Solunars by Aldebaran Sidereal Academy

Fri Nov 13, 2015 5:20 pm
ONGOING, current time is 11:18 PM in Paris
At least 100 people are being held hostage at a night club in the center of Paris after multiple gun attacks across the French capital killed another 35.

It is believed the shootings occured at two separate restaurants and that a hostage situation has developed at the third - a theatre named Bataclan.

There's something going on near the stade de france - apparently two suicide bombers with bombs packed with nails.

The stadium was the site of a soccer match with 80,000 people who are being kept in the stadium for now.
Two restaurants and a "theater" or nightclub hit were in the 10th arrondissement, not a tourist area, but a big area for young people to go on a Friday night.

Theater/stadium venues and places where young people go. Expecting Jupiter and maybe Venus near the angles.

Danica wrote:

Wikipedia has a page about these events; it gives time of beginning: 21:16 (CET) of 13 November 2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_ ... is_attacks

A police person said, along with 118 confirmed dead so far, which will probably go close to 140, it started "around 8PM".

ETA, the police spokeswoman was talking about the Bataclan Concert Hall with the 118, and 140, all told in the three or four attacks. Or not. It's still really a mess being reported.

Jim Eshelman wrote:

For now, let's use 8:00 PM (the exact time doesn't matter much, and see what we can see.

First, I want to look at the most obvious chart Tropical astrologers probably will check - which is actually zodiac independent, but is a mainstay of Tropical mundane astrology - the New Moon from two nights earlier. This should be a significant chart for Paris, since the 24°03' Libra New Moon is angular for Paris, being within 2° of square its MC.

But what else does it show? It's only other close angularity is Jupiter, 1°14' from Nadir. Jupiter is partile sextile the New Moon. Being in the 5th house of the New Moon, at the very least it should have shown a wonderful night at the theater! But it didn't. This chart is the antithesis of helpful.

Actually, Saturn is widely foreground (though Tropical mundane astrologers would simply call it a 6th house Saturn). It is 6°21' below Descendant.

I actually expected to get a good showing from the New Moon. It's a valid astronomical event. But it's not showing what's happening in Paris tonight.

Jim Eshelman wrote:

Year: Capsolar
Uranus on Asc (1°01')
Moon-Pluto sq. (0°56' in mundo)
Moon-Jupiter sq. (2°01')
Back in January, I cited this for Paris with Uranus rising and a locally-distinct Moon-Pluto conjunction: disruptive, explosive, riotous. The Jupiter, as in dozens of events the last few years, is showing political, ethnic, cultural elements.

Bridge
t. Uranus conj. Capsolar Asc 9/28-11/21
t. Neptune conj. Cansolar EP 9/10-1/23
Event Window: September 28 to November 21

Half-year: Cansolar
Neptune sq. MC (0°59')
Venus on Dsc (2°10')
Jupiter on Dsc (3°23')
-- Venus-Jupiter conj. (1°13')
Moon on Dsc (4°42')
-- Mo/Ju on Dsc (0°40')
Not a great chart for this event, though Neptune taking the lead is on-target.

Quarter: Libsolar (Dormant.)
In the mundoscope, a Moon-anchored T-square :
21°45' Venus
22°54' Neptune
23°53' Moon
25°25' Jupiter
25°53' Mars

Month: Caplunar
We're back on target with the Uranus-dominant Caplunar.
Uranus on Asc (0°52')
Sun on Dsc (1°22')
-- Sun-Uranus op. (2°14')
-- Su/Ur on horizon (0°15')
Mercury on Dsc (2°08'), WP (0°53')
-- Mercury-Uranus op. (1°16')
-- Su/Me on Dsc (0°23')
Pluto distantly foreground
Moon-Sun sq. (2°01')

Week: Liblunar
Sun sq. MC (0°10')
Jupiter sq. Asc (1°31')
Saturn distantly foreground
LOL, this is almost as bad - in the same ways - as the New Moon!

