, charts labelled Q are the Q2 as usual, and the PSSIs are all mean rate (but estimated - my quickie check - probably quite close, but know that they weren't rigorously calculated).

Statistics previously have shown that the performance of all three non-Capsolar quotidians / transits perform distinctly better when the Capsolar dailies have nothing to say. Usually we can rely on the Cansolar for this but, it being imperfect, I want to look at the other two as well, in addition to the PSSIs.

Capsolar Quotidian {+0}
p MC sq. p Moon 1°36'

Cansolar Quotidian & Transits {-2|+2 = +1}
p MC conj. s Venus 1°38'
-----------------------------
t Neptune op. s EP 1°31'

Arisolar Quotidian {+2}
p Asc op. t Venus 0°29', sq. t Mars 0°45'
-- Venus-Mars sq. 0°16'
p EP conj. t Uranus 0°20', op. t Mercury 0°45'
-- t Mercury-Uranus op. 0°02'
t MC sq. s Uranus 0°53
t Pluto sq. p Moon 0°37'
-- t Sun op. p Moon 0°49'
-- NB These fell on CapQ Vx 23°18' Virgo
------------------------------------
t Uranus sq. s MC 0°26'
-- t Mercury sq. s MC 0°24'
-- Mercury-Uranus op. 0°02'

Libsolar Quotidian & Transits {+2}
t Pluto sq. p Moon 0°16'
NOTE: LibQ Moon is 23°31' Virgo. AriQ Moon is 23°09' Pisces
----------------------------
t Pluto op. s Asc 1°03'


Capsolar PSSI (Dormant.)

Cansolar PSSI {+2}
p MC sq. t Saturn 0°20', s Saturn 1°22', conj. p Moon 1°37'

Arisolar PSSI {+2}
p MC conj. t Neptune 1°26' applying

Libsolar PSSI (Dormant.)
However, if the apparent solar rate moves this PSSI forward or backward 3°, angles hit Mars or Saturn.


CONCLUSION
Statistics show that the CapQ and Capsolar transits normally handle the daily timing splendidly and, when they don't, the Cansolar equivalents are almost always sufficient to fill the gap.

Technically, that's true here, also, Neptune's transit to Cansolar WP being sufficient to tip the scales to a +1 even in the face of a questionable Venus quotidian crossing.

But, more fully, statistics show that when the CapQ is dormant, all three non-Capsolar daily sets perform much better than usual, and have adequate scores. That also came out this time, since the AriQ + Arisolar transits were quite remarkable. In a symbolically apt way, but with timing more vague, the Libsolar came through as well. Taken together, the Cansolar, Arisolar, and Libsolar timings were quite good, as statistics tell us to suspect.

This doesn't solve the practical problem of how to track such vulnerable times and places - we still need better calculation tools for that - but it does explain the technical considerations of the event.

This leaves the question of the PSSI. Of four possibilities, the Cansolar PSSI (because it's current quarter???) was exactly on, and the Arisolar PSSI was OK. The Cansolar PSSI is the kind of chart we outright expect and hadn't seen. The question, though, is whether this adds anything in the face of the performance of the more conventional tools.

Re: Deadly limo crash in upstate NY

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:41 pm
by Jim Eshelman
New York Times did a wonderful, detailed profile - it reads like a novel - of the people who died in this crash and how the whole thing happened. I recommend the time to read it (it's kinda long) - there were a couple of solar returns on the line with this. Someone could do astrology a great good dead by contacting the families etc. to get these 20 people's birth data.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/13/nyre ... te-ny.html

Crimea students slain

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:06 am
by Jim Eshelman
October 17, 2018, hour unknown, Kerch, Crimea

18 are dead and about 50 others injured at Kerch Polytechnic College in Crimea. Reports remain confused. The incident was first reported as a gas explosion, then as an explosive device, and there remain reports consistent with an explosion; but a gunman was also shooting, and currently seems responsible for 17 student deaths and then for killing himself.

Information has been escaping the area in a piecemeal and contradictory way.

The CAPSOLAR has a close Jupiter-Pluto mundane square (plus Sun aspecting each) within 2 degrees of angles. These are more the markers of a terrorist attack or assault on the Russian government that is currently controlling Crimea, a historic part of Ukraine.

