Solunars by Aldebaran Sidereal Academy

I keep thinking I've worked this up, and then I can't find it... so maybe I didn't. I want to have the full breakout of next year's Washington, DC Capsolar on hand.

The world as a whole will be dealing with the partile Saturn-Pluto conjunction (0°15' in eclipto), and Washington is one of the places it hits. However, Uranus is our primary planet.

Uranus on EP 1°24'
Mercury on MC 3°03'
Sun on MC 4°14'
Saturn on MC 8°00'
Pluto on MC 8°25'

-- Saturn-Pluto conj. 0°15'
-- Saturn-Uranus sq. 1°30' in mundo
-- Sun-Saturn conj. 1°53'
-- Uranus-Pluto sq. 1°55' in mundo
-- Sun-Pluto conj. 2°08'
-- Sun-Uranus sq. 2°15' in mundo
-- Sun-Mercury conj. 3°14'
-- -- -- Sun/Mercury on MC 0°36'



CapQ Moon squares ingress and progressed Jupiter August 31 and September 4. (By the PSSI rate, these are July 16-19.)

Key transits to it for the year are:

Sat Cnj MC Feb 20 2020
Jup Cnj MC Tr-Re May 8 2020 5:11a EDT (X)
-- Jup SR 0°03' from MC May 14 2020
Jup Cnj MC May 20 2020
Sat Cnj MC Aug 10 2020
-- Sa SD 1°51' from MC Sep 29 2020
Sat Cnj MC Nov 16 2020
Jup Cnj MC Dec 6 2020

Mar Sqr Capsolar Moon Feb 17 2020
Mar Sqr CapQ Moon Feb 19 2020
Mar Cnj MC Mar 26 2020
Mar Sqr Asc Apr 21 2020
Mar Opp Capsolar Moon Jun 29 2020
Mar Opp CapQ Moon Jul 11 2020
Mar Sqr MC Aug 29 2020
-- Mar SR 0°07' sq s Mercury Sep 9 2020
Mar Sqr MC Sep 21 2020
Mar Sqr MC Dec 31 2020

NOTE: The 2020 Cansolar is dormant; therefore, the Arisolar will cover mid-April to mid-October, the entire presidential campaign period except the last three weeks. That Arisolar has Mars exactly on MC in Capricorn square Venus even more exactly rising in Taurus.

I guess we can't relocate the US government for the ingress, huh.

Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:17 pm I guess we can't relocate the US government for the ingress, huh.

While I'm at it, I'll work up all the Bridge zones for 2020 (as of the date of the Capsolar). This will be tedious.

Uranus (Cp EP) Jan 15 to Jan 31
Uranus (Cp EP) Saturn (Cp MC) Feb 1 to Feb 21
Saturn (Cp MC) Feb 22 to Mar 11
-- CanQ Sun-Pluto op. ENDS March 29
Jupiter (Cp MC) Apr 7 to Jun 20
Saturn (Cp MC) Jul 13 to Aug 5
Saturn (Cp MC) Jupiter (CapQ Moon) Aug 6 to Sep 30
Saturn (Cp MC) Oct 1 to Nov 24
Saturn (Cp MC) Jupiter (Cp MC) Nov 25 to Dec 9
Jupiter (Cp MC) Dec 10-15
Uranus (Cn Moon) Dec 16 to Jan 9
Uranus (Cn Moon) Jupiter (Cn Moon) Jan 10-15

(Mars zones overlap/intersect with the others above to give more concentrated trigger points. For example, Feb 9-21 is Mars-Saturn-Uranus.)
Mars Jan 15-21
Mars Feb 9-21
Mars Mar 23-29
Mars Apr 6-9
Mars Apr 19-24 (double)
Mars May 25 to Jul 1
Mars July 9-13
Mars Aug 19 to Sep 30
Mars Dec 26 to Jan 13

I don't want to sound too frightening, but...

That Jupiter at 15°02' Sagittarius looked familiar. Then I remembered: Adolf Hitler's Jupiter was 15°03' Sagittarius.

Uranus at 7°39' Aries is likewise only 0°02' from Hitler's Sun at 7°37' Aries.

The U.S. Ascendant for the year is 20°29' Aries. Hitler's Saturn was 20°16' Cancer. The U.S. MC for the year is 2°10' Capricorn, with Hitler's Mercury 2°29' Aries.

