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Mars-Uranus Promethean

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:05 pm
by Soft Alpaca
Curious I saw this title in on of Garth Allen's descriptions for scorpio however running through the non Scorpio or Aquarius charts that still have Mars/Uranus as a large or competing energy would this be an appropriate archetype to describe them? [I would call Mars/Saturn Pan archetype so would this apply the same way].

Using what Garth Allen says in his description of promethean of course.

But also in the theme "to spite the Gods", stick it to the man, rebel with a cause etc.

Also in the meaning of forethought (I've noticed scorpio Aquarius types sometimes act while thinking or without thinking where as Uranus-Mars higher Urianan thinking is an action itself).

Re: Mars-Uranus Promethean

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:56 pm
by Jim Eshelman
In that one sense, perhaps.

It's not at all what I think of as "Promethean," but, going with the way you defined it, I'd say your idea fits.

Re: Mars-Uranus Promethean

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:52 pm
by Soft Alpaca
Jim how would you define promethean (aside from what Allen said)?

Re: Mars-Uranus Promethean

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:03 pm
by Jim Eshelman
Beanies+Bad habits wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:52 pm Jim how would you define promethean (aside from what Allen said)?
I define promethean as the giving, from on-high, of the greatest (often otherwise unattainable) gifts to humanity.

The name literally means "foresight," and there is necessarily a characteristic of futurism in the sense of "seeing ahead" and channeling foresighted wisdom.

Re: Mars-Uranus Promethean

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:07 pm
by Soft Alpaca
This sounds like a purely Uranus Idea by those words.

Re: Mars-Uranus Promethean

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:17 pm
by Jim Eshelman
Beanies+Bad habits wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:07 pm This sounds like a purely Uranus Idea by those words.
I wasn't relating it to astrology at all. I was talking about the literal meaning of the word.

FWIW I think it's primarily Jupiter - possibly Jupiter-Uranus, but especially Jupiter. Prometheus is the transcendental Gift from on high.

Re: Mars-Uranus Promethean

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:00 am
by Soft Alpaca
Im unintelligent a bit here Jim. Prometheus is the forethinker which is a very uranus idea (one could argue the level above mercury) and his thoughts were to unshakle people by gifting them fire but clearly he also is Jupiter, that is gift's from above but also in his ambition.

He definitely is kind of the perfect counterfoil to Zeus who is the Sun and Jupiter (Ego and ambition). Their story is also themed in punishment for unshackling the Ego and eventual forgiveness (which symbolizes acceptance of a truer self dispite the goals of Jupiter)

I couldn't rest this was eating at me...