Evita
Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 12:12 pm
When was Eva Peron born?
The problem is that we have many possibilities. Lois Rodden, in The American Book of Charts, gives the following possibilites:
1908 May 7, 5:10 AM Cordoba time, Buenos Aires, Argentina - Source: Craswell from Astrology 26:3
Blanca Matias in Horoscope Magazine 11/1957 wrote in part: "Touchy about her age, she had the year changed from official records, impying that she was 23 years younger than her husband when there was actually 13 years between them. [Juan Peron was born October 8, 1895, so this points to either 1908 or 1918 as the possible years.] The year was definitely confirmed (emphasis added) when her younger brother died as his date of birth, December 10, 1914, was printed in his obituary. Eva was born on May 7, 1908." She then offered a speculative time.
The Penfield Collection cites "private sources in Buenos Aires" as May 17, 1919, Los Toledos, Argentina, 3:00 AM LMT. Penfield wrote in Mercury Hour 1/1980 that a recent biography, Eva: Evita by Paul Montgomery corroborated the data as May 7, 1919, Los Toledos, 5:00 AM.
There are then several other possibilities - May 17, 1917 (early in the morning) from a British TV show, another chart for 5/17/1908 5:10 AM LMT "from an astrology magazine" (which would seem to be the Craswell article),May 7, 1919 from Astrological Index, and an obit in Current Biography listing May 7, 1919.
Notice that throughout all of these there are no confirmed primary sources. Can astrology point a decisive finger at the right birth?
Summarizing these:
1908 May 7 (5:10 AM Cordoba time, Buenos Aires) per Craswell from Astrology 26:3
Earlier than 1914 December if details in your "younger brother's" obit are to be all trusted. (All the others given are for 1917-19, which throws them at least in doubt.)
1917 May 17 (early morning) per a TV show
1919 May 7 (5:00 AM, Los Toldos) per Eva: Evita by Paul Montgomery (which may have been copied into two other sources cited)
So the year is either 1908 or 1917 or 1919, and the date is either May 7 or May 17. The earliest date has some credibility from her likely greater age, and the 1919 date from the Montgomery biography (which, however, doesn't seem to provide firm sources and so is as speculative as the rest).
The 1919 date does seem to have been taken up as "official" in most places. Wikipedia even embraces it (which, admittedly, is as much of a popularity contest as anything else). What is fascinating is that the time of birth is essentially consistent across all of these! Los Toldos does appear confirmed as the birthplace (rather than Buenos Aires) from a wide range of sources. It is 22S17, 64W14 per http://www.nahuelsat.com.ar/espaniol/se ... lidad.html - All of Argentina was on Cordoba Time (Standard 64W11) until 1920.
It is no surprise that in both charts she is an Aries - and what an outstanding example of Sidereal Aries she was! Somewhat surprising is that both charts also give her a Cancer Moon. I'll post both here when I get the time, but also propose to gather some dates and test events - just to see if anything really clear-cut spills out of this mess.
The 1908 chart shows an exact Sun-Mercury conjunction in Aries partile trine Uranus, and a nearly partile Moon-Jupiter conjunction in Cancer trine Saturn. Mars and Pluto are 3° form conjunction in the background. It seems pretty descriptive to me! The 1919 chart shows a partile Sun-Mars connunction in Aries square a partile Moon-Saturn conjunction in Cancer - that's pretty tough, too, but paints quite a different sort of person!
Juan Peron was born October 8, 1895 in Lobos, Argentina, with 6:30 to 7:00 AM times variously given (6:30 reportedly from an unspecified record). The 1908 chart puts Eva's birth at Juan's Jupiter Return. Either birth date puts her Sun (either with Mercury or Mars) near Juan's Descendant and opposite his probably rising Uranus. 1908 also puts her Mars closely conjunct his Neptune, which could certianly get his attention and inflame his imagination but doesn't seem wholly descriptive of what I know about their relationship. The 1918 chart has fewer contacts, though, and nothing phenomenal - though her Jupiter square his Sun suggests she could promote him successfully. (But it's 3° wide and not foreground in either chart.)
Her death is well-documented for July 26, 1952, 8:27 PM. Secondary Progressions are pretty worthless for both charts (OK, they loved her and there was a Moon-Venus progressed trine for the 1908 chart - but we'd expect a little more). Relocated to Buenos Aires, the 1908 chart does put that progressed Moon precisely on the Midheaven - again, just talking about the publicity angle, more than the death itself - but ties it into natal Mars (the partile aspect past, should have hit stronger a month earlier - and the Q1 is a degree too early). 1919 birth relocated to Buenos Aires for the death puts progressed Eastpoint conjunct progressed Mars - so keeps it in the running.
