Solunars by Aldebaran Sidereal Academy

SteveS wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:38 pm Jim, since this is a Sidereal Astrology forum, I have been meaning to ask your permission to open-up a thread on Ebertin's Cosmobiology related to my experiences with Cosmobiology in the late 70's and with a Cosmobiologist I met at a Las Vegas seminar in 1988---Eleonora A. Kimmel and her book “Fundamentals of Cosmobiology.” By no means am I an expert in Cosmobiology, but I do believe in my 38 years of studying astrology, techniques of Sidereal Astrology and Cosmobiology are the two best forecasting systems in the field of Astrology. Is "Many Things" OK for me to continue the subject topic of Cosmobiology?

BTW, I knew Eleanor fairly well.

She was quite a devoted and able astrologer and passionate about bringing Ebertin's work to America.

Ebertin knew his Cosmobiology was formidable. He told me personally, within the proper context, that he felt the Cosmobiological (Solar Arcs and midpoint) system would take over the astrology world. At the end of his life, sadly, he saw the advance of computers and their accomplishment of all the technical work at the speed of light; his beautiful wheels (dials) and graphic ephemerides were obsolete. Ebertin's extraordinary work in his Combination of Stellar Influences was understandably tainted with WW11 pessimism.

By all means open a thread on some aspect(s) of Cosmobiology that interest you.

Yes, I still have my copy of Fundamentals in storage somewhere. I saw it in recent months going through storage boxes.

The one point I would make is that Cosmobiology and Sidereal astrology have a great deal in common. Philosophically, they both are driven by empiricism and founded on a fundamentally psychological (rather than thingish and fortune-telling) approach.

In terms of the main components of a chart, Cosmobiology is the only system I know that places the same primary attention on angles and luminaries

The whole midpoint structure element is unique to Cosmo (and Uranian). However, Matthew and I (among others) felt it was not at all inconsistent with anything in Sidereal astrology, but a further layer. To be consistent with the root philosophy and historic approach of Sidereal astrology, midpoints have to be managed in an efficient way that doesn't leave the door open to finding anything and everything one might want in them - the application of discipline.

Ebertin's tools are of enormous value for Siderealists. I still use the 90° in Solar Fire routinely for all sorts of things.

SteveS wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:09 am

Jim wrote:Ebertin's tools are of enormous value for Siderealists. I still use the 90° in Solar Fire routinely for all sorts of things.

Indeed Jim. I have not routinely used SF 90* because I don't understand with the depth you understand, but I am picking up more usage with your post about its use for you.

But it's useful for so many things without getting into the subtleties.

For one thing, I remember you tending to miss squares to angles, but they pop out at a glance on the 90° dial so I always flip to the dial when running a series of mundane charts in particular. 

SteveS wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:59 pm

For one thing, I remember you tending to miss squares to angles, but they pop out at a glance on the 90° dial so I always flip to the dial when running a series of mundane charts in particular. 

Yes, I do tend to miss those squares to the angles, but I think I am getting better . When you have time, offer us some detailed instruction for seeing what you see with mundane charts and the 90* dial.

Ebertin's 90* Dial was simply ingenious for its day/age. Comobiology did not breach the USA until the early 70's. If Fagan/Bradley had access to this ingenious mechanical instrument in their time, it would have put a smile on their face. When Eleanor demonstrated its use to me in 1988, I immediately saw the brilliance of it quickly allowing the eyes to see the 0,90,180—and 45,135.

The COSMIC STRUCTURE PATTERN is the result of calculation that determines those midpoints which are the foundation of the natal chart. The entire Structure Pattern can be compiled on a single page, thus simplifying the task of the basic natal delineation. From the Structure Pattern one can refer, at a glance, to a particularly outstanding characteristic of an individual and know that the characteristic is an inherent part of the individual. It is very important that the student realize, at this point, that everyone has 78 midpoints, but no two people have the same structure pattern involving the same midpoints. Page 25, FOC.

