OK, his details are:
Birth Date: December 17, 2011
Birth Time: 10:14 PM
Birth Place: Santa Cruz, CA
Blossom's Son
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Thanks. Here is what jumps out at me:
He's a Sagittarius-Virgo (a double Spoke, i.e, double "mutable") with Mars in Leo.
Mercury squares Ascendant within 1°23'. Neptune squares Midheaven within 1°36'. These are his two strongest planets by far. The Mercury replicates much that's true in his Virgo Moon, and the Mercury and Neptune put a particular spin on how the Sagittarius will show.
His closest aspect is Venus square Saturn, 0°23'. His Moon is pretty dynamically aspected, especially with the opposition to Uranus and square. (Here's an example of conservative use of midpoints: His Moon is square Sun 2°57' on one side and opposite Uranus 1°46' on the other side, so we quickly see that Moon is 0°35' from aspecting the Sun/Uranus midpoint - it lets us see how these energies come together and take shape.)
I didn't particularly pay attention to what you were saying about him. He's only 8, so has a lot of life-forming to go. You may have spent time in a monastery, but his chart looks like it's naturally made for that. He's an intellectual, philosophical, focusing primarily on ideas, a little ambivalent about human contact, with a middleground Sun in close soft aspects to Saturn and Neptune - not overly focused on the worldly, and needing to find a way to make the material and immaterial "fit" together in his life and thinking - which he probably will be able to do pretty well (most Saturn-Neptune aspect people end up doing that pretty well).
Or, that is, at least, what I see on a quick assessment.
As for connections between your charts,the first thing I notice is that your angles and house cusps are nearly identical. The particular stained glass window through which you both look out at the world is essentially the same window and you each relate to the other more or less as the other relates to themselves. Your angular planets especially touch his Mercury (with your Jupiter-Uranus on his Mercury quite excellent) and your Venus opposes his Neptune within 0°26' (which can be a bit weird, fantasy-driven, and unrealistic, especially with his Sun 0°55' from your Neptune as well).
He was even born near your Saturn return so your Saturn's are conjunct. There is a risk that you adversely impact his worldliness, however: Your Saturn is opposite his Jupiter and your Pluto on his Saturn quite closely. OTOH your Jupiter on his IC is positive, giving, and encouraging overall (all three of your benefics are near his angles).
I like the two-way Moon-Mercury for communication and learning from each other. A bit telepathic together, are you?
He's a Sagittarius-Virgo (a double Spoke, i.e, double "mutable") with Mars in Leo.
Mercury squares Ascendant within 1°23'. Neptune squares Midheaven within 1°36'. These are his two strongest planets by far. The Mercury replicates much that's true in his Virgo Moon, and the Mercury and Neptune put a particular spin on how the Sagittarius will show.
His closest aspect is Venus square Saturn, 0°23'. His Moon is pretty dynamically aspected, especially with the opposition to Uranus and square. (Here's an example of conservative use of midpoints: His Moon is square Sun 2°57' on one side and opposite Uranus 1°46' on the other side, so we quickly see that Moon is 0°35' from aspecting the Sun/Uranus midpoint - it lets us see how these energies come together and take shape.)
I didn't particularly pay attention to what you were saying about him. He's only 8, so has a lot of life-forming to go. You may have spent time in a monastery, but his chart looks like it's naturally made for that. He's an intellectual, philosophical, focusing primarily on ideas, a little ambivalent about human contact, with a middleground Sun in close soft aspects to Saturn and Neptune - not overly focused on the worldly, and needing to find a way to make the material and immaterial "fit" together in his life and thinking - which he probably will be able to do pretty well (most Saturn-Neptune aspect people end up doing that pretty well).
Or, that is, at least, what I see on a quick assessment.
As for connections between your charts,the first thing I notice is that your angles and house cusps are nearly identical. The particular stained glass window through which you both look out at the world is essentially the same window and you each relate to the other more or less as the other relates to themselves. Your angular planets especially touch his Mercury (with your Jupiter-Uranus on his Mercury quite excellent) and your Venus opposes his Neptune within 0°26' (which can be a bit weird, fantasy-driven, and unrealistic, especially with his Sun 0°55' from your Neptune as well).
