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Strongest storm (maybe) ever bearing down on Philippines

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:09 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:09 am
The strongest storm ever, according to most news media, will make landfall in the Southern Philippines soon. Superstorm Typhoon Hiyan has windgusts over 230 mph. Sustained winds of 195mph. (Katrina had 120mpn)

The CapSolar at Manilla shows Mercury on the Asc, which would indicate lots of wind, anyway. They are expecting a large storm surge.

Re: Strongest storm (maybe) ever bearing down on Philippines

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:10 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Jim Eshelman wrote:
The Libsolar and Caplunar for Manila both have Jupiter exactly on the angle - part of the hurricane protocol for massive amounts of rain.

But the storm made landfall at 5:00 AM in Guiuan. For there, we get some fascinating charts that are more accurate elsewhere - the storm has a big geographic reach.

For example, for Guiuan the Capsolar has Saturn almost 5° off the MC. Saturn is exact just off the islands, though (as you mentioned) Sun and Mercury cut right through the islands.

The Cansolar has the Jupiter-Mars conjunction right on the Descendant for Guiuan - violence plus massive rain. Uranus is also near the IC, square Mercury-Pluto.

The Libsolar has Jupiter right through the islands. The October 12 Caplunar has Jupiter partile square the Sun and near the IC for Guiuan. The Canlunar has Mars exactly setting, opposite a more widely rising Neptune. The Liblunar has Jupiter near the IC (exact for Manila, very wide for Guiuan).

Saturn, by now, is only 14' from conjunct progressed Cansolar Moon. For Guiuan, the CanQ Descendant is on ingress Saturn and transiting Mercury.

Re: Strongest storm (maybe) ever bearing down on Philippines

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:10 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Jim Eshelman wrote:
I don't know if this is the optimum place to examine. We need to check the impact. But it's what I had for first landfall.

Re: Strongest storm (maybe) ever bearing down on Philippines

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:11 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Jim Eshelman wrote:
Updates from CNN articles this morning...

Hit Samar 4:30 AM (Nov 8). (That's a province, capital is Catbalogan 11N46, 124E53). I'm thinking we should look primarily to Manila, though, on the "as goes the capital" theory. (Haiyan is "so large that, at one point, its clouds were affecting two-thirds of the country.") Nonetheless, 4:30 AM gives a usable time.

Casualties: At least 3 dead, 7 hurt. (Expected to rise with more information.)

Damage: "flooding streets and knocking out power and communications networks" of some surrounding areas. About 90% of infrastructure and "establishments" was "heavily damaged."

"flood waters... as high as 10 feet"
"hundreds of flights were cancelled"
"With sea travel suspended in many areas, more than 3,000 travelers were stranded in ports..."
"Sustained high winds of 315 kph (195 mph) and gusts as strong as 380 kph (235 mph)... may be the strongest tropical cyclone to hit land anywhere in recorded history."
"...the worst was over quickly. But the damage was still severe."

It's been a rough season for some of these people. A 7.1 earthquake hit the island of Bohol last month [date?].

Re: Strongest storm (maybe) ever bearing down on Philippines

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:12 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Jim Eshelman wrote:
Here is a formal workup for Manila, using the 4:30 AM time.

Year: Capsolar
Mercury rising 1°29'
Sun rising 2°42', on EP 2°58' (the other side)
Saturn 9°53' from MC
Sun-Mercury conj (mundo 1°14')
Moon-Jupiter sq 0°05'

Half-year: Cansolar
Mars on WP 0°48'
Jupiter on WP 1°38'
Mars-Jupiter conj. (mundo 2°04', 2°15' eclipto)
Mars/Jupiter 0°25' from WP
Uranus stationary on IC (8°38')
Jupiter-Uranus sq (0°55')
Mars-Uranus sq (mundo 3°00')

Quarter: Libsolar
Jupiter setting (1°36')
Sun culminating (2°57')

Month: Caplunar
Sun setting (2°11')
Pluto culminating (4°11')
Uranus rising (4°36')
Uranus sq. Pluto (mundo 0°15')
Jupiter anticulminating (8°40'), sq. Asc 2°56'
Sun-Jupiter sq. 0°13'

Fortnight: Canlunar
Neptune on EP 0°27', risign 2°25'
Mars setting 5°57'
Mars-Neptune op. 3°20' mundo

Week: Liblunar
Moon on WP 2°19', setting 4°59'
Jupiter anticulminating 3°17'
Moon-Jupiter sq. mundo 1°42'
Mercury setting 7°16'
Sun setting 8°30'
Sun-Mercury conj. 1°12'
(Technically dormant, though the flood and wind symbolism are appropriate.)