Natal Midpoints are activated when other stellar bodies “contact” our natal midpoints through transit or progressions (including Solar Arcs). “Contact” is made when a stellar body comes to lie in the same degree as the midpoint. When this happens, an activation of the other bodies involved occurs along the midpoint axis. Page 20, FOC

Suddenness, revolution, change.

Probable Manifestation: The stage of rearranging one's environment, of changing one's residence. Upsetting and exciting experiences, sudden incidents; an accident.

In Cosmobiology, a direct midpoint is an important configuration.

An emotionally depressing environment...

A real throne, this. Among its paramount keywords is "removal."

Disappointments in love...

Obstructed manifestation of vitality, pessimism, weakness. Difficulties or obstacles in vocation or profession, defeat in a fight or contest, separation (probably from office of Presidency).

Lance wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:09 am Steve, would you care to give me Cosmobiology in a nutshell. Some of us are newbs.

Jim Eshelman wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:27 am (I could show you in less than a minute in person, with a dial in hand; it's harder to do by description. Until you've walked someone through their fundamental character and every major detail of their lives with one chart on one sheet of paper and spinning a dial forward and back, you don't know what a speed rush from astrological analysis is like! <g>)

Steve, would you care to give me Cosmobiology in a nutshell. Some of us are newbs.

COSI is en route at the moment.

Solar Fire. I think it’s version 9.

What is Cosmobiology?

Cosmobiology is a scientific discipline concerned with the possible correlation between cosmos and organic life and the effects of cosmic rhythms and stellar motion on man, with all his potentials and dispositions, his character and the possible turns of fate. It also researches these correlations and effects as mirrored by the earth's plant and animal life as a whole. In this endeavor cosmobiology utilizes modern-day methods of scientific research, such as statistics, analysis and computer programming. It is of prime importance, however, in view of the scientific effort expended, not to overlook the macrocosmic and microcosmic interrelations incapable of measurement. The word cosmobiology was coined by the Austrian physician Dr. Feerhow and later was used by the Swiss statistician K.E. Krafft to designate that branch of astrology working on scientific foundations and keyed to the natural sciences. Cosmobiology has, through the work of the author of this book, become increasingly well-known within the last forty years for those aspects marking it off from ancient astrology. Despite the great diagnostic value of cosmobiology in the fields of characterology and psychology, one should not forget that the individual's natal constellation can only be seen and properly interpreted in connection with his life history (medical history, personal home, brothers and sisters, milieu, upbringing, the time and circumstances in which he lives, religion, manners and morals, environment, etc.). Those who are concerned with counseling and want to give a genuine aid to those seeking advice will on the one hand find themselves unable to dispense with the cosmobiological and cosmopsychological diagnostic once they have become acquainted with its methods; on the other hand, they will find that well-grounded psychological and medical knowledge is essential for the correct evaluation and interpretation of the relevancy of all the individual factors in a natal chart.

Self-knowledge Through Cosmobiology

The interpretations of certain planetary constellations presented in this book are intended to provide an insight into the disposition, capabilities, aspects of character and possibilities of fate of the individual. In this respect, they aid in the analysis of the human being in psychological, medical and sociological terms. The reader is shown how he can combine the various elements of the natal chart to form a meaningful picture of himself. The 'Combination of Stellar Influences'-- Reinhold Ebertin, Aalen, February 1972.

Actually, I'd also have to get a new set of disks. Mine are either lost in storage (the 90°, that is) or plain lost. I searched on line today and can't find anybody anywhere that still sells the metal disks or equivalents (like that wonderful board with the transparent plastic dial that Ebertin created).

SteveS wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:46 pm ...[ I ] believe there are certain sight functions with the 90 degree dial that today's astrological software will not view with the 90 degree dial, at least as far as I know. For example: Eleonora/Ebertin would Solar Arc certain midpoints of a Natal Chart to the personal points, lights/angles of a chart when they saw an important standard Solar Arc maturing; whereas, I don't believe Solar Fire will handle this function.

Midpoint Types:

Midpoint Trees.
This option calculates a list of midpoints (half sums) made to each planet in turn.
For example, halfsums and planets aspecting the Sun, then half sums and planets aspecting the Moon, etc. (This function also identifies Direct Midpoints, the post potent type midpoints in a natal chart.