It's tempting to believe that the Capsolar shows the overthrow of the exiting regime. I don't know that we should be that narrow, though. It could be the overthrow of something much more fundamental.

Jim wrote:

 It could be the overthrow of something much more fundamental.

Its called Capitalism Jim. Through the lens of Sidereal Mundane Astrology with the Uranus-Pluto symbolism in the 2016 Libsolar with the process of the US election system, I witness the Country Revolutionize the Republican Party with the unexpected revolutionary election of Trump. Now we await to see the Democratic Party's chosen one. IF this 'chosen one' is left of center, I am already on record with the Uranus-Pluto symbolism in the 2020 Libsolar saying the Country will Revolutionize itself again with a revolutionary unexpected election, but at least Trump will be gone . If the Dem Party votes a candidate left of center, I figure the media and Vegas will heavily favor Trump winning a second term, and I already know with prominent angular Uranus-Pluto symbolism through SMA—high % the favored team (Rep Party) does not win. But, I will have to await final Vegas odds going into last week of 2020 Prez election. Now Vegas has the Dem's favored to win 2020 Prez election with Warren and Biden as favored Dem Candidate. I don't know what % the voting millennials are in the US, but here in the South through my immediate environment I see a-lot of the southern millennials favoring Bernie.

Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:17 pm I guess we can't relocate the US government for the ingress, huh.

We the People are the Government.
We are everywhere.

If youd like Me and bunch of my friends can reinact the movie National Treasure
But a piece of paper is just a tool.

The essence lives inside all living things on this planet.

One day 2 hours 22 minutes until the new Capsolar (and counting).

And I think it's going to be one hell of exciting Uranus Capsolar years.

Probably, though I'm expecting the mist specifics from the Sun-Saturn-Pluto conjunction at Midheaven (which is mundane square that Uranus).

Its going to be a very interesting Capsolar year to say the least, can't wait to see the manifestations.

SteveS wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:08 am Its going to be a very interesting Capsolar year to say the least, can't wait to see the manifestations.

I intentionally wrote the Dec 27 to Jan 15 forecast to review what has happened in 2019 vs. the predictions - the Capsolar was solid and dominant all the way through. It's here:
viewtopic.php?f=46&t=3738

The forecast for January 15-23 (the remainder of the current Capsolar month) has my Capsolar 2020 forecast:
viewtopic.php?f=46&t=3714

16 hours 4 minutes

IMO, I think most of the planetary symbolism explained by Jim excellent report for the 2020 Capsolar will manifest with the results centered on the 2020 Prez election. The results of the election will be stunning/shocking for at least one of the political parties and their supporters in a deeply divided political system. Its going to become even more crazy--politically !

I primarily see this Capsolar as symbolizing with high probability Trump loosing his office as Prez with t. Saturn hitting angular Capsolar Sun close to election day.

I don't know if Jim has already pointed this out, but we all should realize for the sake of Sidereal Mundane Astrology even if you don't care--the beginning of the collapse of the DOW with the fundamental news of the C-19 Virus began when t-Saturn was partile conjunct 2020 Capsolar MC . The exact conjunctions of transiting Saturn to 2020 Capsolar MC happened/happens:

Feb 20 2020
Aug 10 2020
Nov 16 2020

As Jim has pointed out: Transiting Saturn('Hindered growth or development') ends today (Mar 10) its partile (1 degree orb or less) to DC's Capsolar MC, (Master Chart of the Year)! Since 'Partile Aspects Reign Supreme' is a mainstay for Sidereal Astrology teachings, lets see if the severe decline in NYSE prices starts to abate.

Transiting Saturn will again become partile DC's MC July 27—Aug 27; and again Oct 31-Nov 28.

Just to set the record clear, transits to ingress angles have shown themselves most effective within a 2° orb, not just 1°; and tomorrow is the day Saturn leaves the 2° orb of conjunct U.S. Capsolar MC.

Jim wrote:

Just to set the record clear, transits to ingress angles have shown themselves most effective within a 2° orb, not just 1°; and tomorrow is the day Saturn leaves the 2° orb of conjunct U.S. Capsolar MC.

Yes, my error, sorry. I am keenly interested to see if we see a-lot of this C-19 Virus fear factor abate with t. Saturn widening its transit orb to DC's Capsolar MC..