The CANSOLAR has Pluto square MC.

The new CAPLUNAR is a chart to set up for yourself and examine closely. I haven't broken it down finely but notice it has Sun on IC, Mercury-Venus square Ascendant and tied into Mars, Moon-Sun square on angles, Mars exactly setting mundane square Sun, and some Uranus. A full breakout would disclose the orb priorities.

The CapQ needs closer work when I'm at a full computer. At a glance, Venus seems stronger than Jupiter and Mars near EP need orbs checked. However, Mars was exactly transiting Capsolar EP for the event. Pluto is on CanQ MC.

Re: Deadly limo crash in upstate NY

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:36 pm
by Veronica
Jim Eshelman wrote: Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:41 pm New York Times did a wonderful, detailed profile - it reads like a novel - of the people who died in this crash and how the whole thing happened. I recommend the time to read it (it's kinda long) - there were a couple of solar returns on the line with this. Someone could do astrology a great good dead by contacting the families etc. to get these 20 people's birth data.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/13/nyre ... te-ny.html

this link has all the obits for them, most are complete with place of birth, but no birth times published.

https://dailygazette.com/article/2018/1 ... obituaries


Scott Lisinicchia. May 5 1965 Bronx Ny. Driver
Patrick Cushing June 6 1987 Amsterdam NY
Amanda Halse April 18 1992 Troy NY
Savannah Burses Feb 9 1994 Oneota Ny
Mary Dyson May 9 1985 Plattsburg (sisters)
Abigal Jackson Nov 11 1983 Plattsburg NY (Sisters)
Allison King June 17 1987 Plattsburg Ny (sisters)
Amy Steenburg Plattsburg Ny (sisters....limo was for her party)
RobertDyson April 29 1984 Geneva NY
Adam Jackson June 28 NY Amsterdam NY
Michael Ukaj (his bday also)
Matt Coons Jan 24 1991 Amsterdam NY

Also killed in Limo
Shane McGowan
Erin McGowan
Axel Steenburg
Amanda Rivenburg
Rachael Cavosie , Troy Ny
Richard Steenburg

Hit by Limo
Brian Hough
James Schnurr

Amritsar, India - train hits crowd, kills dozens

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:56 pm
by Jim Eshelman
October 19, 2018, 7:10 PM, Amritsar, India

This is such a big event, I'm already moving it to its own thread:
https://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=2636

The basics: At least 60 people died, and over 100 more were injured, when a commuter train ran through a crowd of hundreds of people standing on the tracks watching the burning of an effigy of the demon Ravana during a Dussehra festival celebration. Dismembered body parts littered the tracks. The noise of celebration, including fireworks, evidently drowned out the sound of the approaching train.

Jamal Khashoggi murder

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:20 am
by Jim Eshelman
Jamal Khashoggi's murder has dominated headlines this month. I finally got accurate data on this. He was killed October 2, 2018, approximately 1:30 PM in Istanbul. The Saudi consulate in Istanbul is at 41N05'09'', 29E00'43''.

Does this show as the date and place of an international crime?

Istanbul's CAPSOLAR has Pluto rising (0°55'), and it has been a tumultuous year for them.

The CAPLUNAR is quite primed for bloody violence! Mars (which squares Uranus within 0°12') looks to be exactly rising but, in fact, is 4°21' below Asc; but Uranus voids dormancy by squaring Asc 0°14'.

The ARILUNAR is less clear but along the right general lines: Sun is in the immediate foreground, with Mercury, Mars, Saturn, and Pluto more widely angular. The Sun-Pluto mundane square (1°50') is noteworthy.

CAPQ highlights the Sun-Uranus square. Transiting Pluto is conjunct Capsolar Asc and (ah, here's the timing!) transiting Mars is 0°09' from Capsolar EP.

Bombs sent...

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:14 am
by Jim Eshelman
Climaxing over a month of angular Mars-Uranus aspects, a bomb was found in mail going to George Soros three days ago then, in the last 24 hours, other bombs being mailed to Bill & Hillary Clinton and to Barack Obama.

UPDATE (a few minutes later). Now CNN headquarters in NYC (Time-Warner Center) is being evacuated due to the same kind of device. Sounds like war! Please see the prior Caplunar and Canlunar, then last night's Arilunar in the recent forecast posts.

