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I must admit that I can not wait to get this SSR over and done with ...so I am now looking at what my next SSR will be like in the hope of seeing something positive and maybe some change. It does seem to bring about some changes since t. Uranus will be 0,08 conjunct rel. EP.

The SSR in Edinburgh as a stand alone chart:
Mars partile 0,04 square SSR EP.
SSR Moon partile trine t. Pluto.
SSR Sun within 3° from t. Venus
SSR IC is on the midpoint between Sun and Mars

With the Mars as the most prominent in the SSR as a stand alone chart it seems like a year of being aggressive, independent, high on energy/drive, being busy and lots of sex.

Ebertin says about the Sun-Mars=MC midpoint:

""Union with the husband", also "marriage"".

Hmmm... don't feel like that right now.
Ebertin about Sun-Venus:

Physical love, harmony, beauty, art, the ideal. Popularity, love-union, potentialities of artistic development.

IF natal relocated chart is considered it gets more interesting since the t. Uranus will be so close to rel. EP, and it also puts t. Venus square to that rel EP. Not only that, but this also shows the SSR ASC partile my n. Venus with n. Jup on the opposite side AND SSR Jup within 2° from rel. DSC. Seems like love and affection both received and expressed. Sounds nice Natal Moon falls partile 0,33° from SSR EP.
Could also mean the SSR Mars being conjunct my natal Mercury simply means lots of arguments.

However if I compare the SSR in Edinburgh to my natal chart (not relocated) ... it adds the SSR Pluto partile 0,11 sq the n. EP and SSR Mercury within 3° from sq that point.

Arena wrote: Thu May 23, 2019 6:27 am Mars partile 0,04 square SSR EP.

I'm sure you will find that this, on which you focussed later in your post, is not a valid contact. The point we write as "Eastpoint" in the chart is not a valid ecliptical point - it's just an approximation of where squares to MC occur in right ascension.

The ecliptical squares to MC do represent theoretical angles which, however, don't stand up on investigation. They are the 4th/10th house cusps in Morinus, called the upper and lower Midequator (ME), and represent drawing a great circle through the Eastpoint at right angles to the equator (instead of the ecliptic), and then seeing where this intersects the ecliptic. Though it sounds like a bit of a bastard calculation, all sorts of "intersections" are theoretically valid, so I took a few months a couple of years ago and tested it. Besides casual watching by transits to birth charts, I did an intensive look at a thousand or so mundane charts (which have proven our single best tool in assessing angular structures). I found that overall the effects, in those charts where they could be distinguished from other angularities (i.e., not simply "also on IC"), their apparent effect was random and often contradictory.

Which is a long way of saying: Relax, there's nothing to ecliptical squares to the EP.

This is really a quite lovely, benefic, even soft Solar Return. I'll give a full work-up in the next post. While relationship changes (evolutions) are very much in play, these rise from evolutions inside of you that are unfolding through the year that may (or may not) work out as circumstantial (event) changes.

IF natal relocated chart is considered it gets more interesting since the t. Uranus will be so close to rel. EP, and it also puts t. Venus square to that rel EP.

Contacts of SSR planets to local natal angles are indeed important. That would apply to the Uranus, but not the Venus (since squares to EP aren't valid). - I probably woukd make an exception in this case, because Venus' square to Uranus is valid: WI wouldn't take it as an angular Venus, I'd take it as an aspect to Uranus answering the question "And exactly what kind of transiting Uranus do we expect?"

Not only that, but this also shows the SSR ASC partile my n. Venus with n. Jup on the opposite side

Yes! That's the main feature of the chart. (That, and your Pluto somewhat widely square Asc.) That's the lovely expression I mentioned above. When I calculate the angularity orbs, I'll know for sure whether I can say it's the main feature of the chart. (That and transiting Jupiter being the only foreground planet in the Solar Return itself.)

Here is a breakdown of your next SSR for August 4, 2019, 1:36:14 AM BST, Edinburgh, Scotland. All angularities are calculated mundanely, including precessing your natal Moon to the time of the SSR to get its current right ascension for comparison to the EP. Notice that some very interesting (and pleasant) mundane aspects form among natal planet that are foreground in the SSR. OTOH the worst strong features in the chart are the two Moon aspects.

r Venus on Asc -6°04'
r Mercury on IC -5°56'
r Jupiter on Dsc -1°11'
r Moon on EP 1°58'
r Pluto sq. Asc 2°34'
r Saturn on Asc +3°24'
t Jupiter on Dsc +6°13'
r Neptune on Dsc +9°16'

t Moon-Neptune op. 3°48'
t Moon sq. r Saturn 3°55'