Maybe... though I think the timer there (much more on target) is the current Caplunar. Take a look at it in the current monthly forecast.
https://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=3847

Jim wrote:

Take a look at it in the current monthly forecast.

I hope the worst is over but I understand where you are coming from.

SteveS wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:46 am Jim wrote:

Take a look at it in the current monthly forecast.

I hope the worst is over but I understand where you are coming from.

Astrologically, I'd like to think that with the passing of the Saturn transit and the conclusion of the Caplunar month in another week or so, this would quiet down. Notice that for the Liblunar I cite that whatever has been hanging over our heads is partially resolved or cured - and it's only another day or two away. (But that's only looking like a partial resolution.)

Nonetheless, I see a lot of "gearing up" as if we're just at the beginning. The business community is (mostly quietly) making changes to maximize safety. As your friend pointed out, U.S. government agencies are starting to shut down travel. (I may be wearing latex gloves for all contact with anyone 's personal equipment within a few days.) We've been gaming and drilling business continuity models in case the office has to be closed to stop congregating people for a while or if particular individuals need to work from home for a few weeks. - Preparedness is good, of course; I'm only meaning that the momentum of preparedness is still building, not quieting.

Interesting Jim. Its good to prepare for the worst and hope for the best. That is all we can do. My biggest fear is the ineptness of anything to do with Big Government. I have worked in Big Government in my life and was absolutely horrified of how it worked with snail pace timing frames, and that was 20 years ago. I do know this: There is no way out health care industries will be able to handle a Pandemic load of patients, and our government damn well knows this fact.

There is no doubt in my mind from a precise astrological timing standpoint using Sidereal Mundane Astrology, COVID-19 was seriously ushered onto the World Scene when t. Pluto became partile (1 degree or less) conjunct O Capricorn, the Master Point in the Sidereal Zodiac recognized by Sidereal Mundane Astrologers using the Capsolar Ingress. Otherwise, how do we Sidereal Mundane Astrologers explicitly explain the precise astrological timing of this Virus appearance onto the World Scene, which could historically be recorded as timing the most stunning/shocking-- economically devastating Plutonian event to ever occur in this World.

Sidereal Astrology has long taught and known:

Partile Aspects Reign Supreme.

SteveS wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:46 am There is no doubt in my mind from a precise astrological timing standpoint using Sidereal Mundane Astrology, COVID-19 was seriously ushered onto the World Scene when t. Pluto became partile (1 degree or less) conjunct O Capricorn, the Master Point in the Sidereal Zodiac recognized by Sidereal Mundane Astrologers using the Capsolar Ingress. Otherwise, how do we Sidereal Mundane Astrologers explicitly explain the precise astrological timing of this Virus appearance onto the World Scene, which could historically be recorded as timing the most stunning/shocking-- economically devastating Plutonian event to ever occur in this World.

Fair question. My thoughts:

First, I'm skeptical of the "conjunct 0° Capricorn" approach not only because (as far as we know) there isn't anything actually there (at 0°00'00" Capricorn) to be conjoined, but because the exact dividing line of a sign boundary has been easy to demonstrate in other charts. For example, we have examples like the Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 disaster where Sun was at 29°59'10" Gemini, less than 0°01' from the Cancer border, but it was the prior Cansolar - not the incoming Cansolar - that described the event. Sign cusps don't act like they are planets (or some other "thing" that could be conjoined), so I'm skeptical it is happening here.

Second, there is, however, something very similar to this, that would look pretty much the same: Every week we get a new lunar ingress for the world and the time when Pluto first partile conjoined, squared, or opposed Moon in a lunar ingress could be the significant thing. This is surely of some importance (though a little vague because Moon was in partile aspect to Pluto in mundo for various places at various earlier times).

Third, I think the main astrological indicator is the Saturn-Pluto conjunction, then Saturn's immediately going into Capricorn to accurately describe so many of the consequences; but the main thing is Saturn conjunct Pluto.

But let's test how these different things look on a time scale. I'll use the next post for that.

It's a little unclear what timing we should use to examine this astrologically. The virus appears to have entered the human population in Wuhan in mid-November. The earliest known infection is November 17, 2019, perhaps the most objective "event," but it wasn't in mass mind until mid-December and, I think, really started breaking loose in mid-January.