More when I have time. (This may amount to nothing in the end, of course!)
The problem is that we have many possibilities. Lois Rodden, in The American Book of Charts, gives the following possibilites:
1908 May 7, 5:10 AM Cordoba time, Buenos Aires, Argentina - Source: Craswell from Astrology 26:3
Blanca Matias in Horoscope Magazine 11/1957 wrote in part: "Touchy about her age, she had the year changed from official records, impying that she was 23 years younger than her husband when there was actually 13 years between them. [Juan Peron was born October 8, 1895, so this points to either 1908 or 1918 as the possible years.] The year was definitely confirmed (emphasis added) when her younger brother died as his date of birth, December 10, 1914, was printed in his obituary. Eva was born on May 7, 1908." She then offered a speculative time.
The Penfield Collection cites "private sources in Buenos Aires" as May 17, 1919, Los Toledos, Argentina, 3:00 AM LMT. Penfield wrote in Mercury Hour 1/1980 that a recent biography, Eva: Evita by Paul Montgomery corroborated the data as May 7, 1919, Los Toledos, 5:00 AM.
There are then several other possibilities - May 17, 1917 (early in the morning) from a British TV show, another chart for 5/17/1908 5:10 AM LMT "from an astrology magazine" (which would seem to be the Craswell article),May 7, 1919 from Astrological Index, and an obit in Current Biography listing May 7, 1919.
Notice that throughout all of these there are no confirmed primary sources. Can astrology point a decisive finger at the right birth?
Summarizing these:
1908 May 7 (5:10 AM Cordoba time, Buenos Aires) per Craswell from Astrology 26:3
Earlier than 1914 December if details in your "younger brother's" obit are to be all trusted. (All the others given are for 1917-19, which throws them at least in doubt.)
1917 May 17 (early morning) per a TV show
1919 May 7 (5:00 AM, Los Toldos) per Eva: Evita by Paul Montgomery (which may have been copied into two other sources cited)
So the year is either 1908 or 1917 or 1919, and the date is either May 7 or May 17. The earliest date has some credibility from her likely greater age, and the 1919 date from the Montgomery biography (which, however, doesn't seem to provide firm sources and so is as speculative as the rest).
The 1919 date does seem to have been taken up as "official" in most places. Wikipedia even embraces it (which, admittedly, is as much of a popularity contest as anything else). What is fascinating is that the time of birth is essentially consistent across all of these! Los Toldos does appear confirmed as the birthplace (rather than Buenos Aires) from a wide range of sources. It is 22S17, 64W14 per http://www.nahuelsat.com.ar/espaniol/se ... lidad.html - All of Argentina was on Cordoba Time (Standard 64W11) until 1920.
It is no surprise that in both charts she is an Aries - and what an outstanding example of Sidereal Aries she was! Somewhat surprising is that both charts also give her a Cancer Moon. I'll post both here when I get the time, but also propose to gather some dates and test events - just to see if anything really clear-cut spills out of this mess.
The 1908 chart shows an exact Sun-Mercury conjunction in Aries partile trine Uranus, and a nearly partile Moon-Jupiter conjunction in Cancer trine Saturn. Mars and Pluto are 3° form conjunction in the background. It seems pretty descriptive to me! The 1919 chart shows a partile Sun-Mars connunction in Aries square a partile Moon-Saturn conjunction in Cancer - that's pretty tough, too, but paints quite a different sort of person!
Juan Peron was born October 8, 1895 in Lobos, Argentina, with 6:30 to 7:00 AM times variously given (6:30 reportedly from an unspecified record). The 1908 chart puts Eva's birth at Juan's Jupiter Return. Either birth date puts her Sun (either with Mercury or Mars) near Juan's Descendant and opposite his probably rising Uranus. 1908 also puts her Mars closely conjunct his Neptune, which could certianly get his attention and inflame his imagination but doesn't seem wholly descriptive of what I know about their relationship. The 1918 chart has fewer contacts, though, and nothing phenomenal - though her Jupiter square his Sun suggests she could promote him successfully. (But it's 3° wide and not foreground in either chart.)
Her death is well-documented for July 26, 1952, 8:27 PM. Secondary Progressions are pretty worthless for both charts (OK, they loved her and there was a Moon-Venus progressed trine for the 1908 chart - but we'd expect a little more). Relocated to Buenos Aires, the 1908 chart does put that progressed Moon precisely on the Midheaven - again, just talking about the publicity angle, more than the death itself - but ties it into natal Mars (the partile aspect past, should have hit stronger a month earlier - and the Q1 is a degree too early). 1919 birth relocated to Buenos Aires for the death puts progressed Eastpoint conjunct progressed Mars - so keeps it in the running.
More when I have time. (This may amount to nothing in the end, of course!)