Aspects between foreground planets:
r Mercury-Venus sq. 0°08' in mundo
r Moon-Mercury sq. 0°19'
r Jupiter-Pluto sq. 0°50'
r Venus-Jupiter op. 1°26'
r Venus-Pluto sq. 2°16'
t Jupiter op. r Saturn 2°49' in mundo
t Jupiter conj. r Neptune 3°03' in mundo
r Jupiter-Saturn op. 4°35' in mundo
r Mercury-Jupiter sq. 4°45' in mundo

Partile aspects are always important, primarily as supplemental "fill in the gaps" details. Don;t incorporate these into the mix until you've assimilated the main features above, or you'll miss the tone, since these are easily the worst features of the SSR other than the Moon aspects above and would mislead you:
t Neptune sq. r Saturn 0°07'
t Saturn sq. r Uranus 0°10'
t Pluto sq. r Mars 0°24' in mundo
t Moon-Uranus sqq. 0°27'
t Mars sq. r Moon 0°57'
t Moon-Pluto tr. 0°38'

Something that might be important - I'm not sure how important - is that Saturn and Pluto both transit your natal MC, their midpoint ecliptically only 0°05' away. Each is 3° from your natal MC. Generally, transits to natal angles in the SSR act as transits, meaning that we want partile aspects, but that is not always as crisp as I'd like. In your case, though, when I go to check this mundanely I;m reminded that neither Saturn nor Pluto is anywhere near your MC mundanely - precession the SSR planets back to your birth and placing them in your natal chart (with the high-latitude conditions), both Saturn and Pluto are about 60° from your MC, since SSR Pluto is roughly at your natal 12th cusp (1°11' below it) and SSR Saturn is roughly at your 8th cusp (3°10' below it). So I think this is not important, but wanted to mention it in passing.

Meanwhile, as you noticed, transiting Uranus is near your Edinburgh natal EP. Precession SSR Uranus back to your birth date, Uranus' RA is 33.801° or 33°48' and your natal RA EP is 33°26', so SSR Uranus is 0°21' from natal EP. This is indeed an important contact!

Cutting through all of that, and trimming out the somewhat wider things, here are the highlights. Notice that while several natal planets are foreground, Jupiter is the only foreground planet in the SSR itself.

Foreground/angular planets:
r Venus on Asc -6°04'
r Mercury on IC -5°56'
r Jupiter on Dsc -1°11'
r Moon on EP 1°58'
r Pluto sq. Asc 2°34'
r Saturn on Asc +3°24'
t Jupiter on Dsc +6°13'

Moon aspects:
t Moon-Neptune op. 3°48'
t Moon sq. r Saturn 3°55'

Aspects between foreground planets:
r Mercury-Venus sq. 0°08' in mundo
r Moon-Mercury sq. 0°19'
r Jupiter-Pluto sq. 0°50'
r Venus-Jupiter op. 1°26'
r Venus-Pluto sq. 2°16'
t Jupiter op. r Saturn 2°49' in mundo

Other partile aspects (supplemental):
t Neptune sq. r Saturn 0°07'
t Saturn sq. r Uranus 0°10'
t Uranus conj. L EP 0°21'
t Pluto sq. r Mars 0°24' in mundo
t Moon-Uranus sqq. 0°27'
t Mars sq. r Moon 0°57'
t Moon-Pluto tr. 0°38'

Thanks Jim for the breakdown.
Yes I always notice the EP and make a note of the squares to it... but it feels like a little "phew" when you say :

Which is a long way of saying: Relax, there's nothing to ecliptical squares to the EP.

If I simplify even more what you've detailed above, I would say the main theme or features of the next SSR are maybe firstly what the SSR itself expresses and secondly the natal Venus-Jupiter=Pluto theme.

Yes, t. Jup is the only foreground planet measured in PV and it is a relief to see the Saturn has now moved out of orb with my natal angles, although it will still transit the MC at some point.

Since SSR Uranus is on rel. EP and natal EP like you mentioned ... and it is square Venus it sounds like it could be an affair.
Since n. Moon is on the SSR EP and it partile squares the SSR Mars, I would expect that kind of theme as well.

This SSR seems to express either a new love (affair) or renewed exciting love within existing relationship which simply seems impossible now.

Agreed. There is plenty of opportunity for fun and adventure.

Jim Eshelman wrote: Thu May 23, 2019 9:15 am There is plenty of opportunity for fun and adventure.