Looking back through Solunars.com posts, I find that I mentioned it in the Mars in Scorpio thread (within a few days of when it started being one of the big headlines every morning) on January 22. This is the earliest mention of the word "Wuhan" I can find on Solunars other than a discussion of the 2017 Wuhan floods. The "January events" thread seems to have no mention of it (our attention was on the impeachment).

So, it seems to me that the first occurrence of the virus was mid-November, the real sense of a problem in China in mid-December (when experts knew something was coming but it wasn't in mass mind), and real emergence in mass mind in planet-wide in mid-January. (If you think other dates need to be checked, I'm open to that.)

If this arose from Pluto partile conjunct 0° Capricorn
Pluto first reached 29°00' Sagittarius - within 1° of 0°00 Capricorn - on February 20, 2020, and will last leave it January 4, 2022. This is over a month after the virus was already a really big deal in worldwide news. This is too late.

If this arose from partile Moon-Pluto aspects in lunar ingresses
The dates are going to be a similar, but slightly different. If we take only ecliptical aspects, the first occurrence was the February 27 Arilunar. Again, this is way too late.

If this arose from Moon aspecting Saturn & Pluto in lunar ingresses
Maybe it isn't partile and maybe it was Saturn way more than (or as much as) Pluto. If we widen to the 3° orb that is usually effective for ingresses overall, we get some interesting dates.
-- Moon (in lunar ingresses) has been conjunct Pluto within 3° for a long time. That wasn't the factor by itself.
-- Moon aspected both Saturn and Pluto within 3° for the first time in the January 10 Canlunar. This is immediately before the virus broke into mass mind through widespread news coverage.
-- Moon was within 1° of aspecting Saturn in a lunar ingress beginning with the January 23 Caplunar, and within 0°01' in the January 31 Arilunar. Trump was exonerated, Brexit completed, and people started putting their mind more on this strange flu bug coming out of China.

And it went on from there. Based on lunar ingresses, I'd say that Moon's aspects to Saturn within 3° is the best "fit" so far.

If this arose from the Saturn-Pluto conjunction
Saturn conjunct Pluto moved within a 3° orb December 7. The first case had occurred in China three weeks earlier and the sense that wider outbreak in Wuhan was just starting (usually defined as second or third week of December). Saturn-Pluto moved to within 1° December 31, 2019. The aspect was exact January 12, immediately before the Capsolar, exactly (within a few days) when this was breaking into mass consciousness through widespread news coverage.

The partile orb lasted until January 24, the 3° orb until February 17. By then, we were in widespread, worldwide reaction. My monthly forecast for the February 20 Caplunar month already mentioned the "Wuhan coronavirus" as "currently expanding its reach" and said the Moon-Saturn-Pluto conjunction rising in the new Caplunar was "consistent with a wide-impact pandemic." Steve, you started the thread "Coronavirus Things" on February 28 when it was already underway.

I'm inclined to think this is a primary expression of the Saturn-Pluto conjunction, especially when it was within 1° but also when Moon aspected both Saturn and then Pluto in weekly lunar ingresses within 3°. Then, Saturn entered Capricorn January 31 and started altering how we react to it and how it is altering lives.

The first reports leaking out of China were on January 3rd.

Both the US and S Korea reported their first cases on January 20. S Korea immediately instituted taking temperatures before people were allowed in or out of any building and appears to have managed to flatten the curve and avoid the crisis.

Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:40 am The first reports leaking out of China were on January 3rd.

Both the US and S Korea reported their first cases on January 20. S Korea immediately instituted taking temperatures before people were allowed in or out of any building and appears to have managed to flatten the curve and avoid the crisis.

This is essentially (within a day here or there) identical with the Saturn-Pluto aspect's greatest closeness.

Jim, I understand where you are coming from with the Saturn-Pluto conjunction in the 2020 Capsolar, no argument from me.

This is what my Sidereal Astrology mind sees/feels with this Capsolar: The effects of "Social Distancing" enforced onto the World by the COVID-19 Virus is the most Worldwide Plutotian event I have ever witness in my life. This "Social Distancing" Worldwide effect is taking place now with t. Pluto partile conjunct 0 Capricorn and its angular Sun, the Master Point of the Sidereal Zodiac. Our early fathers of Sidereal Astrology taught us about the possible "isolating" effects of a prominent Pluto in charts, and the Capsolar Ingress is the Master Chart of the year taught by the great Sidereal Astrologer Donald Bradley. Cyril Fagan, our father of Sidereal Astrology stated:

The most symbolic planet for "isolating" chart effects in the system of Sidereal Astrology is a prominent Pluto.