Day: Capsolar Quotidian & Transits
t. Uranus conj. s. Asc (0°47')
t. Mercury conj. s. Moon (0°24')
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p. MC sq. t. Venus (< 2°)

Day: Cansolar Quotidian & Transits
t. Neptune conj. s. EP (0°11')
t. Mercury sq. s. Asc (1°)
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p. MC op. t. Venus (< 2°)
t. Mercury sq. p. Moon (0°58')


SUMMARY
Year: Uranus. Moon-Jupiter Moon-Pluto.
Bridge: Uranus (Cap). Neptune (Can).
-- Half-year: Moon Venus Neptune (Jupiter). Mo/Ju Venus-Jupiter.
-- -- Quarter: (Dormant.) Moon-Venus-Neptune Moon-Mars-Jupiter-Neptune.
Month: Sun Mercury Uranus. Moon-Sun Su/Me Sun-Uranus Mercury-Uranus.
-- Week: Sun Jupiter (Saturn).
Day (Capsolar): Venus (CapQ). Uranus Moon-Mercury (transit).
Day (Cansolar): Venus Moon-Mercury (CanQ). Mercury Neptune (transit).

So where was Mars?
Danica pointed out the 9:21 time. I checked the transits and he was at home, sitting on the IC.

Jim Eshelman wrote:

Jupiter Sets At Dawn wrote:So where was Mars?
Danica pointed out the 9:21 time. I checked the transits and he was at home, sitting on the IC.

And (though things are still vague), that 9:21 time seems to be holding up so far in what news reporting I've encountered this morning.

The strongest Mars in the main charts is the Moon-Mars-Jupiter-Neptune mundane T-square for Paris in the Libsolar.

There has been a theme running through many posts here lately suggesting that, "Where there is blood, there is Mars," or variants. I'm not sure that's right at all! That's an example of what Fagan called "thingish thought." Astrology isn't showing things that are there, but the psychological state of the experience.

What the charts show here, foremost, is startling, explosive disruption and confusing, panic-fuelling disorientation. These are patterns we see repeatedly for terrorist attacks because the main purpose is disruption and terror.

The Capsolar really had most of it from the beginning. Paris had Uranus exactly rising and a mundane Moon-Pluto square. At a glance, this anticipated something like revolt or riots, events that are explosive and disruptive, that stun the senses and halt the mind with their intensity. The Moon-Pluto is as important and Paris-specific as an angularity, because it only exists in a certain geographic range of longitude and latitude; and Uranus is all over this event (it's primarily a Uranus event).

The general time of year of the most extreme events is narrowed to less than a two-month window by the Bridge, and is defined as primarily a Uranus and Neptune event: Transiting Neptune crosses Cansolar Eastpoint from early September to late January (after being within 1° of square MC when the Cansolar set up). Within that, transiting Uranus is within 2° of Capsolar Ascendant September 28 to November 21. That's or likely event window.

The Libsolar kept things on target for the Quarter with a Moon-Mars-Jupiter-Neptune (plus some Venus) mundane T-square. Moon-Mars-Neptune is pure destructive terror, and the exact Mars-Jupiter elements are consistent (add Neptune) with religious fanaticism.

The Caplunar put Uranus back within a degree of Ascendant - giving us exact Uranus for the year, the month, and the Bridge window - and engaged it in important aspects that round out some details. (The Liblunar didn't help us, though. I see where it's going, but it wouldn't have helped predict a week within the month.)

The day was marked primarily by the Uranus transit to Capsolar Ascendant and Neptune transit to Cansolar Midheaven, with the quotidians being disappointing within that.

So, for the nature of the event, we have Uranus and Pluto for the year; Uranus and Neptune narrowing the time of year; a Mars-Jupiter-Neptune trio slamming the quarter; and a heavily connected Uranus leading for the month. Through this runs a strong Jupiter support theme (religion and other ideological and belief-driven elements, challenges against a prevailing social, political, or economic paradigm, as we've seen over time), a secondary support theme from Sun (attacks aimed at the government), and a ribbon of Venus in several of the charts.