Promise!??

Lunar returns during the 2019-2020 SSR to Edinburgh* with partile aspects to angles or luminaries:

WOW, it starts right away around my birthday and partile aspects in each and every lunar return next SSR! If there is anything to lunar returns at all then this years seems to be very active. Uranus is really not gonna give me much of a break that year!

July 26th; Venus 0,40 MC, Uranus 0,07 rel. EP - Moon partile trine Pluto in mundo (T. Jup 2°from loc DSC).

Aug 22nd; Mars-Venus partile conjunction partile on DSC and Sun also close to DSC. Uranus partile rel. EP. T Jup 2° from rel. DSC.

Sep 19th; Pluto almost partile WP. Node partile Saturn. Uranus partile rel. EP. (

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March 28th; Sun 1,10° below ASC. Neptune within 2 above ASC. Natal Pluto partile SLR DSC and n. Jup partile SLR MC. Moon-Venus conjunction about 4° and SLR Venus is partile square n. Mars.

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Added on March 3rd 2020: Most of the LRs have taken place elsewhere. I leave the ones that actually did take place in Edinburgh. See here: https://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=3318

I never really experimented much with the timing within the solar returns other than just observing the SSR Moon's progression of 13 degrees during the year. In this SSR the Moon will take about 6 months to progress to square the SSR ASC and thereby come into my natal Venus-Jup=Pluto T square, which might denote a special time within this period.

Another method I've heard of is to progress the angles one degree for each day of the year (approx one year for a cycle) to see when the angles touch the planets. Have you experimented with that timing method?
This ecliptic SSR has my n. MC as the midpoint between the SSR Sat-Pluto conj. This would perhaps be amplified when the SSR DSC reaches that midpoint, or in about 20 days after my bday.

Since Uranus is on the EP and is actually active in almost all the lunar returns, there seems to be an Uranus theme running throughout the year. But with this method it might be amplified when the MC reaches that point as well as the DSC. The MC comes to Uranus in about 80 days, around Oct 20th and then the DSC in about 128 days, around Dec 10th.

This method would give approx 40-45 days until the ASC reaches the Venus-Sun conj.

Ebertin about the MC as the midpoint between the SSR Sat-Pluto conj:

The desire to rise from difficult circumstances through the application of tenacity and endurance, severity, one-sidedness, self-sacrifice. An ascetic person, a magician or adept. -Separation. (Flight).

I will keep you posted.

I guess recent turn of events gives me a totally new perspective on this upcoming SSR.
Life takes sudden turns sometimes - especially when Uranus acting on your angles.
Uranus moved into a partile conj to my rel. EP yesterday and the period of change started.

So it's just over four weeks now until this SSR starts.

Would you say the wrapping up period of the current SSR would be only in the last week of it?
The SLR in the end of July seems to wrap up the year pretty nicely with that partile angular Venus, plus the Uranus and Jupiter. Now I'm kinda in the waiting phase ... looking forward to get rid of this heavy Saturn-Pluto energy and hopefully into some lighter times ahead. I hope Jim is right about the Sat-Pluto not being an issue next year since they are not really close to my n. MC mundanely. I guess I will find out in the upcoming months. Should be a pretty good year if they are not on angle.

Just took a look at the solar eclipse chart from yesterday. Puts the Moon-Sun in my 1st, just below n. ASC. Also has Venus on my Ven-Jup, but the Mar-Mer is on my rel. IC. I wonder if this solar eclipse chart will have an effect. At least the Moon-Sun are not afflicted.

Mop-up is usually the last 20% of the year, roughly: a little overctwo months.

I'm reminded that neither Saturn nor Pluto is anywhere near your MC mundanely - precession the SSR planets back to your birth and placing them in your natal chart (with the high-latitude conditions), both Saturn and Pluto are about 60° from your MC

So are you pretty sure this is how to look at this? That the ecliptical aspect should be ignored?

Arena, FWIW, your 2019 SSR Moon (very important with Jim's SSR teachings) will secondary progress in 5-6 months to a partile cnj of your natal Pluto which forms a T-square with your natal Venus-Jupiter, and we see your natal Venus-Jupiter 180 falling on the horizon of your 2019 SSR. IMO, this SSR progressed SSR Moon to your natal Pluto will probably time some type of major new start for your life, with high % it will be a benefic start . As I have been saying, the heavens need to move and get t-Saturn away from your natal MC before you will feel the heaviness of Saturn on your natal MC lifting, which will begin after this SSR progressed Moon cnj to your natal Pluto in a few months. Remember for all the possible various manifestations for a SSR, we have to allow a full solar year.