With 20-20 hindsight, the most dominating astrological "theme" I see happening now with this 2020 Capsolar is the devastating economic effects of what appears to me as an "isolating" Pluto manifesting onto the World Scene enforced onto society with "Social Distancing," manifesting with a t. Pluto partile cnj 0 Capricorn and its Sun in our Sidereal Zodiac. Its intense--to say the least...and is being felt by people worldwide. This one Capsolar is very unique with its "isolating" Plutonian effects on the World and its people.

SteveS wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:18 am The effects of "Social Distancing" enforced onto the World by the COVID-19 Virus is the most Worldwide Plutotian event I have ever witness in my life. This "Social Distancing" Worldwide effect is taking place now with t. Pluto partile conjunct 0 Capricorn and its angular Sun, the Master Point of the Sidereal Zodiac. Our early fathers of Sidereal Astrology taught us about the possible "isolating" effects of a prominent Pluto in charts...

Yes, it fits Pluto symbolism well (and Pluto is surely part of it). I submit that it fits Saturn equally well. Saturn can be every bit as isolating as Pluto, though having the two of them together is even better!

It only hit me this morning how incredibly funny and appropriate it is that people are hording toilet paper as a Saturn phenomenon! I was reading Fagan's "Thingish Thought" chapter in Astrological Origins and his remarks on Saturn as horder - immediately remembering Bradley's "Kid Gloves" development of Saturn in terms of defecation habits - and that started running through all the secondary themes and subplots of this virus. Besides the fear it is generating, the government control and enforced isolation (people aren't Pluto-like withdrawing because they want to get away from people and be alone, but for Saturn-like motives like fear and government control), and the very Saturn-themed phenomenon of the falling stock market, there are numerous other Saturn themes: the focus on the elderly, the already-mentioned defecation and hording themes, the unreasonable fear of food shortages (the national food supply is doing very well), etc. People may actually die from being poor, with the low-income being acutely at risk of homelessness, hunger, and lack of critical medical care.

But Saturn couldn't do this alone, of course. Pluto definitely has a part in it.(Then again, Pluto couldn't do this alone. This kind of economic impact alone would require Saturn or Neptune.

With 20-20 hindsight, the most dominating astrological "theme" I see happening now with this 2020 Capsolar is the devastating economic effects of what appears to me as an "isolating" Pluto manifesting onto the World Scene enforced onto society with "Social Distancing," manifesting with a t. Pluto partile cnj 0 Capricorn and its Sun in our Sidereal Zodiac. Its intense--to say the least...and is being felt by people worldwide. This one Capsolar is very unique with its "isolating" Plutonian effects on the World and its people.

As mentioned, I'd feel more comfortable with this idea if there were actually something there at 0° Capricorn or if Pluto had actually entered Capricorn. OTOH Saturn has entered Capricorn and many of these effects / phenomena (similar expressions) have appeared when Saturn has been in Capricorn in the past. Some of these (all of which I forecast ahead of Saturn entering Capricorn) are:

A perception of shortage of secure space, isolation, redrawing boundaries This has often appeared in territorial (national boundary) senses - and hardening of borders has certainly happened in this disease cycle - but also in other areas that have containment and shortage of space as themes. Walls, embargoes, spatial segregation (Berlin Wall, Cuban embargo, barbed wire invented, zip codes established; post-USSR and Yugoslavian splitting off of historically separate countries into autonomous nations; other breaking off of countries previously acquired by larger countries; Brexit official on Saturn's first day in Capricorn).

Shortages, foremost historically being hunger/famine (but at the moment only the fear of it, since real food shortages aren't occur beyond store stocking issues).

Financial crises, often historically leading to new controls and restructurings. Economic hardship and economic controls/response have been gigantic themes with Saturn in Capricorn in the past.

Fear and our response to it. Saturn in Capricorn has been a time of heightened fears, though the focus has usually been on how we handle it for than on giving way to it. (No era of my life more resembles the current time than the feeling of the Kennedy years, the depth of the Cold War, bomb shelters, families planning for isolation and hording supplies, Cuban missile crisis, civil defense, the rush to develop new medicines, etc.).