Jim Eshelman wrote:

I'll build a timeline in this specific post, then edit it as necessary - gathering the data for now and for future use. The post will reflect what I think I know at any given point in time.

Dead: 129
Injured: 433
Tag lines: Deadliest attacks in France since WW II. First Paris curfew since 1944. First French state of national emergency since 2005.
Reason: This seems to me an assault on French lifestyle (theaters, cafes, sports) in the same way 9/11 was an assault on U.S. culture through financial and military aspects. ISIL cited France as a center of "abomination and perversion." Some attackers are reported saying this was a retaliation for "all the harm done by Hollande to Muslins all over the world."

Wikipedia summarizes, "three separate explosions and six mass shootings occurred, including bombings near the Stade de France... The deadliest attack was at the Bataclan Theater, where attackers took hostages [killed 87 people] and engaged in a standoff with police..."

TIMELINE: November 13, 2015, Paris.
9:17 or 9:20 PM. Near Stade de France, first of three explosions (suicide bomber at stadium gate).

9:20 or 9:25 PM. Shootings outside a cafe, Le Carillon. - Attackers crossed Rue Bichat and attacked restaurant Le Petit Cambodge, killing 11 people.

9:29 PM. Shots fired at restaurant La Casa Nostra on rue de la Fontaine-au-Roi, 5 killed, 8 injured.

9:30 PM. Second explosion near Stade de France.

9:38 PM. Attackers shooting (killing 18) near restaurant La Belle Equipe, in a three-minute attack.

9:43 PM Explosion near Bataclan Theatre.

9:49 PM. Bataclan Theatre, an hour into a concert, shooting and taking hostages, throwing grenades. 1,500 people present. About 10:00 PM, began gathering hostages as police staged near the theater.

9:53 PM. Third explosion near Stade de France.

11:58 PM. Pres. Hollande televised speech closing France's borders.

12:15 AM approx., police stated an assault on the theater.

12:58 AM (14 Nov). Stand-off at Bataclan Theater ended.

Jim Eshelman wrote:

The start time is stabilizing as 9:20 PM (the first stadium bomb was originally reported at 9:17, not pushed slightly back). A suicide bomber detonated at an entry gate to the stadium.

Mars on IC 1°45'
Pluto on Dsc 7°19'
Venus on IC 8°40'
Ve/Pl midpoint 0°40' from angles

We are moving into the season of close Saturn-Neptune square. Happy holidays, everyone!

Jim Eshelman wrote:

Might as well look at the minor ingresses and their contribution. They're pretty good! In fact, by transits to Arisolar Moon there is such a clear message that we never get rid of these charts completely for their 12 months. (The transits to Moon have impressed me much more than the occasional angular hit.)

ARISOLAR
p. Asc op. s. Mars (1°26')
p. MC sq. t. Sun (0°43')
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t. Saturn sq. s. Moon (0°23')
t. Mercury op. s. Asc (1°57')

LIBSOLAR
p. MC sq. s. Sun (0°05')
p. Asc op. t. Sun (0°00')
--------------------------------
t. Mars sq. s. MC (1°20')

Jim Eshelman wrote:The Libsolar kept things on target for the Quarter with a Moon-Mars-Jupiter-Neptune (plus some Venus) mundane T-square. Moon-Mars-Neptune is pure destructive terror, and the exact Mars-Jupiter elements are consistent (add Neptune) with religious fanaticism.

I thought the Libsolar was dormant.

Quarter: Libsolar (Dormant.)
In the mundoscope, a Moon-anchored T-square :
21°45' Venus
22°54' Neptune
23°53' Moon
25°25' Jupiter
25°53' Mars

Is it the Moon aspects that pull it out of dormancy, or is that a whole different thing?

Jim Eshelman wrote:

The Moon aspects are always relevant. Dormancy only refers to whether angularity fixes phenomena to a location.

If U look all the way through SMA, I read the Moon aspects of dormant returns.

I've looked all the way through SMA a couple times, but it's a dense read, and takes successive exposures to absorb.