He was even born near your Saturn return so your Saturn's are conjunct. There is a risk that you adversely impact his worldliness, however: Your Saturn is opposite his Jupiter and your Pluto on his Saturn quite closely. OTOH your Jupiter on his IC is positive, giving, and encouraging overall (all three of your benefics are near his angles).
I like the two-way Moon-Mercury for communication and learning from each other. A bit telepathic together, are you?
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Re: Blossom's Son
Haha, yes. 8 year olds are still forming personalities. And yes, he and I are very bonded (as you said, telepathic) so there's definitely "some" element where I see factors of his personality taking shape already. Interestingly, he was born in that monastery.Jim Eshelman wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:48 pm I didn't particularly pay attention to what you were saying about him. He's only 8, so has a lot of life-forming to go. You may have spent time in a monastery, but his chart looks like it's naturally made for that.
You just described him to a "T". And with that last part... Ah, thank you. A sigh of relief.He's an intellectual, philosophical, focusing primarily on ideas, a little ambivalent about human contact, with a middleground Sun in close soft aspects to Saturn and Neptune - not overly focused on the worldly, and needing to find a way to make the material and immaterial "fit" together in his life and thinking - which he probably will be able to do pretty well (most Saturn-Neptune aspect people end up doing that pretty well).
OK, moderating that optimism.Or, that is, at least, what I see on a quick assessment.
Sounds like we have some things to watch out for; one being that I may hem in his worldliness, and another being that I may potentiate unrealistic ideas or expectations about life... concerning, but something to be aware of. He tends to really enjoy hearing about some of the less "socially acceptable" ideologies he doesn't learn about in school. Tempered of course, to fit his age. Not least of which is the concept that we are trained to be obedient consumers, and his task is to remain autonomous from that social-pressure. A slippery slope with the illusions of grandeur I can tend to imbibe with that Neptune influence...As for connections between your charts,the first thing I notice is that your angles and house cusps are nearly identical. The particular stained glass window through which you both look out at the world is essentially the same window and you each relate to the other more or less as the other relates to themselves. Your angular planets especially touch his Mercury (with your Jupiter-Uranus on his Mercury quite excellent) and your Venus opposes his Neptune within 0°26' (which can be a bit weird, fantasy-driven, and unrealistic, especially with his Sun 0°55' from your Neptune as well).
He was even born near your Saturn return so your Saturn's are conjunct. There is a risk that you adversely impact his worldliness, however: Your Saturn is opposite his Jupiter and your Pluto on his Saturn quite closely. OTOH your Jupiter on his IC is positive, giving, and encouraging overall (all three of your benefics are near his angles).
I like the two-way Moon-Mercury for communication and learning from each other. A bit telepathic together, are you?
Re: Blossom's Son
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You have a smart blessed kid Blossom .He tends to really enjoy hearing about some of the less "socially acceptable" ideologies he doesn't learn about in school. Tempered of course, to fit his age. Not least of which is the concept that we are trained to be obedient consumers, and his task is to remain autonomous from that social-pressure.
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Re: Blossom's Son
Here is the larger report – paragraphs on the main things in his chart. I won’t include the preamble because you know if from before: This isn’t an integrated interpretation, it’s the raw material from which to derive one. (I’ve included the luminary house paragraphs but do please take them with a grain of salt.)
ANGULAR PLANETS
Mercury square Ascendant (1°23')
Alert, attentive, observant, strategic, analytic. Mentally sharp, hard to fool (knows more about you than you think). Little emotional affect, hard to read. Nervous (anxiety? worry? touchy?). Easily bored without regular mental stimulation. Good at precise, detailed work; natural at handling business. Curiosity drives sexual choices as much as any other factor.
Neptune square Midheaven (1°36')
Sensitive, vulnerable, feels strongly (tunes into others deeply, not always accurately; feels exposed, over-response). Naturally absorbs & mirrors others’ traits. Sympathy, compassion, empathy (or emotional drama, insecurity, easily hooked, betrayed). Lives in own reality, tenacious with their viewpoint, impervious to logic, passionate about what uniquely frames their view (forges perception of the actual from their concept of the ideal). Favors complexity over simplicity. Dwells within the unknown, choosing mystery over revelation.
MOON in VIRGO
Intellectual, strategic, analytical, calculating, data-driven, efficient. (Too serious.) Intuitive, bizarrely illogical (moody, resistant). Plays victim & retaliates (abuse, betrayal). Service, loyal, devoted, contributing. Courageous. Innocent, simple, modest; expects respect. Romantic, flirtatious; shy. Nervous sensitivity.