Arena wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:49 am

I'm reminded that neither Saturn nor Pluto is anywhere near your MC mundanely - precession the SSR planets back to your birth and placing them in your natal chart (with the high-latitude conditions), both Saturn and Pluto are about 60° from your MC

So are you pretty sure this is how to look at this? That the ecliptical aspect should be ignored?

There are two separate things. (I forget what this statement was about, so I'll describe both.)

The "rules" are different for (1) the SSR itself and (2) transits to the SSR. I probably never would have caught this were it not for the mundane charts (ingresses) - I went into the ingress study wanting to see whether undo vs. eclipto mattered for angularity and suspecting it would be "mundo for everything." (I was wrong.) What I learned that keeps confirming itself:

1. Within a given chart (the chart itself: natal, return, ingress), angularity is taken mundanely. (Think of it as "how far is the planet really from the horizon, etc.?")

2. Once the chart has set up, all transits to its angles (including its quotidian angles) are taken ecliptically.

As a refinement, since we've had the tools to check over the last couple of years, it has also become clearer that the above applies in return charts not just with the return planets but with the natal planets also.

These are two separate processes. A return chart needs to be read as a thing unto itself to make its basic statement of "this is what the year / month / fortnight is like." Separately, it is subject to transits for the duration of the transits. As I just told Bob Oz this morning, his next SSR doesn't have an angular Saturn, but Saturn does transit its angles for part of the year. (But only part of it.)

Jim wrote:

As a refinement, since we've had the tools to check over the last couple of years, it has also become clearer that the above applies in return charts not just with the return planets but with the natal planets also.

Jim, I can't get in the good habit of checking the actual mundo placements of natal planets on return chart angles. I am curious, at Arena's high latitude, what are the orbs for her natal Venus-Jupiter on her SSR Horizon?

I'm on my way out the door, Steve. There's a thread around here somewhere I haven't been able to find where I did a complete break-out of Arena's no SSR. I'll calculate everything again if I need to but perhaps she remembers where that was?

Foreground/angular planets:
r Venus on Asc -6°04'
r Mercury on IC -5°56'
r Jupiter on Dsc -1°11'
r Moon on EP 1°58'
r Pluto sq. Asc 2°34'
r Saturn on Asc +3°24'
t Jupiter on Dsc +6°13'

The full breakdown by Jim:
https://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=20 ... 512#p24032

SteveS wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:45 pm Arena, FWIW, your 2019 SSR Moon (very important with Jim's SSR teachings) will secondary progress in 5-6 months to a partile cnj of your natal Pluto which forms a T-square with your natal Venus-Jupiter, and we see your natal Venus-Jupiter 180 falling on the horizon of your 2019 SSR. IMO, this SSR progressed SSR Moon to your natal Pluto will probably time some type of major new start for your life, with high % it will be a benefic start . *As I have been saying, the heavens need to move and get t-Saturn away from your natal MC before you will feel the heaviness of Saturn on your natal MC lifting, which will begin after this SSR progressed Moon cnj to your natal Pluto in a few months. Remember for all the possible various manifestations for a SSR, we have to allow a full solar year.

Hey again Steve
Was just looking into the progressing SSR Moon. Not sure I have the right progression rate for the SSR, but it is about now that the SSR Moon has already progressed to square n. Venus&Jupiter and is now conjunct n. Pluto.
I believe you're right about this timing - that it will mark an even more serious/decided period within this new relationship that has been forming since the end of August. I hope the conjunction with n. Pluto does not mark some kind of separation/ending - but rather a more profound and deeper love connection since n. Pluto is in that T-square with Venus-Jupiter.

*Bold, italic and underlined is my doing

I better make a note about a few more things that I said myself above:

I never really experimented much with the timing within the solar returns other than just observing the SSR Moon's progression of 13 degrees during the year. In this SSR the Moon will take about 6 months to progress to square the SSR ASC and thereby come into my natal Venus-Jup=Pluto T square, which might denote a special time within this period.

Same as Steve noted above

Another method I've heard of is to progress the angles one degree for each day of the year (approx one year for a cycle) to see when the angles touch the planets. Have you experimented with that timing method?
This ecliptic SSR has my n. MC as the midpoint between the SSR Sat-Pluto conj. This would perhaps be amplified when the SSR DSC reaches that midpoint, or in about 20 days after my bday.