A/B Sorted by Planet.
This option calculates a list of closer half sums sorted by planet sequence.
A half sum is the halfway point between two planets or mathematical points.
Commonly it is considered to be the shortest arc.
Mathematically, it is the longitude of 1st planet A added to the longitude of the 2nd planet B, and the result divided by two.
The Orb drop-down list box is hidden in this option as it is not applicable.

A/B Sorted by Degree.
This option calculates a list of closer half sums sorted by degree position.
The Orb drop-down list box is hidden in this option as it is not applicable.

A/B Sorted by 45 degree CFM.
This option calculates a list of harmonic 8 (45 degree multiples) half sums sorted into Cardinal, Fixed and Mutable.
This is very useful list, as described in the book 'Working with Astrology'.
The Modulus and Orb drop-down list boxes are hidden in this option as they are not applicable.

X=A/B Sorted by X.
This option calculates a list of occupied midpoints.
The criteria for testing an occupied midpoint is if planet X makes an aspect (as defined by the selected modulus) to the nearer half sum to planet A and planet B, and the aspect is within orb (as defined by the selected aspect file) then the conditions for the midpoint being included in the list have been met. In other words, the nearer half sum A/B is occupied by planet X. The list of midpoints is sorted by planet X sequence.

X=A/B Sorted by A/B.
This option calculates a list of occupied midpoints.
The midpoints are sorted by planetary sequence A/B.

X=A/B Sorted by Orb.
This option calculates a list of occupied midpoints.
The midpoints are sorted by smallest Orb to largest Orb.

A/B=C/D Sorted by A/B.
This option calculates a list of occupied midpoints.
Half sum A/B makes an aspect to half sum C/D.

A/B=C/D Sorted by Orb.
This option calculates a list of occupied midpoints.
Half sum A/B makes an aspect to half sum C/D.


Coordinate Systems.

Ecliptic System
Is linked to the Earth's orbit around the Sun, which forms a great circle called the ecliptic.
This circle is divided into 360 degrees of longitude (30 degree per sign).
Celestial Longitude is measured East from the Vernal Point.

Equatorial System
Is linked to the Earth's rotation on its axis, which forms a great circle called the celestial equator.
This circle is divided into 360 degrees of Right Ascension (or 24 hours of sidereal time).
Right Ascension is measured East from the Vernal Point.

Horizon System
Is based on the great circle called the rational horizon, parallel to the visible horizon, and its plane passes through the centre of the Earth, dividing the celestial sphere into two hemispheres, upper and lower.
This circle is divided into 360 degrees of Azimuth.
Azimuth is normally measured clockwise from the North Point.

Prime Vertical System.
Is based on the great circle called the Prime Vertical, which lies at right angles to the Meridian, passes through the East and West points on the horizon, and the Zenith and Nadir of the place.
This circle is divided into 360 degrees of Longitude, measured East from the Ascendant or the Midheaven.

Rationalized Semi-Arc System.
This system assigns 0 to 90 degrees to the diurnal semi-arc Ascendant to MC, 90 - 180 degrees to the diurnal semi-arc MC to Descendant, 180 - 270 to the nocturnal semi-arc Descendant to IC, and 270 - 360 degrees to the nocturnal semi-arc IC to Ascendant.

Galactic Longitude System.
Galactic longitude is measured along the plane of the galaxy from the direction of the centre of the galaxy as seen from Earth.

Invariable Plane System.
This plane is defined by the masses and orbits of all the planets in the solar system.

References:
'Encyclopedia of Astrology' by Nicholas de Vore.
'Larousse Encyclopedia of Astrology' by Brau, Weaver and Edmands.
'Astronomy for Astrologers' by John Filbey and Peter Filbey.
'Working with Astrology' by Michael Harding and Charles Harvey.
'The Combination of Stellar Influences' by Reinhold Ebertin.
'Midpoints: Unleashing the Power of the Planets' by Michael Munkasey.
'Rules for Planetary-Pictures' by Witte-Verlag.

SteveS wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:48 pm Jim, what in this universe is an 'invariable plane position?' Can it be explained where we non-mathematicians can understand?