Moon in 1st House
Restless, moody, subjective, changeable, eager. Response to a given situation not dependable. Strongly responsive to environment. Emotional “feelers” extended; feelings prominent; eager to help a friend.
Moon opposite Uranus (1°46')
A specie of genius (intellectually rebellious, roving, curious, investigative) is bursting to express itself – not wholly comfortable accepting outside guidance, often wondering why others don’t recognize its nature. Inquisitive, original, futuristic, seeking novelty & needing variety (“will try anything twice”). Free-spirited: psychologically lives outside of convention; but subject to tensions and stiffness from emotional stress.
Moon square Sun (2°57')
Energetic, dynamic, terrific drive, forceful. Psychic vitality, a mental-emotional attitude biased toward success. At home with power. Intense desire in whatever they undertake. High vitality. Sexual desires also particularly strong, passionate, though often narcissistic. Possible vanity, self-exaltation, and obstinacy.
Moon trine Venus (2°00')
Attractive, charming, affectionate, sexual charisma, sensual. Passive-dependent, moody, can be blindsided by strong feelings, often preoccupied with whether they are liked.
SUN in SAGITTARIUS
Social elitism, aristocracy. Excellence, quality. Higher & higher, ambition, travel. Judges self & others, may fail own standards. Right-wrong, reward-punishment, belief- & values-driven. Respects continuity of culture & social rituals. Preserves status quo, heritage, myth when possible. Loyal to tribe. Complacent affection.
Sun in 4th House
Strong parental (paternal) principle (root-conscious). Emphasis on family matters (domesticity). Pride in home. Striving for a secure basis.
Sun sextile Saturn (1°20')
Effective survivor, works hard, few luxuries; prefers modest accommodations. Authority and other parent-based issues to overcome. Serious; yet good sense of humor. Struggles with self-sufficiency can block progress. More inclined to reaction than action.
Sun sextile Neptune (2°36')
Air of secrecy or mystery. Loves drama, music, fantasy, surrealism. Active imagination. Can move and inspire others if they gain focus and perseverance. Sensitive to impressions of people and places. Unrealistic (out of proportion) self-view.
Sun square Uranus (4°43')
Go their own way, unapologetically following their own paths, persuaded that they’re a special case. Easily bored. Loves freedom: bows to no outside authority. Progressive, future-oriented, uninhibited by convention. Self-perspective usually founded in objectivity.
MARS in LEO
Strong, courageous, decisive, self-confident; chutzpah. Upbeat energy. Pragmatic idealist. Leap in to help (whatever is needed); takes charge as needed (autocratic?). Observant, knows what’s going on, reads situations well. Sexually ardent, bold, forthright (often, but not always, the aggressor).
Mars octile Jupiter (0°36')
Exalts strength, competition, & conquest. Zest, vitality, enthusiasm, courage, confidence. Enterprising, resourceful. Sexually lusty, eager, popular, on the hunt. “Money to burn” (generous or extravagant). Aggressive with beliefs, evangelical (enthusiasts, missionaries, barnstormers).
MERCURY in SCORPIO
Outspoken, opinionated, candid. Enjoys mental/verbal competition (arguments or humor). Needs intellectual freedom, resists mainstream ideas & institutional thinking. Mind sharp, strong, strategic (fault-finding). Strains nervous system (nervous irritation). Good singing voice.
VENUS in CAPRICORN
Dutiful/devoted to family/loved ones (secures own freedom and pleasure within that). Tenacious once committed. Paternal themes in their partnering: one party plays a father role (be alert for parent-child dynamics). Sociable, outgoing. Focus on common interests with friends. Beasts in bed. Pride themselves on self-sufficiency.
Venus square Saturn (0°23')
Work, duty, devotion give especial pleasure. Various restrictions (even hardships) in love. Work (with an eye to service) is inherently gratifying; ordinary pleasures may be delayed or sacrificed for responsibilities. Many seem comfortable alone (unpartnered), though there is rarely any sexual restraint (often quite the opposite). Childhood hardship or deprivation often exists (physical or emotional) that shapes adult patterns; many move far from their birthplace to restart their lives. Sober, responsible. Willing to pragmatically sacrifice (even sellout) whatever they need to, for something more important to them.