UPDATE (a few minutes later). Another was just found addressed to the White House.

Re: Bombs sent...

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:11 am
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
UPDATE (before CNN found one) bombs addressed to the Clintons and the Obamas were found.
Although there were reports of a device addressed to the White House, but that's not accurate.
All the mail that goes to the White House, members of Congress, and anyone protected by the Secret Service goes through the same facility, which is where the packages to the Clintons and Obamas were found.

Re: Bombs sent...

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:26 am
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
A "suspicious" package is being crept up on by a robot at Debbie Wasserman Schultz Miami office right now. The Clinton's package was intercepted at the Secret Service facility that serves their home in Chappaqua.

Re: Bombs sent...

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:34 am
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Governor Cuomo (NY) and Eric Holder have both had packages intercepted.
All the packages have Debbie Wasserman Schultz's return address.

Re: Bombs sent...

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:07 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
The hosts on air at CNN were told to evacuate the building at 10:10 AM ET, the building is on Columbus Circle (SW corner of Central Park) NYC.

Re: 2018 October events

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:38 am
by Veronica
Robert DeNiro got a package as well. Sent to Tribeca.

Re: Bombs sent...

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:20 am
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Someone was taken into custody in Florida before 11:10 AM ET in the package bombs case according to "the Justice Department" (not sure if that's the DC or Florida administration. Trump did not know about it during his 11 AM press conference. It appears a package addressed to Cory Booker was found in the mail processing facility in Opalocka before 4 AM, and traced back to a 56 year old man who lives in a van in a parking lot in Plantation, Fla.

Re: Bombs sent...

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:24 am
by Jim Eshelman
Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:20 am Someone was taken into custody in Florida before 11:10 AM ET in the package bombs case according to "the Justice Department" (not sure if that's the DC or Florida administration. Trump did not know about it during his 11 AM press conference. It appears a package addressed to Cory Booker was found in the mail processing facility in Opalocka before 4 AM, and traced back to a 56 year old man who lives in a van in a parking lot in Plantation, Fla.
His name is Cesar Sayoc, born 3/17/62, Brooklyn, NY (no other details known yet). Without a time I can only detect Pluto sesqui-square his Mercury, Jupiter soon to square his Jupiter (probably a celebrity play-off), a lot of general markers of attention-seeking. But he' a Pisces-Cancer with closest aspect an exact Jupiter-Uranus opposition, so I suspect we'll hear that he was doing this from some motive like freedom (in his own head). This story will have play between now and the election, especially until his voter registration is disclosed...

LATER: An astrologer I know has tentatively proposed a 3:16 AM birth time based on transits, solar arcs, and progressions. What interests me is that I was very very tentatively thinking the birth was most likely in the very early hours of the day, due to lunar progressions. My first impression is that it's about an hour earlier, say 2:16 AM.

Re: Bombs sent...

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:24 am
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
He's a registered Republican. He claimed to be a Seminole and had native heritage stickers on his van, along with Trump enthusiastic stickers and photos of Democrats with cross-hairs over the faces.
He has been convicted on theft, stolen property and traffic charges and in 2002 on a threat to "throw, place, project or discharge any destructive device."
Miami Herald says he was born in NY.

Shooting at synagogue in Squirrel Hill area of Pittsburgh

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:16 am
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
10/27/2018 Shabbat services at Tree of Life Synagogue started at 9:45 AM. First reports of shootings at 10:10 AM. Twelve shot, 4 confirmed dead, 3 police officers among the injured. Two other congregations also share the building.
5898 Wilkins Ave, Pittsburgh, PA

Re: Shooting at synagogue in Squirrel Hill area of Pittsburgh

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:40 am
by Jim Eshelman
I am moving this to its own thread:
https://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=2675#p19444

Lion Air flight 610 crashed into the sea

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:40 am
by TheScales_BothWays
According to the Guardian, flight JT610 of Indonesia's low-cost airline, Lion Air, crashed into the sea, 13 minutes after its take-off from Jakarta at 6.20AM. It's a new Boeing 737 MAX 8 that is supposed to land in Pangkal Pinang, Indonesia. The aircraft had only been used for two months, yet its emergency beacon did not emit a distress signal, despite being certified as working until August 2019.

