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Career Advice

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:58 pm
by Hannah
Hi there! :D

I'm currently at a crossroads and could use some advice. I am 21 and have not sincerely put my foot in the door of any potential career options. Though, there is a theme in my life to gravitate towards the arts in some form or another. I have jumped around several community colleges, all in which I have majored in visual arts. I paint, compose my own music, write, act, and hoop dance.... but I just don't know how I can do this for a living. It's the age-old conundrum for artists... So, I have been thinking about other areas in which I am interested, death midwifery being one of them. It is a profession that resonates in my heart, and I find myself growing passionate when I think about it. But it would require me to put art on the side while I pursue school and a career. Which I am not sure if the time is right for that quite yet.

Is there anything in my chart that might reveal a better suited career path for me to pursue at the moment?

December 27, 1997
12:38 PM PCT
Lancaster, Ca

Re: Career Advice

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:09 am
by Veronica
Hiya!

You asked if there was anything in your chart that would be a better career path then "death midwifery"?

Imo without even looking at your chart
Concidering the state of western allopathic medical tradition and its barbaric pracices towards the birthing and dying processes......if you think you have the heart for it then you would be well suited for it and no doubt it would be rewarding on all levels.
There is a dire need in the world for those services.

Re: Career Advice

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:37 pm
by Mike V
Hi Hannah :)

I am admittedly not very good with astrological career advice - or with regular career advice, for that matter. However, our charts have a few things in common, so I wonder if some of the ideas that I found valuable for me may have some value for you too.

What really helped me the most was spending a lot of time meditating on my chart and the various strengths and weaknesses in it, and considering roles almost as archetypes. Tons of fruit came from this.

As a Sag, I have found that being in positions where I can garner some kind of respect is important to me; I really enjoy cultivating expertise in some area and being able to relay that to others, whether via direct training, offering advisement/consulting, etc - something that helps advance the group I'm a part of. The two ideas go hand in hand for me.
Your Sag Sun is also tightly octile Jupiter, so you've definitely got the good intentions and the inclination to be a benediction to others, as well as a tendency to grow and blossom in situations where you're held in high regard. I think these themes, or other articulations of them, are surely important, and I could definitely see these being fulfilled in death midwifery.
I don't know if this applies to you in this way, but in myself, I know that I would rather make a good amount of money, if I can help it. Jupiter is kingly or queenly. If the lifestyles made possible by high income are something that you feel is important to you, then it's a relevant factor to consider. Just from knowing you, you don't seem like a person who is particularly concerned with this - but I'm just mentioning it astrologically as a Jupiter thing.

If your Moon-Mercury conjunction (though it's a bit wide) is anything like my Virgo Moon, then you're naturally drawn to detail work. That's where I usually thrive. I prefer that over very high-level planning or management that is removed from "the frontlines," generally.

Moon-Saturn aspects definitely bestow an urge towards self-sacrifice in the name of other-service, and work ethic tending to reflect that. I was considering psychology or social work while I was in college, and ended up being a psych minor (and still toy with the idea of going back to school for that). I seem to recall you mentioning psychology previously - or am I mis-remembering that?
Moon-Saturn also needs control over situations. The roles I seem to gravitate toward allow me a high degree of control, and in doing so allow me to accomplish important things for the benefit of others. It's sort of - "listen, I got this. Don't worry about it." I definitely have a thing of needing to "save people." I feel most motivated when I feel like I'm saving the day for someone - which inevitably involves control (otherwise, someone else would've just done it already).
Your Moon-Saturn trine is pretty close, too, at 0*25', so these themes are in there somewhere (although I suspect your control-seeking is much more mellow, since you have a soft aspect). I think finding the main ways that this aspect manifests for you will go a long way towards helping you identify roles that you thrive in, but you'll certainly have a strong work ethic no matter where you end up. That will take you far.

I've also got the close Moon-Neptune thing going on. For me, it's been a challenge to keep my sensitivity under control. Roles where emotion is acceptable are better for me. While the careers I've been in aren't directly related to that - at all - I make sure that I end up in roles where it's okay for the human emotional element to be present.
If you go in a direction where the emotional or artistic element is a key feature, you would be able to really exercise this aspect to powerful effect, I think. Having Neptune foreground (though widely) emphasizes this even more so. You can create a reality for others.

Besides that, your chart looks to me like you're averse to confrontational roles - at least in the sense of human confrontation (as opposed to idea confrontation). If that's true, I think that's important to recognize and keep in mind. You'd probably have much less fun in anything like sales, law, policing, security, highly competitive business ventures, or other professions that involve that type of thing.

Overall, death midwifery really sounds like it checks a lot of these types of boxes for you - including, I think, the Scorpio Moon box, in the surgical sense of "blood doesn't scare me." It seems like a really solid direction to explore. On a personal level, I think you'd be really great at it, too.

Re: Career Advice

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:26 am
by Hannah
Veronica wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:09 am There is a dire need in the world for those services.
Yes, and perhaps that is one of the reasons why doula work interests me... There are plenty of artists doing cool stuff out there, and not many people working with death. Something about that is very motivating, that there is more to be discovered about doula work... and that I could very well make change in other people's lives in a good way, and potentially in the world's relationship to life and death. And maybe art could be a part of this as well.

Re: Career Advice

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:36 am
by Veronica
Midwifery and Doulas and Hospice all could use great publicity ti let people know its actually even an option. Many people dont know they have those sorts of options. You could blend your two passions of visual arts and healthcare and not have to give euther up.

Re: Career Advice

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:16 pm
by Hannah
@Mike, thank you so much for your response. Your reflections are insightful and very helpful! :)

I just spent the last hour responding to you and ended up losing it all... so, just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate your thoughts and that I am currently in progress of processing it and doing some reflection of my own.

Re: Career Advice

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:17 pm
by Hannah
Veronica wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:36 am Midwifery and Doulas and Hospice all could use great publicity ti let people know its actually even an option. Many people dont know they have those sorts of options. You could blend your two passions of visual arts and healthcare and not have to give euther up.
That is an excellent idea! :D

Re: Career Advice

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:39 am
by Mike V
Hannah wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:16 pm @Mike, thank you so much for your response. Your reflections are insightful and very helpful! :)

I just spent the last hour responding to you and ended up losing it all... so, just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate your thoughts and that I am currently in progress of processing it and doing some reflection of my own.
I'm so glad it was useful :)

I think there really needs to be some kind of warning when we're about to lose our work lol. I just use Word or an equivalent now to periodically save work as I type, if it's a long response.

But if you gained anything yourself from the act of typing it out, then that's the important part :)

Re: Career Advice

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:45 pm
by Hannah
That is a good idea, writing it in another place. I think I'll do that from now one.

Also, I did it. I enrolled in the program I had my eye on for doula work. Starting in September. :)

Re: Career Advice

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:31 am
by Veronica
Yea! Congratulations!! Thats wonderful to hear.

Re: Career Advice

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:27 pm
by UmeFlower
I really admire the pathway that you're exploring, Hannah. I hope it's going well!!

Re: Career Advice

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:41 pm
by UmeFlower
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Re: Career Advice

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:29 pm
by Jim Eshelman
UmeFlower, it's better if you start your own thread, but to mention a bit...

With Taurus-Pisces, the art direction is a natural (among others).

What you haven't touched on directly is your Saturn-Neptune conjunction exact and on Descendant and square your Moon. This is a huge art of you. We can dig into this a lot more. It can have an artistic expression also, but its way bigger than that.

FWIW my wife is born May 30, so I like your Sun degree :)