Venus sextile Uranus (3°46')
Pleasure needs are free from social convention or taboo; enjoys diverse social & sexual experiences. Approach friendship, love, & sex impersonally, on their own terms (deep instinct for flexibility & freedom). Popular, friendly, flirtatious, roguish.
Venus square Jupiter (3°34')
Warm, friendly, giving, hospitable, gracious. Needs to be liked, desires positive attention & appreciation (usually gets it). At home in comfort. Unusual luck opens doors. Inclined to extravagance, possible “spoiled brat.”
OUTER PLANET ASPECTS
Saturn trine Neptune (1°16')
Bridges ideal with actual, renders a vision concrete (creativity realized). Devoted, loyal. Often indifferent to material security: Many withdraw, retire, enter seclusion or asylum. Chronic physical or psychological affliction (disabling?), can include dark states, depression, distrust, struggles with demons.
Jupiter sextile Neptune (1°55')
Idealist (social idealist), dreams of “something better” (impressionable; wants worthy idols). Optimism, faith (hungers for “too good to be true”). Generous (unwisely?). Compassionate, humanitarian, collective-minded. Strategically effective within a “big picture.” Religious, spiritual, mystical interests. Impractical (unrealistic, fantasy) relationship to money.
Jupiter opposite Saturn (3°10’)
Practical, sensible. Responsible, conscientious, patient; effective survivors. Hard work (earning one’s place) brings best rewards. Balances gain & loss: what can be won from losing, what it costs to win (politics, finance). Attuned to tradition; cornerstones of their circles. Orthodoxies draw their allegiance or opposition.
ANGULAR PLANETS
Mercury square Ascendant (1°23')
Alert, attentive, observant, strategic, analytic. Mentally sharp, hard to fool (knows more about you than you think). Little emotional affect, hard to read. Nervous (anxiety? worry? touchy?). Easily bored without regular mental stimulation. Good at precise, detailed work; natural at handling business. Curiosity drives sexual choices as much as any other factor.
Neptune square Midheaven (1°36')
Sensitive, vulnerable, feels strongly (tunes into others deeply, not always accurately; feels exposed, over-response). Naturally absorbs & mirrors others’ traits. Sympathy, compassion, empathy (or emotional drama, insecurity, easily hooked, betrayed). Lives in own reality, tenacious with their viewpoint, impervious to logic, passionate about what uniquely frames their view (forges perception of the actual from their concept of the ideal). Favors complexity over simplicity. Dwells within the unknown, choosing mystery over revelation.
MOON in VIRGO
Intellectual, strategic, analytical, calculating, data-driven, efficient. (Too serious.) Intuitive, bizarrely illogical (moody, resistant). Plays victim & retaliates (abuse, betrayal). Service, loyal, devoted, contributing. Courageous. Innocent, simple, modest; expects respect. Romantic, flirtatious; shy. Nervous sensitivity.
Moon in 1st House
Restless, moody, subjective, changeable, eager. Response to a given situation not dependable. Strongly responsive to environment. Emotional “feelers” extended; feelings prominent; eager to help a friend.
Moon opposite Uranus (1°46')
A specie of genius (intellectually rebellious, roving, curious, investigative) is bursting to express itself – not wholly comfortable accepting outside guidance, often wondering why others don’t recognize its nature. Inquisitive, original, futuristic, seeking novelty & needing variety (“will try anything twice”). Free-spirited: psychologically lives outside of convention; but subject to tensions and stiffness from emotional stress.
Moon square Sun (2°57')
Energetic, dynamic, terrific drive, forceful. Psychic vitality, a mental-emotional attitude biased toward success. At home with power. Intense desire in whatever they undertake. High vitality. Sexual desires also particularly strong, passionate, though often narcissistic. Possible vanity, self-exaltation, and obstinacy.
Moon trine Venus (2°00')
Attractive, charming, affectionate, sexual charisma, sensual. Passive-dependent, moody, can be blindsided by strong feelings, often preoccupied with whether they are liked.
SUN in SAGITTARIUS
Social elitism, aristocracy. Excellence, quality. Higher & higher, ambition, travel. Judges self & others, may fail own standards. Right-wrong, reward-punishment, belief- & values-driven. Respects continuity of culture & social rituals. Preserves status quo, heritage, myth when possible. Loyal to tribe. Complacent affection.