189 people were on board, including passengers and crew. 20 of them were Indonesian officials. No news or indications of casualties and the cause of the crash so far. Waters at the crash site are 30-35 metres deep, and flight data showed it made a sudden, sharp dive into the sea.

Location of the crash, from various sources, and from an article in the Indonesian National Search and Rescue Agency's website:
05.46.15 S - 107.07.16 E
Not sure whether the dots represent degrees and minutes, but it probably does. (The article's also written in Indonesian, so as a Malaysian, I thank the mutual intelligibility between the Malay and Indonesian languages.)

Re: Lion Air flight 610 crashed into the sea

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:30 am
by Jim Eshelman
Wow, thanks for doing all this research, Scales. Saved me a lot of time this morning.

The Wikipedia article confirms various details, including that the coordinates you found were degrees, minutes, and seconds.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_Air_Flight_610

I have moved this to its own thread:
https://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=2676#p19445

Hate Crime in Kentucky

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:31 am
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
October 26, 2018
Jeffersonville, KY, suburb of Louisville
2:54 p.m.: “Be advised daytime, responding to a shooting 9080 Taylorsville Road at the Kroger."
2:57 p.m.: “Be advised someone still shooting.”
A man (a grandfather) was murdered inside a grocery store. The gunman then walked outside, killed a woman, came under fire from an armed citizen, told another armed citizen "whites don't kill whites" (since when?) got in his car and was stopped and taken into custody before he got down the block. He was later seen on survalience tape trying to get into a nearby black church 10 to 15 minutes before.

Re: 2018 October events

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:03 am
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Another pipe bomb addressed to CNN was found in Atlanta at a mail-sorting facility this morning. Don't know if it was from the same jerk, or a different one.

Re: 2018 October events

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:27 am
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Wanaque Center for Nursing and Rehabilitation in Haskell, New Jersey
beginning September 26, 2018
An adenovirus sickened at least a dozen children and has killed another 9 in a nursing facility in New Jersey. These are children who are "medically fragile" and need more care than can be provided at home. The virus has been confirmed in the facility since September 26. The health department was notified of respiratory illness at the center on October 9. The facility sent parents of children at the facility letters about the infection on October 19, according to the health department. It's not clear exactly when some of the deaths occurred.

Re: Hate Crime in Kentucky

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:37 am
by Jim Eshelman
Sigh. Another day, another Mars crossing. The Caplunar had Neptune rising within about a degree. The Arilunar has a complex pattern of Mars setting and Sun-Venus-Uranus along meridian. Then Mars crossed the local Cansolar IC over the last few days.
Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:31 am October 26, 2018
Jeffersonville, KY, suburb of Louisville
2:54 p.m.: “Be advised daytime, responding to a shooting 9080 Taylorsville Road at the Kroger."
2:57 p.m.: “Be advised someone still shooting.”
A man (a grandfather) was murdered inside a grocery store. The gunman then walked outside, killed a woman, came under fire from an armed citizen, told another armed citizen "whites don't kill whites" (since when?) got in his car and was stopped and taken into custody before he got down the block. He was later seen on survalience tape trying to get into a nearby black church 10 to 15 minutes before.

Re: 2018 October events

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:43 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
U.S. Penitentiary Hazelton, West Virginia
8:20 AM Tuesday October 30, 2018
Whitey Bulger, notorious murderer/mobster, was found dead after having been trasferred to the prison yesterday. No other information is being given out, but word has it another well-know gangster is suspected.

Re: 2018 October events

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:28 pm
by Jim Eshelman
Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:43 pm U.S. Penitentiary Hazelton, West Virginia
8:20 AM Tuesday October 30, 2018
Whitey Bulger, notorious murderer/mobster, was found dead after having been trasferred to the prison yesterday. No other information is being given out, but word has it another well-know gangster is suspected.
Rats don't have a long life-expectancy in prison.

The location in West Virginia is part of the Pluto IC (less than half a degree) line that moves down the east coast. It's also on the Mars setting line for the Arilunar, Mars being 0°49' away.

Then the CapQ was not quite right. It had a long-term transiting Sun on IC plus Mars too far from Descendant to count (over 3° away). We do have Pluto transiting Capsolar IC. The showpiece is the CanQ, with Asc sq. s Neptune (1°19'0 and EP conj. t Saturn (1°45').