Bottom line (as written in advance): Individual and political struggles for survival and autonomy, shortages of secure space, hunger and dwelling issues, vast economic (primarily financial) institutional management and restructuring, a central place in our lives of fear and how we manage and respond it, focus on disabilities and misfortune, etc.

Excellent points Jim. Definitely the COVID-19 Virus has been a major game changer--now much more important than what I expected to be the main news maker--the Prez election.

DC's t-Saturn to 2020 Capsolar MC clobbered this Country; and, t-Pluto to Capsolar Sun hit the entire World like mega tons of bricks with this wicked Virus.

Agreed!

I maybe wrong and jumping to conclusions but I can see a high likely hood that the 2016 Flood in China and the cyclones in that year as well as the megadams, set in motion all the conditions for this virus to take hold.
I do not see the 4year gap in events as having any bearing because an event of such magnitude does not blip into existence like some Higgs particle, before a virus takes hold of the human population it invades all "lower" life forms in one way or another...ie the water cycle, mosquitoes, fish, algae, mollusks, snakes. The chart for that flood is a uranus mars nature, which is nature run amok doing what nature does with its balancing act. The Earth has viruses as a means to keep toxicity in check.

Yes, that crossed my mind, too, though I wasn't sure how I'd verify it. Something my have gotten unearthed.

Excellent points V.

IMO, we are seeing the "invisible" destructive force of a Sidereal Mundane Astrology (SMA) Pluto being unleashed through nature onto the World with SMA's solar/lunar ingresses. What is a Sidereal Mundane Astrology Pluto? It is first a t. Pluto partile conjunct 0 Capricorn and its Sun with the 2020 Capsolar (Master Mundane Chart of the Year), which imo initiated and unleashed this SMA destructive Pluto Cycle (2 years off/on), economically. Second, it will be a Capsolar Pluto partile conjunct 0 Capricorn Sun with the 2021 Capsolar (Master Chart of the Year), backed-up with a very destructive angular DC Mars-Saturn partile 90, with an eventual t. Saturn sitting on 2021 Capsolar's DSC. Third, a partile T-square of Sun/Pluto = Moon with the 2021 Cansolar applying to the Whole World in an angular manner, probably symbolizing the peak of this destructive "invisible" Pluto Cycle. What is the specific result for the World with this long-term SMA Pluto Cycle? Being educated by a very wise person when I was 21 about the historical truths of economics associated with the currency of a Nation(s), my best guess is a World Wide Depression. I sincerely hope my best guess is dead wrong!

Reading some of the articles in Spica, I came across several that collated what we already know about the planets and adding new perspectives. There was one - I think it was by Carl Stahl - that gave a perspective on Pluto that I think might be especially useful right now.

We are accustomed to talking about Pluto in terms of transitions - walking out one door into another - leaving one phase irrevocably behind and starting a new one. BTW, I think this irrevocability is what distinguishes Pluto changes from Uranus changes. You can call Pluto "transformation" or other words that apply the same thing, but what we ultimately mean is that you cross a line from a particular past to a particular future and there is no going back - the transition is irrevocable. (Charles Carter called this the "Janus" side of Pluto, named after the god who separately represented both sides of a doorway - the one you enter and the one from which you step forth.)

Anyway... we tend to summarize this expression of Pluto as "old endings and new beginnings," and, as a community, we tend to dwell on "ending old conditions." This gives Pluto a more destructive feel - a planet of endings, terminations, annihilation, destruction - and plays to our unconscious need to hold onto things the way they've been (even though they are going away for good).

The author (I think it was Stahl) suggested (I think wisely) that we should simply drop the "endings and..." part of the phrase and speak of Pluto as the planet of entirely new beginnings. Ultimately, the meaning is the same though the psychological impact on us is different: Entirely new phases of life necessarily mean that old phases conclude or fade away. To focus on the outgoing is to trigger resistance to the transition. It alters how we look at the events if we simply call the period "entirely new beginnings."

We can even call them unprecedented new conditions or unprecedented future - using a favorite Pluto word make the wording even stronger.

