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Work Weirdness
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:50 am
by sotonye
So I keep getting called into the principals office basically to be warned against talking to female students since, when they talk to me, they stop going to their classes and start going to mine, or they start following me around during the break period or if they see me in the hallway. I have done literally nothing to cause this, and I’m in an impossible position since I have to talk to all students here. I have no idea what’s wrong with me, is this a Pluto thing? I’m falling into disrepute without actually trying to, my coworkers give me weird looks and get weird if I’m just sayin hello to a student, I’m sticking out like a sore thumb without even trying here and I think of quitting everyday
Re: Work Weirdness
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:54 pm
by James Condor
Pluto, Mars and Neptune come to my mind. Mars in Neptune and/ or Pluto specifically. I’d guess it’s Pluto though
Re: Work Weirdness
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:08 am
by Veronica
Lotsa red flags in this message.
Im gonna say its simply your Aries sun.
Your principal is weighing the risk factors of a potential sexual harassment/or other such things.....
If you work with children I hope you have very clear boundaries and do not strive to be a childs friend. You are supposed to be a role model and an adult and a teacher. Kids are friends with thier peers not the emoyees of the school.
Btw....I hope for your sake that you do not attend an meeting to discuss your job with out a Union Rep.
Re: Work Weirdness
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:19 am
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
It doesn't sound like a Pluto thing. More a Mars-Venus, maybe Sun thing. Also sounds like you're enjoying it rather than shutting it down. Shut it down by modifying your behavior. You're the adult. You set the boundaries.
Re: Work Weirdness
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:50 am
by Avshalom Binyamin
You have not done "literally nothing". You are saying hi to, and talking to, female students in a way that causes your principal and multiple adults to be concerned enough to talk to you repeatedly about it.
It sounds like you need to modify your behavior to be less approachable and more reserved and professional, and if that seems impossible then yes, another career path would be good to consider.
Re: Work Weirdness
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:21 am
by sotonye
Let me give an example of exactly what’s happening. Last Friday a student was crying in the hallway, I asked her what’s wrong, she said she doesn’t want to talk about it, I said ok well it’s good to express yourself so find someone you trust and pour it all out to them, then I went on my way. Monday came around, I show up at the school, the same girl who didn’t want to talk starts following me when she sees me walking past her class. I ask if she’s allowed to go out, she says no, I tell her to go back, she says, “no it’s ok, my teacher lets me leave,” I say well that sounds impossible and you should go back, she laughs, my coworkers see her laugh and give me a weird look, I get called to the office. Every instance is like this, I don’t really say much more than examples like this, I set pretty clear boundaries and tell students to get to class constantly, when I say I’m not doing anything to cause this I’m not misinterpreting my own behavior.
Re: Work Weirdness
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:04 pm
by Jim Eshelman
So if you don't think your behavior is reasonably causing this reaction and you're pretty sure you're representing your behavior accurately, let's take a different tactic: (1) How long has this reaction to you been going on? (2) Is there any other situation in your life where people have a similar reaction to other behavior of yours, and how long as that been going on?
Re: Work Weirdness
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:44 pm
by sotonye
Jim Eshelman wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:04 pm
So if you don't think your behavior is reasonably causing this reaction and you're pretty sure you're representing your behavior accurately, let's take a different tactic: (1) How long has this reaction to you been going on? (2) Is there any other situation in your life where people have a similar reaction to other behaviors of yours, and how long as
that been going on?
This has been going on I think for maybe 5 weeks, ever since I told another girl student that she has to back off and she started crying, refusing, and causing a bit of a scene. I’ve never had this sort of reaction from others before except recently, from my parents, since I purchased a firearm, they think I’m a bit of a weirdo for this
Re: Work Weirdness
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:40 am
by Jim Eshelman
Sotonye, as I thought about this last night, I realized nobody had said the obvious thing that's been in my head and (I bet) the head of others who have been answering you.
There's something I'm sure you know and, for some reason, are overlooking. It's this: Adolescent girls will follow around hot, cuddly24-year-old guys that pay attention to them, whether it is positive or negative attention. Period. End of story. - Except that adults responsible for those adolescent girls in a school setting spend a lot of their time worried about thing like this and interfering with it.
So far, you've had a school librarian and a liberal-minded devoted father of a young daughter share their impressions. I think they've given valuable counsel, especially from those specific perspectives.
I don't know you personally and don't know for sure how you present yourself i nthe world. However, as an Aries with a foreground Mars plus a very closely angular, well-aspected Taurus Moon, I suspect "hot and cuddly" isn't a stretch.
Veronica's advice is on target. You aren't there to be their friend, but to be one of the responsible adults looking out for them. There are different ways to do this and you've likely had more direct training on it than I have or, if not, you should get some for the sake of your job and career. Boundaries are crucial.
(Five months ago, the only thing that I see big in your chart is that Jupiter transited your Moon-Jupiter and crossed your Descendant. This would be a positive thing - usually good for reputation, not bad. It came on the tail of Saturn's square to your Venus and was surely a nice change of pace! I don't know if this actually changed any behavior to bring on these undesirable results for you, but that's all i see in roughly that time frame.)
Anyway, do not doubt for a moment that the principal and your co-workers do see you as a genuine threat that has to be stopped. It's their basic job. This is through no fault of yours, i.e., you seem not to have done anything specific to draw blame (it's just stuff that happened). Nonetheless, you are responsible for its continuation, for what happens next. (Basic distinction: Blame is always looking backwards. Responsibility is about the present and future.)
Re: Work Weirdness
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:29 am
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Soto.. did you buy new clothes? Glasses? Haircut?
Maybe you look like you're looking for a girlfriend, and the girls are responding. Look at how your settled happy not interesting to the kids coworkers dress and act and see if you need new less interesting work clothes. You should not be able to wear the same clothes out clubbing and to work.
If a girl starts following you, lead her to the principal's office. (My ex used to get followed around at the Mall till I told him to head for the men's underwear section.)
Can the principal or one of the people complaining help you find a mentor? One who can help you handle talking to these girls.
Re: Work Weirdness
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:32 am
by Jim Eshelman
LOL, I once posted on Facebook that the way to get swarmed by teenage girls was to wear a red polo shirt when shopping at a Target store during back to school sales. (It took me 10-15 minutes to realize they just thought I worked there.)
Re: Work Weirdness
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:12 am
by sotonye
All of this is what abby has been insisting when I’ve talked to her about it, that they are just attracted to me, but I dismissed this outright bc it just didn’t strike me that way. But I just realized that all of this started to pick up I think after I had a haircut? And it picked up even more recently when I started shaving my face more often, and so now others can see more fully what I look like. I don’t think it was happening as much when my personal grooming was not very closely attended to