Day: Capsolar
t. Mercury conj. Capsolar MC 1°21'
t. Jupiter (stationary) conj. Capsolar Desc 1°39'

Day: Cansolar
t. Venus conj. Cansolar EP (0°55')
I. Sun on CanQ IC 1°03'
t. Saturn conj. CanQ Moon 0°15'
t. Sun conj. CanQ Moon 0°57'
Su/Sa = CanQ Moon 0°21'

Summary
Year: Mercury, Sun (Saturn). Moon-Jupiter, Sun-Mercury.
--- Half-year: Mars, Jupiter (Uranus). Mars-Jupiter, Jupiter-Uranus, Mars-Uranus.
--- --- Quarter: Sun, Jupiter.
Month: Sun, Jupiter (Pluto, Uranus). Sun-Jupiter, Uranus-Pluto.
--- Fortnight: Neptune (Mars). Mars-Neptune.
--- --- Week: (Dormant.)
Day (Capsolar): Mercury, Jupiter (transits to Capsolar).
Day (Cansolar): Venus. (transit to Cansolar). Sun, Moon-Saturn, Sun-Moon (CanQ).

Comparison to Expectations
For hurricanes, we expect Neptune (and the malefics in general) plus the rain planets. Mercury may also prove to be a factor, representing wind (and it is highly involved here). This event matches those expectations closely except that Neptune is less present than usual (though in one of the most critical charts: the prevailing lunar ingress).

Re: Strongest storm (maybe) ever bearing down on Philippines

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:13 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Jim Eshelman wrote:
Update on casualties: One hard-hit town has over 100 deaths.

Re: Strongest storm (maybe) ever bearing down on Philippines

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:14 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Sirius Lee wrote:
Jim Eshelman wrote:It's been a rough season for some of these people. A 7.1 earthquake hit the island of Bohol last month [date?].
October 15, 2013 at 8:12 a.m PST (UTC+08:00)

Re: Strongest storm (maybe) ever bearing down on Philippines

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:15 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Sirius Lee wrote:
Typhoons in the Philippines are known to linger for days on end. This one was in and out in within a day, a mere instant in the grand scheme of things (Mercury). All things considered, the damage wrought by the typhoon was much lower than expected, perhaps because the sheer number of storms that cross that country every year has made Filipinos battle-hardened where tropical storms are concerned.

Re: Strongest storm (maybe) ever bearing down on Philippines

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:16 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Sirius Lee wrote:
I may have spoken too soon regarding the relatively light damage from the storm. Many areas are still without any means of communication, and the authorities are fearing the death toll may be in the thousands.

Re: Strongest storm (maybe) ever bearing down on Philippines

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:17 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Jim Eshelman wrote:
By this morning, the death-toll so far is 1,200.

This is till light. It's probably going to keep climbing as more information comes in, though it's also true that there isn't the population density of some other areas. The Galveston hurricane took 8,000 lives or more; Katrina about 1,500; and Sandy, despite the extreme population density where it hit, only killed about 300 people.

Re: Strongest storm (maybe) ever bearing down on Philippines

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:17 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Jim Eshelman wrote:
Estimates this morning are placing the death toll at closer to 10,000. This likely exceeds the death toll for the Galveston hurricane.

Re: Strongest storm (maybe) ever bearing down on Philippines

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:18 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
SteveS wrote:
From a Vedic Site (before the hurricane became a monster) which, imo, could offer an astrological explanation for this hurricane. I know nothing about the Vedic tradition, but with Saturn conjunct the Eclipse--makes sense.
Solar Hybrid Eclipse
November 3, 2013
17 degrees Libra
4:46 AM PM PDT (12:46 PM UT) (Center of eclipse)
Swati Nakshatra

There will be a Rare Solar Hybrid Eclipse on November 3, 2013. This eclipse occurs in the nakshatra of Swati, in the middle of Libra. Swati's shakti is the power to scatter like the wind. It is ruled by Vayu the god of the wind. It's desire is the desire to roam freely throughout the universe. The eclipse heightens this tendency and may also cause problems related to wind, travel and dispersion.
Vayu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vayu

Re: Strongest storm (maybe) ever bearing down on Philippines

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:19 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
SteveS wrote:
Related to my previous post in this thread, the associated star for the Vedic Nakshatra of Swati is Arcturus. With my latest astrological reserch pertaining to this most powerful storm, I find the following quote about Arcturus most interesting:
In Ancient Rome, the star Arcturus celestial activity was supposed to portend tempestuous weather…
Also:
Prehistoric Polynesian navigators knew Arcturus as Hōkūleʻa... Arcturus is the zenith star of the Hawaiian Islands.