Jim Eshelman wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 7:19 am Yes, that crossed my mind, too, though I wasn't sure how I'd verify it. Something my have gotten unearthed.

It hit me like a ton of bricks yesterday, a conversation I had with myself, when I read years ago about that flood.

I said..."self.....that is a nasty stew a brewing"

The two most interesting classes I ever took in college were Ancient Life and Environmental geoscience which both stressed the super duper long cycles of things we see (meaning they took an extremelt long time to get ti what we see) and how water plays a staring role in everything here on earth.

I had been concidering all the holistic treatments of flu over the ages and compiling a list of natural remedies. I came across one....the most effective treatment studied and almost spit out my coffee. Its made from the heart and liver of local ducks. Ducks who have been living in the local water supply eating and drinking what ever......and whoes immune system had integrated into its vital organs the virus at large and abated it.

Edit: so people stumbling across this.......duck heart and liver are not a cure!!! DO NOT go out hunting ducks thinking you can consume the organs or what have you!!!! That is not the solution nor treatment.

Jim I completely agree with what your saying about the positive side of Pluto.

Im nit reading or hearing much about Jupiters role in all of this but I would offer this positive though about this virus.

From what I have come to understand....

I believe that as this virus afflicts people in thier lungs it is going to biochemically trigger near death expierences.
Our bodies produce many chemixal cocktails to help us survive. One of the strongest most potent is called DMT ...the God drug....dmt has hallucinating abilities and users/expierencers claim to become one with god/universe.
Dmt is made and stored in the lungs. It is released when the lungs and heart are under duress.
This pandemic may very well give rise to a very Jupitian Crowning event in that people afflicted will have a spiritual awakening of sorts.

I do also see a huge mass of people now homeschooling thier children and loving it and not planning on going back to the grind as they now feel that money is wirthless and the real value of life is in raising and teaching our young.

I have also veen watching the indigenous Nations of the US and the sacred healing dances that they are doing via virtual PowWow....dances never before filmed or viewed publicly, they are sharing with the world to heal us all. And I will remind us all that these are a people who in our own country have deep rooted anger and frustration towards our "civilization" and could be dancing fir iur demise....but they are not...they are dancing to heal every single person because they know we are all related.
As they say
Prayers up
Tobacco down

Jim wrote:

You can call Pluto "transformation" or other words that apply the same thing, but what we ultimately mean is that you cross a line from a particular past to a particular future and there is no going back - the transition is irrevocable. (Charles Carter called this the "Janus" side of Pluto, named after the god who separately represented both sides of a doorway - the one you enter and the one from which you step forth.) The author (I think it was Stahl) suggested (I think wisely) that we should simply drop the "endings and..." part of the phrase and speak of Pluto as the planet of entirely new beginnings.

A very keen observation with much truth Jim. And IMO, we Siderealists are seeing this 'stunning/shocking' Pluto manifestation in the entire World with t. Pluto partile conjunct the Capsolar Sun pertaining to the Master Point of the Sidereal Zodiac at 0 Capricorn, which allows us to compute the Mundane Master Chart of the Year—the Capsolar. For me, it is truly the most important astrological impact on all my astrological senses for my entire life in so many ways. But the most impact it has on me is the realization that this is the first time in USA's entire history this Country has experienced this Pluto transit. We are indeed witnessing probably the greatest 'transition'/transformation of peoples lives in this World. The sooner we all start accepting this Pluto truth Jim has written about, and adapting our lives in positive ways to its 'new beginnings' –the better off our psyches will become for us as individual & friends/family.

Culturally the sign changes of all three outer planets would seem to hold very important moments in the histories of the World. Thus Reinhold Ebertin has suggested that Pluto's change of sign marks out major shifts within society and that it will indicate the area of life which is likely to be subjected to major transformation. Page 232, Mundane Astrology.

IMO, this 2020 Capsolar may become a cornerstone for all Siderealists as marking the most important Pluto transformation this Country has ever experienced, and probably for the entire World.

SteveS wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:00 am IMO, this 2020 Capsolar may become a cornerstone for all Siderealists as marking the most important Pluto transformation this Country has ever experienced, and probably for the entire World.

We might explore, in comparison, 1981, the year that Pluto entered Sidereal Libra. For the Capsolar that year, Pluto was 29°50' Virgo, 0°10' from square an exactly culminating Sun and 0°13' from square MC. Pl = Su/MC 0°01'.

