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Boyd's DC July 9 2020 SSR

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:10 am
by SteveS
As I have demonstrated with historical & present Solar Arcs involving Boyd's Solar Arc Pluto = Natal Asc being the par-excellent symbolism for this pandemic/economic crises, I thought I would take a look at Boyd's next DC SSR:

SSR DSC 03,17 Cap
SSR Saturn 04,28 Cap
Natal Pluto 04,08 Cap
SSR Mars 11,40 Pi
Natal Saturn 11,20 Virgo

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Re: Boyd's DC July 9 2020 SSR

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:48 am
by SteveS
I just noticed in Boyd's 2020 SSR—SSR Mars at 11,40 PI is partile conjunct Boyd's Solar Arc directed Mars 11,28 PI on the day JFK was assassinated. On the day of JFK's (Nov 22 1963) assassination, Boyd's Solar Arc Mars (11,28 PI) formed a Paran partile 180 Boyd's Natal Saturn (11,20 Virgo) on Boyd's DC Horizon. Trump's Natal Neptune is 11,51 Virgo. Regardless of any type of possible events for USA/President, Boyd's DC 2020 SSR is a ominous sign for malefic times with Boyd's DC 2020 solar year.

Re: Boyd's DC July 9 2020 SSR

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:17 am
by SteveS
Saturn-Pluto symbolism is par-excellent symbolism for economic contractions. One of the best economic indexes for economic contraction is the unemployment numbers. Since Boyd's 2020 SSR features an angular 'outstanding incident' with t. Saturn partile conjunct Boyd's Natal Pluto, I want to see if Boyd's 2020 solar year will possibly manifest the largest unemployment number in the history of the Country. :cry:

I think the Federal Reserve will have to bail-out most States to keep them from going bankrupt, and to continue to supply the States unemployment money since unemployment is a State function. We will probably see several more Trillions of $ in the next Stimulus Package.

Re: Boyd's DC July 9 2020 SSR

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:27 am
by Jim Eshelman
SteveS wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:17 am Saturn-Pluto symbolism is par-excellent symbolism for economic contractions.
I thought this was a wonderful thing subject to test. I have some information on which to test it but not necessarily all.

First, I agree with you on symbolism. That is, it sounds right, though I probably would have gotten to the same place with "disruption of stable, survival-themed security" (Pluto disrupts Saturn) if they were side-by-side or "survival demands that cause one to withdraw and depart or change direction" for the transit. These aren't all that different in the end.

If this were a transit for a person, what would we expect? For transiting Saturn to natal Pluto, I've previously seen: Hardening; maybe distancing, separative. Tremendous effort possible. Will take on much responsibility if it is self-originated; but challenges any rules or expectations enforced by others.

If it were a transiting Saturn to transiting Pluto aspect foreground in a solunar return (not the same as what you have here), I would say: Harsh loss, separation, hardship, shock. Feeling irrevocable loss. Shouldering unwanted burdens. Worries anticipate a climax in life. One becomes calloused, bluntly saying exactly one's sentiments. Saturn to natal Pluto can be theoretically distinguished from transiting Saturn-Pluto together, but there are at least some thematic similarities.

But how about in mundane astrology? As you know, we have a collection of the worst financial cave-ins in U.S. history. For these, Saturn-Pluto is not a common aspect. It's quite ordinary (in the middle, neither common or rare) as a foreground aspect in ingresses. Checking to see if it existed even as a transiting aspect at the actual time of the crashes, I don't find Saturn or Pluto anywhere close to aspect in any prior U.S. financial cave-in.

Now, that's only the big crashes. There have been a lot of smaller contractions, recessions, etc. I think I worked a bunch of these up once upon a time - I'm off to look for these and see if Saturn-Pluto aspects are present for any of them.

Re: Boyd's DC July 9 2020 SSR

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:41 am
by Jim Eshelman
Here they are. I worked them up under "More economic collapses." I haven't integrated them into SMA with the financial panics because they're really a different category of event with different markers - it would be a bit chaotic to blend them, but I'll find a way one of these days.
viewtopic.php?f=49&t=2781

I don't have saved chats for these, just notes on what was found in the ingresses. Looking for close foreground Saturn-Pluto aspects in ingresses for these (admittedly few) events, I find one: There was a partile Saturn-Pluto square foreground (Saturn 3°30' from Asc, Pluto 5°42' from IC) in the Capsolar for the 2010 "one-man flash crash," which was literally momentary.

So Saturn-Pluto isn't an aspect for financial contraction.

Now... that doesn't mean there won't be a similar effect. If it turns out that the Boyd chart is useful for something other than military, warring, conflictual matters, then the fact that this SSR has Saturn 1°01' from Descendant is alone enough to show significant financial contraction. Furthermore, the mundoscope shows a foreground Mars-Jupiter-Pluto aspect structure (Mars-Jupiter 1°44', Jupiter-Pluto 0°27') that suggests serious financial blows. And the Saturn transit to natal Pluto (0°20') and Mars opposition to natal Saturn (0°20') would certainly have some hardship, hard-blow situation. It's the same "accelerated armed libertarian survivalism" we've been seeing from Saturn, Mars, and (soon) Pluto in Capricorn. Solitary, isolated survival struggles are being shown all sorts of ways.