Emotional depressions...emotional inhibitions...fear, feelings of inferiority...

The application of the stellar influences here is transposed; that is, instead of transiting planets touching off the natal midpoints, the transiting midpoints are activating the natal planets. The results of interpretation of these transits are astounding.

A candidate for public office can hardly expect election if Moon-Jupiter configurations are lacking in his return charts.

For important life events, the effects of individual natal midpoints will be seen most clearly when they are set-- off by dynamic factors such as transits, solar arc directions, or progressions. Robert Hand.

Robert Hand: Why Use Midpoints?
Midpoints have a plausible theoretical basis in harmonics, but in a much more complex way than aspects. The explanation is beyond the scope of this book, (Horoscope Symbols); suffice it to say that midpoints work. I use midpoints because they often give information that would not otherwise be available in the chart. Without them, I have seen important characteristics of a person and events in a life completely overlooked.

The midpoint AS/MC should always be examined as this frequently has a bearing on the whole personality and because directions over this point may result in a change of life and circumstances.

A very important point in the horoscope. Points on this axis may exert a general influence on the chart almost as if they were conjunct the Ascendant, Descendant, Midheaven or Imum Coeli except that the energy is not as strong.

The Optimist. Success

I completely disagree on the A/M midpoint. I dismiss it (meaning direct contact to it) completely.

Steve, your example of solar arc to your Neptune would count from the perspective of the planet regardless of whether it was on a midpoint, yes?

Steve, do you consider yourself a fundamentally Neptunian person (by your character)? That would be the conclusion to draw from your Ne = A/M if we gave the A/M midpoint the importance suggested in the quotes above.

SteveS wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:38 am

Steve, your example of solar arc to your Neptune would count from the perspective of the planet regardless of whether it was on a midpoint, yes?

Maybe, but I don't see it in this context. I see it in the context of my Natal Neptune is placed on sensitive/strength point of my scope.

In my mind, if we allow midpoints between two planets to offer valid symbolic meanings as a strength point in a horoscope, which Cosmobiology has proven--- why not allow the same for the AS/MC midpoint??

Remember you also have Neptune 0°13' from the Northpoint. (Ah, I now see you mentioned that later on.) Aside from also being the strongest aspect to your Moon.

I place this observed behavior ahead of any theory on the matter,

Are you saying that by that date in 1989 you achieved your soul purpose for this life?

Wouldnt the urge/need that this Neptunian midpoint has continue through out you whole incarnation?

It reads to me that you feel that you mastered/achieved/recognized the potentialy of this cosmic expression.

Do you feel like this midpoint no longer has a bearing or any manifestion in your life?

The common destiny of a large mass of people. The urge to seek contacts or associations with many people. The wish to become a public figure or to exercise an influence upon other people. Unions or associations brought about by the particular circumstances of one's destiny. Crowds or large groups of people, mass meetings. The beginning of new associations which may may be important with regards to one's future.

The loss of other people's sympathy through the demonstration of self-admiration and vanity.

Revolution, the collapse of the old order of things, the construction of the new.

An abundance or richness of feeling or emotional expression...

Difficulties..

The pursuit of aspirations...

I am glad that you found personal success and happiness through this manifestation.
In COSI the notes given for the Principle of this midpoint refer to the realtionship between the ego (higher self) and the personality (lower self) and truthfully reading the delinations for having Neptune there do not sound at all like your personal expierence....

Connections between the Asc and the MC when brought out by progressions (solar arcs) or transits indicate important periods of life which can be characterized and coloured only through the addition and incorporation of other factors.

I do have a very strong Neptune myself and love movies but truthfully I dont like much of what is being programmed and run in the theatre...

I just finished reading a marvelous book called _The Invention of Hugo Cabret_ which is a childs book that fantasties about the miraculous life of Georges Melies whom I am sure you are familiar with. His early visionary work in films took the motion picture world out of filming steam engines and brought fantasty to the world in almost a surreal magical way that IMO was only trumped by the discovery of Fractals and computer programing that gave movies the ability to make Lord of the Rings possible.