Sun in 4th House
Strong parental (paternal) principle (root-conscious). Emphasis on family matters (domesticity). Pride in home. Striving for a secure basis.
Sun sextile Saturn (1°20')
Effective survivor, works hard, few luxuries; prefers modest accommodations. Authority and other parent-based issues to overcome. Serious; yet good sense of humor. Struggles with self-sufficiency can block progress. More inclined to reaction than action.
Sun sextile Neptune (2°36')
Air of secrecy or mystery. Loves drama, music, fantasy, surrealism. Active imagination. Can move and inspire others if they gain focus and perseverance. Sensitive to impressions of people and places. Unrealistic (out of proportion) self-view.
Sun square Uranus (4°43')
Go their own way, unapologetically following their own paths, persuaded that they’re a special case. Easily bored. Loves freedom: bows to no outside authority. Progressive, future-oriented, uninhibited by convention. Self-perspective usually founded in objectivity.
MARS in LEO
Strong, courageous, decisive, self-confident; chutzpah. Upbeat energy. Pragmatic idealist. Leap in to help (whatever is needed); takes charge as needed (autocratic?). Observant, knows what’s going on, reads situations well. Sexually ardent, bold, forthright (often, but not always, the aggressor).
Mars octile Jupiter (0°36')
Exalts strength, competition, & conquest. Zest, vitality, enthusiasm, courage, confidence. Enterprising, resourceful. Sexually lusty, eager, popular, on the hunt. “Money to burn” (generous or extravagant). Aggressive with beliefs, evangelical (enthusiasts, missionaries, barnstormers).
MERCURY in SCORPIO
Outspoken, opinionated, candid. Enjoys mental/verbal competition (arguments or humor). Needs intellectual freedom, resists mainstream ideas & institutional thinking. Mind sharp, strong, strategic (fault-finding). Strains nervous system (nervous irritation). Good singing voice.
VENUS in CAPRICORN
Dutiful/devoted to family/loved ones (secures own freedom and pleasure within that). Tenacious once committed. Paternal themes in their partnering: one party plays a father role (be alert for parent-child dynamics). Sociable, outgoing. Focus on common interests with friends. Beasts in bed. Pride themselves on self-sufficiency.
Venus square Saturn (0°23')
Work, duty, devotion give especial pleasure. Various restrictions (even hardships) in love. Work (with an eye to service) is inherently gratifying; ordinary pleasures may be delayed or sacrificed for responsibilities. Many seem comfortable alone (unpartnered), though there is rarely any sexual restraint (often quite the opposite). Childhood hardship or deprivation often exists (physical or emotional) that shapes adult patterns; many move far from their birthplace to restart their lives. Sober, responsible. Willing to pragmatically sacrifice (even sellout) whatever they need to, for something more important to them.
Venus sextile Uranus (3°46')
Pleasure needs are free from social convention or taboo; enjoys diverse social & sexual experiences. Approach friendship, love, & sex impersonally, on their own terms (deep instinct for flexibility & freedom). Popular, friendly, flirtatious, roguish.
Venus square Jupiter (3°34')
Warm, friendly, giving, hospitable, gracious. Needs to be liked, desires positive attention & appreciation (usually gets it). At home in comfort. Unusual luck opens doors. Inclined to extravagance, possible “spoiled brat.”
OUTER PLANET ASPECTS
Saturn trine Neptune (1°16')
Bridges ideal with actual, renders a vision concrete (creativity realized). Devoted, loyal. Often indifferent to material security: Many withdraw, retire, enter seclusion or asylum. Chronic physical or psychological affliction (disabling?), can include dark states, depression, distrust, struggles with demons.
Jupiter sextile Neptune (1°55')
Idealist (social idealist), dreams of “something better” (impressionable; wants worthy idols). Optimism, faith (hungers for “too good to be true”). Generous (unwisely?). Compassionate, humanitarian, collective-minded. Strategically effective within a “big picture.” Religious, spiritual, mystical interests. Impractical (unrealistic, fantasy) relationship to money.
Jupiter opposite Saturn (3°10’)
Practical, sensible. Responsible, conscientious, patient; effective survivors. Hard work (earning one’s place) brings best rewards. Balances gain & loss: what can be won from losing, what it costs to win (politics, finance). Attuned to tradition; cornerstones of their circles. Orthodoxies draw their allegiance or opposition.
Jim Eshelman
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