Re: Boyd's DC July 9 2020 SSR

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:32 pm
by SteveS
Good points Jim.

I take somewhat a different approach with my economic analysis than just the history of the financial panics you analyzed in your excellent 'Reports.' I take what I see happening in the present moment of economic history itself as a possible analytical projection tool for the near 1 year economic future. No different than when I analyze my SSR/SLRs I take into account: What is going on in my environment at the present moment in my history, in order to determine the possible manifestations for my individual self with my Return Charts. For example: I had my very important Natal Saturn-Pluto conjunction (partile mundo) tight conjunct my current SSR IC, with Pluto partile. So, my individual psyche sees what appears to be a very important economic 'contraction' happening now. Can't help-it-- my analytical resources are looking at possible further economic Saturn-Pluto contractions for the near future. Hopefully, its a meaningless projection of my personal psyche onto the economy.

At this present economic moment in time I ask myself: What is happening now with the economy? We see the economy contracting with high(er) unemployment numbers with solid signs unemployment will get worse in the second quarter. I also put much more weight (faith) than you on the 90 year economic cycle repeating itself from 1931 which will include part of Boyd's 2020 solar year. And then I weigh the Capsolars for the near future with an economic slant.

When I look at the 1931 Capsolar I see a huge angular Saturn-Pluto effect with t Saturn partile 180 DC Pluto 3 times during 1931-early 1932. What happened with unemployment during this 1 year moment in 1931 history? Unemployment skyrocketed to 24% (highest in history) with a painful contracting economy. Of course the Stock Market saw this coming with its panic collapse in the autumn of 1929. There was a delayed effect with the main brunt of the economic contraction coming in 1931-32. Will economic history repeat itself with the 90 year cycle from 1931? Only TIME knows for sure. But, when I look at Boyd's 2020 SSR with an angular Saturn-Pluto theme, taken in the context of what is economically happening NOW, I have to give high % it will manifest in the near 1 year future-- something to do with the economy.

Then, when I analyze DC's 2021 Capsolar, knowing t-Saturn will form a transiting paran with Capsolar Mars 3 times, taking into account I personally give high analytical % DC 2021 Capsolar will also manifest something to do with the economy---then it affords me my economic analysis with Boyd's 2020 SSR. Regardless, the future times are malefic with the mundane charts—no matter the specific events to come! I think what is mainly holding things together beneficially for now is t Jupiter coming to exact cnj with DC 2020 MC.

Anyway, I predict very high probability by the end of Boyd's 2020 themed Saturn-Pluto SSR-- we may see the highest unemployment figures ever. The wild card is this Pandemic and its possible future effects. As usual—I hope I am dead wrong because I know its always the economy which is the most important aspect for all our futures.

Re: Boyd's DC July 9 2020 SSR

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:36 am
by SteveS
Jim wrote:
If it turns out that the Boyd chart is useful for something other than military, warring, conflictual matters, then the fact that this SSR has Saturn 1°01' from Descendant is alone enough to show significant financial contraction.
Jim, your above words inspired me to do further research with the Bold Chart pertaining to “financial contractions” involving sound principles of Sidereal Astrology. What I discovered with the entire history of SSR's for the Boyd Chart excited my economic minded soul.

There have only been two times in the entire SSR history of the Boyd Chart when there has been an 'outstanding incident' angular partile aspected Saturn aspect involving a 0,90,180 aspect, both with Boyd's Sun:
1: 1982 (timed the worst and most severe economic recessionary contraction since the Great Depression)
2: 2019 (so far, another bad/severe recessionary contraction)

Boyd's DC 1982 SSR:
https://imgur.com/AXioSAO

MC 21,16 Gem
Sun 22,40 Gem
Mars 22,28 Virgo
Saturn 21,23 Virgo
Note: 1982 Boyd's SSR Pluto 29,38 Virgo partile cnj Boyd's Natal Moon 29,17 Virgo

Boyd's DC 2019 SSR:
https://imgur.com/qqjhd9T

Zenith 19,39 Sag
Sun 22,40 Gem
Saturn 22,10 Sag (Saturn 2,31 cnj Zenith)
Very Important: When Secondary Progressed SSR Moon came within partile orb of 180 SSR Uranus and partile 90 SSR Mercury-Mars partile conjunction, it timed the collapse of the Stock Market in Feb 2020 along with the pandemic outbreak. Also t. Pluto was partile 90 Boyd's Natal Moon. Also note SSR Venus partile cnj SSR IC—don't really know how to read this 'themed' SSR Venus unless for Social Distancing with pandemic in hindsight.

Jim wrote from his SMA book:
Cyril Fagan usefully summarized Sun-Saturn aspects in the foreground as, “an ominous token
of hindrances, obstacles, losses, disappointments and the like...”
Boyd's Feb 13 2020 SLR is also most interesting, both eclipto and mundo timing the beginning of Stock Market collapse and pandemic. (I will later post in SLR topic).