Can we find comparable scoped transitions then? Reagan had just been elected and took office six days later. (He was shot under this one: Rising Moon square Mars 0°06' and culminating Sun square Pluto 0°10'.) The year overall might be a good cultural comparison.

I think that's the only comparable year since Sidereal Astrology has existed as a distinct study. The next prior of comparable consequence would have been 1934-35 as Pluto entered Cancer. In the 1934 Capsolar, Pluto was 29°50' Gemini (0°10' from opposite Sun), not angular but quite interesting worldwide because they both squared Uranus at 29°43' Pisces and Jupiter at 28°31' Virgo. The next year, 1935, Pluto at 1°09' Cancer opposed Sun right across the Washington, DC horizon (Pluto 1°06' above Asc, Sun 1°09' below Dsc, mundane opposition 0°03'). Yeah, that would be a year to compare!

Jim, offer us your keen astrological mind/thoughts on Pluto entering Capricorn.

SteveS wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:49 am Jim, offer us your keen astrological mind/thoughts on Pluto entering Capricorn.

You mean like this thread? viewtopic.php?f=34&t=2475

Yes JSAD, I had forgotten about this thread, thanks.

It is my contention that t. Pluto partile conjunct the Capsolar Sun at 0 Capricorn (Master Point in the Sidereal Zodiac) in the 2020s Capsolar's (Master Mundane Chart for the Year) of the World has identified with acute astrological timing using Sidereal Mundane Astrology--- a “Black Swan” event for the World. You can read about a “Black Swan” event/theory here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_swan_theory

Here is a man who on Feb 25th 2020 predicted a “Black Swan” event happening/unfolding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEnuWv38urI

Trump's election was a Black Swan event (following this definition). We've been living in Black Swan territory for three years now, and at extreme risk for continuing it an additional four.

So yeah - events that seem inconceivable in advance have tended to become everyday matters, which doesn't stop them form upending us and leaving a sense of instability under our feet.

Jim wrote:

So yeah - events that seem inconceivable in advance have tended to become everyday matters, which doesn't stop them form upending us and leaving a sense of instability under our feet.

I look upon the C-19 Virus as the Black Swan event---turning much of the world/economic order upside down. I noticed the "Black" Plague in the mid 1,500s was mostly ushered onto Europe when t-Pluto was at another cardinal point in the Sidereal Zodiac---0 Aries. The Black Plague also self quarantine ("isolated") people into their homes and wrecked Europe's economy.

SteveS wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:35 pm The Black Plague also self quarantine ("isolated") people into their homes and wrecked Europe's economy.

Yes. Quite famously, when Cambridge sent him home to self-quarantine, Isaac Newton had time on his hands so he invented calculus and wrote out his theory of gravitation

Jim Eshelman wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:22 am Trump's election was a Black Swan event (following this definition). We've been living in Black Swan territory for three years now, and at extreme risk for continuing it an additional four.

So yeah - events that seem inconceivable in advance have tended to become everyday matters, which doesn't stop them form upending us and leaving a sense of instability under our feet.

I did not see this thread till now
How very strange that yesterday on my hike I found a black squirrel which did completely unend me and me question my understanding of my environment! Ive read field guides back and forth and hiked a million miles around NY......

I felt like I had found a Leprechaun!
I even made a movie of the little guy.

DC's 2020 Capsolar (Sun 00,00 Capricorn) is the Country's Master Mundane Chart of the Year. Transiting Jupiter, Astrology's Greater Benefic has just entered 00,00 Capricorn! DC's Capsolar MC is 02,10 Capricorn and DC's Capsolar Sun of course is at 00,00 Capricorn. On May 15 transiting Jupiter is Stationed at 02,13 Capricorn, partile conjunct DC's Capsolar MC---"Partile Aspects Reign Supreme!"

“Timing is Everything.” If there was ever a good (benefic) TIME, between now and May 15th our Country should start seeing some kind of benefic relief news from this terrible Pandemic. The overnight futures market with the DOW is now up near 800 points. Lets see if this benefic TIME period between now and May 15th brings the Country an improving market condition-- with improving numbers on the Country's Curve of Pandemic infections and deaths.

I will pray that the Jupiter influence manifests as our top chemists finding a vaccine for the whole world.