It appears by ancient astronomical lore, Arcturus has mundane meaning with the location of the Pacific Ocean.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcturus

Re: Strongest storm (maybe) ever bearing down on Philippines

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:20 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
SteveS wrote:
In India Arcturus was the 13th nakshatra (Hindu Moon Mansion, Svati, the Good Goer, or perhaps Sword, but figured as a Coral Bead, Gem, or Pearl; and known there also as Nishtya, Outcast, possibly from its remote northern situation far outside of the zodiac, whence, from its brilliancy, it was arbitrarily taken to complete the series of Hindu asterisms (Allen Star Names, p.98.). Robson says the regent, Vayu, the god of the wind, ruled by the Dragon's Head. Rules rice fields. [Robson, p.81.]
I think rice is the number 1 export from the Philippines. It appears that Saturn conjuncting the Nov 3rd Eclipse in the nakshatra of Swati, ruled by Vayu, the Vedic ‘god of the wind’, along with the star of Arcturus being associated with the nakshatra Swati, manifested this monster wind storm. This nakshatra Swati covers in the Sidereal Zodiac a space from 6,40 Lib to 20,00 Lib, and we note the Dragon’s head and Mercury (wind), along with the Nov 3rd Eclipse and Saturn was in the nakshatra of Swati. IMO, we are seeing the lost remnants of a very ancient mundane Vedic astrological knowledge pertaining to sections (nakshatra) of the Sidereal Zodiac, possibly having something to do with mundane affairs on sections of the Earth.

Re: Strongest storm (maybe) ever bearing down on Philippines

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:22 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Jim Eshelman wrote:
This is an impressive "hit," and deserving of attention. I find a few weaknesses in it, and a few strengths.

While Hindu astrology usually counts a "conjunction" as same sign - and, therefore, this fits within their rules - from what we know about aspects this is a bit wide (wider than we would consider, for example, in an ingress chart). The eclipse occurred with the Sun at 16°20' Libra (and Moon at 16°17' Libra), with Saturn more than 2 1/2° away at 18°57' Libra.

On the other hand, something they apparently didn't credit, is that the eclipse was flanked by Saturn and Mercury. Mercury seems to be emerging as causing extreme wind in some situations. The Mercury-Saturn midpoint was 15°43' Libra, within a degree of the eclipse.

On the other other hand, in Manila this structure was mid-quadrant and extremely weak, not linked to the location at all; while in the strict Hindu system, it fell in the 5th house - a trikona, one of the luckiest and best-for-good locations, with the Ascendant ruler (Mercury) actually in the 5th house. It's a raja yoga, an aspect of extreme best fortune. (In fact, the rulers of the 1st and 9th houses - the other two trikonas - Mercury and Saturn - are conjoined in the trikona 5th with the eclipse. It's a maharajayoga.)

FInally, on the OTHER other other hand, the eclipse had some rough static aspects. Mars was 16°15' Leo, sextile the sun within 5', and Pluto 14°32' Sagittarius, close tied in. The Mars-Pluto midpoint at 15°24' Libra is the Mercury-Saturn midpoint and within a degree of the eclipse.

But none of this links the Manila.

Re: Strongest storm (maybe) ever bearing down on Philippines

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:23 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
SteveS wrote:
Jim wrote:
This is an impressive "hit," and deserving of attention. I find a few weaknesses in it, and a few strengths.
What I find so striking: How in the Universe did the ancient Vedic tradition assign 06,40 to 20 Lib in the Sidereal Zodiac as something to do with the ‘god of wind?’ Using your keen observation as the Midpoint of ME/SAT=NOV 3RD ECLIPSE is very impressive, when considering this planetary picture falls in a section of our zodiac ruled by a Vedic ‘god of wind.’ But, as you noted we have no link to Manila. I can’t help to think the Vedic tradition of the ‘Nakshatras’ contains some grains of gold for mundane astrology, but its true system has been overlaid with too much personal astrology. Do you know of any reliable source which tells us from the Vedic tradition which Nakshatras sections of the zodiac rule certain mundane happenings?

Re: Strongest storm (maybe) ever bearing down on Philippines

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:24 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn

Re: Strongest storm (maybe) ever bearing down on Philippines

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:24 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Jim Eshelman wrote:
Yes, the drama of the casualty count and the overall damage is severe.

Re: Strongest storm (maybe) ever bearing down on Philippines

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:25 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Jim Eshelman wrote:
Death toll is now officially over 6,000, with 1,800 still reported missing and over 27,000 reported injured. 3.9 million people were forced from their homes.

Re: Strongest storm (maybe) ever bearing down on Philippines

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:27 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
SteveS wrote:
Source: "Independence was granted by the USA on 4 July 1946. The critical moment was the lowering of the American flag at 9.15 am and the hoisting of the Philippines flag." Campion, "The Book of World Horoscopes," p. 282.

Jul 4, 1946
9.15.00 AM CCT (-08)
Manila
121E00'00"; 14N35'00"


Par-Excellent Symbolism with Oct 19th Lunar Eclipse Mars-Neptune Paran on the Horizon of Manila’s Independence Chart. An angry Poseidon! Note this Lunar Eclipse falling in Sidereal Cardinal 0 degree axis of Aires/Libra

Rising S.T. for Manila’s Horizon 04:04:49
Rising S.T. for Lunar Eclipse Mars 04:05:42
Setting S.T. for Lunar Eclipse Nep 04:08:09