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Feb 19: Nicolaus Copernicus & Karen Silkwood
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:35 am
by Jim Eshelman
Nicolaus Copernicus Februry 19, 1473, 5:00 PM LAT, Torun, Poland (AA data)
Karen Silkwood February 19, 1946, 9:50 PM CST, Longview, TX (AA data)
Re: Feb 19: Nicolaus Copernicus & Karen Silkwood
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:26 pm
by Veronica
Nicolaus Copernicus
Moon Square ASC
Jupiter Square ASC
Sun opposite ASC
Moon Square Sun
Moon conjunct Jupiter
Saturn Square Pluto
Saturn Square Sun
Sun opposite Pluto
Mars Square Neptune
Double Hub
Scorpio Stellium
Lacking Cardinal (only Uranus)
A person with a deep feeling for the richness of life, seeking ways to expand the known environment. a deep loving and curious nature akin to child like manners and emotions but expressed maturely and soberly. Popular and well liked after a time of hard work, suffering separation and isolation that fleshes out deeper ideas about ones role and place in the system of life.
Re: Feb 19: Nicolaus Copernicus & Karen Silkwood
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:09 pm
by Veronica
Karen Silkwood (I have no idea who this person is and I did not read any bio)
Moon Conjunct ASC 1°13s
Moon square MC -2°50s
Saturn partile square ASC 0°17s
Saturn conjunct MC 1°54s
mars square ASC 4°50s
Mars conjunct MC 6°27s
Mars square Neptune -5°57a
Moon square mars 3°37s
Moon Square Saturn -0°56a
Sun conjunct Venus 4°30s
Mercury conjunct Venus 2°57s
Lacking Fire
Very strong willed and self confident individual who emotionally struggled against established institutions desiring a big change. A shocking heartbreaking story. A person capable of bringing about great change in a shocking way by expressing her beauty and communicating the truth by sharing her feelings.
Re: Feb 19: Nicolaus Copernicus & Karen Silkwood
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:32 pm
by Danica
Veronica wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:09 pm
Karen Silkwood (I have no idea who this person is and I did not read any bio)
I don't either, and will intentionally look into the bios of those I'm unfamiliar with only after looking into their charts first
Re: Feb 19: Nicolaus Copernicus & Karen Silkwood
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:36 pm
by Veronica
Danica wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:32 pm
Veronica wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:09 pm
Karen Silkwood (I have no idea who this person is and I did not read any bio)
I don't either, and will intentionally look into the bios of those I'm unfamiliar with only after looking into their charts first
I Know!! I almost wish that we would just be given the birth data without the name so that any preconceptions are not dragged in and bias's, or finding what you were looking for kind of thing. but I am using astro.com so i have to type in the name to pull the chart from the data bank.
Re: Feb 19: Nicolaus Copernicus & Karen Silkwood
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:34 pm
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Veronica wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:36 pm
I Know!! I almost wish that we would just be given the birth data without the name so that any preconceptions are not dragged in and bias's, or finding what you were looking for kind of thing. but I am using astro.com so i have to type in the name to pull the chart from the data bank.
Nope nope nope nope.
You can just go to "my astro" sign in, and click the blue banner that says "+ add new astro data." Then you can fill out the form, marking it with Solunars and the date and A or B instead of a name.
You can proceed from there.
Perhaps Jim would consider naming his examples Solunars 2-22-2020 -A or somesuch and not adding the names till he posts the next day. IT's not like we can't look them up either if we want to.
Nicholas Copernicus
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:30 pm
by Jim Eshelman
Nicholas Copernicus was one of the greatest astronomers in history (and also an astrologer, from an era where there often was no difference). He is best known for articulating the theory that our Earth orbits our Sun, thereby being (overly simplistically) paving the way for a shift from a geocentric view of the universe to a heliocentric view. He was a true "Renaissance man" not just because he lived in the Renaissance but because of the scope and diversity of his knowledge - a typical Aquarian luminary characteristic, with expertise in many fields, especially economics.
We will see marks of strong religious motives in his chart as well, so it's worth noting that he had a doctorate in canon law.
Copernicus had Sun in Aquarius and Moon in Scorpio - a double Hub - with the Aquarius traits traits shining in all the details of his life. An Aquarius-Scorpio, among traits, will be truth-driven, courageous, penetrating, etc. Many of the fine points of Scorpio Moon are likely too subtle and personal (other than these) to be evident from history's trace, but in general he was born to be a radical.
In fact, his radical genius is shown by the most powerful feature of his horoscope: While it isn't surprising that his life would have much to do with the Sun - he was born with Sun 2°40' above Descendant - he also had Pluto rising, 1°03' above Ascendant. This not only placed the Sun/Pluto midpoint within a degree of the horizon, it gave him a reasonably orbed (3°43') Sun-Pluto opposition across the horizon. Besides these, Moon and Jupiter were conjoined (partile) about 7° from IC. all of this shows a positive but eccentric life with Moon-Jupiter near IC especially showing the important and religiously-infused family from which he came and his own devout nature.
Beyond the Aquarius-Scorpio influence (and Aquarius Mars), Sun-Pluto across the horizon, and Moon conjunct Jupiter near IC, I should note that Moon-Jupiter is closely trine Venus. This aspect is natural to a certain comfort in life. Venus-Jupiter trines, specifically, as far as I can discern, add to social skills and instincts though without a pressure for connection or to fulfill them. It seems, in fact, that with Pluto rising opposite an Aquarian Sun he was more withdrawn and private, though perfectly comfortable around social and elegant events.
Venus is middleground and exalted, and trine Moon-Jupiter. It also is octile Mars. For the time, with Sun on Descendant, we would expect marriage as of primary importance to him. He never married, however, though he appears to have had a sexually active relationship with his housekeeper late into life which brought at least minor scandal. I take this as fulfillment of the Venus condition, his Scorpio Moon, etc., and suggest that, with Sun setting, it was more of a marriage type of relationship (emotionally) than usually admitted. It was, however, deliciously scandalous Aquarius and Sun-Pluto fashion.
For all of his learning and importance in mathematics, as an astronomer, with languages, and as a writer, I am surprised his Mercury is so inactive. It is middleground in Pisces, its detriment and fall, and unaspected. Mercury in Pisces has a very different kind of mind than I think Copernicus had, especially with reason and illogic at war. It, perhaps, reflected his attraction to unusual kinds of thoughts but, really, his Mercury is a dumb note from placement and aspects.
Of all the fixed stars, he has Denebola (the lion's tail) rising. Ptolemy considered it like Saturn and Venus, but Ebertin boldly labelled Denebola as of the nature of Uranus, a bit quarrelsome, and related to ideas of reform and progress - which, I suppose, fits Copernicus just fine. This is consistent with my small list of people with Sun conjunct or opposite Denebola who all set out to shake things (though it could be that they were all Aquarians).
PS - His Novien is interesting enough. Moon conjoins Pluto and both oppose his nativity Uranus (with Pluto square Mercury), certainly fitting for one who remapped the mathematical constructs of astronomy as his climactic life's work.