Dormancy only refers to whether angularity fixes phenomena to a location.

Hadn't absorbed this. Now that you say it, it's kind of obvious, and I should have picked it up before.

Jim Eshelman wrote:

Pres. Hollande spoke before Parliament today. I don't know when it was, but (1) CNN just sent a breaking news email about it and (2) I found a video of the aftermath posted eight hours ago.

In any case... we already knew France is at war.

Moon is now in Capricorn. The Caplunar is dormant for Paris. Its main effect, therefore, is to abrogate the prior Caplunar, which was basically Uranus rising opposed by Sun and Mercury. the main chart in force is the Liblunar, which has a Sun-Jupiter conjunction angular. Viva la France.

The Caplunar is also dormant for Washington. More on that elsewhere.

SteveS wrote:

Jim wrote:

Year: Capsolar
Uranus on Asc (1°01')
Moon-Pluto sq. (0°56' in mundo)
Moon-Jupiter sq. (2°01')
Back in January, I cited this for Paris with Uranus rising and a locally-distinct Moon-Pluto conjunction: disruptive, explosive, riotous. The Jupiter, as in dozens of events the last few years, is showing political, ethnic, cultural elements.

Yes, I think with the World as is today with the 7 exact Uranus-Pluto squares in the 2010’S, Paris Capsolar was definitely ominous.

Jim wrote:

Might as well look at the minor ingresses and their contribution. They're pretty good! In fact, by transits to Arisolar Moon there is such a clear message that we never get rid of these charts completely for their 12 months. (The transits to Moon have impressed me much more than the occasional angular hit.)
ARISOLAR
p. Asc op. s. Mars (1°26')
p. MC sq. t. Sun (0°43')
----------------------------------
t. Saturn sq. s. Moon (0°23')
t. Mercury op. s. Asc (1°57')

Yes, Using 20-20 hindsight I think it becomes obvious the partile 90 of t. Saturn to Arisolar Moon timed and excited the Venus-Saturn = Moon T-square in Paris. Mundo Mars was the defining non-dormant “theme” in Paris Arisolar.

Jim Eshelman wrote:

This morning, Russia's aviation security chief confirmed that the plane was brought down by "an improvised explosive device."

Arena wrote:

When you read into the ingress charts Jim, do you progress them to see progressed angles? And the pr. Moon?

Also, since we do have two incidents of the same nature, one in Paris and one in Beirut, what do you see as the astrological defining factor of Paris getting so much more attention and sympathy from the world than Beirut does? I am not speaking about culturally - only astrologically.

Jim Eshelman wrote:

Arena wrote:When you read into the ingress charts Jim, do you progress them to see progressed angles? And the pr. Moon?

Solar ingresses, yes.

The main impress, first, is how they look on their face. But transits to ingress and progressed ingress Moon, and transits to ingress and progressed (i.e., quotidian) angles are the important timing factors. Also progressed Moon aspects, of course, though these aren't as common.

This is all covered BTW in the introductory chapters of SMA, especially the chapter on working methods.

Arena wrote:

To which chart do those transits show? To the Capsolar?

Jim Eshelman wrote:The start time is stabilizing as 9:20 PM (the first stadium bomb was originally reported at 9:17, not pushed slightly back). A suicide bomber detonated at an entry gate to the stadium.

Mars on IC 1°45'
Pluto on Dsc 7°19'
Venus on IC 8°40'
Ve/Pl midpoint 0°40' from angles

We are moving into the season of close Saturn-Neptune square. Happy holidays, everyone!

Where is that Saturn-Neptune square most angular? Do you expect some news of a financial melt down any time soon?

Jim Eshelman wrote:

I gave angularities in some other thread, I forget where. But, to answer your last question, the next high risk of financial meltdown for the U.S. looks like a year from now, in December 2016, not under this current Saturn-Neptune square. Based on historic trends, 100% of these in the U.S. have occurred with Neptune on a Cansolar angle for Washington, and we don't have one now. We will, however, have that condition after mid-July 2016.