Ebertin about the MC as the midpoint between the SSR Sat-Pluto conj:

The desire to rise from difficult circumstances through the application of tenacity and endurance, severity, one-sidedness, self-sacrifice. An ascetic person, a magician or adept. -Separation. (Flight).

This is the approximate timing for my own decision of "flight". I made the decision to leave the house/my home and my kids with my ex around the middle of August 2019.

Adding Jim's comment as well:

Something that might be important - I'm not sure how important - is that Saturn and Pluto both transit your natal MC, their midpoint ecliptically only 0°05' away. Each is 3° from your natal MC. Generally, transits to natal angles in the SSR act as transits, meaning that we want partile aspects, but that is not always as crisp as I'd like.

Since Uranus is on the EP and is actually active in almost all the lunar returns, there seems to be an Uranus theme running throughout the year. But with this method it might be amplified when the MC reaches that point as well as the DSC. The MC comes to Uranus in about 80 days, around Oct 20th and then the DSC in about 128 days, around Dec 10th.

This method does not give the exact travel dates or something new to happen. First trip was to Iceland on August 29th, then to Edinburgh on Sept 19th, to Spain on Oct 4th and back to Iceland on Oct 29th. Trip to Costa Rica started Jan 6th 2020.

Adding Jim's comment about Uranus conjunct EP:
Meanwhile, as you noticed, transiting Uranus is near your Edinburgh natal EP. Precession SSR Uranus back to your birth date, Uranus' RA is 33.801° or 33°48' and your natal RA EP is 33°26', so SSR Uranus is 0°21' from natal EP. This is indeed an important contact!

This method would give approx 40-45 days until the ASC reaches the Venus-Sun conj.
I met my new love on August 30th and we dated and connected during the month of September until I left for Edinburgh on the 19th

Arena wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:29 am Was just looking into the progressing SSR Moon. Not sure I have the right progression rate for the SSR, but it is about now that the SSR Moon has already progressed to square n. Venus&Jupiter and is now conjunct n. Pluto.

Standard secondary progressed rate. Exact dates for your SQ (Solar Quotidian) Moon aspects are as follows (each in 1° about one month before and after these dates).

January 8 - sq r Venus
February 13 - sq r Jupiter
March 5 - conj. r Pluto

PSSR rates, if valid, are about 20% less time after your birthday (i.e., slightly earlier).

Jim Eshelman wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:56 am

Arena wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:29 am Was just looking into the progressing SSR Moon. Not sure I have the right progression rate for the SSR, but it is about now that the SSR Moon has already progressed to square n. Venus&Jupiter and is now conjunct n. Pluto.

Standard secondary progressed rate. Exact dates for your SQ (Solar Quotidian) Moon aspects are as follows (each in 1° about one month before and after these dates).

January 8 - sq r Venus
February 13 - sq r Jupiter
March 5 - conj. r Pluto

PSSR rates, if valid, are about 20% less time after your birthday (i.e., slightly earlier).

This marks the period when I left for CR and found that I didn't really want to be away from my new love - so I believe the connection grew even stronger with the short 3 week separation and him coming over to visit me in CR. We both knew by then that we want to be together and we promised each other that we would never again be separated any more than a week at a time. I guess I have to wait and see if the conjunction with n. Pluto will give some more insights.

I've been looking for signs of Mars during this SSR or in other ways since I must admit that my year since meeting a new love has been very much coloured with LOTS and LOTS of sex, talking about sex, trying new things in sex and even some things that probably would be considered kinky by most people and might be considered very Martian (sometimes rough) or even some Mars-Plutoness.

I can see that I noted the Sun-Mars=IC midpoint:

SSR IC is on the midpoint between Sun and Mars

Ebertin says about the Sun-Mars=MC midpoint:

"Union with the husband", also "marriage".

The Sun-Venus aspect is also about physical love and love-union

I can see that Jim also noted important Mars aspects in the SSR.

t Pluto sq. r Mars 0°24' in mundo
t Mars sq. r Moon 0°57'

I also want to make a note of the solar arcs in here since they are now showing Moon, Mars and Neptune on the angles.
d. Moon is now almost exact on n. ASC
d. ASC is now nearing a partile conj to n. Mars
d. Nep is still partile conj n. MC (I really do not feel like working at all, I hate the thought of having to go back to some kind of job - I just want to keep myself in a dreamworld with my loved one).

I guess the sexual and emotional passion is not surprising with these solar arcs.

The t. Mars has also been travelling around the composite MC, with some sexual experiments happening on Feb 14th-15th when t. Mars was conj rel. composite MC.

Reminds me of Marvin Gaye's great song: "Lets Get It On"